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Magda Hassan
08-22-2009, 12:35 AM
Who Killed John O'Neill 9/11 investigation summary:
* Part I: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675)
* Part II: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281)
* Part III: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987)

Journal: journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug (http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug)
Wiki view: tinyurl.com/jqqjv (http://tinyurl.com/jqqjv)

Who Killed John O'Neill


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Who needs a plane?


An Updated MIHOP


Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to.
Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.
* AIG as Money Laundering Inc.
* Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by Paul Bremer
* Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.
* al-Cokeda as the drug dealers in the flight schools who are later called terrorists in the OCT.

* Learn how they all work together.
* Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.
* Learn how sophisticated psyops and black ops is.

* Learn what the government and the OCTers don't want you to know

Journal:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug
The video
Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story.

Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance - what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.

This is all for the same video, I gave different links in case some didn't work:

www.wkjo.com (http://www.wkjo.com/)
whokilledjohnoneill.com (http://whokilledjohnoneill.com/)

Movie Downloads:
http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html
Mirrors:
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935)
www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill (http://www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill)


al-Cokeda (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668)
Iran-Contra II


How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficking to finance black operations like 9/11 which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...


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Mohammed Atta's girlfriend

Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...


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Summary:

Ownership:

American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg
Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg
Ace = Evan Greenberg
Bear Stearns = Alan Greenberg

Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.
Greenberg-Traurig is now an "independent" law firm, but was started by Maurice.

Possible teams for 9/11:

October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy
The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar, bio-terrorism and homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11.

Kroll has military team in their company and merged with Armor Holdings on August 23rd thus adding Defence Systems Limited, another Private Military Corporation, to their operations, an ex-KGB team called Alpha Firm was earlier acquired by Defence Systems Limited.

That makes at least four teams which could have been used on 9/11.
Additional teams from the military could have been used as well.

Also Mass Electric Construction Co, a company specializing in wiring, was on the 84th floor of WTC2.

They had the means to do this.
* Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors.
* Marsh had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran-Contra and 78th floor had Baseline Financial who also did business with Rupert Murdoch.
* WTC7 contained a CIA office and Kroll and AIG are very closely related to the CIA and it is very likely that Kroll is the privatized version of the CIA
* The Pentagon was of course under their own control.

They had the opportunity to do this.

* AIG/Kroll/Marsh are closely connected to the Bush administration, to Henry Kissinger.
* AIG/Kroll/Marsh are also closely related to the Intelligence Community.
* AIG/Kroll/Marsh capitalized on 9/11 and it was good for their business.
* AIG was laundering drug money for al-Cokeda.
* AIG was involved in the oil and gas line to Afghanistan
* There is reason to believe that the Taliban either cut back on the drug trade or that they went into business for themselves. Either way the flow of heroin from Afghanistan was drastically limited.
* Greenberg and Khasshogi had a business relation and benefited for the narcotics from Afghanistan and had interest in the oil and gas line as well
* The Greenberg family and the Bush family are partners in fraud.
* Greenberg-Traurig played a major role in both the Election Fraud 2000, Election Fraud 2004 and is the personal law firm for Jeb Bush.
* The Office of Emergency Management was needed according to Rudolph Giuliani, so it could have been used for other purposes.

They had motive to do this.

Objectives:
There are main objectives to 9/11 and additional subgoals persuded that day. The main objectives are:
1. Enabling the war in Afghanistan for oil and drugs.
2. Bush administration gets an enormous popularity gain.
3. Enabling Homeland security.
4. Passing the Patriot Act.
5. Massive insurance fraud.
6. The missing trillions of the Pentagon.
7. Added later: War in Iraq (not part of the original plan)

Sub goals:
1. Elimination of competitors: Better position for Silverstream and Marsh in risk management by inviting all experts over the whole world to Windows of the World and eliminating some competitors in WTC.
2. Downsizing of Cantor/eSpeed.
3. Solve some "minor" problems for companies either in WTC or by inside trading.
4. Massive destruction of evidence in the Enron scandal, price inflation fraud for Silverstream, WorldCom, Global Crossing and many other scandals.
5. Hiding Pentagon projects like Global Hawk and TrailBlazer

9/11 and Iran-Contra
There are many similarities between 9/11 and Iran-Contra. One could even say that the same blue print was used and the terror event added as a quick justification of their goals

Objectives of Iran-Contra:
1. October Surprise: President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush
2. Guerrilla warfare in Central and South America
3. A war between Iraq and Iran

Objectives of 9/11:
1. Butterfly ballots, Vote spoilage, Greenberg-Traurig: President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney
2. A war with Afghanistan
3. Guerrilla warfare in Venezuela and Lebanon?

Bonuses (W. tries to double H.W.)
4. A war with Iraq
Quote:
Not in the original plan, however on September 12, 2001, George W. Bush told Richard A. Clarke: "Go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_A._Clarke
This is the probably reason why Germany, France and Canada bailed out, because they had given approval for Afghanistan and at least Germany played a part in the Venice scheme.5. If you can rig one election, might as well take the next one also.
6. Iran? (option or coming soon...)

Why the Pentagon had to be included as well
Quote:
By Minstrel Boy

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They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy.
She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
I can't help it if I'm lucky. - Bob Dylan

(...) At least among those with a mind for such things, it's fairly well- remembered that on September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking announcement that the Pentagon "couldn't track" $2.3 trillion of its transactions. "Iroquois" observes, "What's interesting to me is that he made his press release on a Monday. In DC, I always see bad news given on a Friday, usually late in the afternoon on Friday. The exception, of course, would be when someone happens to know that there is a far bigger story coming out."

And we know that Flight 77, allegedly piloted by an incompetent, made an aerobatic, spiralling descent over Washington, effecting a 270-degree turn to strike the Pentagon from a western approach at ground level. The side struck was the only one with an exterior wall hardened against attack, and was relatively empty while renovation continued. (...)

http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/06/flight-of-capital.html
Another reason may be to hide the significant costs of 9/11, because the missing trillions are pretty much the norm.
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99801 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99801)
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99915 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99915)
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99918 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99918)

WTC building insurance and ownership
What were the 3 companies who insured the WTC?

AIG, Marsh and ACE. All run by Greenbergs at the time.

They then sold stakes of the original contract to their competition, a process called reinsuring. Once the towers came down, the reinsurers got caught holding the bag.

Who mortgaged the WTC? The Blackstone Group, headed by Peter J. Peterson, current head of the CFR. The Blackstone Group bought into Kroll in 1993 at the same time as AIG took majority control. Henry Kissinger sits on the board of the Blackstone Group.

On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Silverstein owned all the buildings. Later he wanted to collect twice on $3.6 billion of policies because it were two seperate events. Only ACE, XL Reach - strategic partners of AIG and currently owned by AIG - included a WilProp in their clauses, so Silverstein "only" got $5 billion.

Larry Silverstein

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"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

- World Trade Center lease holder, Larry Silverstein, commenting on the collapse of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds" that aired in September of 2002.

Or watch a video clip of them here:
* pfabf.com/uploads/larrysayspulli.wmv (http://pfabf.com/uploads/larrysayspulli.wmv)
* www.wtc7.net/pullit.html (http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html)

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In 1986 Paul Bremer (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95944) was appointed Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism and started to develop all kinds of plans with possible terrorists events. Even though the plans appear to have been created to prevent terrorism there is also the likelyhood that they were created for false flag terrorist events. Paul Bremer has extensive connections to the neo-conversatives, Henry Kissinger and in 1999 he becomes chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism and also joins the board of directors at Marsh Inc. (http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Marsh)

He describes his time at National Commission on Terrorism as follows in an interview at the Heritage foundation (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682) (U.S. front for the international intelligence agency Le Cercle): "catastrophic terrorism ... in the event of a catastrophic attack ... tens of thousands of casualties, where the American people are going to be screaming for a response, that a President is going to want to consider using the military in some fashion ... the example we use is Pearl Harbor ..." Since Paul Bremer has made many similar remarks, there is reason to assume that he was one of the chief architects of 9/11.

Jerome Hauer (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514) worked in 1999 at the SAIC (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99911)'s Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis. One of his task was the design of the Office of Emergency Management (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97576), an emergency command center, which Rudy Giuliani (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97615) wanted to have build on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center (WTC7 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97445)). Even though everybody around Rudy Giuliani and Jerome Hauer ridiculed the "bunker" on the 23rd floor, the decision was made to build it.

Since this office has never been used for its intented purpose and a different command center was established and used at Pier 92, there is reason to believe that the Office of Emergency Management was used to coordinate the World Trade Center attacks since it could withstand anything and had a perfect view on both the towers and the area around World Trade Center. There is no better place and safer place to coordinate World Trade Center than the Office of Emergency Management.

Later Jerome Hauer started to work for Kroll (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95187), a company closely linked to Marsh and at present a subsidiary. Kroll has been named by at least governments as a CIA front organization or a privatized CIA.

The most vital part in the 9/11 plan was getting the correct government. There are very close links between the Greenberg family (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97082) (AIG, Kroll, Marsh etc.) and the Bush family and they have participated in companies like Harken Energy, Texas Rangers and Trilateral Investments among others. The Greenbergs had their own law firm called Greenberg-Traurig, currently independent but probably still has very close links.

Greenberg-Traurig (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97384) represents Governor Jeb Bush and has close links to Antonin Scalia, Jack Abramoff and they represented George W. Bush in the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida election vote recount which was vital in stopping the recount.

Adnan Khashoggi (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99824) is believed to be the hidden owner of Huffman Aviation and playing a major role behind the scenes in al-Cokeda (http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/al-Cokeda), the drug running part of the intelligence community to finance black operations. Florida election official Theresa LePore was a private stewardess of Khashoggi’s private plane. Theresa LePore is the mastermind behind the butterfly ballot which presumably lead to thousands of votes from Al Gore to go to Pat Buchanan.

ChoicePoint (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97406), the company which purged the Democratic posters from the voter role, wanted to merge with Kroll, however negotiations failed for unknown reasons. They were used in 9/11 as well for the identification of the victims and were at the scene almost instantly.

One of the major goals of 9/11 was enabling the war in Afghanistan (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95183). The planning of the war had started in 2000 and was related to both an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan and a diminished heroin flow. Officially the restrict opium trade was blamed on the Taliban's strict interpretation of Islamic Shari. There are reasons to believe that Afghanistan didn't supply al-Cokeda any more and wanted to go into business for themselves. The Greenberg family and Adnan Khashoggi were also involved in both the oil and gas line in Afghanistan and the heroin from Afghanistan.

The United States started secret negotiations (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96522) in 2001 with Afghanistan to ensure the flow of heroin and for the development of an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan. The secret negotiations failed. In the summer of 2001 officials threatened war against Afghanistan and in July it was reported that if military action would take place, it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.

A lot of mergers and last moment preparations were taken place in New York. On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Marvin Pierce Bush (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457) makes sure that he is no longer connected to the security of the World Trade Center.

Kroll merged with Armor Holdings (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516) thus adding two more specialized teams to their company: Defence Systems Limited (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516), a British Private Military Contractor who protects the British Queen among others and Alpha Firm (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96870), the former top-KGB team during the cold war. With that merger they had at least four teams in their company and probably the best teams as well. AIG international reinsured the WTC buildings and made sure that their competitors got most of the reinsurance.

Louis Freeh (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664), the director of the FBI at the time, is more or less forced out of his position and the same is done with John O'Neill (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514), the former top anti-terrorist specialist, who gets offered a job at the World Trade Center security.

A lot of companies move into the World Trade Center who have some scandals and some other companies move out of the World Trade Center at the last moment.

Three weeks prior to 9/11 inside trading (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=97987) with put-options starts and is mainly focused on American Airlines, United Airlines, Marsh and numerous insurance agencies and companies with offices in the World Trade Center. From Thursday before 9/11 it reaches historic levels and is a global event.

No investigation into inside trading is made even though it is solid evidence for 9/11 preknowledge. A Canadian list of 38 companies is published and lists many companies inside the World Trade Center, defense contractors, almost all major airlines and several other companies with connections to either AIG or Citigroup (WTC7 was mainly occupied by Salomon Smith Barney who is a part of Citigroup. Deutsche Bank (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532) was the biggest inside trader of the all and that is maybe because the US CEO, "Buzzy" Krongard, is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it.

Mass. Electric Construction (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97589), a wire specialist, is discovered on the 84th floor of WTC2 - who is not listed on any official tenant listing and never mentions that they were there - and there are about 200 electric engineers working in the World Trade Center around the time. The Pentagon construction was performed by AMEC. Both AMEC (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92675#95823) and Tully Construction play a major role in the clean up (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98164) of Ground Zero and both have specialized Controlled Demolition companies. No links to AIG have been discovered upto now.

Several war games were being played during 9/11 including one by Mr. Fulton and his CIA team who were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95190) inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97443) which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.

9/11 started at WTC1, because that was on Marsh's own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. Rudy Giulani and all the others establish an emergency center at Pier 92.

In Rudy's own words for the 9/11 Commission: "The reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center."

The next attacks were at WTC2 and the Pentagon since both were more difficult. Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the Greenberg family especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes). The 767/757 scenario is very unlike. Either there were no planes or it were Global Hawk (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99920)-like missile with a specific homing beacon in WTC/ Pentagon.

WTC1 and WTC2 were destroyed with a Controlled Demolition to hide any evidence and after the whole game had been played WTC7 was pulled also because it contained the command center for the attacks.

Rudi Giulani and his team immediately set out to ship off all the debris without any investigation. The Bush administration immediately blaims al-Qaeda for the attacks and wants to implicate Saddam Hussein as well for another war in Iraq. The attack is blamed on the drug dealers working for their own organizations since they were Arabs and could be used as Muslim extremists. The Bush administration had no intention of investigating 9/11 since any investigation could turn up wrong doing.

The bin Laden family and all the other Saudis were the only people allowed to fly out of the United States.

Edwin Meese and Paul Bremer co-chaired the Heritage Foundation's Homeland Security Task Force, which created a blueprint for the Department of Homeland Security and a company associated with Paul Bremer offering privatized Homeland Security already registered the required domain prior to 9/11. The Bush administration immediately approves of their plans.

The United States with support from many more nations (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99929), who are often featured in 9/11 as well, invaded Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 as part of its War on Terra campaign. It should be noted that it is completely impossible to launch a full scale war with extremely detailed plans on such a short notice. In 2002, Opium production was back to a pre-war level of 3,400 tons and the construction of the oil and gas pipeline had started.

Because of tremendous pressure to launch an investigation into 9/11, a commission headed by Henry Kissinger (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97426) - a name featured in 9/11 as well - was proposed, however nobody trusts a guy for whom a case for Crimes against Humanity (http://www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html) exists and who can't leave the United States anymore.

The Kean Commission (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980) was used instead with close links to Condi Rice, Warren Buffett (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980) and Fiduciary Trust (one of the companies in WTC2). The commission piles lie upon lie and Dr. David Ray Griffin has found 115 lies. Elias Davidsson (http://globalresearch.ca/articles/DAV504A.html) has demonstrated with mathematical techniques that the official acccount on 9/11 is simply not true based on a limited of lies. Applying David Griffin's research would result in a probability of correctness which is astronomically small.

On March 20, 2003 a war against Iraq was launched based on the 9/11 attacks without any evidence of wrong doing. Paul Bremer later became the Ambassador of Iraq and under his reign the insurgency started to spin out of control (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060906A.shtml).

This story is based on the investigation into 9/11 called Who Killed John O'Neill. Further reading and references are available on the thread above. This summary is about showing a plausible explanation of 9/11 based on the stories and facts discovered thus far.

Flights investigation
Flight 11
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100019 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100019)
Flight 175
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100035 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100035)
Flight 73
* www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html (http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html)
Flight 93
* www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991)
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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/templates/webmasterbucket/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82089&sid=2507d7aa9aa231d43cab27eeed9ba79b#82089)Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: 2-J * 2 tons of coke in Paris (al-Cokeda as well?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94179 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94179)

* 3/11 Madrid train bombing (Repsol versus Total. Terrorism to cover up of a coup. WTF? Can't be true, right...)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98201 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98201)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98202 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98202)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98224 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98224)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98688 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98688)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98854 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98854)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99116
(Hypothesis) (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99116%3Cbr%3E%28Hypothesis%29)

* 5.5 tons of coke in Mexico (Something's rotten in the town of Venice)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=93668 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=93668)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94464 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94464)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94562 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94562)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94677 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94677)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95957 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95957)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=96065 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=96065)

* 7/7 (Oklahoma City - New York - Madrid - London. A truly global team)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98413 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98413)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98417 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98417)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98427 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98427)

* 9/11 Commission (Independent commission? LMAO!)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97441 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97441)

* 9/11 Encyclopedia
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97300 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97300)

* 9/11 Inside traders
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97015 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97015)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96039 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96039)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532)

* ACE Limited (Another Greenberg family member in insurance and 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97975 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97975)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96758 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96758)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97015 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97015)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97298 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97298)

* Afghanistan (History)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95183 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95183)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96522 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96522)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99929 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99929)

* Airlines (cartel / inside traitors)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268)

* Airman Flight School (Baker/Hughes why does that name sound familiar?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97809 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97809)

* Al-Cokeda Drugs (for black ops)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95415 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95415)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99524 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99524)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95793 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95793)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94255 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94255)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94284 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94284)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94645 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94645)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94903 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94903)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94977 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94977)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95233 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95233)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97642 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97642)

* Alpha Firm (KGB enemies? Hell no, their former top team can join us)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96870 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96870)

* Salvador Allende (The other 9/11. Some players are the same ?!)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97449 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97449)

* Khalid Almihdhar (The terrorists who wasn't in the database)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97415 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97415)

* American Airlines (Inside trader)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268)

* American Bureau of Shipping (destruction of evidence)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97066 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97066)

* American Express (Warren Buffett or Vernon Jordan or both??)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97497 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97497)

* American International Group (Mother of all fraud)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96045 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96045)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96295 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96295)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543)

* Anderson David & Cooper (Claim three dead, but don't exist)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98302 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98302)

* Anthrax (Add some bio terrorism as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99805 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99805)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98416 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98416)

* AMR Corporation (Senator David Boren and George Tenet??)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695)

* AON Corporation (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96937 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96937)

* Armor Holding (Two more teams for 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516)

* Mohammed Atta (Terrorist or drug dealer?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94645 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94645)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94815 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94815)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94880 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94880)

* Avid Technologies
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98593 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98593)

* AXA (owner American Airlines. #2 global insurer)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215)

* Bank of America (The partner of BCCI)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97286 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97286)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97442 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97442)

* Baseline Financial (Did business with Rupert Murdoch. Need I say more?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97863 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97863)

* James R. Bath (Bush's former buddy. Strange that the name of his company was similar)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=93984 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=93984)

* BEA Systems (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96305 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96305)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96384 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96384)

* Todd Beamer (What kind of a strange family is this?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99979 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99979)

* Bear Streans (Bush's best buddy: Harken Energy, Texas Rangers, Trilateral Investment and Clear Channel)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290)

* Nick Berg (False flag?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734)

* Blackstone Group (Let the competitor of AIG pay for the damage)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96732 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96732)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96741 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96741)

* David Boren (George Tenet, AMR Corporation, Moussaoui and Nick Berg )
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97809 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97809)

* Paul Bremer (Links to Marsh, Bush administration and HenryKissinger. Spider in the web)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95944 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95944)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95973 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95973)

* Warren Buffett (Happened to invite a CEO at Bush's hide out)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97497 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97497)

* Thomas E. Burnett (Peter Kellogg doing some inside trading with Thoratec Corp)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99987 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99987)

* Bush family (Partners of Greenberg family. They can't possibly be involved, right?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96666 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96666)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96668 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96668)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980)

* Buttonwood, the company that didn't exist
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97076 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97076)

* Cantor/eSpeed (Major reorganization during 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96385
(Story removed by Canadafreepress within 24 hours) (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96385%5B/s%5D%3Cbr%3E%28StoryremovedbyCanadafreepresswithin 24hours%29)

* Carnival/Carnivore Corporation (Also did a scam during Katrina)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97722 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97722)

* CARR Futures (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96941 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96941)

* Le Cercle / Pinay Circle (Clandestine NATO for black ops? The CIA is such a limited organization. Does it still exist?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99689 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99689)

* Michael Cherkasky (Small cop at DA, WTC93, BCCI, Kroll and now CEO Marsh)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97356 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97356)

* ChoicePoint (Wanted to merge with Kroll. The guys who purged the voter roles in 2000 and were at the scene at 9/11 for DNA identification of the victims)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97406 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97406)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97412 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97412)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97415 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97415)

* Chubb Group (Competitor? With Oscar Fanjul on both boards of directors)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215)

* CIA privatization (Independent, lawless, unrestricted. And they didn't even tell us)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95190 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95190)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95784 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95784)

* CIA rendition (How to use drug planes for other illegal things as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053)

* Cigna group (Sold insurance part to Ace Ltd part of AIG and did inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97711 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97711)

* Citigroup (Did we really sponsor Palestinian terrorists?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97293 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97293)

* Clearstream (Off shore financial centers)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98249 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98249)

* CNA Financial (Doesn't this CEO write extremely conservative columns as well?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97721 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97721)

* Controlled Demolition (How come there were two companies at the scene who also specialize in controlled demolition)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95823 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95823)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98164 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98164)

* Convar (How to buy a company to stop investigation into inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95506 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95506)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97077 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97077)

* Corporate Media (Catapulting the lies to the people)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100008 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100008)

* Credit Suisse (Managing director had a meeting at the wrong time)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97899 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97899)

* Defence System Limited (The UK top team was there as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516)

* Deutsche Bank (They may sound German, but they are very buddy buddy with the CIA)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97974 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97974)

* Doubles (How many Atta's were there?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94880 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94880)

* Sibel Edmonds (Overheard Turkish intelligence talking about 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95475 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95475)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96292 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96292)

* Electrical Contractors (There are many thing you can wire)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97589 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97589)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97566 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97566)

* Enron (Destruction of evidence. Involvement of AIG)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97286 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97286)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97293 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97293)

* E-Systems (Virtually indistinguishable from the spy agencies they serve)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97935 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97935)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97968 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97968)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97967 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97967)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97443 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97443)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97806 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97806)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987#99634 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987#99634)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987#99642 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987#99642)

* Euro Brokers (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96949 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96949)

* Oscar Fanjul (Marsh and Repsol. A big dude with his hands in both oil and black ops)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98423 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98423)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99116 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99116)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98273 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98273)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98224 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98224)

* Fiduciary Trust (Thomas Kean and Ann Tatlock but lost 76)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980)

* Fireman's Fund (Another CIA front?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97072 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97072)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94903 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94903)

* First Commercial Bank (Pretty much unknown. Were at impact area)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97793 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97793)

* Flight 11
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100019 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100019)

* Flight 175
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100035 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100035)

* Flight 77
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97937 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97937)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98050 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98050)
www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html (http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html)

* Flight 93
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99987 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99987)

* Flight Termination System (Remote control of airplanes)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99804 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99804)

* Louis Freeh (We don't want a FBI director who wants to investigate)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664)

* Fuji Bank (Mena and right in the middle of WTC2)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97974 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97974)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987#98424 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987#98424)

* Genesis Intermedia (How come Adnan was behind Venice?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97296 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97296)

* GKN Securities (Notified that it didn't exist on Sept 10. Still got 9/11 damage rewards)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98301 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98301)

* Global Crossing (Destruction of evidence)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97070 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97070)

* Global Hawk (Quite a number of people on the planes worked indirectly for this unmanned plane)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99920 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99920)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98607 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98607)

* Greenberg cartel (A family that preys together, stays together)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95949 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95949)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96666 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96666)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96668 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96668)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97082 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97082)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290)

* Greenberg-Traurig (Election 2000 Fraud and Election 2004 Fraud)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97384 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97384)

* Richard Grove (Whistleblower: Silverstream)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95300 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95300)

* Guatanamo Bay (Heroin dealers and terrorist flight school owners are allowed to fly to Guatanamo Bay)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95053)

* Rudy Giulani (The mayor who knew everything in advance. Even London)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97615 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97615)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97756 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97756)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445)

* Haiti (The second democracy in the new world and what they have done to that island)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99814 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99814)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99922 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99922)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99923 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99923)

* Harken Energy (How to scam with Alan "Ace" Greenberg's money and he didn't even mind)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290)

* Stephen Hatfield (Anthrax suspect #1. Why is he still running around free?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99805 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99805)
* Jerome Hauer (The man who appointed John O'Neill)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514)

* Heritage Foundation (US front for Le Cercle? Created blue print for Department of Homeland Security)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99689 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99689)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95944 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95944)

* Willy Hilliard (CIA and drugs?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94903 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94903)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94977 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94977)

* Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union (we don't want unions)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97832 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97832)

* Insurance cartel (Oil cartel, airline cartel and insurance cartel?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97215)

* Interview with Ty Rauber by Culhavoc
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97323 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97323)

* Investcorp Investment Holdings Corp (The BCCI of Investment firms)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97286 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97286)

* IQ Financial Systems (Deutsche Bank helping Fuji bank helping 9/11??)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97974 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97974)

* Iran-Contra (Almost the same script)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94284 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94284)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94317 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94317)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94815 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94815)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95017 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95017)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95233 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95233)

* ITT Hartford (JFK, Allende and 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97575 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97575)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97441 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97441)

* JFK (A history of treason)
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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/templates/webmasterbucket/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82090&sid=2507d7aa9aa231d43cab27eeed9ba79b#82090)Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: K-Z * Kean Commission (Independent Commission? LMAO!)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97980)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97441 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97441)

* Bernard Kerik (Octafish: Homeland Czar & Petro-Turd Bernie Kerik)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97420 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97420)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97804 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97804)

* Adnan Khashoggi (Oliver North II)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96543)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94977 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94977)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94562 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94562)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95017 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95017)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97296 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97296)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99824 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99824)

* Henry K. (King Henry, the butcher of Cambodia)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97426 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97426)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97441 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97441)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97743 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97743)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97777 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97777)

* Kroll (A privatized CIA)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95113 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95113)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95190 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95190)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96545 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96545)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95194 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95194)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95414 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95414)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96516)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96747 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96747)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97356 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97356)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97926 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97926)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97933 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97933)

* L-3 Communications (What is General Jay M. Garner doing there?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97728 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97728)

* Lehman Brothers (Dollar, Pounds, Euros we own them all)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97288 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97288)

* Neil D. Levin (Executive Director Port Authority)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97972 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97972)

* Lockheed Martin (Fox living in the Hen house)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97800 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97800)

* LTV Corporation (One of its last actions was pre-9/11 inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97806 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97806)

* Martin Progressive (A happy survivor)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97146 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97146)

* Marsh (scene of the crime)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95194 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95194)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95480 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95480)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96039 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96039)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96048 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96048)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95300 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95300)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97076 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97076)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97356 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97356)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97933 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97933)

* Marsh Crisis Consultancy (terror group lead by Paul Bremer)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95828)

* Marsh & Kroll management (Thomas E. Constance, Oscar Fanjul, Michael A. Petrullo, Michael Shmerling and J. Arthur Urciuoli)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97926 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97926)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97933 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97933)

* Marsh Victim list
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97462 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97462)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97470 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97470)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97533 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97533)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97542 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97542)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97482 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97482)

* Mass. Electric Construction (A hidden wire specialist on the 84th floor?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97589 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97589)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97786 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97786)

* Mena (The predecessor of Venice)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96295 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96295)

* MIHOP (Some physical evidence sites and info)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97301 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97301)

* Morgan Stanley (Made a huge plan what to do if an airplane struck WTC)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97297 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97297)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97547 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97547)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97739 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97739)

* Moscow 1999 (I told ya this was the mother of all threads. Why does Moscow feature Adnan as well?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99674 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99674)

* Moussaoui (What is Senator David Boren doing there?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97695)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97734)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98169 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98169)

* Robert Mueller (He did a marvellous job covering up Panama and BCCI. Let him to 9/11 as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664)

* National Geographics (Why were there some many people including children from National Geographics?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99949 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99949)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99989 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99989)

* No planers (Optional. Are planes really necessary?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96076 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96076)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96293 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96293)

* Office of Emergency Management (Control center for terrorist attack)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97576 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97576)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445)

* OKC (Another terror event which doesn't make sense)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96650 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96650)

* John O'Neill (We don't want an investigation into 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96522 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96522)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96514)

* Operation 40 (The first team of the shadow government and all the presidents it spawned)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94317 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94317)

* Operation Northwoods (Similar to 9/11. Even though it was decades earlier)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95209 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95209)

* Oracle (Quite a number of Oracle people. Most working in WTC1, but all on assignments/ Todd Beamer + Jeff Simpson)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99980 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99980)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99979 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99979)

* Pentagon (The other building with a mystery plane)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95017 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95017)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=90471&mesg_id=90471 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=90471&mesg_id=90471)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92233 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x92233)

* Pentagon's missing trillions (Why are the missing trillions year after year. What are they hiding?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99801 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99801)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99803 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99803)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99804 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99804)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99918 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99918)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99919 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99919)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99920 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99920)

* Phantom Flights (Only the bin Ladens and other Saudis are allowed to leave the United States)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98066 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98066)

* Thomas Pickard (The temporary director when everything was being planned)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96664)

* Promis (Are Saddam and Osama enemies?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96532)

* Raytheon Company (All survived despite being above impact)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97443 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97443)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97935 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97935)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98050 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98050)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98066 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98066)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98607
(Raytheon/DOD people on planes) (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98607%3Cbr%3E%28Raytheon/DODpeopleonplanes%29)

* Rayed Mohammed Abdullah Ali (New Zealand deports a spy)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95104 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95104)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=96840 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=96840)

* Remote Controlled Detonation (How to blow up WTC while in OEM)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97967 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97967)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97968 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97968)

* Repsol (Marsh even has their own oil tycoon on board)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98224 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98224)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98422 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98422)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98222 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98222)

* Rick Resola (Tried to save everybody, but his story is weird)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97547 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97547)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97739 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97739)

* Riggs Bank (Pinochet, Bush, Obiang. They cater to all...)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100051 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100051)

* RISK management (How to become market leader by eliminating competition)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96305 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96305)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96308 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96308)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96373 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96373)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96384 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96384)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96937 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96937)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96939 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96939)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96941 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96941)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96949 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96949)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95474 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95474)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97297 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97297)

* Royal Caribbean Cruises (Corporate Criminals of the 90s: #21 Royal Caribbean and in the 00s: 9/11 as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97816 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97816)

* Royal & Sun Alliance (Another AIG buddy)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97818 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97818)

* Safari Club (Hunting for the big boys. Saudi-Arabia, Iran, Iraq, US, French club for conspiracies)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99524 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99524)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99632 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99632)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99674 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99674)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99682)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99689 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=99689)

* Sander O'Neill (Risk management victim)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96939 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96939)

* Indira Sangh (Windows on the World meeting)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96373 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96373)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96382 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96382)

* Science Applications International Corporation (Where a lot of players met in the events leading upto 9/11)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99911 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99911)

* Skyways (9/11 didn't change anything. Lots of drug dealing in Venice)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94370 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94370)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94464 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94464)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94562 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94562)

* Larry Silverstein / Port Authority (Make billions by blowing up WTC)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96751 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96751)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96758 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96758)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97140 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97140)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97791 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97791)

* Silverstream (Fraud Class Action June 20, 2001)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97057 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97057)

* Southwest Airlines (What do you mean a competitor can't join in the fun)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268)

* Standard Charter Bank (Terrorists and WTC7)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95793 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95793)

* Stewart Airport (The weird detour of the planes)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96292 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96292)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96383 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96383)

* Texas Rangers (Started with the Harken scam and solved when Junior was governor. The Greenbergs helped out of course)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97290)

* TrailBlazer (Global Position System launched + space and cyberspace control)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99919 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99919)

* Trilateral Investment (George W. Bush and AIG. Partners in fraud)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96668 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96668)

* UAE Port deal (Port deal related to drug dealing)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95434 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=95434)

* United Airlines (Losing two planes doesn't mean that you can't do pre-9/11 inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268)

* US Airways (All the major airlines committed inside trading?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97268)

* Venice (The new Mena?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94284 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=93668&mesg_id=94284)

* Victims and Survivors
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97010 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=97010)

* Vornado Realty Trust (The failed WTC - Port Authority deal. Didn't stop them from inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97820 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97820)

* W. R. Grace and Company (Asbestos Inc. A mere 250,000 lawsuits thus far)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97821 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97821)

* Weatherly Securities Corporation[/i] ($1,050,000 for a company which wasn't going to last. They are in copper mines now)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98299 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98299)

* Sanford Weill (Sandy seems to know everybody as well)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97461 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97461)

* Paul Wellstone
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98050 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98050)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98060 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98060)

* Wireless (Why were there so many people on the planes working for the wireless industry?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99979 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99979)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991)

* WorldCom (Destruction of evidence by shredding WTC 7)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97293 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97293)

* WTC 1993 (Prior history - Jury found Port Authority 68% liable)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96045 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=96045)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98197 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98197)

* WTC 1 and 2 (Corporation index)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97981 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97981)

* WTC 5 (Raging fires but did not collapse)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97899 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97899)

* WTC 7 (Small fire, big collapse or was it related to what was inside of WTC7?)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97445)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97576 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97281#97576)

* WTC Destruction of Evidence (Giuliani ships Twin Towers on a slow boat to China)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98164 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=98164)

* XL Capital (The re-insurance group with the WilProp for Larry. Run by the Greenberg cartel + inside trading)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97298 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97298)

* Dov Zakheim (Comptroller of the missing trillions and CEO of Flight Termination System)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99804 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99804)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=743997 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=743997)

* WTC Security (Let's put a Bush in charge of security and see what happens)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=92675&mesg_id=95457)

Recommended further study:
* Books / Websites / Videos
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99807 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99807) Back to top (http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82093&highlight=kroll#top)
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American International Group is the partner in fraud of the Bush family, Henry Kissinger and has very close ties to the CIA. American International Group is used to launder drug money for al-Cokeda and is one of the prime suspects of 9/11. AIG is also listed as one of the 9/11 inside traders. The CEO during 9/11 was Maurice Greenberg.

AIG cartel

AIG is at the heart of the cartel of businesses involving the Greenberg family and is always one of the biggest stockholder in the other groups.

American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg
Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg
Ace = Evan Greenberg
Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.

AIG and CIA

The American International Group at its origins was linked to the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) the forerunner of the CIA. It grew from the Asia Life/C. V. Starr companies founded by Cornelius Starr who started his insurance empire in Shanghai in 1919, the first westerner to market insurance in China. (2)

Starr served with the OSS during World War II, and the Starr Corporation, located in the same building as the OSS in New York, provided intelligence on shipping, manufacturing and industrial bombing targets in Asia and Germany. The companies' biggest shareholder was Starr International Company (SICO), a private holding company incorporated in offshore Panama and with principal executive offices in offshore Bermuda, to avoid U.S. regulation and taxes. Starr left Greenberg a large block of Starr International stock. (3)

AIG and al-Cokeda
The drug money laundering of AIG was first discovered at Mena where in the period between 1987 and 1992 money was being laundered involving AIG, Goldman Sachs and the Arkansas Development Financial Authority (ADFA). (4)

Michael Ruppert has conducted an extensive investigation into AIG and its predecessors, including the C.V. Starr Insurance Companies, revealing deep connections to US intelligence dating back to the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) in World War II. These connections include documented CIA operatives connected to drug smuggling from Southeast Asia and a current board member, Frank Wisner, Jr., whose father was a key figure in the creation of the CIA. History, as well as AIG's current operations, suggest that these relationships continue unabated today. (5)

In The Crimes of Patriots, Kwitny writes that the CIA, began supplying the through two front companies: Civil Air Transport (later Air America), headquartered in Taiwan, and Sea Supply Corporation, headquartered in Bangkok. Sea Supply Corporation, for its part, was founded and run by a lawyer and CIA operative named Paul Helliwell, whom Starr reported to. Colleagues from those days told the Wall Street Journal’s Jim Drinkhall that Helliwell, then a colonel, regularly used to buy information with five-pound shipments of opium." (6)

The state of Arkansas was the lead investor in a deal which poured sixty million dollars through a Barbados company, Coral Reinsurance, which is currently under investigation by insurance regulators in New York, Pennsylvania, and Delaware as well as by Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau, lead prosecutor in the BCCI scandal. The American International Group is a 100-billion dollar, multi-national insurance company which founded Coral Reinsurance Company in 1987. (7)

Recently, two very respected investigative journalists, Roger Morris and Sally Denton, have published the most authoritative and highly documented account to date of events at the Mena airport between 1982 and 1986. Based on over 2,000 documents including the previously unpublished personal papers of Barry Seal, their article "The Crimes of Mena" in the July issue of Penthouse Magazine reveals the government's protection, and cover up of drug smuggling, gun running and money laundering. ( 8 )

AIG, Enron and the oil and gas pipeline in Afghanistan

In December 2001, Enron filed for bankruptcy in New York City, not in Houston, where its headquarters was located. The New York bankruptcy court appointed Steven Cooper of Zolfo-Cooper LLC to run Enron. (9)

The deal involving Cooper's assumption of control of Enron raised eyebrows among regulators, chiefly because Cooper's Catalyst Equity Partner's Fund included Citicorp and J.P. Morgan Chase, two of Enron's major creditors. Financial investigators report that the Enron notes to Citicorp and Chase and sold to AIG and MacArthur were unusual. A former U.S. Justice Department prosecutor referred to such financial instruments as "feints" designed to mask illegal transactions by keeping them off the books and away from the eyes of U.S. government regulators. (9)

In September 2002, Kroll Inc., a shadowy firm with ties to the U.S. intelligence community, acquired Zolfo-Cooper and Cooper was named managing director of Kroll Zolfo Cooper. In May 2004, Marsh & McLennan acquired Kroll and Zolfo Cooper. Jeffrey Greenberg, the son of AIG's Hank Greenberg, had earlier left AIG to run Marsh & McLennan. The revolving doors and musical chairs involving Enron, Kroll, Zolfo-Cooper, Marsh & McLennan, and AIG became the subject of Spitzer's probes. Another insurance firm investigated by Spitzer for price fixing of property casualty insurance coverage and conspiracy was ACE, headed by Hank Greenberg's other son, Evan. In October 2004, Jeffrey Greenberg quickly stepped down from Marsh & McLennan amid Spitzer's investigation.

Hank Greenberg has had a long time relationship with Henry Kissinger, the partner of Richard Perle in Trireme Partners, the firm that, according to Seymour Hersh, attempted to negotiate deals with Saudi Arabia using Saudi billionaire arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi as an intermediary. Greenberg and Khashoggi, according to CIA sources, have long had an interest in exploiting the oil and natural gas reserves of Uzbekistan and the construction of pipelines across the Uralskaya region of Russia. Uzbekistan has also featured prominently in oil and natural gas plans of Enron and UNOCAL. (9)

According to Enron insiders, on Saturday, September 7, 1996, 42 representatives of Enron and UNOCAL met in Tashkent, the Uzbek capital, with Khashoggi, Taliban representatives, and Uzbek government officials. The subject was the CentGas pipeline through Afghanistan to Pakistan, a project that involved UNOCAL, Enron, and Saudi support. Current Afghan President Hamid Karzai was a consultant on the pipeline for UNOCAL. Prior to the Tashkent oil summit, on June 23, 1996, a $10 billion wire transfer was made from Cyprus, via Barclays Bank in London, to Enron in Houston. Cyprus is a major banking center for illicit activity. The Tashkent meeting was followed by a spring 1997 meeting between Enron, UNOCAL, and Taliban representatives at the posh Houstonian Hotel in Houston. (9)

Greenberg and Bush family are partners in fraud
Partners in Fraud: The Bush and Greenberg Families by Al Martin

They are partners in fraud. The Bush family which runs the USA and the Greenberg Family which runs the insurance cartel composed of AIG, Marsh McLennan and Ace Insurance have a lot more in common than mainstream media will ever tell you, writes government whistleblower Al Martin, author of "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider."

In his column "Secrets of the Insurance (Fraud)Industry: The Bush-Greenberg Connection" published on Al Martin Raw (www.almartinraw.com (http://www.almartinraw.com/) ), Martin writes that "New York State Attorney Eliot Spitzer is investigating systemic fraud in the insurance industry in which Greenberg Family controlled insurance cartel companies like Marsh McLennan, AIG and Ace Insurance get kickbacks for steering corporate clients their way. Three employees of Marsh McLennan have already pled guilty to insurance fraud. Now, in this exclusive report on AlMartinRaw.com, you will learn about the insurance fraud connection between the Bush and Greenberg families which Spitzer is NOT investigating.

(...) "In the 1980's, the Colombian Greenbergs began to expand their commercial real estate business into south Florida and the southeastern part of the United States in general. You would see that in all of the office buildings they bought, including my own, the building wherein I maintained my office, that AIG was the insurer of all of the properties that they own because, obviously, they received a preferred rate from their American Greenberg cousins," Martin explains.

(...) The connection between the Bushes and the Greenbergs is deep, Martin writes. "The Bush family is intimately connected with all of the companies that the Greenberg family, both the American and Colombian branches, run. You will note that Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, is the chairman of AIG, and his cousin is Alan “Ace” Greenberg, the former chairman of Bear Stearns.

"Bear Stearns, of course, is where the Bush family, the Cheney family, George Schultz, James Baker, etc. all do business. It is the leading brokerage firm of the great and all powerful Bushonian Cabal.

(...) In another footnote to history, Martin writes that "it’s interesting to note that the CIA in its operations in northern South America, Venezuela and Colombia in particular, always did their agency banking through Greenberg-owned banks. This connection really goes back to the time that George H.W. Bush was head of the CIA" (10)

Example fraud: Tri-Lateral Investment Group

Excerpt from Al Martin's book about Bush's Harken Energy Fraud

(...) The Tri-Lateral Investment Group, Ltd. is also one of the deals (one of the very few deals, perhaps only a few dozen deals in that era by this group of guys) that you could connect Jeb, Neil, George, Jr., Prescott, and Wally Bush.

All five you can put in the Tri-Lateral Investment Group, Ltd. You can put Neil in it vis-a-vis Tri-Lateral's dealings with Neil's Gulf Stream Realty.

Then you back up a step and put Neil Bush into Tri-Lateral Investment Group's dealings with the Winn Financial Group of Denver run by the infamous former Ambassador to Switzerland, Phillip Winn. You can put George, Jr. in the deal vis-a-vis the Tri-Lateral Group Ltd.'s fraudulent relationship with American International Group (AIG), of which George, Jr. was a part through the same series of fraudulent fidelity guarantee instruments issued on behalf of Harken Energy from American International Group.

Tri-Lateral Investment Group then sold bogus oil and gas leases to AIG. This is a direct fraud that George, Jr. profited to the extent of (not a lot) $1.6 or $1.7 million. But it was a clear out-and-out fraud. (11)

Sources:
1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ame...onal_Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_International_Group)
2. www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11657 (http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11657)
3. id.
4. www.fromthewilderness.com...art_2.html (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/part_2.html)
5. www.fromthewilderness.com...art_2.html (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/part_2.html)
6. blogs.csmonitor.com/the_i...index.html (http://blogs.csmonitor.com/the_index/2005/05/index.html)
7. www.geocities.com/Athens/.../adfa.html (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/3450/adfa.html)
8. id.
9. www.american-buddha.com/9...dwayne.htm (http://www.american-buddha.com/911.bishbinladalqaemoneylaundwayne.htm)
10. www.bradblog.com/archives/00002259.htm (http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002259.htm)
11. web.archive.org/web/20041...arken.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20041009144309/http://almartinraw.com/harken.html) Back to top (http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82093&highlight=kroll#top)
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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/templates/webmasterbucket/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82092&sid=2507d7aa9aa231d43cab27eeed9ba79b#82092)Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: Kroll Kroll, Inc., according to the corporation's web site, "is the world's foremost independent risk consulting company. For more than 30 years, Kroll has helped companies, government agencies and individuals reduce their exposure to risk and capitalize on business opportunities. Kroll is traded on The NASDAQ Stock Market® under the symbol "KROL." (1)

"With offices in more than 60 cities in the U.S. and abroad, Kroll can operate and restructure businesses; scrutinize accounting practices and financial documents; gather and filter electronic evidence for attorneys; recover lost or damaged data from computers and servers; conduct in-depth investigations; screen domestic and foreign-born job candidates; protect individuals, and enhance security systems and procedures. (2)

Kroll has been named as the private CIA and is one of the prime suspect of 9/11.

Kroll has merged with Marsh and always had American International Group as their biggest stockholder. The Blackstone Group was a stockholder from 1993 onwards. Just before 9/11 Kroll merged with Armor Holdings.

Key people
* Michael Cherkasky
* Thomas E. Constance
* Oscar Fanjul
* Maurice Greenberg
* Jerome Hauer
* John O'Neill
* Michael A. Petrullo
* Michael Shmerling
* J. Arthur Urciuoli

Kroll as the Private CIA

Maurice Greenberg, the CEO of AIG was destined to become Director of the CIA in 1975, however Bill Clinton gave the job to John Deutch and Deutch made a mess, because the Church Committee Investigation into the CIA started and they discovered all kinds of dirty deals. So George H.W. Bush was send in to replace Deutch and started to privatize all the dirty parts.

* National Endowment for Democracy became the privatized part of the Election Fraud department of the CIA.
* Rendon Group was very successful during the Panama invasion and got the Psyops department.
* There are quite a number of reports indicating that Kroll became the privatized variant of the CIA. (3,4)

The reason for privatization is that Congressional oversight does not apply to them. Also the former restrictions no longer apply and they can work for whatever government wants their services.

Example of them taking a job from the Russian government:

When the CIA was asked in 1992 by Kroll and Associates, working on behalf of the Russian government, to help locate $20 billion that was hidden offshore by the KGB and the mob, the George H.W. Bush national security team declined to cooperate. (5)

Example of something which they were not allowed to do previously: Operating a division to avoid negative publicity:

Risk management is a PR specialism which aims to help corporations strategically plan to avoid negative publicity, as well as to deal with it on an ad-hoc basis. PR agencies specialising in risk management include Regester Larkin and Kroll, Inc. (6)

You know, people on messageboards posting for years defending ridiculous theories like the OCT.

The world of Kroll
Welcome to the m urky world of Kroll Inc - the private CIA By Ben Hills June 25, 2005

(...) In May 2004, Julius Kroll received an offer he could not refuse. Marsh & McLennan, the New York insurance broker which claims to be the world's largest, took over Kroll for an eye- popping $US1.9 billion ($2.46 billion), more than $US100 million of which was pocketed by its founder.

(...) Last October (2004), New York's crusading district attorney, Eliot Spitzer, filed suit against Marsh & McLennan, accusing the company of having, for years, colluded with big insurance companies to "cheat customers in an elaborate charade of price fixing and bid rigging".

The three insurers he named were the giants American International Group, Zurich America Insurance Company and Ace Ltd. Adding spice to the story was the relationship between them: AIG was headed by the 79-year-old insurance industry legend Maurice "Hank" Greenberg; his son Jeffrey ran Marsh & McLennan, and; another son, Evan, was boss of Ace.

(...) Within three months, Cherkasky had overseen a clean-out of Marsh & McLennan's board, and the sacking of most of the executives deemed accountable for the corruption. In January, he persuaded Spitzer to drop the civil charges against the company by pledging to pay $US850 million to clients around the world - including Australia - that Marsh & McLennan had defrauded.

Criminal charges are still pending against 10 former executives of Marsh & McLennan and the insurance companies. In February, Kathryn Winter, the 50-year-old managing director of Marsh Inc, pleaded guilty to fraud in the Manhattan State Superior Court. She faces up to four years' jail, depending on how keenly she co-operates with Spitzer's investigators.

tinyurl.com/7fphk (http://tinyurl.com/7fphk)

France calls Kroll a CIA front

The French, the CIA and the Man Who Sued Too Much By David Ignatius, The Washington Post

William Lee is a 57-year-old Harvard-educated corporate lawyer whose specialty, until recently, was international mergers and acquisitions. But a year ago, the government of France charged that he was a spy for the Central Intelligence Agency, waging a secret war to destabilize French corporate interests in Asia.

The " William Lee affair," as it is known in Paris, appears to be a bizarre case of mistaken identity. Top CIA officials say the agency has no connection to Lee, and the French have dropped their allegations. But it adds a strange new chapter to what is becoming one of the world's hottest spy rivalries, now that the Cold War is over -- the battle between France and the United States over economic espionage.

(...) The Lee affair began to get nasty last Jan. 26, when French Interior Minister Charles Pasqua summoned U.S. Ambassador Pamela Harriman to complain about American spying against France. As has been widely reported, Pasqua demanded that several CIA spies leave the country.

(...) Some of the French anxiety about Lee stems from what he did next. In mid-1992, he took a part-time position with Kroll Associates, a New York firm that provides investigative services for big companies and employs a number of former CIA and FBI officers.

For French officials, Lee's brief stint with Kroll tagged him as a suspicious person. According to French and U.S. sources, the French equivalent of the FBI, known as the Directorate of Surveillance of the Territory, or DST, suspected that Kroll's Paris operation was a CIA front. They bugged Kroll's Paris offices and harassed some of its clients, according to company executives. (4)

Whistleblower Andrew Grove blames Kroll for 9/11

www.911blogger.com/files/...wGrove.mp3 (http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/MeriaHellerRichardAndrewGrove.mp3)

The Meria Heller Show – www.Meria.net (http://www.meria.net/)

This man, Richard Andrew Grove, a whistleblower who worked for the big boys and money people behind 9/11 has come out with information to set the 9/11 movement on fire.

(...)

To offer a little contextual History, AIG was founded by OSS operative Cornelius V. Starr, the uncle of Bill Clinton’s friend Kenneth Starr. AIG was created for and is currently a front which provides cover for intelligence community illicit operations. In 2001, AIG owned a Risk Management firm called Kroll Associates.

Kroll played a major role in the events of September 11th, and continues to this day to enable events like the 7-7 and 7-21 bombings in the London Tube system… they then go on TV and provide “expert” counterterrorism testimony to the goldfish at home tuned into Fox News and the like.

While Kroll provided the necessary operational capability, in part, for what was perpetrated; AIG and Marsh were focused on participating in both short and long-term money schemes. Kroll’s Jerome Hauer (a long time personal friend of ex-FBI Counterterrorism & Osama bin Laden expert John O’Neill) hired O’Neill as head of security for the WTC.

Kroll had also managed the bunker in WTC 7 for Rudi Guiliani, and Kroll’s board of directors shared one peculiar member in common with AIG; that being Frank G. Wisner Jr., son of OSS co-Founder Frank Wisner. I won’t go into the history of the OSS, Reinhard Gehlen, or the Council on Foreign Relations / Allen Dulles affiliation with its creation, but I can recommend an excellent book, wherein its relevance is comprehensively documented; the title you’re looking for is: The Old Boys: The American Elite and the Origins of the CIA by Burton Hersh (and printed in 1992).

(...)

On July 8, 2004, Kroll Associates was sold to Marsh and McLennan. I would mention at this point that Kroll Associates also provides protection, I mean, Kidnap and Ransom coverage for major corporations and their executives- and employs ex- and-current Intelligence Operatives, as well as ex-Scotland Yard, and freelance mercenaries. Kroll is at the heart of 9-11, though it’s but a sub-aspect of many other superimposed actions and operative details that took place on that day.

(...)

cortez.gnn.tv/blogs/15703...es_Forward (http://cortez.gnn.tv/blogs/15703/9_11_Whistleblower_Andrew_Grove_Comes_Forward)

9/11: The BCCI Connection
9/11: The BCCI Connection by Chaim Kupferberg Excerpted from: Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11 by Chaim Kupferberg

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(...) It is, in fact, security firms like Kroll Associates, Burns Security, Teg, Wackenhut, and their ilk that should garner our interest at least as much as the web of conservative think tanks that have welded in place the parameters of "mainstream" debate - for it is through these very firms that the former stars of law enforcement have gone through the revolving door into the lucrative private sector. It is a world where former military types mix with various operatives of the CIA, FBI, DEA and any number of alphabet soup agencies charged with the security of our nation.

Moreover, the top people in the private security sector have the authority, prestige, and, most importantly, the skill to carry out - successfully and below the radar - the kinds of domestic operations that have been pegged as the province of shaggy al-Qaida operatives. Who, after all, could best ensure that 19 terrorists would be able to make it aboard four separate flights without any real danger of detection? And who, after all, would be best placed to ensure a complete and successful implosion of not just the two Twin Towers, but the neighboring building - 7 World Trade Center - which housed a bio-warfare "command and control bunker" under the direction of Jerry Hauer?

With that in mind, we get a bit closer to the "how" of 9/11 - an important consideration in analyzing the Legend of 9/11. A good part of the early work on that legend had been accomplished through the offices of Michael Cherkasky, the managing director of Kroll Associates - in his capacity as a prosecutor working in the New York office of Robert Morgenthau. Cherkasky had worked on the case arising out of the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, which had established Ramzi Yousef as the terrorist mastermind behind the attack. Cherkasky had also worked on the John Gotti and BCCI criminal cases, two cases that would not, at first glance, seem to be related, much less to the events of September 11.

(...) The story goes that BCCI was founded by Pakistani financier Aga Hassan Abedi. In truth, it was mostly a British intelligence operation using Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates as fronts, while CIA elements allied with George H.W. Bush used the banking network to conduct a number of under-the- table operations throughout the '80's. Before it went under, BCCI served as the cardiovascular system for a global criminal milieu, its laundered arteries servicing the needs of various drug lords, arms dealers, fraudsters, dictators, corrupt politicians, terrorists, and intelligence agencies seeking loose cash for their extra-legal activities.

(...) The real scandal of BCCI, however, was not simply that it was a worldwide Ponzi scheme defrauding its investors of billions - for that is the "limited", official version - but that, in the context of 9/11, it provides a glaring spotlight on the very networks most intimately connected with the corruption. BCCI, the brainchild of British intelligence, was the ideal tool by which a supra-national network of compromised politicians and corrupt officials would "play ball", fattened up with a stream of capital furnished through the fruits of drugs, arms, and terrorism.

As Oliver North had pioneered the use of the counter-terrorism office in dealing with narco- terrorists like Monzer al-Kassar (connected to the Pan Am explosion over Lockerbie), would it be such a stretch to posit that the counter-terror apparatus - this time under Richard Clarke and John O'Neill - was once again being employed to "work" the corrupt networks wrought by BCCI? Can it be a mere coincidence that the arteries of the bin Laden strain of terrorism were fed not by Iran or Syria - the "traditional" sponsors of the more low- key types of terrorism in the '80's - but rather by those very countries that have long served as agents and proxies of their American-Anglo cohorts in crime: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates (i.e. the principal countries fronting for BCCI)? Could it be that the mutually corrupt global relationships wrought by BCCI persist to this day, with a bevy of compromised political officials standing ready to make their contribution to the New World Order - and perhaps scam some extra pocket change on the side?

Chaim Kupferberg is a freelance researcher, writer and frequent CRG contributor. + Copyright Chaim Kupferberg 2003.

www.globalresearch.ca/art...P311A.html (http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP311A.html)

Kroll's insider trading cover up
There are reports of a sharp rise in credit card transactions at the WTC on 9/11. Unusually large sums of money were rushed through the computers.

Convar tried to recover the data. The Convar data salvage found more than $100 million on insider transactions took place in the hours and minutes before the twin towers collapsed. The reconstructed data was given by Convar to the FBI. And in June 2002 Ontrack/Convar was acquired by Kroll Inc. (Kroll O'Gara Eisenhardt). Nothing has ever been heard of the recovered data or the investigation. (7)

The transaction were made with Silverstream - part of Marsh - software for companies inside the WTC. Those companies were unusually vacant on the morning of September 11. Marsh acquires Silverstream and later Marsh acquires Kroll. (http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif

The Silverstream software was mainly sold to Marsh & McLennan, AIG, Merrill Lynch, Deutsche Bank, Banker’s Trust, Alex Brown, Morgan Stanley. It is likely that those companies who are the heart of the banking and insurance industry received a preliminary warning explaining why they were reasonable empty at morning of September 11. The same list of companies are also tied in with pre-9/11 insider trading. Also many of them are tied in with the Intelligence Community (I don't think that work for is the correct term, it's more of a blur), so the lines of communication for those companies is very short. (9)

Last minute merger with Armor Holdings

RENT-A-SPY, INC. By jenny Saturday, Nov. 30, 2002 at 3:29 PM American corporation involved in foreign and domestic espionage

Armor Holdings, Inc. was founded in 1969 as American Body Armor & Equipment, Inc., Jacksonville, Florida. At that time, American was an industry leader in the development, manufacture and distribution of projectile resistant garments. Its manufacturing facility was in New York. Its main customer was law enforcement. American started as a small, mom- and- pop operation.

In 1995, the company filed for Chapter 11, Bankruptcy and Reorganization. A group of international investors became interested in taking over the company so it was placed in the hands of British national, Jonathan Spiller. Mr. Spiller is or was a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales. Upon reorganizing, the company was renamed Armor Holdings.

At the time of reorganization, the chain of command for Armor Holdings was as follows:

* Warren B. Kanders
* Burtt R. Ehrlich
* Nicholas Sokolow
* Thomas W. Strauss
* Richard C. Barlett

(...) In 2001, the company made more adjustments and eliminated its “US-based” investigative offices. 26 positions were eliminated in all.

(...) Armor Holdings has a global presence. Its client base includes multi-national corporations, non-governmental organizations, governmental agencies, military, law enforcement, security, corrections, natural resource industry, financial industry, insurance industry, investment banks, legal profession, consumer products industry, U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Department of State, United Nations, USAID, World Bank, and Britain's Department for International Development.

(...) Products are manufactured in the US, UK, and Mexico. The product line includes body armor, vehicle armor, non- lethal weapons, duty gear and military garments, forensic collection equipment and supplies, prisoner restraints, and anti-riot gear (tear gas, percussion grenades, etc.) Located within this division is the Training Academy of Technology and Tactics to educate its clientele on the proper use of the previously identified products. The company has over 500 distributors and sales operatives worldwide.

www.southafrica.indymedia...1/2643.php (http://www.southafrica.indymedia.org/news/2002/11/2643.php)

So in 2001 they reorganized and got rid off their US spy division and just before 9/11 on August 23rd they bought Kroll. Doesn't make any sense...

In 1996 they bought Defence Systems Limited which is also an "interesting" partner.

Defence Systems Limited was one of the earliest PMCs (Private Military Corporations), formed in 1981 by a group of ex-SAS officials riding the swell brought on by Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's yardsale of Britain's defense industry to cold war warriors of worth. DSL was initially started with private financial support from London bankers, and possibly some Middle East investors. Over the next fifteen years they established a reputation in the security industry and a small fortune, before selling all to Armor Holdings, Inc. in 1997 for $26 million (10)

What was DSL became ArmorGroup, a one stop shop spot for a variety of products pertaining to defense and riot situations. They then reached out to old foes and brought on ex-KGB commandos when they acquired the Alpha Firm. (11)

DSL has provided protection and training services to a variety of elite niches in the security sector. In addition to major corporations, DSL has received contracts from governments around the world. They guarded the embassies of the United States, South Africa and Switzerland in the Democratic Republic of Congo as well as the embassies of England, Italy, South Africa, Sweden, and the US in Angola. They have provided camps for workers rebuilding a railway line in Mozambique, trained policemen in Somoalia, demined areas of the former Yugoslavia (12) and worked with various NGOs.

DSL has provided oil line protection and security force training for oil firms around the world. In the DRC they protected the SOCIR oil refinery installations belonging to Congo- SEP, a subsidiary of Belgian Petrofina. In Angola, where they were guarding oil and diamond companies, they were forced to expel 103 of their personnel for violating laws regarding the use of foreign corporate nationals. (13) Some other past clients include: Amoco, Andarko Petroleum, Bechtel, British Petroleum, Broken Hill Propriety Petroleum, Cambior, Chevron, De Beers, Exxon, Mobile and NGOs CARE and Goal.

They have also worked extensively with the United Nations and the World Bank.

www.sourcewatch.org/index...ms_Limited (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Defence_Systems_Limited)

Brazil's biggest corporate scandal

The Brazilian connection June 25, 2005 A businessman caught up in an industrial espionage scandal in Brazil has turned up in Sydney. Ben Hills investigates.

By Brazilian standards, Operation Jackal was carried out with clockwork precision. On a steamy spring day, 90 agents of the elite Policia Federal burst into a dozen homes and offices in four cities, seizing documents and computer hard drives, and arresting some of the country's most prominent businessmen.

The raids last October were the climax of a seven-month investigation into the activities of Kroll Inc, the largest and most flamboyant of the world's "risk management" companies, whose activities range from rescuing hostages to tracking down stolen treasure - and, so the police allege, illegal industrial espionage.

As the story unfolded, some of the biggest names in Brazilian business and politics were dragged into the affair - the head of the country's central bank, the minister for communications, the boss of the country's third-largest telecommunications company, an investment banker with links to America's giant Citigroup.

As the investigation widened, more than a dozen people were arrested, including executives and employees of Kroll who were initially accused by the police of crimes including conspiracy, illegal phone-bugging, and bribery. They included its joint chief executives, Eduardo Gomide and Vander Aloisio Giordano.

The boss of Kroll's Brazilian operations, its president, a 35-year-old US-educated businessman named Eduardo Sampaio, escaped the dragnet. Not long after news of the police investigation had broken four months earlier, Sampaio left the country and - to the surprise of Australia's risk management community - arrived in Sydney to take up a position as head of what is now called the Marsh Risk Consulting Group, Kroll having been taken over in the meantime (see story page 46).

However, two weeks ago, charges were formally laid against Sampaio, six other Kroll executives and contractors, and 19 other people in what has blown up into the Brazil's biggest corporate scandal.

(...)

www.smh.com.au/news/busin...005/06/24/ (http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/the-brazilian-connection/2005/06/24/) 1119321906577.html

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The companies:

* Risk and Insurance Services: Marsh, Inc. and Guy Carpenter.
* MMC Capital .. a global private equity firm.
* Investment Management: Putnam Investments.
* Consulting: Mercer, Inc. (1)
* Risk Management: Kroll
* Crisis Management: Marsh Crisis Consulting

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Marsh & McLennan is controlled by Jeffrey Greenberg, the son of Maurice Greenberg and of course American International Group is their biggest stockholder. CEO is Michael Cherkasky.

Marsh is the prime suspect in 9/11, because Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors and they had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran-Contra.

Paul Bremer is a member of their boards and is closely related to the Bush administration as well as Henry Kissinger. On October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy. The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar, a bio terrorism and homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11.

Marsh also bought Kroll who is the prime suspect for the operational part of 9/11.

Marsh's pre 9/11 inside trading
Marsh & McLennan Cos., the biggest insurance brokerage, which had 1,700 employees working in the World Trade Center. Traders on Sept. 10 exchanged 1,209 contracts on options that profit if company shares fall below $90 through the third week of September. Previously, 13 contracts had traded on an average day. Marsh & McLennan shares fell $2.50 today to $84.50.

Canadian securities officials said yesterday that the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has asked North American investment firms to review their records for evidence of unusual trading activity in securities affected by the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The Investment Dealers Association of Canada told its 190 members that the SEC has identified 38 companies -- including the parent firms of United and American airlines, which lost four aircraft -- whose shares were traded at abnormally high levels in the weeks prior to the attacks, suggesting that buyers and sellers had advance knowledge of planned terrorist acts.

The SEC equities list named several big companies that were tenants in the collapsed buildings in the heart of New York's financial district: investment firms Morgan Stanley, the towers' biggest occupant; Lehman Bros.; Bank of America; and financial firm Marsh & McLennan.

http://www.detnews.com/2001/business/0110/03/b03-308879.htm
November 1, 2004 The Secret World Of Marsh Mac By Marcia Vickers

After Andrew

Still, just days after September 11, Greenberg and top MMC execs met to figure out how to profit from the disaster. They formed a subsidiary -- Axis Specialty Ltd. -- to sell insurance to corporate customers at three or four times the rates before September 11...

For some industry players the move recalled what Greenberg did in 1992 after Hurricane Andrew slammed into South Florida and wiped out some $15 billion worth of property. Jeff, who was working for dad at AIG, sent out an internal memo stating: "This is an opportunity to get price increases now."

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_44/b3906001_mz001.htm
How Paul Bremer profited from 911 by jail kissinger Tuesday April 06, 2004 at 12:27 PM

Paul Bremer was hired by an insurance company that had hundreds of employees die in the world trade center, to reap maximum profits for antiterrorist insurance

Insurance Industry Stands to Benefit from Changes Wrought by Sept. 11

By Christopher Oster, The Wall Street Journal

For Marsh & McLennan Cos., the Sept. 11 attacks have meant two very different things.

But in the days after the attacks, even as the company was sorting out who was safe and who had perished, it quickly became clear that Sept. 11 presented a tremendous business opportunity for Marsh and other strong players in the industry.

Within days of the twin towers' destruction, Mr. Greenberg and top lieutenants began planning to form a new subsidiary to sell insurance to corporate customers at sharply higher rates than were common before Sept. 11. Marsh also accelerated plans to launch a new consulting unit to capitalize on heightened corporate fears of terrorism. Vice Chairman Charles A. Davis says the company is merely meeting new marketplace demands. "There's a financial reward for doing that," he says.

Modest Disruption

From a business perspective, the disaster caused only modest disruption for Marsh, which has 57,000 employees worldwide. On the evening of Sept. 11, Mr. Davis, Marsh's vice chairman and chief of its MMC Capital arm, sent a fax to Mr. Greenberg's home that accounted for the unit's employees - they were all safe - and suggested the formation of a new subsidiary that would underwrite corporate policies.

On Oct. 11, Marsh announced the formation of a new consulting unit, with Mr. Bremer at its head. Two weeks later, Marsh unveiled a partnership between its new unit and Versar Inc., a counterterrorism-service provider. The partnership will assess chemical and bioterrorism risks for corporate clients

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/04/1689149.php
Part II -- Billions in Pre-911 Insider Trading Profits Leaves a Hot Trail: How Bush Administration Naysayers May Have Let it go Cold

by Kyle F. Hence

Below are a few standouts on the SEC list <' *' indicates a WTC tenant; (-x) represents the multiple over average volumehttp://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif Airlines: UAL (285x), AMR (60x) Insurance sector: Marsh & McLennan (93x)*, Citigroup (45x), Swiss Re, XL Capital Brokers: Bear Stearns (60x), Morgan Stanley (27x)*, Merrill Lynch (12x)

Analysts also noted that though the insurance sector was one of the strongest in a depressed stock market, there were huge spikes in put options in Marsh & McLennan and in Citigroup. Marsh & McLennan, the biggest insurance broker, was a World Trade Center tenant with 1,700 employees. It also saw, next to UAL, the highest spike in put options; thus you have a confluence of facts that, in the minds of many experienced traders and experts, amounts to unequivocal evidence of foul play. Clearly traders placed bets based on sure-fire insider prior knowledge. The odds against this happening randomly or coincidentally are astronomical; probably incalculable.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/HEN204B.html
The Case for Bush Administration Advance Knowledge of 9-11 Attacks by Michael C. Ruppert © COPYRIGHT 2002, Michael C. Ruppert and FTW Publications, www.copvcia.com (http://www.copvcia.com/) all rights reserved. May be reprinted or distributed for non-profit purposes only.]

INSIDER TRADING The documented pre-Sept. 11 insider trading that occurred before the attacks involved only companies hit hard by the attacks. They include United Airlines, American Airlines, Morgan Stanley, Merrill-Lynch, Axa Reinsurance, Marsh & McLennan, Munich Reinsurance, Swiss Reinsurance, and Citigroup.

"I saw put-call numbers higher than I've ever seen in 10 years of following the markets, particularly the options markets,' said John Kinnucan, principal of Broadband Research, as quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle,"

'it's absolutely unprecedented to see cases of insider trading covering the entire world from Japan, to the U.S., to North America, to Europe."

http://www.themodernreligion.com/terror/wtc-unusualtrading.html
Marsh's secret world. It's like working for the CIA
November 1, 2004 The Secret World Of Marsh Mac By Marcia Vickers, Business Week

CEO Jeff Greenberg presides over the arrogant and tight-lipped culture of Marsh & McLennan, where conflicts of interest abound. There's more trouble coming for the world's largest insurance broker.

When Jeffrey W. Greenberg took the helm of notoriously secretive Marsh & McLennan Cos. (MMC ), a $12 billion financial-services company, on Nov. 18, 1999, analysts were happily buzzing that Greenberg was a gregarious, outgoing executive. The word on Wall Street was that he would raise the profile of Marsh Mac with more public appearances and open communication than his tightlipped predecessor, A.J.C. "Ian" Smith.

(...) At the center of the storm stands Jeff Greenberg, 53. If you ask almost anyone about him, you'll hear that he is smart as a whip, incredibly knowledgeable about the insurance business, well-spoken, and polished. Much like his father, Maurice R. "Hank" Greenberg, 79, the legendarily hard-charging chairman and CEO of insurer American International Group Inc. (AIG ), he has a history of being opportunistic when it comes to scoring profits for his company. Even now, his defenders insist that he inherited serious problems, particularly in the brokerage and mutual funds businesses, when he moved into the top slot....

The firm's obsessive focus on secrecy helps keep any misdeeds under wraps, say the sources. "Some companies have a culture based on kickbacks and undisclosed financial arrangements, and their people are forced to remain silent about wrongdoing," says Edward A.H. Siedle, a former Putnam compliance director and SEC official who now heads the Center for Investment Management Investigations in Ocean Ridge, Fla., which looks into pension fraud....

(...) But now it's MMC's top brass who are squirming. Being in the spotlight is highly uncomfortable for MMC -- long known as a patrician, white-shoe firm with an air so understated and secretive that at least one former exec likened it to working at the CIA. Its ranks have included Ambassador L. Paul Bremer III, former Presidential Envoy to Iraq, who recently ran MMC's crisis-consulting business; Stephen Friedman, President George W. Bush's top economic adviser and former Goldman, Sachs & Co. (GS ) co-chairman, who was an MMC senior principal; Craig Stapleton, the husband of George W. Bush's cousin Dorothy, who was an MMC president; and Lord Lang of Monkton, a former British Member of Parliament who still sits on the board....

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_44/b3906001_mz001.htm
Marsh's scandal list
THE MARSH BIRDS
* http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/MarshBirds.htm
KROLL, THE CONSPIRATOR
* http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/KROLL.htm (http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/KROLL.htm)
MARSH & McLENNAN’S MERCER CONSULTING
* http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/MM-Mercer.htm
MARSH & McLENNAN’S PUTNAM INVESTMENTS
* http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/MM-Putnam.htm
MARSH & McLENNAN’S TRIDENT FUNDS
* http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/TridentFunds.htm
Marsh Crisis Consultancy
The Crisis Consulting Practice of Marsh, Inc. (Marsh Crisis Consulting) is "an operating company of Marsh & McLennan Companies (MMC). Marsh's Crisis Consulting Practice provides services to corporations to help them plan for, manage and recover from a full range of crises such as natural disasters, product recalls, workplace violence and terrorism." (2)

Marsh Crisis Consultancy is part of Marsh, operated by Paul Bremer and has close connections to AIG, Kroll, Bush administration and Henry Kissinger. It is a top team of experts who had the means to carry out 9/11, since they had access to Marsh, they also had the opportunity and 9/11 was very much to their advantage and nobody seemed to care for the victims and even the destruction of their own office was irrelevant. Additional teams were available within Kroll who merged with Armor Holdings just before 9/11 and thus added a top UK and top Russian team to their crew.

Marsh Crisis Management
L. Paul Bremer is Chairman and CEO. Bremer has served as Chairman of the Marsh Political Risk Practice from 2000 until present. Bremer was Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism in 1986 and even played with Bio-Terror for a while. In 2003 he was put in charge of Iraq.

Former head was Craig Roberts Stapleton who is married to President George W. Bush's cousin Dorothy.

John Copenhaver is the senior vice president of Marsh Crisis Consulting and was Regional Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. He played a key role in the Sept. 11 emergency management team in New York City this past fall. (3)

MARSH FORMS CRISIS CONSULTING PRACTICE UNDER AMBASSADOR L. PAUL BREMER

"NEW YORK, October 11, 2001 - Marsh Inc. / Marsh, Inc., (...) Concurrently, Marsh and Control Risks Group LLC / Control Risks Group LLCjointly announced an agreement to provide a full range of political risk assessment services for clients' worldwide operations.

Their merger partners for Afghanistan and later Iraq:

Control Risks Group
Control Risks Group, based out of London, was founded in 1975 as a subsidiary of the Hogg Robinson insurance and travel group, becoming the first company to provide advice to clients involved in kidnap situations. The company began with the hiring of three SAS officers: Maj. David Walker, Arish Turle, and Simon Adams-Dale. Walker would go on to co- found Saladin Security and Keenie Meenie Services of Iran/ Contra noteriety. Turle would go on to co-found the Risk Advisory Group after a stint at Kroll, Inc.'s office in London. (4)

Sources:
1. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Marsh_%26_McLennan_Companies2. http://www.mmc.com/news/newsOperatingCompanies_bremer_06_02.php3. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Crisis_Consulting_Practice_of_Mars h%2C_Inc4. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Control_Risks_Group_LLC Back to top (http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82093&highlight=kroll#top)
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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/templates/webmasterbucket/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82094&sid=2507d7aa9aa231d43cab27eeed9ba79b#82094)Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: al-Cokeda Al Cokeda is the global drug running operation to fund black operations for the Intelligence Communities. This operation is nick named Al Cokeda because they used the drug runners in the 9/11 Commission Report as Al Qaeda members, the non-existing mystical radical Islam group. Al Cokeda does exist and is the preferred way to get funding for operations like 9/ 11.

Structure of Al Cokeda

Al Cokeda is a transnational organization which often has the following structure:

Top level: Saudi Arabia and Kuwait with Adnan Khashoggi as the man behind the scenes.

Subtop level: Flight schools, airplanes, ships which are owned by a American-German- Dutch consortium. Just like the top level these guys seem to be untouchable as well.

Operational level: Various drug runners and local wholesale dealers. This group does not seem to be untouchable.

The drug money is laundered through various source. One of the most important ones seem to be American International Group.

We get some insight in their operation from a 5.5 tons cocaine bust in Mexico.

Further reading at: demopedia.democraticunder.../Al-Cokeda (http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Al-Cokeda)

Magda Hassan
08-22-2009, 12:50 AM
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=82093&highlight=kroll
The previous post comes from Rigorous Intuition blog and it was originally posted on the Democratic Underground by Dr. DeBug DU. I was originally looking for information about Kroll Inc and came across it. It covers many areas and could just as well be filed under Money or Black Ops or Front Organisations etc. There is so much of interest there and a good 'big picture' view.

Peter Lemkin
08-22-2009, 06:33 AM
While I don't agree with all of his hypothesis, I'd say this person has done some VERY good homework and thining - and has soem important parts of the general picture. The film Who Killed John O'Neill is interesting - if annoying in its soundtracked double-voicing. I followed some of the links Magda originally posted...and decided to post this one... There are some interesting new [to me] names [or old names in new associations] that need others to follow-up on....but a lot of the 'usual suspects' in the ongoing criminal conspiracy that is trying to rule America and the World. Khashoggi's name popped out at me [among others] - if he was connected, then there really is a link to the old Iran-Contra crowd; and they in turn back to the JFK Assassination [and so much else in between!]..... Though posted above, I repost this part below...but I question the 'no-plane' and a few other pieces of it.

9/11 hypothesis
Posted by DrDebug in September 11
Sat Jul 15th 2006, 07:01 PM
Main post: http://tinyurl.com/m5k7f Wiki view: http://tinyurl.com/jqqjv
9/11 hypothesis
In 1986 Paul Bremer was appointed Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism and started to develop all kinds of plans with possible terrorists events. Even though the plans appear to have been created to prevent terrorism there is also the likelyhood that they were created for false flag terrorist events. Paul Bremer has extensive connections to the neo-conversatives, Henry Kissinger and in 1999 he becomes chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism and also joins the board of directors at Marsh Inc.

He describes his time at National Commission on Terrorism as follows in an interview at the Heritage foundation (U.S. front for the international intelligence agency Le Cercle): "catastrophic terrorism ... in the event of a catastrophic attack ... tens of thousands of casualties, where the American people are going to be screaming for a response, that a President is going to want to consider using the military in some fashion ... the example we use is Pearl Harbor ..." Since Paul Bremer has made many similar remarks, there is reason to assume that he was one of the chief architects of 9/11.

Jerome Hauer worked in 1999 at the SAIC's Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis. One of his task was the design of the Office of Emergency Management, an emergency command center, which Rudy Giuliani wanted to have build on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center (WTC7). Even though everybody around Rudy Giuliani and Jerome Hauer ridiculed the "bunker" on the 23rd floor, the decision was made to build it.

Since this office has never been used for its intented purpose and a different command center was established and used at Pier 92, there is reason to believe that the Office of Emergency Management was used to coordinate the World Trade Center attacks since it could withstand anything and had a perfect view on both the towers and the area around World Trade Center. There is no better place and safer place to coordinate World Trade Center than the Office of Emergency Management.

Later Jerome Hauer started to work for Kroll, a company closely linked to Marsh and at present a subsidiary. Kroll has been named by at least governments as a CIA front organization or a privatized CIA.

The most vital part in the 9/11 plan was getting the correct government. There are very close links between the Greenberg family (AIG, Kroll, Marsh etc.) and the Bush family and they have participated in companies like Harken Energy, Texas Rangers and Trilateral Investments among others. The Greenbergs had their own law firm called Greenberg-Traurig, currently independent but probably still has very close links.

Greenberg-Traurig represents Governor Jeb Bush and has close links to Antonin Scalia, Jack Abramoff and they represented George W. Bush in the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida election vote recount which was vital in stopping the recount.

Adnan Khashoggi is believed to be the hidden owner of Huffman Aviation and playing a major role behind the scenes in al-Cokeda, the drug running part of the intelligence community to finance black operations. Florida election official Theresa LePore was a private stewardess of Khashoggi’s private plane. Theresa LePore is the mastermind behind the butterfly ballot which presumably lead to thousands of votes from Al Gore to go to Pat Buchanan.

ChoicePoint, the company which purged the Democratic posters from the voter role, wanted to merge with Kroll, however negotiations failed for unknown reasons. They were used in 9/11 as well for the identification of the victims and were at the scene almost instantly.

One of the major goals of 9/11 was enabling the war in Afghanistan. The planning of the war had started in 2000 and was related to both an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan and a diminished heroin flow. Officially the restrict opium trade was blamed on the Taliban's strict interpretation of Islamic Shari. There are reasons to believe that Afghanistan didn't supply al-Cokeda any more and wanted to go into business for themselves. The Greenberg family and Adnan Khashoggi were also involved in both the oil and gas line in Afghanistan and the heroin from Afghanistan.

The United States started secret negotiations in 2001 with Afghanistan to ensure the flow of heroin and for the development of an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan. The secret negotiations failed. In the summer of 2001 officials threatened war against Afghanistan and in July it was reported that if military action would take place, it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.

A lot of mergers and last moment preparations were taken place in New York. On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Marvin Pierce Bush makes sure that he is no longer connected to the security of the World Trade Center.

Kroll merged with Armor Holdings thus adding two more specialized teams to their company: Defence Systems Limited, a British Private Military Contractor who protects the British Queen among others and Alpha Firm, the former top-KGB team during the cold war. With that merger they had at least four teams in their company and probably the best teams as well. AIG international reinsured the WTC buildings and made sure that their competitors got most of the reinsurance.

Louis Freeh, the director of the FBI at the time, is more or less forced out of his position and the same is done with John O'Neill, the former top anti-terrorist specialist, who gets offered a job at the World Trade Center security.

A lot of companies move into the World Trade Center who have some scandals and some other companies move out of the World Trade Center at the last moment.

Three weeks prior to 9/11 inside trading with put-options starts and is mainly focused on American Airlines, United Airlines, Marsh and numerous insurance agencies and companies with offices in the World Trade Center. From Thursday before 9/11 it reaches historic levels and is a global event.

No investigation into inside trading is made even though it is solid evidence for 9/11 preknowledge. A Canadian list of 38 companies is published and lists many companies inside the World Trade Center, defense contractors, almost all major airlines and several other companies with connections to either AIG or Citigroup (WTC7 was mainly occupied by Salomon Smith Barney who is a part of Citigroup. Deutsche Bank was the biggest inside trader of the all and that is maybe because the US CEO, "Buzzy" Krongard, is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it.

Mass. Electric Construction, a wire specialist, is discovered on the 84th floor of WTC2 - who is not listed on any official tenant listing and never mentions that they were there - and there are about 200 electric engineers working in the World Trade Center around the time. The Pentagon construction was performed by AMEC. Both AMEC and Tully Construction play a major role in the clean up of Ground Zero and both have specialized Controlled Demolition companies. No links to AIG have been discovered upto now.

Several war games were being played during 9/11 including one by Mr. Fulton and his CIA team who were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.

9/11 started at WTC1, because that was on Marsh's own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. Rudy Giulani and all the others establish an emergency center at Pier 92.

In Rudy's own words for the 9/11 Commission: "The reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center."

The next attacks were at WTC2 and the Pentagon since both were more difficult. Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the Greenberg family especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes). The 767/757 scenario is very unlike. Either there were no planes or it were Global Hawk-like missile with a specific homing beacon in WTC/ Pentagon.

WTC1 and WTC2 were destroyed with a Controlled Demolition to hide any evidence and after the whole game had been played WTC7 was pulled also because it contained the command center for the attacks.

Rudi Giulani and his team immediately set out to ship off all the debris without any investigation. The Bush administration immediately blaims al-Qaeda for the attacks and wants to implicate Saddam Hussein as well for another war in Iraq. The attack is blamed on the drug dealers working for their own organizations since they were Arabs and could be used as Muslim extremists. The Bush administration had no intention of investigating 9/11 since any investigation could turn up wrong doing.

The bin Laden family and all the other Saudis were the only people allowed to fly out of the United States.

Edwin Meese and Paul Bremer co-chaired the Heritage Foundation's Homeland Security Task Force, which created a blueprint for the Department of Homeland Security and a company associated with Paul Bremer offering privatized Homeland Security already registered the required domain prior to 9/11. The Bush administration immediately approves of their plans.

The United States with support from many more nations, who are often featured in 9/11 as well, invaded Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 as part of its War on Terra campaign. It should be noted that it is completely impossible to launch a full scale war with extremely detailed plans on such a short notice. In 2002, Opium production was back to a pre-war level of 3,400 tons and the construction of the oil and gas pipeline had started.

Because of tremendous pressure to launch an investigation into 9/11, a commission headed by Henry Kissinger - a name featured in 9/11 as well - was proposed, however nobody trusts a guy for whom a case for Crimes against Humanity exists and who can't leave the United States anymore.

The Kean Commission was used instead with close links to Condi Rice, Warren Buffett and Fiduciary Trust (one of the companies in WTC2). The commission piles lie upon lie and Dr. David Ray Griffin has found 115 lies. Elias Davidsson has demonstrated with mathematical techniques that the official acccount on 9/11 is simply not true based on a limited of lies. Applying David Griffin's research would result in a probability of correctness which is astronomically small.

On March 20, 2003 a war against Iraq was launched based on the 9/11 attacks without any evidence of wrong doing. Paul Bremer later became the Ambassador of Iraq and under his reign the insurgency started to spin out of control.

This story is based on the investigation into 9/11 called Who Killed John O'Neill. Further reading and references are available on the thread above. This summary is about showing a plausible explanation of 9/11 based on the stories and facts discovered thus far.

Flights investigation
Flight 11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
Flight 175
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...
Flight 77
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight...
Flight 93
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...

Ed Jewett
08-27-2009, 05:04 AM
9/11 is such a huge topic. so many threads, sources, boooks, videos, dead ends, false leads, disinfo, etc. (and I've backed off looking at it with ther intensity I used to), but in reviewing the above, the name ChoicePoint jumped off the screen at me screaming that something was missing. I checked in with my head and the name Hank Asher came to mind. You can Google him up and begin refreshing memories and databanks. In doing a little googling of my own just now, plus a quick search of the old 9/11 threads at CGCS [http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/index.php?showforum=281 ], and I found what was tickling my synapses.

There was a theory noted in a comment over at Rigorous Intuition (which I used to read religiously until the fellow got deep into his second book) which I re-posted Oct 11 2006.

The RI link noted was
http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/10/fight-real-enemy.html#comments.

Here's the relevant text from CGCS, which followed references to artistic descriptions of un-ease or dis-ease as a result of prior abuse, notably one by Sinead O'Connor:

"Mark Foley, we know, had been the co-chair of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, which was formed to provide federal assistance to the National Center of the same name. Its Board of Directors includes Floridian cocaine smuggler Hank Asher who founded the corporation which purged his state's voter rolls in 2000. [See http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/05/h...and-voting.html (http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/05/hank-asher-drugs-spying-and-voting.html) and http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hank_Asher ]

In 2003 [Asher] was hired to help identify potential terrorists for Florida's Department of Law Enforcement. ("This has been highly controversial, largely because of Asher's alleged past links to drug smuggling.") Foley himself played a leading role in suppressing the hand recount. So what are such men with such histories, and in such a state as Florida, doing orbiting about the issue of missing and exploited children?

(And it may be more curious still. A poster on the RI forum links Foley with Bush family favourite Mel Sembler's juvenille mind control enterprise "Straight," and connects Straight to Paul Bishop of the Johnny Gosch snake pit.) [See http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005...defense_08.html (http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/12/sembler-for-defense_08.html) and http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005...reat-satan.html (http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/02/great-satan.html) ]

"Don't get distracted - stay focused" - a lot of Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow Democrats will be saying that more than usual this month. Many of them think Foley represents a distraction, albeit a happy one. But perhaps it's the election itself that distracts Americans with a shiny hoax battlefield, away from the real war they would know better if they would heed the dis-ease of their storytellers."

The search link that re-disclosed that text is
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/index.php?act=findpost&hl=Asher&pid=628455 .



That said, http://911research.wtc7.net/ and http://www.oilempire.us/ always struck me as definitive and solid sites, as well as the archival work done at History Commons: http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project .