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Lauren Johnson
04-27-2017, 10:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRuKmxQSPSw

Lauren Johnson
04-28-2017, 04:13 AM
If this man is not a complete fraud, and I do not, he needs to be taken very seriously. His despair over what he saw and participated in led him to study spiritual traditions to provide answers. He mentions The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a very controversial document to say the least. Here (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?165-The-Protocols-of-Zion#.WQK-wPkrKCo) is a great discussion from the archives of DPF on this topic. It is a delight to re-read this.

Dawn Meredith
04-28-2017, 02:47 PM
He sounds sincere. And it's a story we have heard before.

Peter Lemkin
04-28-2017, 05:45 PM
If this man is not a complete fraud, and I do not, he needs to be taken very seriously. His despair over what he saw and participated in led him to study spiritual traditions to provide answers. He mentions The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a very controversial document to say the least. Here (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?165-The-Protocols-of-Zion#.WQK-wPkrKCo) is a great discussion from the archives of DPF on this topic. It is a delight to re-read this.

The so-called Protocols of the Elders of Zion are a complete fake, bullshit, and false-flag op - a horrible legacy of antisemitism! It is not controversial at all.

Lauren Johnson
04-28-2017, 06:15 PM
If this man is not a complete fraud, and I do not, he needs to be taken very seriously. His despair over what he saw and participated in led him to study spiritual traditions to provide answers. He mentions The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a very controversial document to say the least. Here (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?165-The-Protocols-of-Zion#.WQK-wPkrKCo) is a great discussion from the archives of DPF on this topic. It is a delight to re-read this.

The so-called Protocols of the Elders of Zion are a complete fake and early false-flag op!

David makes an intriguing case for another point of view, that the document is hiding truth. I interpret him to agree that it is a psy-op, but also hiding truth in plain sight. If so, it is quite disturbing. The short version:


I do think the Protocols need to be treated with great care, but having said that it is intriguing how they sometimes seem to have been played out in reality. They certainly were, as Solzhenitsyn said, the product of a highly intelligent and forward looking mind.

Peter Lemkin
04-28-2017, 06:35 PM
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion


Introduction

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a classic in paranoid, racist literature. Taken by the gullible as the confidential minutes of a Jewish conclave convened in the last years of the nineteenth century, it has been heralded by anti-Semites as proof that Jews are plotting to take over the world. Since its contrivance around the turn of the century by the Russian Okhrana, or Czarist secret police, "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" has taken root in bigoted, frightened minds around the world.
The booklet’s twenty-four sections spell out the alleged secret plans of Jewish leaders seeking to attain world domination. They represent the most notorious political forgery of modern times. Although thoroughly discredited, the document is still being used to stir up anti-Semitic hatred.
Origins of the Protocols

Serge Nilus, a little-known Czarist official in Moscow, edited several editions of the Protocols, each with a different account of how he discovered the document. In his 1911 edition Nilus claimed that his source had stolen the document from (a non-existent) Zionist headquarters in France. Other "editors" of the Protocols maintained that the document was read at the First Zionist Congress held in 1897 in Basel, Switzerland.
The Hoax Spreads

Impact of the Bolshevik Revolution

After the Russian Revolution in 1917, frustrated supporters of the ousted Czar rescued the document from obscurity in order to discredit the Bolsheviks. The emigre Czarists portrayed the Revolution as part of a Jewish plot to enslave the world, and pointed to the Protocols as the blueprint of that plan. The scheme of yoking the Protocols to the Bolshevik Revolution not only led to the allegation of a Judeo-Communist conspiracy, but promoted the forgery internationally. In later years, vicious Soviet anti-Semitic propaganda under Stalin and others echoed the conspiracy mythology of the Protocols.
International Publicity

In the 1920’s, two British correspondents, Robert Wilton of the London Times and Victor Marsden of the Morning Post, each of whom had lived in pre-Communist Russia, .promoted the idea of a Jewish conspiracy in Great Britain. Eighteen articles on the subject of a Jewish conspiracy as well as on the "Protocols" themselves were published in the Morning Post. Marsden translated the Protocols into English and in his introduction to the document asserted:
...the Jews are carrying it out with steadfast purpose, creating wars and revolutions...to destroy the white Gentile race, that the Jews may seize the power during the resulting chaos and rule with their claimed superior intelligence over the remaining races of the world, as kings over slaves."
A Polish language edition of the Protocols appeared in 1920. The following year the Arabs of Palestine and Syria used the Protocols to stir up resentment against Jewish settlers in Palestine, suggesting that the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine would further advance the "international Jewish conspiracy." This propaganda tactic persists in the contemporary Middle East; Arabic editions of the Protocols have been widely circulated by official Saudi sources, among others.
American Debut

The Protocols were publicized in America by Boris Brasol, a former Czarist prosecutor. Auto magnate Henry Ford was one of those who responded to Brasol’s conspiratorial fantasies. "The Dearborn Independent," owned by Ford, published an American version of the Protocols between May and September of 1920 in a series called ‘The International Jew: the World’s Foremost Problem." The articles were later republished in book form with half a million copies in circulation in the United States, and were translated into several foreign languages.
By 1927 Ford had repudiated the "International Jew," but hundreds of thousands of people around the world had been encouraged by his initial endorsement to accept the Protocols as genuine.
The Protocols and Nazi Germany

The Protocols served to rationalize anti-Semitism and genocide in Hitler’s Germany. The myth of the Jewish world conspiracy permeated Hitler’s thinking, and he linked Germany’s economic hardship during the 1920s to the secret plot. Once in power Hitler invoked the Protocols to justify anti-Semitic legislation and suppression of all opposition to the Third Reich. For example, the first anti-Semitic measure in April of 1933, a one-day boycott of Jewish stores, was deemed a defense against the "Plan of Basel" (another name for the Protocols).
Note: According to reputable scholars, including Prof. Norman Cohn in his noted book, Warrant for Genocide, the world-control myth was actually lifted from a 19th-century French political satire in which the alleged plotters weren’t even Jewish.
Contemporary Re-Emergence

Anti-Semites around the globe still actively circulate the Protocols. It has appeared in Japan-where bestsellers by anti-Semite Masami Uno cite them as evidence of a "Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world’-and in Latin America (including Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Colombia and Paraguay). The document is also favored by such U.S. right-wing extremists as the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations. The most common U.S. edition was published by hatemonger Gerald L. K. Smith’s Christian Nationalist Crusade.
The Protocols have become a major source of Arab and Islamic propaganda. Between 1965 and 1967 alone, approximately 50 books on political subjects published in Arabic were either based on the Protocols or quoted from them. In 1980, Hazern Nuseibeh, the Jordanian delegate to the United Nations, spoke about the Protocols as a genuine document. In October of 1987 the Iranian Embassy in Brazil circulated copies of the Protocols, which it said "belongs to the history of the world."
During the 1980s Muslim groups peddled the forgery worldwide. The Muslim Student Associations at Wayne State University in Michigan and at the University of California at Berkeley disseminated the document. American Black Muslim groups have sold it. The Protocols were for sale at an Islamic exhibition in Stockholm and in London’s Park Mosque, and during a 1986 conference sponsored by the Islamic Center of Southern California the Protocols were prominently displayed. Based on a perverse "interpretation" of the Protocols, the Saudi Arabian government blamed Israel for an attack on a synagogue in Istanbul in 1986.
With Glasnost there has also been a reappearance of the Protocols in the Soviet Union. A Soviet book released in 1987 called "On the Class Essence of Zionism" revived insidious canards contained in the Protocols, and made repeated references to Jews engaging in "constant efforts to gain control of the world." And sections of the Protocols have reportedly been read during meetings of the anti-Semitic Russian nationalist movement Pamyat (Memory).
Widespread Condemnation

During the past 60 years impressive authorities have publicly attested to the Protocols’ fraudulence.


Hugo Valentin, lecturer in history at the University of Upsala in Sweden, characterized the Protocols in his 1936 study Anti-Semitism, Historically and Critically Examined as "the greatest forgery of the century."
Father Pierre Charles, Professor of Theology at the Jesuit College in Louvain, France, stated in a 1938 essay: "It has been proved that these ‘Protocols’ are a fraud, a clumsy plagiarism. . . made for the purpose of rendering the Jews odious..."
In 1942, several prominent historians, including Carl Becker of Cornell, Sydney Fay and William Langer of Harvard, and Allan Nevins and Cariton J. H. Hayes of Columbia, introduced Professor John Shelton Curtiss’ ‘An Appraisal of the Protocols of Zion" with their endorsement of his findings as "completely destructive of the historicity of the Protocols and as establishing beyond doubt the fact that they are rank and pernicious forgeries."
In 1961 Richard Helms, then Assistant Director of the CIA, stated at a Senate subcommittee hearing: "The Russians have a long tradition in the art of forgery. More than 60 years ago the Czarist intelligence service concocted and peddled a confection called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."
And in August of 1964 a subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee issued a report repudiating the Protocols, to which Senators Thomas J. Dodd and Kenneth B. Keating appended the following: "Every age and country has had its share of fabricated ‘historic’ documents which have been foisted on an unsuspecting public for some malign purpose. . . One of the most notorious and most durable of these is the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion.’."

Conclusion

In 1935 a Swiss judge, presiding at a trial of two Swiss National Socialists charged with circulating the Protocols, wrote:
I hope that one day there will come a time when no one will any longer comprehend how in the year 1935 almost a dozen fully sensible and reasonable men could for fourteen days torment their brains before a court of Berne over the authenticity or lack of authenticity of these so-called Protocols... that, for all the harm they have already caused and may yet cause, are nothing but ridiculous nonsense.

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The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery made in Russia for the Okhrana (secret police), which blames the Jews for the country's ills. It was first privately printed in 1897 and was made public in 1905. It is copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.
The basic story was composed by Goedsche, a German novelist and anti-Semite who used the pseudonym of Sir John Retcliffe. Goedsche stole the main story from another writer, Maurice Joly, whoseDialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864) involved a Hellish plot aimed at opposing Napoleon III. Goedsche's original contribution consists mainly of introducing Jews to do the plotting to take over the world.
The Russians used big chunks of a Russian translation of Goedsche's novel, published it separately as the Protocols, and claimed they were authentic. Their purpose was political: to strengthen the czar Nicholas II's position by exposing his opponents as allies with those who were part of a massive conspiracy to take over the world. Thus, theProtocols are a forgery of a plagiarized fiction.
The Protocols were exposed as a forgery by Lucien Wolf in The Jewish Bogey and the Forged Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (London: Press Committee of the Jewish Board of Deputies, 1920). In 1921, Philip Graves (http://emperors-clothes.com/antisem/times-pdf.htm), a correspondent for theLondon Times, publicized the forgery. Herman Bernstein in The Truth About "The Protocols of Zion": A Complete Exposure (1935) also tried and failed to convince the world of the forgery.
The Protocols were published in 1920 in a Michigan newspaper started by Henry Ford mainly to attack Jews and Communists. Even after they were exposed as a forgery, Ford's paper continued to cite the document. Adolf Hitler later used the Protocols to help justify his attempt to exterminate Jews during World War II.
The Protocols hoax continues to fool people.

further reading
Bronner, Stephen Eric. A Rumor About the Jews : Reflections on Antisemitism and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (St Martins Press, 2000) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0312218044/roberttoddcarrolA/)
Cohn, Norman Rufus Colin. Warrant for Genocide; the Myth of the Jewish World-conspiracy and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York: Harper & Row, 1967). (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1897959257/roberttoddcarrolA/)
Goldberg, Isaac. The so-called "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"; a Definitive Exposure of One of the Most Malicious Lies in History (Girard, Kansas, Haldeman-Julius Publications, 1936).
Segel, B. W. A Lie and a Libel: the History of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Richard S. Levy, translator & editor, (Lincoln, NE : University of Nebraska Press, 1995). (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0803292457/roberttoddcarrolA/)
United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on the Judiciary. Protocols of the Elders of Zion; a fabricated "historic" document; a report prepared by the Subcommittee to Investigate the Administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws ... Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1964.
Wolf, Lucien. The Myth of the Jewish Menace in World Affairs; or, The Truth About the Forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion (New York, The Macmillan company, 1921).

Lauren Johnson
04-28-2017, 07:04 PM
Peter, would you mind adding a link to your last post. I would like to add it to the archived discussion. Personally? I never want to discount David's opinions out of hand. I also fully admit that your post could well be the best and final word on The Protocols.

Also, we should remember that Mr. Bernard's testimony also not be dismissed because he accepts The Protocols as fact. I think one should note that it has an amazing prescience to today's world. Here is a source text of The Protocols (https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Learned_Elders_of_Zion).

Lauren Johnson
05-01-2017, 05:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMHgm9C-sEU

Lauren Johnson
05-01-2017, 09:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RyJWrzdNFc

Lauren Johnson
05-10-2017, 02:12 AM
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9110&stc=1

Lauren Johnson
05-15-2017, 07:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=NOubzHCUt48

Lauren Johnson
05-24-2017, 05:21 AM
Jay Dyer on the dark world found in Twin Peaks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=347&v=321sX09GXJw

Lauren Johnson
06-09-2017, 06:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0q2VdSx7u4&list=TLGGe_AJnzXiHLMwOTA2MjAxN w

Lauren Johnson
07-03-2017, 03:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be8QBQZwSQU

Lauren Johnson
07-08-2017, 08:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXkeD2P8gjk

Lauren Johnson
08-23-2017, 05:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klzwNeY5Zds&t=0s

Lauren Johnson
09-28-2017, 10:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWYr72xlQIQ