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Magda Hassan
06-18-2009, 01:24 PM
From another list I am on. A turf war between the religious criminal gangs. Looks like the state will sanction the Whore of Rome and a few reform protestants and co. Now, if Scientology had just been a 'normal' corporation to start with this would just be business as usual.

"Last time I looked, fraud (extracting money on false pretences) is a
crime.
A "religion" based on extracting money on false pretences is a
criminal gang."

Yesterday, the Attorney General (="procureur de la r?publique", thanks for the translation) upgraded charges against scientology to include :
- membership and incentive to join in organized crime as defined in French law as an organized criminal group devoted to committing widespread and systematic criminal offenses (namely: widespread and systematic fraud, misappropriation of funds, witness intimidation, attempted corruption of officials, extortion and obstruction of justice).

Next week, Scientology might officially be defined as "organized crime"
in France.

David Guyatt
06-18-2009, 01:39 PM
Can't wait... it's been too loooooong already for these crapsters.

Peter Lemkin
06-18-2009, 05:06 PM
From another list I am on. A turf war between the religious criminal gangs. Looks like the state will sanction the Whore of Rome and a few reform protestants and co. Now, if Scientology had just been a 'normal' corporation to start with this would just be business as usual.

"Last time I looked, fraud (extracting money on false pretences) is a
crime.
A "religion" based on extracting money on false pretences is a
criminal gang."

Yesterday, the Attorney General (="procureur de la r?publique", thanks for the translation) upgraded charges against scientology to include :
- membership and incentive to join in organized crime as defined in French law as an organized criminal group devoted to committing widespread and systematic criminal offenses (namely: widespread and systematic fraud, misappropriation of funds, witness intimidation, attempted corruption of officials, extortion and obstruction of justice).

Next week, Scientology might officially be defined as "organized crime"
in France.

I agree that Scientology might well fit the organized (or SOP Corporate) crime profile, but others who call themselves organized religions might, as well :deal:

Magda Hassan
10-27-2009, 11:35 AM
Scientologists convicted of fraud


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46616000/jpg/_46616094_-1.jpg Scientology's Celebrity Centre in Paris was fined in the ruling

A French court has convicted the Church of Scientology of fraud, but stopped short of banning the group from operating in France.
Two branches of the group's French operations and its leader in France have been fined, reports say.
The case came after complaints from two women, one of whom said she was pressured into paying more than 20,000 euros (18,100) for expensive products.
France regards Scientology as a sect, not a religion.
Prosecutors had asked for the group's French operations to be dissolved and more heavily fined, but a legal loophole prevented the court from taking these extra measures.
'Commercial operation'
Instead, a judge ordered the Church's Celebrity Centre and a bookshop to pay a 600,000 euro fine, AFP news agency reported.
Alain Rosenberg, the group's head in France, was handed a two-year suspended jail sentence and fined 30,000 euros, the report said.
Other leading members of the group were also fined.
Unlike the US, France has always refused to recognise Scientology as a religion, arguing that it is a purely commercial operation designed to make as much money as it can at the expense of often vulnerable victims, the BBC's Emma Jane Kirby reports from Paris.
Over the past 10 years, France has taken several individual members of the group to court on charges of fraud and misleading publicity, but this is the first time the organisation itself has been charged, she says.
In the case leading up to Tuesday's ruling, the Church denied that any mental manipulation took place.
A lawyer defending Scientology's operations in France said there would be an appeal.
The Church of Scientology was founded in 1954 by the late science fiction writer L Ron Hubbard, and includes Hollywood stars such as John Travolta and Tom Cruise.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8327569.stm

Magda Hassan
10-22-2013, 01:47 AM
Scientology's fraud conviction upheld in FranceFrance's top appeals court has upheld a fraud conviction and fines totalling hundreds of thousands of euros against the Church of Scientology, for taking advantage of vulnerable followers.





By AFP

9:13AM BST 17 Oct 2013


The Cour de Cassation rejected the organisation's request that a 2009 conviction for "organised fraud" be overturned on the grounds it violated religious freedoms.

From their Los Angeles headquarters, the group slammed the court ruling as "an affront to justice and religious liberty," in a statement that accused the French government of "anti-religious extremism".

"The Court failed to address the fundamental violations of the human rights of each of the defendants that infected every level of this case," said the Scientology church, vowing to pursue the matter "at the international level".

The group has previously indicated it will appeal the conviction to the European Court of Human Rights.

The conviction saw Scientology's Celebrity Centre and its bookshop in Paris, the two branches of its French operations, ordered to pay 600,000 euros ($812,000) in fines for preying financially on followers in the 1990s.

The original ruling, while stopping short of banning the group from operating in France, dealt a blow to the secretive movement best known for its Hollywood followers, such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.
France regards Scientology as a cult, not a religion, and had prosecuted individual Scientologists before, but the 2009 trial marked the first time the organisation as a whole had been convicted.
The head of a parliamentary group on religious cults in France, lawmaker Georges Fenech, hailed the ruling.
"Far from being a violation of freedom of religion, as this American organisation contends, this decision lifts the veil on the illegal and highly detrimental practices" of the group, said Fenech.
The court case followed a complaint by two women, one of whom said she was manipulated into handing over 20,000 euros in 1998 for Scientology products including an "electrometer" to measure mental energy.
A second woman claimed she was forced by her Scientologist employer to undergo testing and enrol in courses, also in 1998. When she refused she was fired.
The Church of Scientology said in its statement that the involvement in the trial of UNADFI, a French anti-cult association, "polluted the proceedings, transforming it into a heresy trial."
Founded in 1954 by US science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the Church of Scientology is recognised as a religion in the United States. It claims a worldwide membership of 12 million, including 45,000 followers in France.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10384877/Scientologys-fraud-conviction-upheld-in-France.html

David Guyatt
10-23-2013, 10:58 AM
Scientology's fraud conviction upheld in France

France's top appeals court has upheld a fraud conviction and fines totalling hundreds of thousands of euros against the Church of Scientology, for taking advantage of vulnerable followers.







By AFP

9:13AM BST 17 Oct 2013


The Cour de Cassation rejected the organisation's request that a 2009 conviction for "organised fraud" be overturned on the grounds it violated religious freedoms.

From their Los Angeles headquarters, the group slammed the court ruling as "an affront to justice and religious liberty," in a statement that accused the French government of "anti-religious extremism".

"The Court failed to address the fundamental violations of the human rights of each of the defendants that infected every level of this case," said the Scientology church, vowing to pursue the matter "at the international level".

The group has previously indicated it will appeal the conviction to the European Court of Human Rights.

The conviction saw Scientology's Celebrity Centre and its bookshop in Paris, the two branches of its French operations, ordered to pay 600,000 euros ($812,000) in fines for preying financially on followers in the 1990s.

The original ruling, while stopping short of banning the group from operating in France, dealt a blow to the secretive movement best known for its Hollywood followers, such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta.
France regards Scientology as a cult, not a religion, and had prosecuted individual Scientologists before, but the 2009 trial marked the first time the organisation as a whole had been convicted.
The head of a parliamentary group on religious cults in France, lawmaker Georges Fenech, hailed the ruling.
"Far from being a violation of freedom of religion, as this American organisation contends, this decision lifts the veil on the illegal and highly detrimental practices" of the group, said Fenech.
The court case followed a complaint by two women, one of whom said she was manipulated into handing over 20,000 euros in 1998 for Scientology products including an "electrometer" to measure mental energy.
A second woman claimed she was forced by her Scientologist employer to undergo testing and enrol in courses, also in 1998. When she refused she was fired.
The Church of Scientology said in its statement that the involvement in the trial of UNADFI, a French anti-cult association, "polluted the proceedings, transforming it into a heresy trial."
Founded in 1954 by US science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the Church of Scientology is recognised as a religion in the United States. It claims a worldwide membership of 12 million, including 45,000 followers in France.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10384877/Scientologys-fraud-conviction-upheld-in-France.html





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