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Myra Bronstein
08-30-2009, 02:25 PM
Wonder if this makes Mick Jagger nervous.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1209906/Police-review-Rolling-Stone-Brian-Jones-death-MoS-reveals-new-evidence.html

"By Christopher Leake
Last updated at 9:59 PM on 29th August 2009

Mystery death: Brian Jones in 1965 with his then girlfriend, the model Anita Pallenberg

Police are reviewing the death of Rolling Stone Brian Jones Ė 40 years after his body was found at the bottom of a swimming pool.

The dramatic move by Sussex Police follows new evidence unearthed by The Mail on Sunday about the mysterious death of the rock legend which suggests he was murdered by his minder.

Officially, Jones drowned, aged 27, in his pool at Cotchford Farm, Hartfield, East Sussex, on July 2, 1969, while under the influence of drink and drugs.

An inquest recorded a verdict of death by misadventure, even though the post-mortem report said there were no illegal drugs in the starís body, just the equivalent of three-and-a-half pints of beer.

But now, a review officer based at Sussex Police CID headquarters has been assigned to trawl through 600 documents handed over by investigative journalist Scott Jones, who undertook a four-year probe into the guitaristís death.

The new evidence was compiled by Mr Jones Ė no relation to the dead Stone Ė and disclosed by this newspaper last November.

The move follows a three-and-a-half-hour meeting Mr Jones had with senior Sussex police officers last month when they discussed testimony from witnesses at the house on the night Jones died.

Detectives are studying previously unseen files released by the Public Records Office and may launch a new investigation if they believe there is enough new evidence.

This marks a U-turn by Sussex Police, who until now have rejected requests to reopen the case.

Scott Jones said last night: ĎThere is no time limit on the review. But after 40 years of mystery, anyone who values Brianís reputation will be happy to wait for the outcome.í

Last November, we revealed fresh evidence from nurse Janet Lawson, who found Jonesís body. She said she saw his minder, Frank Thorogood, jump into the pool and Ďdo something to Brianí. She was convinced he had killed Jones.

Thorogood died in 1994. Her claims are supported by PC Albert Evans, the first officer on the scene, who spoke to all the witnesses in the hours after Jonesís death and concluded he had died as a result of a fight with Thorogood.

New evidence also emerged about the original investigation by Detective Chief Inspector Bob Marshall, which shows that three unidentified witnesses were allowed to leave the scene without being interviewed.

Finally, police files have revealed how taxi driver Joan Fitzsimons, a former girlfriend of Thorogood, was attacked and left for dead three weeks after Brian Jones died. According to the official records, Ms Fitzsimons was planning to speak to the media about Jonesís death.

Thorogood was said to have been desperately searching for Ms Fitzsimons in the weeks before the attack because, the files reveal, she knew too much about the band. She died in 2002."

Jan Klimkowski
08-30-2009, 03:03 PM
Terry Rawlings
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Brian Jones: Who Killed Christopher Robin? The truth behind the murder of a Rolling Stone


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BOOK SYNOPSIS
In 1969, The Rolling Stones' founder Brian Jones was found dead in the swimming pool of his home, Cotchford Farm, AA Milne's old house. Through exhaustive research, Terry Rawlings has amassed evidence contradicting the official Accidental Death verdict and in this book, he names Jones' murderer. The first ever paperback edition is timed to coincide with a Hollywood movie about Jones's life and death.


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Paperback: 288 pages

Published by: Helter Skelter Publishing

Publish Date: 21 May 2005

ISBN-10: 1900924811

ISBN-13: 978-1900924818



http://terryrawlings.com/Who%20Killed%20Christopher%20Robin.htm

I read this some time ago - it was first published in the early 90s.

A couple of other accounts have been circulating for some time. The allegations are loosely as per wiki's account:


At around midnight on the night of 2-3 July 1969, Jones was discovered motionless at the bottom of his swimming pool at Cotchford Farm. His Swedish girlfriend, Anna Wohlin, is convinced he was alive when they took him out, insisting he still had a pulse. However, by the time the doctors arrived, it was too late, and he was pronounced dead. The coroner's report stated "Death by misadventure", and noted his liver and heart were heavily enlarged by drug and alcohol abuse[22]

Wohlin claimed in 1999 that Jones had been murdered by a builder who had been renovating the house the couple shared.[citation needed] The builder, Frank Thorogood, allegedly confessed to the murder on his deathbed to the Rolling Stones' driver, Tom Keylock; Keylock later denied this.[22] In the book The Murder Of Brian Jones, Wohlin alleges that Thorogood behaved suspiciously and showed little sympathy when Jones was discovered in the pool (he was the last to see Brian alive), but she admits she was not present at Jones's death.[citation needed] Witnesses who claim to have seen the "murder" have been interviewed by journalists; however, these witnesses have almost always used pseudonyms, and none has been willing to go on record or report to the police.[citation needed] A critical witness, still alive, is a man called 'Marty' in the Hotchner book 'Blown Away'. Another builder present, called Mo(rris) passed away a couple of years ago. A third builder present called Jeff is also still around.

Some of these "builders" and "chauffeurs" around Jones and the Stones allegedly had links to the London criminal underworld.

The seminal movie, Performance, was largely shot in 1968, and the whole Stones entourage were obsessed with gangster hardcore drug/sex/death glamour. The movie was co-directed by Nicholas Roeg and Donald Cammell.

Cammell was a collaborator/acolyte of Kenneth Anger, who made films such as Lucifer Rising.

Lucifer Rising starred one Bobby Beausoleil.

Bobby Beausoleil was a Manson Family member and assassin. Beausoleil sliced up alleged drug dealer Gary Hinman's face with a sword, and then cut off his ear. Later, Beausoleil murdered Hinman, and daubed "political piggy" on the wall in Hinman's blood.

Anita Pallenberg had been Brian Jones' girlfriend. By the time of Performance, she was Keith Richards' girlfriend. The film featured explicit (for the time) sex scenes involving Pallenberg and Jagger. Allegedly Pallenberg also had a relationship with James Fox, who played the gangster.

Allegedly, the filming of the second half of the movie, in the Notting Hill Gate house, was chaotic, with major hallucinogenic ingestion and mass paranoia as Cammell screwed with everyone's minds.

In Performance, the Jagger character has lost his creative mojo and tries to get inside the head of the gangster killer Fox through drugs, sex, and hypnotic trance.

Literally psychedelic possession.

The relevance to Brian Jones is that outside the fictional world, the Stones appear to have been engaged in analogous quests.

This is also the time of Altamont.

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1980

War, children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

Rape, murder, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

It's just a kiss away, it's just a kiss away.
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The end of the "Gimme Shelter" Altamont documentary:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CG1rbUdHKg

Murder at Altamont.

The Man made His move.

Peter Presland
08-30-2009, 04:10 PM
Terry Rawlings

Brian Jones: Who Killed Christopher Robin? The truth behind the murder of a Rolling Stone

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BOOK SYNOPSIS
In 1969, The Rolling Stones' founder Brian Jones was found dead in the swimming pool of his home, Cotchford Farm, AA Milne's old house. Through exhaustive research, Terry Rawlings has amassed evidence contradicting the official Accidental Death verdict and in this book, he names Jones' murderer. The first ever paperback edition is timed to coincide with a Hollywood movie about Jones's life and death.

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Paperback: 288 pages

Published by: Helter Skelter Publishing

Publish Date: 21 May 2005

ISBN-10: 1900924811

ISBN-13: 978-1900924818

Now I know they happen, but for someone who has become somewhat allergic to 'coincidence theory', the name of that publisher just jumps off the page at me.

I've had a quick chunter around their web site (http://www.helterskelterpublishing.com/content.asp?id=4) and does seem straight enough - maybe there was a sort of frisson to the name when they were starting up, or something like that - but it is a bit spooky eh?

Jan Klimkowski
08-30-2009, 04:24 PM
Now I know they happen, but for someone who has become somewhat allergic to 'coincidence theory', the name of that publisher just jumps off the page at me.

I've had a quick chunter around their web site (http://www.helterskelterpublishing.com/content.asp?id=4) and does seem straight enough - maybe there was a sort of frisson to the name when they were starting up, or something like that - but it is a bit spooky eh?

Peter - I'm sure the choice of name, Helter Skelter Publishing, is entirely deliberate.

"Helter Skelter" was of course the White Album song that "inspired" Manson to his ludicrous "race war" scenario, involving whites, blacks, Hells Angels, and Manson ruling the desert like some proto-Mad Max character.

The derivation could be ONI spook L Ron Hubbard's risible science fiction, or perhaps a programme put together by Manson's alleged ONI handler (discussed elsewhere on this site).

In the context of the Rolling Stones, the movie Performance, which I've touched upon above, is crucial. It is a film about hallucinogens, sex, death, possession, and the magickal attempt to get inside another's mind and steal their mojo.

In other words, dark, extreme, mind control.

Myra Bronstein
08-31-2009, 02:50 AM
Terry Rawlings
Home | Books | Image Gallery | Publishers | Contact | Links

Brian Jones: Who Killed Christopher Robin? The truth behind the murder of a Rolling Stone

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BOOK SYNOPSIS
In 1969, The Rolling Stones' founder Brian Jones was found dead in the swimming pool of his home, Cotchford Farm, AA Milne's old house. Through exhaustive research, Terry Rawlings has amassed evidence contradicting the official Accidental Death verdict and in this book, he names Jones' murderer. The first ever paperback edition is timed to coincide with a Hollywood movie about Jones's life and death.

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Paperback: 288 pages

Published by: Helter Skelter Publishing

Publish Date: 21 May 2005

ISBN-10: 1900924811

ISBN-13: 978-1900924818


http://terryrawlings.com/Who%20Killed%20Christopher%20Robin.htm

I read this some time ago - it was first published in the early 90s.
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Same here Jan. I read all the books on the subject that I'm aware of. And Christoper Robin was an excellent one. There's simply no doubt in my mind that Frank Thoroughgood done the deed. That part is crystal clear.

What's less clear is how he got away with such a blatant crime, and that brings to mind the role of the powerful and hugely wealthy Stones organization, who Thoroughgood directly reported to. Specifically Tom Keylock, who was in perfect position tocover up a murder. Hell, there were all the trademarks of a classic cover: bonfire of the victim's belongings immediately after the crime (like with Pat Tillman), a truncated investigation, threatened/assaulted witnesses. Someone with clout shut the investigation down.

This is not a big picture crime in my opinion, in the sense that the murders of John Lennon and Bob Marley were deep political murders due to the popularity, power, and political activism of the artists. But it is a bigger crime than just Frank Thoroughgood deciding to go all postal on Jones' ass on the spur of the moment. Thoroughgood knew he could get away with it, knew he could intimidate witnesses the second he got out of the pool, knew that the power of the Stones machine was behind him. He knew that the Stones hated and feared Jones because he was the spirit and soul and SOLE founder of the band, and he was going on the start another band --reportedly with John Lennon, but I have no idea if that's true. (Recent descriptions of him as A founding member are BS; he was THE founding member.)

Of course the cover up will continue, but it's good that it's getting a bit of publicity nonetheless.

Jan Klimkowski
11-01-2010, 07:48 PM
Updated link for:

War, children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

Rape, murder, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

It's just a kiss away, it's just a kiss away.

The end of the "Gimme Shelter" Altamont documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CG1rbUdHKg

(Hell's Angel footage from c2:40 in, Jagger clearly edited out of sync)

David Guyatt
11-01-2010, 10:21 PM
Maybe be slightly off topic - on the on the hand it might not be, but drug connected drowning in swimming pools in luxury essex homes belonging to top personalities seems to be an odd sort of fad:


Death of Stuart Lubbock
Following a party in the early hours of 31 March 2001, 31-year-old meat inspector Stuart Lubbock died after three witnesses, including Barrymore himself, claimed to have found him motionless in Barrymore's swimming pool. All charges were dropped when it later came to court, though witnesses could not agree on whether he was found floating on top of the pool or at the bottom of it.[16] The cause of death was found to be drowning. Lubbock, described as a "bubbly partygoer", had traces of drugs and alcohol in his system. Pathologists discovered severe anal injuries which some said were consistent with a sexual assault.[17]
Many tabloid newspapers accused Barrymore of holding drug-fuelled gay orgies in his home and asserted that he must have had some responsibility for the death. It was claimed that Barrymore had been seen at the party forcing cocaine onto Lubbock's gums,[18] an allegation Barrymore denied.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1r6PCTlSrG4J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Barrymore+death+in+pool+michael+barrymore' s+essex+home&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Keith Millea
11-02-2010, 01:54 AM
Updated link for:

War, children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

Rape, murder, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

It's just a kiss away, it's just a kiss away.

The end of the "Gimme Shelter" Altamont documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CG1rbUdHKg

(Hell's Angel footage from c2:40 in, Jagger clearly edited out of sync)

That long walk in to the concert as seen at the beginning of the video, is the reason that we left at dusk before the Stones played.There was only one little road in,and 200,000 people had to leave by it.So glad we left early.Incidently,that whole area now is covered with hundreds of giant windmills.It's pretty surreal when you drive through there.

Dawn Meredith
11-02-2010, 12:03 PM
Amazing. It seems that anyone can be murdered and the killers get off scott free. I had never seen this thread before and remember some vage story about Jone's making some "deal with the devil" for fame and fortune. Then drowning. Everything about the Stones seems spooky. Dripping in evil. (And I am a fan of their music)

Dawn

Albert Doyle
09-09-2011, 05:10 PM
While Brian Jones' caretaker Frank Thorogood allegedly confessed to murdering Jones on his deathbed in 1993 this new film claims to have proven it. I include it on the Political Assassinations board because Alex Constantine claims it was a covert murder:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-181829/Was-Brian-Jones-murdered.html


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Jan Klimkowski
09-09-2011, 06:56 PM
Excerpts below from the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-181829/Was-Brian-Jones-murdered.html#ixzz1XTzM6T8Z)article linked by Albert.


Was Brian Jones murdered?

by KEITH DOVKANTS, Evening Standard

FEW tears were shed for Brian Jones. He was, according to a contemporary, a "nasty little shit" and although he had started the Rolling Stones, his musicmaking genius burned out in a fever of drink and drugs. When he was found dead at the bottom of his swimming pool, aged 27, he was considered merely another casualty of the excesses that defined the 1960s.

Producer Steve Woolley returns from the Cannes Film Festival this week to realise a project he says will rewrite this dark chapter of rock 'n' roll history. Jones was murdered, Woolley believes, and he thinks he can prove it. The idea has been aired before in a conspiracy-theory kind of way, but Woolley claims his new film will provide conclusive proof that Jones's death was caused by an act of violence. And he will name the killer.

The screenplay Woolley took to Cannes has been seen by only a few people and remains a confidential document. He said when the film is made, later this year, he will hand his evidence over to the police. Until then the "proof" that Jones was murdered will be kept secret.

Woolley has been investigating the Brian Jones affair for nearly 10 years and he has left his own trail of clues. It is known, for example, that he has had long discussions with Anna Wohlin, Jones's girlfriend and a key witness. He has also probed deeply into the background of a member of Jones's entourage, an East End hard case who was with the rock star the night he died.

For anyone else who has investigated the Jones case, these facts point only one way. As Woolley concluded a series of meetings with the movie industry's money men - securing finance for the new film, he says - I put it to him that I could guess what was in his script.

"Yes, that is what has emerged," he said. "But we've spent years on this and we have uncovered all sorts of facts that were never brought out at the time. It is a fascinating and disturbing story. I believe the police will have to reopen the investigation."

So what will they find? The official records show that on the night of 2 July, 1969, Brian Jones was dragged from the floodlit pool at his home, Cotchford Farm, in Sussex, his lungs full of water and clinically dead. Attempts to revive him failed and at the inquest there was evidence he had been drinking and taking drugs.

Such deaths were part of the zeitgeist. If a young rock start died, this was the way it happened. The coroner recorded a verdict of misadventure and Brian Jones headed a long list of casualties that would include Keith Moon, Jimi Hendrix, Momma Cass, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin and many others.

It is not the dead who make the Jones story intriguing, but the living - people such as Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Anita Pallenberg. She was the mysterious blonde who captivated Jones at the beginning of his stardom. He was a restless, pretty young man, born into a middle-class family in Cheltenham.

When he simultaneously made his teenage girlfriend and married mistress pregnant, he packed up his guitar and headed for London. He was 19.

Jones, like many musicians of his generation, had fallen under the spell of the great American blues artists. He played in the London clubs that were beginning to spring up around the new music, and when he met Jagger and Richards the Rolling Stones were born. The name was chosen by Jones and he revelled in his role as leader of the group, but he was soon to fall out with his new friends.
He began drinking heavily and experimenting with drugs. His moods and foul temper enervated Jagger and Richards. Relations between the three founder members of the band disintegrated when Ms Pallenberg deserted Jones for Richards. Soon after, she had an affair with Jagger. Jones took himself off to Sussex, to Cotchford Farm, former home of AA Milne, creator of Winnie the Pooh.

THE Stones offered him a payoff of £100,000 and £20,000 a year - the equivalent of about £1 million and £200,000 in today's money - and he was thinking about it when he died. Sir Mick Jagger, who approved the deal, is said to be worth £170 million now. But he was always more shrewd than Brian Jones. Jones's household at Cotchford included his beautiful new girlfriend, Anna Wohlin, and a man called Frank Thorogood.

He was a burly cockney, 44 years old, who had become part of Jones's circle. He was friend, minder and factotum, and in the summer of 1969 he was organising building work on the farm.
Ms Wohlin, who returned to her native Sweden after Jones's death, never believed it was an accident, but as a very young womanin a foreign land, immediately swept up by the powerful interests that surrounded the Rolling Stones, she felt unable to influence events. Now she believes she can.

She has written her own version of the affair and collaborated with Woolley on the new film. The story she tells suggests at least one person had a motive for killing Jones. According to her, Thorogood had been cheating Jones out of money.

He had been inflating bills, swindling large amounts through the building work and when Jones discovered this he instructed his accountant not to pay any more of Thorogood's claims. Thorogood said he was owed £6,000 - the price of a London flat in those days - and he was furious. But the row blew over and he was at the house the night Jones decided to take a late swim.

Ms Wohlin, who now runs a successful family business in Sweden, remembers that Jones had drunk a little wine, but was not drunk. Indeed, the postmortem showed only a moderate amount of alcohol. She said he had not taken drugs, although some traces of substances were found in his body.

He was a strong swimmer, she said, and when she left him at the pool to take a telephone call, he had been fine. Fifteen minutes later he was dead.

Frank Thorogood, who had also been swimming in the pool earlier, finally jumped in to help her pull Jones out but, Ms Wohlin recalled, he showed no great interest in rescuing Jones quickly. She believes he probably murdered Jones by holding his head underwater while she was in the house, but she has no hard evidence to prove this.

BUT there is evidence that Thorogood was the killer, and it came from his own lips. Rock author Geoffrey Giuliano, in his book Paint It Black, claims Thorogood made a deathbed confession just before he died in 1993. He called his longstanding friend Tom Keylock, who was the Stones' road manager in the late Sixties, and, according to Giuliano, told him: "It was me that did Brian. I just finally snapped. It just happened."

That, of itself, would not prompt a reopening of the case. But Steve Woolley said he has more.
"Statements made at the time were factually incorrect,√ģ he said. "People lied - and we can prove that.√ģ

He is calling his film The Wicked World of Brian Jones. If what he believes is true, it was wicked indeed.

Albert Doyle
09-09-2011, 07:03 PM
Oops! Sorry, didn't see the thread already posted on this.


What I worry about is Jones' murder could have been part of Constantine's War On Rock and plausibly denied with a business-related motive like Hendrix's.

What is more than obvious is the basic police detective work that could have exposed this back in 1969 was never done. I think the politics that motivated that non-investigation is what sticks-out the most here.


The "deal with the devil" stuff is just classic psy-ops trying to denigrate their victims and make them look like they brought it on themselves.

Jan Klimkowski
09-09-2011, 07:26 PM
Oops! Sorry, didn't see the thread already posted on this.

Albert - no problem at all. The film is new, but I merged the threads because information on Brian Jones' death is relatively scarce.



What I worry about is Jones' murder could have been part of Constantine's War On Rock and plausibly denied with a business-related motive like Hendrix's.

What is more than obvious is the basic police detective work that could have exposed this back in 1969 was never done. I think the politics that motivated that non-investigation is what sticks-out the most here.


The "deal with the devil" stuff is just classic psy-ops trying to denigrate their victims and make them look like they brought it on themselves.

As per my post #2 in this thread, I'm strongly of the view that Jones' death has to be viewed in the context of Nic Roeg's Borgesian sex-death-drugs labyrinth peddled as Performance and of Altamont.

From the little we know, Thorogood, Jones' gangster minder-cum-shadow, was a version of the James Fox character in Performance

Albert Doyle
09-10-2011, 01:26 AM
What's kind of crazy is the plot in Performance applies more to Jimi Hendrix than Brian Jones. Hendrix was the one with mobsters infiltrated right into his team who took LSD and got dragged into the 60's scene.

It looks like Woolley found some of the gangster minders who were pretending to be workers and got some of them to talk. What gives me the creeps is how perfectly the gangster-minder profile fits intel's use of mafia in their COINTELPRO operation ala Constantine. Hendrix too. What people should be asking is whether Woolley himself is doing intel's work of spreading a business-related motive in order to create a false sponsor and cover-up the real deep sponsors...

Jan Klimkowski
07-02-2012, 07:45 PM
Revisting this thread a couple of years on.

I stand by my comments iin post #2.

And as a special treat I've updated the Altamont Gimme Shelter link with a working version.


Some of these "builders" and "chauffeurs" around Jones and the Stones allegedly had links to the London criminal underworld.

The seminal movie, Performance, was largely shot in 1968, and the whole Stones entourage were obsessed with gangster hardcore drug/sex/death glamour. The movie was co-directed by Nicholas Roeg and Donald Cammell.

Cammell was a collaborator/acolyte of Kenneth Anger, who made films such as Lucifer Rising.

Lucifer Rising starred one Bobby Beausoleil.

Bobby Beausoleil was a Manson Family member and assassin. Beausoleil sliced up alleged drug dealer Gary Hinman's face with a sword, and then cut off his ear. Later, Beausoleil murdered Hinman, and daubed "political piggy" on the wall in Hinman's blood.

Anita Pallenberg had been Brian Jones' girlfriend. By the time of Performance, she was Keith Richards' girlfriend. The film featured explicit (for the time) sex scenes involving Pallenberg and Jagger. Allegedly Pallenberg also had a relationship with James Fox, who played the gangster.

Allegedly, the filming of the second half of the movie, in the Notting Hill Gate house, was chaotic, with major hallucinogenic ingestion and mass paranoia as Cammell screwed with everyone's minds.

In Performance, the Jagger character has lost his creative mojo and tries to get inside the head of the gangster killer Fox through drugs, sex, and hypnotic trance.

Literally psychedelic possession.

The relevance to Brian Jones is that outside the fictional world, the Stones appear to have been engaged in analogous quests.

This is also the time of Altamont.

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/for...ead.php?t=1980

War, children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

Rape, murder, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away.

It's just a kiss away, it's just a kiss away.
-----------------------

The end of the "Gimme Shelter" Altamont documentary:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CG1rbUdHKg

Murder at Altamont.

The Man made His move.

Albert Doyle
07-02-2012, 07:53 PM
One of the signs of a real covert murder is how nothing happens. Even with so much evidence out there it gets absorbed by the Unspeakable.

Albert Doyle
07-09-2012, 02:40 PM
A 2005 British TV production worth watching. My question is who was the person on the phone to Anna Wohlin? Was the phone call a set-up to draw her away from the pool? If Frank Thorogood killed Jones after being fired what purpose did Thorogood kill Jones for? Was it because he could no longer carry out his assignment of monitoring Jones? Keylock definitely knows more than he's telling:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP6IpTFpXOQ



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Albert Doyle
02-27-2015, 10:14 PM
The truth about the murder of Brian Jones. A kindle-only book on Amazon.


By the way the "nasty little shit" and "burned out on drink and drugs" part of the Daily Mail article above is typical COINTELPRO defamation as an opening conditioning of the article in order to disparage the victim.




http://www.amazon.com/Brian-Jones-Final-Terry-Rawlings-ebook/dp/B00EN4QJPY/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425075167&sr=1-1&keywords=Brian+Jones+Truth




The British government just lies and says there's no new evidence when it needs to escape accountability for its wrongdoing. There's a serious conflict of interest there where no evidence is good enough and the government is allowed to rule on its own wrongdoing. This clearly constitutes a failure of due process and trust equal to a serious failure in civilized order:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1325289/Brian-Jones-case-reopen-despite-new-evidence-suggesting-murder.html


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David Guyatt
02-28-2015, 08:42 AM
Albert, why was he killed and why did the police cover it up, do you know?

Btw, the Sussex police don't have the greatest reputation historically, and were mired in the phone hacking inquiry ever here with one officer arrested for corruption.

Albert Doyle
03-01-2015, 03:55 PM
It's hard to imagine why Brian Jones would be killed for COINTELPRO-like reasons. His drug problems had pretty much sidelined him and forced him out of the Rolling Stones. If government forces were trying to cause the destruction of their targets personally Jones was already well on down the road on his own.

It's pretty much established that Jones' personal minder and groundskeeper Frank Thorogood murdered Jones by submerging his head underwater in a fit of anger. Apparently Thorogood had been skimming on construction costs for renovations at Jones' Cotchford Farm estate. I read that Jones waited until Thorogood had put out 6,000 pounds for the next job and then told him to pay for it out of what he had already taken. That was the alleged source of the conflict that supposedly came from Thorogood's own mouth in a death bed confession to Rolling Stones manager Tom Keylock.

Some researchers have found evidence that there might be more to it than that. They found that Mick and Keith had visited Brian that day and that there was an argument. The former were trying to arrange a negotiated settlement for Brian's exit from the band. Mick has made some statements about Jones' death saying he got as good as he gave and that they were young at the time. Sounds like Mick is referring to something there. Also, witnesses saw Tom Keylock at the estate that afternoon and he later lied about it.

Though it may not apply in this case, one must always take the letter of the law in COINTELPRO's own self description that they intended to cause the deaths of their targets by creating conflicts between the people around them that would cause those people to kill the target, therefore creating plausible deniability. So there is the outside possibility that the problems with Thorogood were deliberately instigated with this intended result. And, there is also the possibility Mick and Keith would not be too upset that this major problem for the band had been solved.

There's no doubt the police made an effort to not investigate so one must try to figure out the reason. Anyone versed in Deep Politics, their method, and purpose would see there's much potential here. As usual, there's a group of people who are staying quiet now because they don't want to discuss why they stayed quiet at the time.