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Mark Stapleton
09-21-2009, 06:53 AM
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/20-4


Froomkin doesn't really say, but its a very good question. History tells us desperate times result in extremist Governments.


I've still got a hunch the US may not endure in its current form. There's a bit of secessionist talk coming from Texas. The south never seems happy and the Government is still racing headlong in the opposite direction to the people. I don't think there's much holding the US together except hollow patriotism.

Magda Hassan
09-21-2009, 07:48 AM
We have to be our own salvation. It is not going to come from the heavens. Charlton Heston is not going to appear as God and tell us what to do. There is no great alpha daddy coming to rescue us and make it all better. Start local and eventually we all join up. It's up to us.

Keith Millea
09-21-2009, 05:43 PM
I've still got a hunch the US may not endure in its current form. There's a bit of secessionist talk coming from Texas. The south never seems happy and the Government is still racing headlong in the opposite direction to the people. I don't think there's much holding the US together except hollow patriotism.

It is nothing new that Texans talk about secession.It's in their DNA,and they are quite proud of thinking this way.In fact,to a great many Texans if you are not so inclined to believe in this,you are not really considered a true Texan Patriot.

As for who will harness the rage?Right now,I'd have to say that Glen Beck has done a fine job of cornering the rage crowd.While Limbaugh grabs the Christian base,Beck has grabbed hold of the Independents and Libertarians.The Democrats as usual disoriented and mumbling.

In the video section I posted a clip from the Colbert show about Beck.Whether you thought the anal exam was funny or not,watch the video just looking at how Beck is using mind control/hypnosis type techniques.This seems to be his first show.Modus Operandi clearly detected.....:driver:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/Colbert_gets_anal_exam_in_honor_0212.html

Look into his eyes!He alone will tell you the TRUTH.........

Ed Jewett
09-21-2009, 06:18 PM
The Second Vermont Republic is a nonviolent citizens' network and think tank opposed to the tyranny of Corporate America and the U.S. government, and committed to the peaceful return of Vermont to its status as an independent republic and more broadly the dissolution of the Union.

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/

(http://www.vermontrepublic.org/)
The Middlebury Institute
For the study of separatism, secession, and self-determination.
www.middleburyinstitute.org (http://www.middleburyinstitute.org/)

Come to Vermont, Help Us Secede, and Escape the Empire
Author: Thomas H. Naylor

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/come_to_vermont_help_us_secede_and_escape_the_empi re

Dismantling the Political Spectrum
Author: Tom Malinich

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/dismantling_the_political_spectrum

Recommended by James Howard Kunstler:
A catalog of 8 books on solutions for sustainability
http://www.aztext.com/Aztext_Press_Cat_Sprng09.pdf


and see Chris Hedges at TruthDig
Globalization Goes Bankrupt
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090921_globalization_goes_bankrupt

Keith Millea
09-21-2009, 07:37 PM
Talk,lots of talk............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)


Cascadia (commonly called the Republic of Cascadia as a full name) is a proposed name for an independent sovereign state advocated by a grassroots environmental movement in the Pacific Northwest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest) of North America. This state would hypothetically be formed by the union of British Columbia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia), Oregon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon), and Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington). Other suggested boundary lines also include Idaho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho) (all or parts), western Montana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Montana), Northern California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_California), parts of Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska), and parts of the Yukon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukon). This type of "federation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation)" would require secession from both the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) and Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada). The boundaries of this proposed republic could incorporate those of the existing province and states.

http://zapatopi.net/cascadia/

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/303305.shtml

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