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Ed Jewett
10-14-2009, 02:06 AM
From http://www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.htm:

IT WASN'T MUSLIMS


With a peer-reviewed scientific journal having published (http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM) "loaded gun" (i.e. unreacted nano-thermite (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/activethermite.html)) evidence finally proving beyond doubt that World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2 and 7 were brought down in a series of controlled demolitions, here are a few more facts to consider.
It wasn't Muslims in an Afghan cave (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101011224-188545,00.html) who had access to highly energetic nano-thermites (http://www.911blogger.com/node/19761); it was the US military (http://ammtiac.alionscience.com/pdf/AMPQ6_1ART06.pdf) and government scientists such as those connected with NIST (http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-1.pdf).
It wasn't Muslims who ran a construction company (http://www.turnerconstruction.com/) that was awarded a $124 million contract (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:smqER_j5z8QJ:www.jdland.com/dc/timeline.cfm+turner+constructed+navsea+headquarter s&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk) for construction of the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) headquarters in Washington, DC (http://www.manganaro.com/projgovt.htm), which oversees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Surface_Warfare_Center) the Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_Naval_Surface_Weapons_Center) (NSWC-IH), which was described during the 1990s as the "National Center for Energetics (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-574412.html)", the military's term for "explosives work" (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:9e9hCdVthYsJ:www.enme.umd.edu/CECD/documents/news-articles/washpost-etc-101506.pdf+%22energetics,+the+military%27s+term+fo r+explosives+work%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk), and as of 1999-2000 the "only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States (http://ret.sdsmt.edu/projectdescr.htm)"; it was Tom Leppert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Leppert) who was CEO of Turner Construction (http://www.turnerconstruction.com/corporate/content.asp?d=1222) as of 9/11/01 (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:w58C69JPB7sJ:www.conceptelemental.c om/Tom_Leppert.doc+ceo+turner+construction+%22tom+lep pert%22+1999+2006&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk), and who even writes parts of Presidential speeches (http://cmc.edu/news/pressreleases/grad08/Claremont_Commencement_final.doc).
It wasn't Muslims who ran a construction company (http://www.turnerconstruction.com/) that had supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome (http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqLocId=7&reqItemId=20030317140323), participated in the post 9/11 collection and disposal of the steel wreckage (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KVT/is_5_4/ai_93610785) of the WTC towers, and carried out extensive renovations throughout the World Trade Center complex right up to the morning of 9/11 including fireproofing upgrades (http://www.takeourworldback.com/images/TurnerContract4.png) on the (http://www.takeourworldback.com/images/TurnerContract5.png) floors that (http://www.takeourworldback.com/images/TurnerContract2.png) were struck by planes (http://www.911blogger.com/node/13272) and subsequently "failed", when the steel had already been certified (http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/kevin_ryan/newstandard.html) to ASTM E119 by Universal Laboratories (http://911review.com/articles/ryan/letter.html), and, in tests sponsored by NIST on corresponding floor assemblies (http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/ULTestResults.pdf) subjected to greater heat exposure (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:FdoA45mzYJ8J:www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=weidlinger_associates_1+%22inhib ited+the+fires%22+%22significantly+lower+than+thos e+associated+with+typical+%E2%80%9Cfully+developed %E2%80%9D+office+fires%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) and protected with less fireproofing than was the case at the WTC (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:_SfrukERcPAJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center+%22NIST+found+t he+average+thickness+to+be+2.5+inches%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk), the test specimens "were able to sustain the maximum design load (http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build05/PDF/b05042.pdf)" without collapsing for as long as the tests were run (2 to 3 1/2 hours); it was Tom Leppert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Leppert) who was CEO of Turner Construction (http://www.turnerconstruction.com/corporate/content.asp?d=1222) as of 9/11/01 (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:w58C69JPB7sJ:www.conceptelemental.c om/Tom_Leppert.doc+ceo+turner+construction+%22tom+lep pert%22+1999+2006&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk) and received a Torch of Conscience award (http://www.ajcongress-sw.org/TOC/toc_past_recipients.htm) from the American Jewish Congress (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:4aWtBBziBVEJ:www.the7thfire.com/9-11/Pastore_Investigation_of_%209-11/chapter_7--Zionist_power_structure_in_America.htm+%22American +Jewish+Congress%22+%22By+their+own+admission,+the se+groups+are+capable+of+unseating+Congressmen+and +Senators+that+do+not+carry+out+their+requests%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk).
It wasn't Muslims who trained their cameras on the World Trade Center Towers prior to the first aircraft impact (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34250,00.html), who danced and celebrated (http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/sept11/herald_spies.html) with high fives prior to the second impact as most onlookers still believed it had been a terrible accident (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17260.htm) rather than terrorism, and who were caught with foreign passports, $4,700 in cash (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm) hidden in a sock, maps highlighting certain places in the city, and a van that tested positive for traces of explosives (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html); it was Israelis Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner, and Omer Marmari (http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/21/us/nation-challenged-detainees-dozens-israeli-jews-are-being-kept-federal-detention.html), several of whom have been confirmed as Mossad agents (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html), as part of their job in "documenting the event (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:c8TQSqErmaQJ:whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html+%22How+did+they+know+there+would +be+an+event+to+document+on+9/11?+%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk)".
It wasn't Muslims who were caught on 9/11/01 operating in teams (http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/911_car_bombs_mystery.htm) with vans full of explosives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVDCzymSTw8), including one team who attempted to blow up (http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/09/corroborating-orwell-van-full-of.html) the George Washington Bridge (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/jpost.html?q=jpost.html) with a truck packed with tons of explosives (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/se.04.html), and another who blew up a van between 6th and 7th on King Street (http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2005/07/01/10-5-the-message-about-the-remote-controlled-plane) with a mural painted of a remote controlled airplane diving into New York and blowing up (http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2006/05/03/confirming-the-exploding-mural-van-coverup); it was Israelis (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm), which is why the authorities did their best to ignore and bury these reports (http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2007/09/orwells-triumph-there-is-no-van-full-of.html) which included a suspected van bomb driven into the WTC basement (http://mnchange.org/vans-with-explosives-confirmed-at-the-world-trade-center-on-september-11th) and exploded to weaken the structure.
It wasn't Muslims who were caught shortly after midnight on May 7, 2002 very close to the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/whidbey-island.htm), Oak Harbor, Wash., (where the Navy conducts explosive ordnance training (http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/news/26071204.html) for bomb disposal mobile units (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/navy/eodmu11.htm) to the consternation of local marine life) with a rental truck that tested positive for TNT and RDX plastic explosives (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52681,00.html); it was Israelis (http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/globemovers.htm) whose cover story was of "delivering furniture" but regarded by authorities as dubious because of the early morning hour, and the authorities' subsequent claim that the dog's reaction and initial tests for explosives were wrong is so full of holes (http://www.worldsfairstlouis.org/rental-truck-for-moving-furniture.php) that it merely demonstrates the power of the Israeli lobby (http://www.nowarforisrael.com/Bush%27s%20Israeli%20Advisors%20Push%20America%20I nto%20War.htm).
It wasn't Muslims who were in New York on 9/11 (http://www.wtc7.net/cache/washingtontechnology_giuliani.html) and in London on the morning of the 7/7 attacks (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050808&articleId=821); it was Benjamin Netanyahu (http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/us/day-terror-israelis-spilled-blood-seen-bond-that-draws-2-nations-closer.html) and Rudy Giuliani (http://julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-timeline.html).
It wasn't Muslims who received advance warning of the London 7/7 attacks; it was Benjamin Netanyahu (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/070705israelwarned.htm) and the Mossad (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3111121,00.html).
It wasn't Muslims who provided two hours' advance warning of an attack on the World Trade Center (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/09/WTC_Odigo.html) via an instant messaging company based in Herzliya; it was Israelis (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744).
It wasn't a Muslim who fled the US on September 14, 2001 (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/03/WTC/spies9.html); it was Dominick Suter of "Urban Moving Systems (http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/press/storage.htm)" who fled to Israel (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=dominick_suter).
It wasn't over a hundred (http://news.haaretz.co.il/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=162902&contrassID=2&subContrassID=5&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y&itemNo=162902) Muslims who, from around January 2000 to September 2001 (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=_israeli_art_students_), posed as "art students (http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2002/05/07/students/index.html)" and attempted to penetrate US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) offices and other federal buildings including 36 sensitive Department of Defense (DoD) sites (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Israelis4.html), were caught with diagrams of the interior of federal buildings and photographs of federal agents and often evaded security by entering through back doors or parking garages, and even visited the homes of senior federal officials (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:GndFnQIt5McJ:dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2002/05/07/students/index.html+%22Strangest+of+all,+the+students+had+v isited+the+homes+of+numerous+DEA+officers+and+othe r+senior+federal+officials%22&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk) but not those of their neighbors; it was Israelis (http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=760), none of whom were "art students" but many of whom had backgrounds in Israeli military intelligence. Not surprisingly, the Press went for a limited hangout by trying to pretend the Israelis were merely shadowing "Arab hijackers" and either failed to pass on information, or "it was not treated seriously (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/2294487.stm)", the old canard about "intelligence failure (http://www.wanttoknow.info/911timeline2pg)". The operations of the Israeli fake "art students" is well documented (http://www.christopherketcham.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Gerald%20Shea%20Memo%20to%20the%209-11%20Commission.pdf), including plenty of names and even descriptions. An unusually large number of these Israelis were located in Irving, Dallas, TX (p.23, previous link), which is about ten miles (http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=9525+Alva+Ct,+Dallas,+TX+75220&geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=Irving,+Tx&f=d&sll=32.874559,-96.816266&sspn=0.011984,0.015149&ie=UTF8&z=12) west of Tom Leppert's Alva Court home (http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=Leppert), which is barely more than a mile north (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=10141+Daria+Place,+Dallas,+TX&daddr=9525+Alva+Ct,+Dallas,+TX+75220&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=32.85489,-96.887495&sspn=0.191791,0.242386&ie=UTF8&z=15) of the Dallas home that George W. Bush moved into (http://www.buzzfeed.com/buth/george-w-bushs-dallas-home) after leaving office.
It isn't Muslim countries that have a massive spy ring in the USA (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.html) capable of tapping into much of the telecoms network (http://www.counterpunch.org/ketcham09272008.html) and using information obtained to blackmail Americans; it is Israel (http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/articles/dip_0142.htm).
It wasn't Muslims who received advance warning on Monday September 10, 2001, against flying the next day; it was San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown (http://www.sfgate.com/today/0912_chron_mnreport.shtml), and a group of top Pentagon officials (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/GWBwereAtWar.html).
It wasn't Muslims who acquired a 99-year lease (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_payment.html) on the World Trade Center's Twin Towers, Buildings Four and Five and approximately 400,000 square feet of retail space (http://www.panynj.gov/pr/68-01.html), and insured for billions of dollars (http://www.washtimes.com/news/2004/dec/06/20041206-093135-1284r/) against terror attacks (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/background/owners.html) a mere six weeks before terror attacks did in fact occur (http://www.silversteinproperties.com/inner_page.aspx?id=2), and then employed (to press for the insurance claim) a 'structural engineer (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/buildingbig/profile/interview/levy_field.html)' who misleadingly (http://www.911review.com/articles/jm/cache/fr006.htm) asserts that steel loses half its strength at "400 degrees" (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=matthys_levy_1); it was - in a deal negotiated by Lewis Eisenberg (http://www.rjchq.org/About/biodetail.aspx?id=4061208c-f64a-4188-aa28-8157a23c09fb) of the Port Authority - Benjamin Netanyahu's (and Ariel Sharon's and Ehud Barak's) friend (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=97338&contrassID=3&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=0) Larry Silverstein and his partner (http://911review.com/motive/insurance.html) Australian billionaire and "Holocaust survivor" Frank Lowy (http://crimes-of-zion.blogspot.com/2007/09/frank-lowy-zionism-and-911.html) who fought "in the Jewish underground", was embroiled in a high-level bank corruption scandal (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1773614.htm) with Israeli Premier Ehud Olmert (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:ER3kpEN0hGYJ:www.pmo.gov.il/PMOEng/Archive/Speeches/2009/02/speechmatkal230209.htm+%22in+many+instances,+we+pr efer+to+see+it+as+the+Israel+Offense+Forces%22+Ehu d+Olmert&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) and found to be making payments to Lord (Michael Abraham) Levy (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/04/Israel/STimes140402.html) who was arrested several times (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6314881.stm) in relation to a "cash for honors" scandal, Levy being a "tennis partner" and advisor of Tony Blair (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6320399.stm).
It isn't Muslims who have a reputation for perpetrating arson scams in order to claim off insurance companies (http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/successful_fire_jewish_lightning) as evidenced by any colloquial use of the term "Muslim lightning"; it is Jews as evidenced by the recognized term "Jewish lightning (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jewish%20Lightning)".
It wasn't Muslims who normally breakfasted at the Windows on the World restaurant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_on_the_World) on the 106th and 107th floors of the North Tower, but by some bizarre coincidence did not happen to be there on 9/11 and were thus spared the fate of occupants on that tragic day (none of whom escaped from the floors above the aircraft impact (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/18/september11.usa3) at 8:46 AM); it was Larry Silverstein who was spared due to having a "dermatologist's appointment" (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/03/12/after_sept_11_rebuilding_is_still_a_question), an event which also spared his two children who worked at Silverstein Properties.
It wasn't a Muslim who went on TV within hours of the attacks (http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101hauer911#a091101hauer911) to tell everyone that "It... certainly has the fingerprints of somebody like bin Laden" and the World Trade Center had collapsed because of "the velocity of the plane" and "intense heat probably weakened the structure as well", and who reportedly on that very day advised the White House to take Cipro (http://www.911blogger.com/node/17040), an effective antibiotic against anthrax, seven days before the commencement of an anthrax letters terror campaign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks) targeted at Democratic U.S. Senators (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/13/AR2006101301417.html) and news media offices (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/hc-anthrax1009.artoct09,0,7158595.story?coll=sfla-news-palm), who on 9/11/01 was a managing director of the crisis and consequence management group at Kroll Associates (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:7qV64bDS870J:investing.businessweek .com/businessweek/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=10005698&capId=13627017&previousCapId=13627017&previousTitle=Emergent%20BioSolutions%2C%20Inc.+%2 2He+served+as+a+Managing+Director+of+the+crisis+an d+consequence+management+group+at+Kroll+Associates +from+October+2000+to+February+2002.%22&hl=en&strip=1), who was an advisor to the Council of Foreign Relations (http://www.cfr.org/project/209/henry_a_kissinger_roundtable_on_terrorism.html) (CFR) regarding "epidemiological surveillance" and national security advisor at the National Institute of Health (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Hauer) (NIH), and who gave his 'friend' John O'Neill a job as Head Of Security at the World Trade Center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._O%27Neill); it was Jerome Hauer (http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/02/meet-jerome-hauer-911-suspect-awaiting.html).
It wasn't Muslims who carried out a terror campaign mailing letters containing anthrax spores that had their electrostatic charge altered so that they would disperse more readily (http://www.cfr.org/publication/9555), anthrax that was traced to the weapons grade Ames strain originating at the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126974.100-revealed-scientific-evidence-for-the-2001-anthrax-attacks.html) (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick (http://usamriid.detrick.army.mil/location.htm), neither was it the FBI's final "suspect" (http://www.fbi.gov/anthrax/amerithraxlinks.htm) Roman Catholic Bruce Ivins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Edwards_Ivins), who, unlike the true perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks, had no motive to target news media and Opposition Senators and thereby scare them into uncritical acceptance of the "Arab hijackers" conspiracy theory. Ivins died of an overdose and alleged "suicide" in July 2008 (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-anthrax1-2008aug01,0,2864223.story) after the FBI gave up attempting to pin the blame on Steven Hatfill because there was not a scintilla of evidence against him (http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/28/nation/na-anthrax28); a logical suspect is Philip M. Zack (http://aztlan.net/zack.htm) who left Fort Detrick under a cloud in December 1991 after having headed a clique calling itself the "Camel Club" that was racially harassing Egyptian-born Dr. Ayaad Assaad (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=philip_zack_1). Zack was found by a 1992 inquiry to have been caught on surveillance camera being let into a Fort Detrick lab building at 8:40 p.m. on Jan. 23, 1992 (http://whatreallyhappened.com/ARCHIVE/ctnow_com%20SPECIALS.htm) apparently by Dr. Marian Rippy, a lab pathologist and close friend of Zack. The inquiry also found someone had been in a lab late at night secretly conducting unauthorised research, evidently on anthrax believed to include the Ames strain. Nearly ten years on, during the week between 9/11 and the commencement of the anthrax campaign, the FBI received an anonymous letter attempting to frame Dr. Assaad as a "bioterrorist" (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423081,00.html). The anthrax letters seemed contrived so as to appear to have been written by a Muslim (http://www.washington-report.org/archives/sept-oct02/0209018.html), and a New York Times writer told of a "Mr. Z." who failed some FBI polygraph tests and was once caught with a girlfriend at Fort Detrick "surrounded only by blushing germs" (http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/02/opinion/02KRIS.html).
It wasn't a Muslim who was claimed to have been killed on the alleged American Airlines "Flight 77", to have lived at Silver Spring, Maryland (http://www.nbi.dk/%7Epredrag/politics/11sept2001/Caswell/W.E.Caswell.htm) (as did a certain (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&view=text&hl=en&q=%22zakheim+Dov+Dr%22+%22silver+spring%22) Rabbi Dr. Dov Zakheim (http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1047.shtml)), and to have worked on top-secret "deep-black (http://www.wolaa.org/files/Summer_2007_LEAF.pdf)" projects at the Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:qvTuPH3VHncJ:911review.com/articles/ryan/nist_thermite_connection.html+%22William+Caswell%2 2+NSWC-IH&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk) (NSWC-IH), a "renowned leader in energetics (http://www.ih.navy.mil/Directorates/cao/emtc/index.asp)" which operates an "Energetics Manufacturing Technology Center", carries out "advanced research in energetic systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head,_Maryland)" and "absorbed the function of the closed Naval Ordnance Laboratory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Ordnance_Laboratory), formerly in White Oak, MD" which is a couple miles from Silver Spring; it was William E. Caswell (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#William_Caswell).
It wasn't Muslims who were claimed to have been killed on the alleged "Flight 77" and who worked for government or defense, particularly the Navy; it was John Yamnicky (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#John_Yamnicky) who, strangely, for the first time did not tell his daughter that he was going on trave (http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jdyamnicky.htm)l, and who, like William Caswell (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=%22i+worked+with+bill+caswell+a+number+of+years+ ago%22+%22deep-black%22&btnG=Search), had worked for the Navy on top-secret "black" projects. Others included Charles Burlingame (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Charles_Burlingame), a former Navy fighter pilot who used to work in the section of the Pentagon that was hit and who had formulated a response for the eventuality of an airliner being flown into the Pentagon and whose daughter Wendy subsequently died in a "suspicious fire (http://www.nypost.com/seven/12062006/news/regionalnews/9_11_kin_horror_regionalnews_jeane_macintosh_and_c ynthia_r__fagen.htm)" at a 50-story high-rise in New Jersey in December 2006, Wilson "Bud" Flagg (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Wilson_Flagg), a retired American Airlines pilot and Navy Admiral, Stanley Hall (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Stanley_Hall), an expert in anti-radar technology and a director of program management at Raytheon, Bryan Jack (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Bryan_Jack), a senior executive and top budget analyst who worked at the Pentagon, Chandler Keller (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Chandler_Keller), a Boeing propulsion engineer, Dong Lee (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Dong_Lee), a Boeing engineer who worked for their Integrated Defense Systems and who had worked for the National Security Agency (NSA) for 14 years, Barbara Olson (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Barbara_Olson), CNN commentator and wife of the US Solicitor General who claimed to have received cell phone calls from "Flight 77", Ruben Ornedo (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Ruben_Ornedo), a Boeing propulsion / satellite communications engineer, Robert Penniger (http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html#Robert_Penniger), an electrical engineer with BAE Systems, and another dozen alleged "Flight 77 passengers" who were linked to defense and government who, we are told, all just happened to be on (http://911review.org/Wiki/Flight77Passengers.shtml) this unusually low occupancy (http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/index.html) flight. These people, well loved and respected (http://chench.com/) as honest, decent heroes, are the very sort of characters whose work could have been horrifically exploited without their knowledge, and whom the 9/11 perpetrators would need to eliminate to prevent them speaking out after the attacks.
It wasn't Muslims who profited by speculating on airline and insurance stocks in advance of 9/11 (http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a048.htm); it was Israelis.
It wasn't Muslims who concocted a hoax about pork-swilling (http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/428), money-eschewing (http://jewishtribalreview.org/forbes.htm), celibate (http://www.venusproject.com/ethics_in_action/Israel_Sex_Slavery.html), truthful (http://wake-up-america.net/KOL%20NIDRE.htm), courageous (http://www.radioislam.org/eng/gaza_jewish_holo.htm), pro-animal rights (http://www.chooseveg.com/kosher-slaughter.asp), "devout Jews" who were "suicide hijackers / pilots", almost half of whom (http://guardian.150m.com/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm) later turned up alive and well (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm); it was Jews who concocted a hoax about drinking (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/14/whunt114.xml), gambling (http://www.casinowatch.org/terrorists/terrorists_at_casinos.html), strip joint-frequenting (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/10/04/MN102970.DTL), womanizing (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:toWtNxZZ-z8J:transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/08/se.04.html+%22hijackers+were+out+clubbing,+boozing ,+womanizing%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk), "devout Muslims" who were "suicide hijackers / pilots", almost half of whom (http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/planes/evidence/worldmessenger_alive.html) later turned up alive and well (http://911review.org/Wiki/HijackersAliveAndWell.shtml).
It wasn't a Muslim who was a former unit team leader in an elite special forces unit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayeret_Matkal) and whose father was a senior aide (http://www.answers.com/topic/benjamin-netanyahu), secretary and pallbearer (http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j061103.html) to a man who in 1937 was commander of the Irgun Tzvai Leumi (http://www.israelnewsagency.com/jabotinskywritingsjewishisraelrussiamichaelcherney chernoyzionism66041807.html), a Jewish terrorist organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun) responsible for atrocities such as the King David Hotel bombing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_Bombing); it was Benjamin Netanyahu (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article690085.ece).
It wasn't a Muslim who was the mentor of Benjamin Netanyahu's father Benzion (http://openlibrary.org/b/OL415527M/Jabotinsky%27s-place-in-the-history-of-the-jewish-people) and who wrote a column in the Revisionist Zionist magazine Doar Hayom under the title "From the Notebook of a Fascist", praising Mussolini and referring to (http://www.salon.com/col/hitc/1998/04/nc_13hitc2.html) one-time commander of the Irgun Ze'ev (Vladimir) Jabotinsky (http://www.knesset.gov.il/vip/jabotinsky/eng/Revisionist_frame_eng.html) as "our Duce"; it was Abba Ahimeir the founder of Revisionist Maximalism, a Jewish fascist ideology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Maximalism).
It wasn't Muslim terrorists who plotted to assassinate British foreign secretary Ernest Bevin (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12205.htm); it was Jewish terrorists (http://www.washington-report.org/archives/May-June_2006/0605014.html).
It wasn't Muslims who orchestrated, and whose operatives were caught red-handed (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html) in, a failed false-flag terrorist campaign in Egypt (http://mideastweb.org/lavon.htm); it was Israel (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/mossad/lavon_affair.htm).
It wasn't Muslims who attacked the USS Liberty (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html) killing 34 Americans, and had the US President saying "I don't give a damn if every man drowns and the ship sinks. I don't want to embarrass our allies (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:KE_fXYacgioJ:www.scribd.com/doc/2230472/U-S-S-Liberty+%22I+don%27t+give+a+damn+if+every+man+drow ns+and+the+ship+sinks%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk)"; it was Israel (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html).
It wasn't Muslims who were evacuated "apparently due to a specific security threat" in advance of the Amman, Jordan terror attacks (http://chiapas.indymedia.org/print.php3?article_id=116010)on November 9, 2005 (http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/000865.html) (9/11 by Israeli and European calendars), which included a blast at the Radisson hotel that was known to have emanated from a bomb hidden in a false ceiling (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3813), even though the official story held that it was really the work of "suicide bombers" (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1251) and therefore by some bizarre coincidence the ceiling bomb must have been placed there previously by someone else; it was Israelis who were evacuated in advance of these attacks (http://articles.latimes.com/2005/nov/10/world/fg-bombings10) in which there were no Jewish casualties, most of the dead were Jordanian Sunni Muslims, two Israeli casualties were both Arabs, and five Palestinians died (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Amman_bombings#Casualties) including Major-General Bashir Nafeh, the head of military intelligence in the West Bank (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article588616.ece).
It wasn't Muslims who were caught and arrested inside the Mexican Congress chamber on October 10, 2001 (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mex.html) in possession of guns, grenades, dynamite, detonators and wiring while posing as "press photographers"; it was Mossad agent Salvador Guersson Smecke and Israeli illegal immigrant Saur Ben Zvi (http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/Mossad/Mexico/151001.html) at the very time that Zionists would obtain maximum benefit from a false-flag terror attack that would mobilize support for the war on "Muslim terrorists (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osamatape2.html)" in Afghanistan that had been launched only three days previously (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29).
It wasn't Muslims who were convicted and jailed for six months in 2004 for fraudulently attempting to obtain a New Zealand passport in the name of a tetraplegic man (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/16/israel); it was Mossad agents Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel-New_Zealand_spy_scandal) who were seeking to create a false identity for Zev Barkan.
It wasn't Muslims who claimed to know the identity of "suicide hijackers" Abdulaziz al-Omari and Saeed al-Ghamdi when, since individuals with the exact same names and other personal details such as birth date, place and occupation subsequently turned up alive and well (http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/identities.html), the population of Saudi Arabia in 1975 was 7,180,000 (http://www.populstat.info/Asia/saudiarc.htm) and even given a high annual birth rate of 30 per 1,000 (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/idb/country/saportal.html) and ignoring infant mortality the daily birth rate was only 590 and so it is highly improbable that individuals would share the exact same name, birth date, place and occupation, al-Omari's passport had been stolen in 1995 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/1341391/Revealed-the-men-with-stolen-identities.html) when his apartment was burgled in Denver, Colorado (a state where Mossad agents have been active (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:MyHOyjXHdecJ:www.davidduke.com/general/in-political-exile-from-israel-since-2002_893.html+mossad+%22I+invited+myself+to+visit+ this+agent+in+Colorado%22+++%22fort+collins%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk)), and only utter cretins would steal the identities of people with a different appearance but having their exact same name, place, date of birth and occupation (http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/disinfo/deceptions/telegraph_stolenids.html), ergo those hypothetical "suicide hijackers" would have had entirely different names; it was the FBI who published a list claiming that the 9/11 perpetrators included Abdulaziz al-Omari and Saeed al-Ghamdi in addition to several others who had turned up alive and well (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html), and even though the FBI admitted that some hijackers may have used stolen identities and that there is "no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers (http://www.prisonplanet.com/fbi_denies_mix_up_of_911_terrorists.htm)," they denied having misidentified the alleged "suicide hijackers" and refused to change the names, photographs or backgrounds on their list (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:kc-KmdPyV5cJ:www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/092701hjpic.htm+fbi+hijackers+abdulaziz+saeed&hl=en&strip=1) - albeit obfuscating and trying to cover themselves by including multiple spellings and aliases.
It wasn't Muslims who were behind a failed coup in Turkey (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=77062&sectionid=351020204); it was crypto-Jew and Mossad agent pseudo-Rabbi Tuncay Guney (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:BuHJidMFRjYJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuncay_G%C3%BCney+guney+employer+%22New+York+Insti tute%22+%22post+office+box+addresses+in+New+Jersey %22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk), who fled to Canada (http://www.peoplefinder.com/results.php?ReportType=34&qf=Tuncay&qi=0&qk=10&qn=Guney) in 2004, and who in 2001 lived in New Jersey towns (http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4112.shtml) that were centers of activity for Mossad Urban Moving Systems operatives (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/urban.html?q=urban.html).
It wasn't Muslims who set up an "al Qaeda cell (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fakealqaeda.html)" in Palestine; it was the Israeli Mossad (http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949idf_qaeda.html).
It wasn't Muslims who had established a reputation for having the capability to stage false-flag terror attacks (http://www.public-action.com/911/sams.html), i.e., to target U.S. forces and make it look like the act of a third party, prior to 9/11; it was the Mossad.
It wasn't a Muslim who infiltrated the Pentagon and betrayed his country of birth (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/motherofallscandals.html) by selling classified documents to another country that were then traded to the USSR; it was convicted spy Jonathan Pollard (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-482060731.html) whose treachery (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/576453/posts) resulted in stolen nuclear secrets being passed on to the USSR with Israel as the paying intermediary (http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2005/05/free-pollard-why-not-free-aldrich-ames.html).
It wasn't Muslims who were running an exercise commencing at 9:00 a.m. on the morning of 9/11 involving a plane crashing into a tower; it was officials at the National Reconnaissance Office, Chantilly, VA (http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11/anniversary/wire_stories/0903_plane_exercise.htm).
It wasn't a Muslim who, in response to the question "Do the orders still stand (http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/03/minetas-testimony-confirmed.html)?" regarding the response - or more precisely, the lack of response (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911stand.html) - to an aircraft that was rapidly homing in on the Pentagon and ten miles out after both of the Twin Towers had already been hit by planes more than half an hour previously (http://www.911timeline.net/), whipped his neck around and replied "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"; it was Dick Cheney (http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/OrderRegardingAA77HittingPentagonOn911.pdf).
It wasn't a Muslim who was CEO of a company that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_S._Zakheim) made remote control "Flight Termination Systems" (http://www.sysplan.com/Radar/FTS) that could electronically hijack in-flight aircraft and steer them into targets by means of a "Command Transmitter System" (http://www.nogw.com/download/2005_zakheim_remote_cntrl.pdf); it was Rabbi Dov Zakheim.
It wasn't a Muslim who, well aware that a percentage of trillions of dollars is still hundreds of billions of dollars, took a position as Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001 (http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=2906) when it was already public knowledge that the Pentagon's accounting systems were in complete disarray (http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002hxm) with $6.9 trillion of "adjustments" having been required in an attempt to make the figures add up, and with no receipts for $2.3 trillion of these hard to track changes on non-integrated computer systems and antiquated paperwork that could be readily taken out by a missile or plane strike on the relevant auditing section at the Pentagon, and who subsequently delivered a commemorative sermon on the Pentagon lawn to hundreds of co-religionists from 40 countries six months after (http://www.15minutesmagazine.com/archives/Issue_35/events_0204-07.htm) such a terror strike did in fact occur killing at least 34 budget analysts / accountants / financial experts (http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-01/12-20-01/a02wn018.htm); it was Rabbi Dov Zakheim (http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/clues_to_the_murderers_behind_9-11.htm).
It wasn't a Muslim who was at a breakfast meeting with Donald Rumsfeld when the first plane hit the WTC (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=edmund_giambastiani_1), and was at the Army Navy Country Club "when the plane that hit the Pentagon came right over the top of the Army Navy Club and bounced down the hill and hit the side of the Pentagon (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/interviews/white.html)"; it was Thomas E. White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._White), who is linked to the Enron fraud (http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0608-28.htm), who participated in JINSA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Institute_for_National_Security_Affairs) trips to Israel, e.g. with his wife Susan in 1997 (http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/White_Thomas), and who was sworn in as Secretary of the Army (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0216-04.htm) on May 31, 2001 which is 27 days after (http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Dov_Zakheim) George W Bush appointed Rabbi Dov Zakheim as Undersecretary of Defense and Comptroller of the Pentagon (http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Zakheim_Dov), both White (http://www.ktroop.com/gen_white.htm) and Zakheim (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1927) having been placed by Bush at the Pentagon where more than $2 trillion of transactions (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml)had no receipts and Pentagon finances were vulnerable to a "terror attack" that would target the appropriate auditing section (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:2SyWJisPo7gJ:archive.southcoasttoda y.com/daily/12-01/12-20-01/a02wn018.htm+%22Most+of+those+killed+in+the+office ,+called+Resource+Services+Washington,+were+civili an+accountants,+bookkeepers+and+budget+analysts%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk).
It wasn't Muslims (http://www.iamanenglishman.com/page.php?page=7&iCategoryId=92&iParentId=87) who in 2000 co-authored a document (http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf) which called for a "new Pearl Harbor (http://oldamericancentury.org/pnac.htm)"; it was Roger Barnett, Alvin Bernstein, Stephen Cambone, Eliot Cohen, Devon Gaffney Cross, Thomas Donnelly, David Epstein, David Fautua, Dan Goure, Donald Kagan, Fred Kagan, Robert Kagan, Robert Killebrew, William Kristol, Mark Lagon, James Lasswell, I. Lewis Libby, Robert Martinage, Phil Meilinger, Mackubin Owens, Steve Rosen, Gary Schmitt, Abram Shulsky, Michael Vickers, Barry Watts, Paul Wolfowitz, and Rabbi Dov Zakheim.
It wasn't Muslims who had a motive for employing a "Flight Termination System (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:4HnB3svKbH4J:files.meetup.com/346488/Articles%20on%20Zakheim%20and%20Flight%20Terminati on%20System.doc+%22flight+termination+system%22+ai rcraft&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk)" to take control of EgyptAir Flight 990 (http://www.welfarestate.com/flight990) - a Boeing 767 - on October 31, 1999 (after a bizarre coincidence in which "air crash victims grief counselor (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/11/01/iran/main54062.shtml)" Ed McLaughlin of the Family Enterprise Institute was the only person (http://www.welfarestate.com/flight990/counslor.gif) to board the ill-fated plane in Los Angeles and get off at New York), send it plunging into the Atlantic 60 miles south of Nantucket killing all 217 on board, none of whom were Israelis but 33 of the casualties were Egyptian army officers (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/13830) including two Air Force brigadier generals and two army major generals, and promote the concept of "Muslim suicide pilots (http://www.emergency.com/1999/egyp990.htm)" to a gullible public; it was Jews who would have needed to conduct a trial run of electronically hijacking in-flight Boeing (http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/index.html) aircraft for their imminent false-flag terror operation that was to be blamed on "Muslim suicide pilots / hijackers", with the EgyptAir Flight 990 "inquiry" being overseen by Zionist Jew Bernard Loeb (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:uQf0ZeVoamEJ:www.theatlantic.com/doc/200111/langewiesche+%22Bernard+Loeb,+who+was+overseeing+t he+Flight+990+inquiry%E2%80%94was+Jewish+and+somet hing+of+a+Zionist%22&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk) who had Jewish translators (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:nqw1m8rjGkAJ:www.memritv.org/report/en/print303.htm+%22egyptair+flight+990%22+%22jewish+t ranslators%22&hl=en&strip=1) transcribe the cockpit recordings, and the FBI conducting a character assassination to smear (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:uQf0ZeVoamEJ:www.theatlantic.com/doc/200111/langewiesche+%22the+FBI+found+that+Batouti+had+a+r eputation+for+sexual+impropriety%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk) the alleged "suicidal" co-pilot.
It wasn't Muslims who wrote in 1998 of a "transforming event" rather like "Pearl Harbor" (http://www.hks.harvard.edu/visions/publication/terrorism.htm); it was John Deutsch (http://sajun.org/index.php/John_M._Deutch), Ashton Carter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashton_Carter) and Philip Zelikow (http://911truthpedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow).
It wasn't a Muslim (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:MoLaOBJZ-c0J:www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ArticleWikiZelik_28Jun2006.html+%22jewish+american +writers%22+zelikow&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk) who served as Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission (http://www.9-11commission.gov/about/bio_zelikow.htm), whose expertise and job entailed the creation and maintenance of public myths or "presumptions" (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17078.htm), and who confirmed that the Iraq war had been for Israel's benefit (http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23083); it was Philip Zelikow.
It wasn't Muslims who published a paper in 1996 entitled A Clean Break (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break): A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, which mentioned "removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq (http://www.amazon.com/review/RN3LG77TM2DJK/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt)" and introduced the concept of pre-emptive strikes for which some phony pretext (http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2008/02/clean-break.html) such as halting drug money or striking counterfeiting infrastructure or "weapons of mass destruction" could be devised that Americans would sympathise with; it was The Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies (http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm) (IASPS) of Jerusalem and Washington which, for new Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HG21Ak01.html), discussed how such a policy would benefit Israel (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/kwiatkowski.php?articleid=9306).
It wasn't a Muslim who, in a 1995 book, predicted that "if the West doesn’t wake up to the suicidal nature of militant Islam, the next thing you will see is militant Islam is bringing down the World Trade Center (http://www.netanyahu.org/glenbecinwit.html)"; it was Benjamin Netanyahu.
It wasn't Muslim security officials who, in 1991, inspected the garage of a Muslim shipping company in the World Trade Center and concluded that the WTC garage was vulnerable to a car bomb (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978029,00.html), two years before the WTC garage was in fact hit by a car bomb and the FBI were aware of the plot yet let it go ahead (http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/wtcbomb.html) killing six people and injuring more than a thousand, and ten years before the WTC was demolished one week after the very same shipping company had moved out of the WTC (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=zim-american_israeli_shipping_co.); it was Israeli security officials and an Israeli shipping company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zim_Integrated_Shipping_Services).
It wasn't Muslims who paid Ali al-Jarrah more than $300,000 for services rendered (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/world/middleeast/19lebanon.html?hp), i.e., posing as a "supporter" of the Palestinian cause while betraying his country to an enemy state, and who was a cousin of Ziad al-Jarrah who was alleged to be one of nineteen 9/11 "suicide hijackers"; it was Israel that paid this Mossad asset (http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/mossad_link_found_169.html).
It wasn't Muslims who 1) broadcast the pilot episode on March 4, 2001 of The Lone Gunmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen_%28TV_Series%29) TV series, an episode about a plot by a secret cabal within the US government to electronically hijack by remote control a Boeing (http://killtown.911review.org/lonegunmen.html) heading for Boston and divert it to crash into the World Trade Center (http://propagandamatrix.com/The_Lone_Gunmen_Realm_Pilot_Episode.htm) 2) said in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks that no one had ever conceived of aircraft being used by terrorists as missiles (http://hnn.us/comments/129953.html) to target buildings; it was 1) Fox TV, owned by Rupert Murdoch (http://www.muckety.com/K-Rupert-Murdoch/906.muckety), a long-time friend of Benjamin Netanyahu (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:YOfrooD0f0MJ:www.theatlantic.com/doc/200309/fallows/5+%22Benjamin+Netanyahu,+a+longtime+friend+of+Murd och%27s,+was+booked+on+a+Fox+News+Sunday+talk+show %22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) 2) National Security Adviser (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=26904) Condoleezza Rice (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/18/attack/main509488.shtml) / acting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Myers) Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=44621) / President George W. Bush (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1547863.stm) / Vice President Dick Cheney (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:7utUwcXFXm8J:georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2004/09/20040907-8.html+dick+cheney+%22There+wasn%E2%80%99t+any+way +then+we+could+have+anticipated+what+was+about+to+ happen,+of+course,%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk) / White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/16/attack/main509294.shtml).
It wasn't a Muslim who said he'd seen the (first) plane hit the (North) Tower (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bushlie.html) and reckoned it must have been "one terrible pilot" and "a horrible accident" before going into a classroom and subsequently being informed of the second impact (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/schoolvideo.html) when the first impact was not broadcast live on TV; it was George W. Bush (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/9-11bushbooker.html).
It wasn't Muslims who, on Tuesday, October 2 through Friday, October 5, 2001 (http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/4662.htm): 1) met with, and 2) received $3 million in gifts for "funds for victims" from Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifah Al-Thani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamad_bin_Khalifa), the Emir of Qatar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emirs_of_Qatar) who started the Al Jazeera channel in 1996 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera) with a $150 million grant, the channel which (http://www.worldpress.org/mideast/1201timesofindia.htm) broadcasts audios and videos purporting to be of "Osama bin Laden (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_newfake.html?q=osama_newfake.html)" aka Emmanuel Goldstein (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/goldstein.html); it was: 1) George W. Bush (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:n5xm4tJw_nsJ:www.presidency.ucsb.ed u/ws/index.php?pid=79088+%22President+Bush+will+welcome +Amir+Shaikh+Hamad+bin+Khalifa+Al+Thani+to+Washing ton+for+a+working+visit+on+October+4%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk), Dick Cheney (an "old friend") (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/terrorism/july-dec01/cheneyc_10-12.html) - Cheney also met the Emir on October 20, 2001 to discuss (http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/02/01/cheney.al.jazeera/index.html) the "Osama" interviews, Rudy Giuliani, Colin Powell (http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/10/03/ret.us.qatar), Paul Wolfowitz, and Richard Myers 2) Rudy Giuliani (http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-11-20/news/rudy-s-ties-to-a-terror-sheikh), Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Myers (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=44682).
It wasn't Muslims who fabricated a fairy stor (http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0905-09.htm)y about Pfc. Jessica Lynch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Lynch) being ambushed, stabbed, shot, bravely continuing to shoot Iraqis, being abused, raped (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35536), and held captive in a hospital by Iraqi guards, and later rescued by elite US forces; it was "unnamed US officials (http://www.journalism.org/node/223)" who lied (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/24/tillman.hearing/index.html), since in fact there was no "rescue", Lynch's gun had jammed (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-450509/U-S-soldier-hailed-bravery-Iraq-says-Pentagon-spin-doctors-up.html) with sand, she was being cared for by the Iraqis (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/17/iraq/main559052.shtml) after being injured in a car crash, she had no "bullet holes" or "knife wounds", the hospital was not "under guard", and doctors had even tried to return Lynch to US forces themselves.
It wasn't Muslims who conspired to invade (http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/iraq/blair-regime-change.htm) a defenseless nation by lying (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lieofthecentury.html) about "weapons of mass destruction (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313)" ("WMDs") when they had already made up their minds to invade for "regime change" (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8165.htm), resulting in excess Iraqi deaths estimated at 655,000 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html) to one million (http://gpolya.newsvine.com/_news/2007/03/19/622296-iraq-invasion-4th-anniversary-1-million-iraqi-excess-deaths), the displacement of more than four million (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19055852), the sacrifice of thousands of troops (http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx) and throwing away of $3 trillion (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html) to no avail save for enriching (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/09/60minutes/main1302378.shtml) a few war criminals (http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0129-26.htm) and profiteers (http://www.businesspundit.com/the-25-most-vicious-iraq-war-profiteers) to the tune of billions of dollars (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit) in this proxy war for Israel (http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/2007/10/dying-for-zion.html); it was George W. Bush (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2008/926/op3.htm) and Tony Blair (http://downingstreetmemo.com/docs/memotext.pdf).
It wasn't a Muslim who ordered aides to plan for striking Iraq barely five hours after the Pentagon was attacked (http://www.georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2009/04/5-hours-after-911-attacks-rumsfeld-said.html) on 9/11; it was Donald Rumsfeld (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml).
It wasn't Muslims who ordered 250 police to smash their way into a house in Forest Gate (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5040022.stm), London, in the middle of the night and arrest two brothers after shooting one of them in the shoulder, on the basis of intelligence said to be from a "reliable", single source regarding a conspiracy involving a "cyanide bomb", with the brothers being released without charge several days later before it was subsequently revealed that the source was a man with an IQ of 69 who was already in jail on a terror conviction (http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1090354.ece); it was Jewish supremacist lackeys MI5, Tony Blair and John Reid (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article671509.ece).
It isn't Muslim countries that have hundreds of nuclear warheads (http://www.military.com/news/article/March-2009/us-army-confirms-israeli-nukes.html) and submarines equipped with cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads with a 900-mile range (http://www.fas.org/news/israel/e20000619israelmakes.htm); it is Israel.
It isn't Muslims that have a powerful political lobby capable of extorting vast sums (http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html); it is Israel.
It wasn't a Muslim who boasted "We Muslims control America, and the Americans know it"; it was Ariel Sharon who boasted (http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_19916.shtml) "We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it".
It isn't Muslims who fake phony "hate crimes" against themselves, such as vandalising their own cars (http://www.aztlan.net/claremont_fake_hate_crime.htm) or graves (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/07/NZ_bigots_260704.html), or poisoning their dogs and defacing their houses with swastikas (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06001/630907.stm), or cutting their clothes and drawing swastikas on their stomachs (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3897303.stm); it is Jews.
It wasn't Muslims who took control of The New York Times in 1896 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Ochs), or who indeed own and control much of the mainstream media today (http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/shadow/jewishmedia.htm); it was and is Jews.
It isn't a Muslim country that crushes peace protesters to death with bulldozers (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/mar/18/usa.israel) or shoots them (http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/category/tom-hurndall/), or shells a picnicking family on a beach (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3263849,00.html) (and then refuses to own up (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/1521472/Shrapnel-clue-to-Gaza-beach-shelling.html)) when it wants to launch a war within the next three weeks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Summer_Rains), or warns civilians to flee (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5202142.stm) after blowing up bridges (http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0721-29.htm) so it can target them like sitting ducks (http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/08/02/lebano13902.htm), or shoots at Red Cross ambulances (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jul/25/syria.israel5) or UN observers (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article692851.ece) after promising they would be safe, or bombs a power station (http://www.tadamon.ca/post/961) so that more than ten thousand tonnes of crude oil leaks into the Mediterranean (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5233358.stm) as a "collective punishment (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jun/29/israel)"; it is Israel.
It isn't Muslims who routinely employ weapons such as phosphorus shells (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/777549.html) to inflict grave (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1055927.html) and horrific injuries on civilians (http://www.vtjp.org/background/gazaweapons.php), and who deliberately fire more than a million cluster bomblets of which 40% fail to detonate on impact (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/761781.html) and 90% are employed in the final three days before a ceasefire (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2007/01/200852512206640997.html) so they can "get them all in while the going is good"; it is Israel.
It isn't a Muslim nation that holds the world record for defying UN resolutions (http://www.mediamonitors.net/michaelsladah&suleimaniajlouni1.html); it is Israel (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/un.html).
It wasn't Muslims who ganged up on a handicapped Jew for hiking on his own land, beat him with clubs, dragged him along the ground, tied him to a power pole and continued to beat and kick him as Muslim soldiers did nothing to stop it and police merely advised the thugs to pour water on the victim's head to wash away the blood before journalists and photographers arrived; it was a gang of four cowardly, bigoted Jewish settlers (http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/08/23/jewish_klansmen_tie_palestinian_to_power) who beat up a handicapped Palestinian with impunity, basking in the knowledge that Jewish soldiers and police would not act impartially, and even returning a week later to torment the neighbors (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1007456.html), ransacking their home and destroying their few possessions.
It wasn't Muslim soldiers who beat up and killed a Jew with clubs and rifle butts and kicks to the head and then, after an 'investigation', concluded that the soldiers had "acted properly"; it was the Israeli "Defense" Forces who smashed three holes in a Palestinian teenager's skull (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/891862.html) killing him as he merely waited at a bus stop, continuing to beat him as he lay unconscious, then made up a story about him "pulling a knife" and suggested that he was "mentally unstable" in a case that is sadly all too typical (http://www.zimbio.com/The+Palestinian+Times/articles/134/Meanwhile+in+the+West+Bank) of violence perpetrated by racist, bigoted right-wing extremist Jewish supremacists (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:ZClDCDC74z0J:www.spearhead.com/0312-ej.html+%22Duke+exposes+a+deep+well+of+Jewish+supr emacist+hatred+against+Gentiles%22&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk) upon those whom they perceive as "animals in human form (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:r_-SuTsf12cJ:wake-up-america.net/from_the_jewish_holy_book__the_t.htm+%22animals+in +human+form%22+%22non-Jew%22&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk)".
It wasn't Muslims who created a global organization named the "Anti Defamation League" in order to defend Muslim criminals by playing the race card and accusing their pursuers of being "racists" and "anti-Semites (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=351)" who were guilty of "hate crimes (http://100777.com/node/1388)"; it was Jews who set up the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith in response to the lynching of Leo Frank (http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/ADL/Leo_Frank/Martin.html), president of the Atlanta chapter of the B'nai B'rith Jewish secret society who had been convicted of murdering 13-year-old Mary Phagan who worked at Frank's pencil factory, with the lynching of Frank being in response to the commuting of his death sentence to life imprisonment after organized Jewry had tried to cast doubt on Frank's conviction by shifting the blame to a black man even though ritual murder (http://www.bloodpassover.com/index1.htm) is a known Jewish tradition (http://www.heretical.com/miscella/jrm.html), the ADL being used thereafter to denounce anti-criminals as "anti-Semites (http://reasonradionetwork.com/?p=446)" whenever the criminals happened to be Jews (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1237727546890).
It isn't Muslims who, for political and financial gain, demolished the World Trade Center (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/index.html) with nano-thermite (http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM) and crashed remote-controlled planes (http://100777.com/node/1836) into it in order to set up a hoax about "Jewish kamikaze pilots" and then attempt to throw researchers off the scent by pretending to "investigate" the demolitions whilst 'accidentally' plumping for the wrong hypothesis (e.g. H-bombs rather than thermite) (http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf), and then stubbornly refuse to change to a hypothesis that is in accordance with the evidence (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/theories/thermite.html); it is Jews (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=Callaway&as_epq=A+Large+Selection+of+Sephardic+Jewish+Surna mes&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images) who set up a hoax about "Muslim kamikaze pilots (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html)" and have their deliberately misleading 'work (http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/ward.htm)' about the demolitions hosted at sites that are owned (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=thepriceofliberty.org) and edited (http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/editor.htm) by Jews (http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.religious.jewish.sephardic/175/mb.ashx).
It wasn't Muslims who practised pseudo-science by refusing to look for Iron Blue at Auschwitz (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:SosEUJ11dWAJ:www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/8.html+%22tested+their+samples+with+analytical+met hods+that+were+unable+to+detect+stable+iron+cyanid e+compounds%22&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk) or explosives at the World Trade Center (http://www.ae911truth.org/info/51), in order that their 'investigation' would come up with the required financially and politically motivated result; it was Jan Markiewicz, Wojciech Gubala, and Jerzy Labedz of the Jan Sehn Institute at Krakow (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:TwdJXlfIUbYJ:www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/Green.html+%22By+using+their+method,+the+Poles+fou nd+out+that+in+both+the+delousing+chambers+and+the +alleged+homicidal+gas+chambers+comparable+cyanide +residues+can+be+found%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) (Auschwitz fraud), and "scientists" and "engineers" (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:VqvTaCDtfGIJ:wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs.htm+wtc+%22nist+scientists+and+engineers%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) at NIST (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:vi6kRyUdId0J:911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosives_evidence_timeline.html+%22ABEL:+But+how +can+you+know+there%E2%80%99s+no+evidence+if+you+d on%E2%80%99t+look+for+it+first?%22&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk) (WTC fraud).
It wasn't Muslims who took over the "investigation" of the World Trade Center collapses when FEMA were making a hash of (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/WTC_apndxC.htm) the cover up, mixed up Figures 11-51 and 11-52 (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=6195810&postcount=536) in NCSTAR1-9Vol2 on their WTC7 report which was published two days after the mysterious death of eyewitness Barry Jennings (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=barry_jennings_1) whose testimony of explosions (http://blip.tv/file/1064938) in WTC7 before either Tower had collapsed - note he specifically says (4:43) "I was trapped in there when both buildings came down (http://morris108.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/video-barry-jennings-was-the-most-outspoken-witness-and-described-explosions-before-the-twin-towers-collapsed-in-wtc-7-he-died-a-month-ago-age-53)" - blew their politically motivated assumptions and conclusions apart, failed to spot their mistake in their accompanying description, assumed unrealistically high gas temperatures (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=6228516&postcount=572) in order to derive their required unrealistically high steel temperatures, published a preposterous hypothesis of a "thermal-expansion (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/NISTThermalExpan1.png)"-based collapse with the logical conclusion that the 180 kip shear capacity of four bolts in a seated connection (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/FourBolts180kip.png) would be exceeded if the steel heated up from 20 C to 32 C (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/NIST32CThermExp.png) making the force to completely resist the thermal expansion 191 kip (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/NISTThermalExpan2.png), irrespective of the fact that no steel-framed high-rises had ever collapsed due to "fires" or "impacts" apart from the three that allegedly did so on 9/11, claimed inward bowing of the WTC1 perimeter columns between floors 94 to 100 peaking at 55 inches (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bowing+of+perimeter+columns%22+%22maxi mum+=+55+inches%22&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&filter=0) at column 316 on the 96th floor which could not be reconciled with the fact that the columns' moment of inertia (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/451SecMomIner1.png) or second moment of area was at least 342 ins^4 (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/342SecMomIner1.png) along the minor axis (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/342SecMomIner2.png) and a maximum deflection of 55 inches given fixed - fixed boundary conditions and a distributed load would have required the failure within 102 minutes of at least ten (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/poseidon888/TenFloorsToFail.png) consecutive floors, many of which did not have any fireproofing 'dislodged' by a plane and did not even experience substantial fires; it was NIST, whose top scientists and engineers have extensive knowledge of nano-thermites (http://911review.com/articles/ryan/nist_thermite_connection.html), but said they had found "no evidence" of explosives at the WTC and later admitted that they had not bothered to look for any (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:PbT8OpUXWFUJ:www.hartfordadvocate.c om/article.cfm?aid=5546+%22But+how+can+you+know+there %E2%80%99s+no+evidence+if+you+don%E2%80%99t+look+f or+it+first?%22+%22Theories+of+9/11%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk). The 9/11 perpetrators had to ensure those in charge of the "investigation" were aware of that which they must not find.
It wasn't a Muslim who announced on Sunday September 16, 2001 that a "hijacker's passport" (allegedly that of Satam al Suqami) had been found "several blocks from the ruins of the World Trade Center (http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/gen.america.under.attack/index.html)", with other reports asserting that the passport was found "in the vicinity of Vesey Street (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/17/inv.investigation.terrorism)"; it was former Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik who was indicted November 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Kerik) on multiple counts including lying, fraud and conspiracy, which is consistent with the fact that the laws of aerodynamics dictate that the passport should have been found in the vicinity of Liberty Street (http://www.takeourworldback.com/911/911passport.htm), the scriptwriter forgot that Suqami was supposed to be on Flight AA11 approaching from the north, and, of several attempts made by the authorities to guess where the passport should have been found, not one of them was correct!
It wasn't Muslims who had JFK killed; it was Jews (http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/mossadandtheassassination.htm).
It wasn't Muslims who stole elections by exploiting electronic voting machines that biased the results such that the odds for several swing states to swing as much as they did from the exit polls was 250 million to one against (http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/111704DeHart/111704dehart.html); it was George W. Bush.
It isn't Muslims who exhibit traits of supremacist megalomaniacs by referring to their enemies as "grasshoppers", "beasts", "crocodiles" and "cockroaches" (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hatespeech.html); it is Jews (http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm).
It wasn't a Muslim who set up a Ponzi scheme that netted $50 billion (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5331997.ece); it was a Jew (http://exposingbiasnews.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/is-bernard-madoff-jewish).
It wasn't Muslims (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-457868/The-came-dream-10cc-best-band-world.html) who made a record about doing "The Wall Street Shuffle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall_Street_Shuffle)" and whose other songs included scatological references (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=Godley+Creme&as_epq=Howard+Johnson+is+moving+his+bowels&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images); it was Jews.
It isn't Muslims who rule the world by proxy and get others to fight and die for them (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100234,00.html) in wars; it is Jews, whose modus operandi is to select rich host populations that will let them in (http://us.altermedia.info/news-of-interest-to-white-people/the-jewish-role-in-destroying-america_3314.html), pose as their "ally" whilst draining them (http://www.wrmea.com/archives/may03/0305032.html) of hard-earned wealth, employ deception (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=13645) to trick the hosts into fighting (http://www.scribd.com/doc/15097551/Masters-of-Deception) poorer nations, and reap the spoils of war (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/93169/neocon_war_architect_to_reap_huge_profits_from_ira q%27s_oil) such as Afghan opium (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=6289165&postcount=23) trafficking, missing Pentagon funds (http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1622315920071017), looting of oil-for-food funds (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit), etc, along with other opportunistic scams such as the $550 billion electronic run on the banks (http://boingboing.net/2009/02/09/rep-kanjorski-550-bi.html). Note: some reports incorrectly state Thursday September "15", 2008 for the latter; it should of course be September 11, the Thursday prior to September 15.
It isn't Muslims who have been expelled from countries on numerous occasions (http://www.sunray22b.net/expulsions.htm), it is Jews who keep getting kicked out (http://www.aztlan.net/jewexpulsions.htm) as soon as the host gets wise to the fact that Jews' only loyalty is to their own tribe (http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html), rather than the host nation to whom Jews pose as an "ally".
It wasn't Muslims who started a World War in 1914 in the hope that they could successfully launch a hoax about "six million (http://codoh.com/incon/incrucifix.html)" of their number being killed in order to obtain their own country (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/1874459.stm) and net a substantial fraction of global wealth in "reparations", failed, but also exploited the opportunity to annex and loot Russia (http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html) and indulge in horrific blood-letting and oppression (http://www.russians.org/communist.html) as a means of settling old scores with the Rus who had chased them westwards from former Khazaria (http://econc10.bu.edu/economic_systems/NatIdentity/FSU/Caucasus/khazaria.htm); it was Khazar (fake) 'Jews' (http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm).
It wasn't Muslims who blew up Francois Duprat's car killing him and maiming his wife (http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/duprat.html), beat up Dr. Robert Faurisson (http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres4/presenteRF.pdf) at least ten times (http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/02/16/who-are-you-robert-faurisson) in which his jaw was broken / teeth knocked out / nearly killed (http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/8909faur.html) several times / hospitalized for weeks and was persecuted in legal battles and had his home raided by police (http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=807), tried to kill Ernst Zundel on at least three occasions in arson (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:DRNirFOhVjAJ:www.codoh.com/f451.html+%22The+charred+remains+of+books+and+the+ ceiling+of+Ernst+Z%C3%BCndel%27s+home+and+headquar ters+in+1995.%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) and pipe bomb (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:tPG1DLeWotgJ:www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//z/zundel.ernst/press/american-dissident-voices+%22it+was+a+very+powerful+pipe+bomb%22+%22e rnst+zundel%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk) attacks and had him (http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres6/Zundelmannheim1.pdf) and Germar Rudolf (http://www.germarrudolf.com/) deported (http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/0511rudolf.html) to Germany and jailed (http://www.nordbruch.org/fremdefeder/aTobenRudolf.html) for years (http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/zundel.html), beat Jurgen Rieger unconscious and blew up his car (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article457884.ece), beat up David Cole and threatened to kill him and his family (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:W03kD_VU3sgJ:www.amazon.com/David-Cole-Interviews-Franciszek-Piper/dp/B000L3A17I+%22Cole+was+later+severely+beaten+durin g+a+speech%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk), persecuted and beat (http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/burg.html) Joseph Burg (http://www.nogw.com/download/_07_holo_testimony_burg.pdf), attacked Frank Walus seven times (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:69CV7FrcgiIJ:library.flawlesslogic. com/simon_w.htm+acid+%22frank+walus%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk) and nearly killed him in an acid attack, forced Ivan Lagace to resign from his job as a crematory expert (http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/lagace.html) after endless threats from thugs claiming to be from the Jewish Defense League (http://www.ihr.org/books/ztn.html), perpetrated numerous terrorist attacks in France (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n2p-2_Faurisson.html) including sulfuric acid sprayed into faces / attacks with iron bars / baseball bats / gas sprayed / excrement strewn around, had historian David Irving spend 400 days in jail (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Austria/arrest_2005/index.html) before being released on Appeal from a three year sentence which was for two speeches and a newspaper interview he gave 16 years earlier (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1537555/Holocaust-denier-Irving-is-freed-from-jail-early.html), had Dr. Frederick Toben jailed in Germany for ten months for using his Australian website (http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s65901.htm) to express his views, and who had dozens more jailed (http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/verbeke.html), fined (http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/17/2/Weber14.html), and financially ruined by character assassination (http://www.revisionists.com/revisionists/leuchter.html) and legal battles (http://members.cruzio.com/%7Equanta/irving1.htm); it was Jews attempting to prop up their idiosyncratic brand of "truth" (http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html) which profited them handsomely for decades (http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/content.php?pg=3).
It wasn't Muslims who fabricated a hoax about "six million" of their people being "murdered" (http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/holohoax.htm) involving an evidence-free conspiracy theory (http://www.codoh.com/newrevoices/nrillusion.html) about a plot to exterminate them in "gas chambers (http://www.germarrudolf.com/work/trr/8.html)" which netted them - by way of a huge, illegitimate land grab (http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Statements/062504Vienna.cfm) - their own sovereign state, colossal profits in "reparations (http://www.zundelsite.org/reparations/index.html)", hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign "aid" and "loan guarantees" (http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html) and waiving / subsidizing of interest payments (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost_of_israel.html), etc, and now serves as their "sword and shield" (http://www.codoh.com/viewpoints/vpfauramiri.html) to practice apartheid (http://www.ifamericansknew.com/) and kill (http://www.phrmg.org/aqsa/fatalities_list.htm) and oppress (http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Ethepress/read.php?id=72) their enemies with impunity; it was Jews (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:W_E8Mz0HhO0J:www.ihr.org/leaflets/soap.shtml+%22Rabbi+Stephen+S.+Wise%22+%22Jewish+c orpses+were+being+processed+into+such+war-vital+commodities+as+soap,+fats+and+fertilizer%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk).
It wasn't Muslims who were caught red-handed forging fake "smoke" onto wartime photographs of Auschwitz (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/fake/SWCsmokeFake.html); it was the Simon Wiesenthal Center (http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/wiesenthal.htm), whose suitability as guardians of truth (http://bradleysmithsblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/deborah-lipstadts-participation-in.html) is comparable to a choice of Count Dracula as a maintainer of blood banks.
It isn't Muslim (http://www.australiafreepress.org/articles/Faurisson_Iran_Conference.htm) mathematics that holds that the sum of a set of variables a + b + c + d + e... remains constant, e.g. at "six million (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:lcYH65QaBjUJ:www.vho.org/GB/Books/tfh/1.html+sacrosanct+%22six+million%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk)", when several variables fluctuate downwards by, say, nearly three million (http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/17/world/poland-agrees-to-change-auschwitz-tablets.html?sec=&spon=&emc=eta1) and about half of that (http://kentuckyannatruenews.blogspot.com/2008/11/holocaust-facts.html), in the absence of any corresponding upwards revision; it is financially (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:EzDVio5_dIMJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germ any+%22The+reparations+would+become+a+decisive+par t+of+Israel%27s+income%22+87.5%+of+state+income&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) and politically motivated (http://www.germarrudolf.com/work) Jewish "mathematics (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Ku_tYfD3YXQJ:www.thetruthseeker.co. uk/print.asp?ID=10044+%22the+law+of+Jewish+mathematic s+is+that+all+equations,+addition,+subtraction,+mu ltiplication+and+division+always+end+up+with+six+m illion+as+the+answer%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk)".
It isn't Muslim physics and chemistry that holds that corpses may be rapidly and economically cremated (http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndcrema.html) with between a pound and a kilogram of coke per body (http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/holohoax.htm#cokeconsumption) when the firebricks of the cremation ovens are not even replaced after some 20,000 cremations (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:QZXIeCsH0msJ:www.vho.org/GB/Books/anf/Mattogno.html+%22even+supposing+that+the+ovens+of+ Auschwitz-Birkenau+were+used+to+the+extreme+limit+of+3,000+c remations+per+chamber%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) (which is rather like expecting a Trabant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDR_jokes#The_Trabant_.28an_East_German_Car.29) to be capable of doing 100,000 miles non-stop at 100 mph on 100 gallons of gasoline and a couple of cans of motor oil); it is politically (http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/FaurisArch/RF051109.html) and financially motivated (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:FrsOEq6YI4oJ:www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312579,00.html+%22Germany+has+paid+an+estim ated+$25+billion+in+reparations+to+Israeli+Holocau st+survivors%22&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk) Jewish "physics (http://www.vho.org/tr/2004/4/Rudolf449-452.html)" and Jewish "chemistry (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:LAb7uiBWibkJ:www.codoh.com/viewpoints/vppggaot.html+%22The+story+of+the+Diesel+motor+was +clearly+invented+by+non-technical+laymen%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk)".
It wasn't Muslims - or even the "Russian police (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:LVlucP0n3nQJ:www.protocolz.com/jtruth/interjew/ij_ch5.shtml+%22the+internal+evidence+makes+it+cle ar+that+the+protocols+were+not+written+by+a+russia n%22&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk)" - who behave as if they authored The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm); it is International Jewry (http://www.codoh.com/zionweb/zionpgint.html), and if it hisses like a snake and rattles (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:L5nsYkvUBDgJ:pelotes.jea.com/vensnake.htm+%22venomous+snakes%22+%22To+hear+ratt le+sound,+click+the+speaker%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk) like a rattlesnake, it isn't exactly benign (http://100777.com/protocols).
It is not the "international Muslim" who has much to answer for; it is the international Jew (http://www.protocolz.com/jtruth/interjew).
The mainstream media’s conspicuous silence over the collapse (http://mwcnews.net/content/view/29921/42) of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory (http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/10/064.html) has clearly exposed them as "the dogs that didn’t bark".
This was inspired by an excellent piece from back in November 2003: It Wasn't Arabs by Edgar J. Steele
http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/arabs.htm (http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/arabs.htm)
Take Our World Back! (http://www.takeourworldback.com/) front page / NEW! The 9/11 Perpetrators Timeline (http://www.takeourworldback.com/911perpstimeline.htm) / 9/11 For Reality Deniers (http://www.takeourworldback.com/911realitydeniers.htm)

Mark Stapleton
10-14-2009, 02:53 AM
It's pretty damning, and mostly true, although I didn't get close to looking at all the links in that piece, Ed.

Zionist control of the mainstream media has allowed much of this to keep happening. Zionism is evil, pure and simple. When it comes to planned deception and murder, and deliberately setting false trails in order to place the blame elsewhere, Muslim extremists are children compared to Zionists.

Peter Lemkin
10-14-2009, 07:19 AM
It wasn't 'Jews' either and that piece, while correct on the who didn't do things and some of the offending parties is making an anti-Jewish diatribe, IMO - confusing the few leading right-wing Zionists with the Jewish People in and out of Israel and forgetting that many right-wing Christians and some Muslims are as much to blame for the general World situation, and perhaps 911, as anyone. While there is much correct in the article, the slant is to me offensive. Politics and power, not religion [or lack of same], are more often the culprit.

Magda Hassan
10-14-2009, 07:54 AM
There is a lot of good stuff in here but a lot of it, especially at the end, is racially based. While zionism is an odious and racist ideology and needs to always be called for what it is however sometimes the people criticising zionism are equally concerned about the purity of their blood and the superiority of their god and their race. I am sure nepotism has and does exists with in other racist groups besides zionists. Certainly there are networks of connected individuals with similar outlooks and beliefs who work together. Criminals will work with their networks and money speaks all languages. Christians and Muslims and atheists all worked together on this. Criminals all. That's what they have in common. Just like the 'Germans' are not alone in the blame for the murder of millions of European Jews. There were Ukrainians, Latvians, Poles and Austrians and French and others. Everyone of them involved was a criminal. Not all of them were involved though by any means.

Nevertheless, some very hard evidence there and good to see it all together like that.

Mark Stapleton
10-14-2009, 02:20 PM
It wasn't 'Jews' either and that piece, while correct on the who didn't do things and some of the offending parties is making an anti-Jewish diatribe, IMO - confusing the few leading right-wing Zionists with the Jewish People in and out of Israel and forgetting that many right-wing Christians and some Muslims are as much to blame for the general World situation, and perhaps 911, as anyone. While there is much correct in the article, the slant is to me offensive. Politics and power, not religion [or lack of same], are more often the culprit.

It's regrettable you were offended, Peter. It seems however that most of the claims about international Jewry ring true.

It will only become worse for you as more info about Zionists and their antics slowly becomes common knowledge.

Ed Jewett
10-14-2009, 02:54 PM
Since it was me who posted the piece, I'll answer...

Allegations of racial insensitivity can go fly a kite when it comes to the treasonous misappropriation of my entire country and its democratic process, to say nothing of the wars and the deaths ...

Sorry, but I ain't buyin' the anti-Semite allegation anymore and when it is offered up at me I'm gonna say “yessir, until I see American Jews taking the lead standing down Israel and AIPAC and Goldman Sachs, then guess what?, I'm gonna lump y'all in the same bag.” At the moment -- and I think this was said above in different terms --, neither I nor America has the luxury of being superbly pristine in its discernment.

I don't cotton to the murder of 3,000 people for anything, any reason, any country.

I don’t want or need to see American children being economically conscripted to fight Israel’s enemies. It has a capable army, air force, and all those nukes…

So when Americans of all faiths start prosecuting criminals, war criminals, and the murderers of 9/11 without regard to their ethnicity or religion, then maybe I’ll have the luxury of discernment.

Until then, I see an entire country and its political process that has been intimidated, spied on, parasitized, and hijacked.


I wouldn't be the first American to say "I want my country back".

Mark Stapleton
10-14-2009, 10:48 PM
Since it was me who posted the piece, I'll answer...

Allegations of racial insensitivity can go fly a kite when it comes to the treasonous misappropriation of my entire country and its democratic process, to say nothing of the wars and the deaths ...

Sorry, but I ain't buyin' the anti-Semite allegation anymore and when it is offered up at me I'm gonna say “yessir, until I see American Jews taking the lead standing down Israel and AIPAC and Goldman Sachs, then guess what?, I'm gonna lump y'all in the same bag.” At the moment -- and I think this was said above in different terms --, neither I nor America has the luxury of being superbly pristine in its discernment.

I don't cotton to the murder of 3,000 people for anything, any reason, any country.

I don’t want or need to see American children being economically conscripted to fight Israel’s enemies. It has a capable army, air force, and all those nukes…

So when Americans of all faiths start prosecuting criminals, war criminals, and the murderers of 9/11 without regard to their ethnicity or religion, then maybe I’ll have the luxury of discernment.

Until then, I see an entire country and its political process that has been intimidated, spied on, parasitized, and hijacked.


I wouldn't be the first American to say "I want my country back".

Yeah, I agree. Those who think it offensive to speak the plain truth can go jump.

Peter Lemkin
10-15-2009, 05:15 AM
I said the article contained much important and factual information [and which I often post about myself], however, it fails to make a distinction between Jews and right-wing imperialist Zionists - conflating them into one. [I happen to be very proudly of 100% Jewish heritage, though an atheist, and know that many Jews are very progressive (now and throughout history), against the many policies of right-wing Zionism, right-wing Jews and others]. [Jews are perhaps the only religious group who's members can be atheists and still feel and be regarded as Jewish.]

The article also fails to correctly add to the blame the many right-wing Christians or right-wing Muslims (and others) who are AS complicit along with the right-wing Jews; leading me to comment and believe the author of the piece is anti-Jewish. I could easily begin to dislike [or hate] Christians for their backing of the far-right in America, but I do not, as I have met many Christians who as opposed to the policies and direction those other Christians have taken America and the World. The fact that much of the who did not do something and even [partially] the who did is correct does not let the author off the hook for conflating a small group of right-wing imperialists and trouble-makers against peace and democracy, etc. who might be Jewish with all Jews. To do the same with Muslims is a favorite game now in America and, as I said, one could make the same mistake [easily] against Christians. There are progressive and regressives in all major religious camps and I felt it needed pointing out. If one is going to post such, a disclaimer, I feel, is needed. If one wanted to numerically point to which regressive group within which religion has caused the most harm in recent history it would NOT be the Jews nor the Muslims nor Janes nor Hindus [but the Christians in fact], but I digress.... The point is bad people of any and all faiths or no faith are guilty and there are those in all faiths [not all cults] who are decent and against those others; and a proper perspective is important or one makes scapegoats of all those who are members of that religion. Hitler would have had me killed, though I am an atheist. That piece suffers from the same blindness, no matter how much of it is correct - the tone is not, and the hidden message as evil and wrong. Sorry. It needed being said. One of its hidden messages was that Jews were responsible for much of the problems in the world today. Not so. Among Jews you will find Neaderthal types and the most progressive fighters for Peace and Justice. Ditto Muslims and Christians, as well as other religions and atheists. Same for racially prejudicial pieces. Etc.

Ed Jewett
10-15-2009, 07:55 AM
To Peter Lemkin (and everyone else):

I personally and certainly mean no offense to you, or to any specific person who may happen to be Jewish. I apologize to any who may have been offended. There is a lot for me to learn in terms of the experience of "Jewishness". (People often assume I am Jewish because of my name, but that name derives from the French "jouet" and Henri du Juwatt, and thence into Great Britain, and thence to New England.)

Peter's comments about the hand-in-glove involvement by fundamentalist Christians, right-wingers and other "regressives" is well-taken, and I should have "stipulated" to that earlier or been quick enough to have built it into an introductory statement.

I am speaking -- as is probably obvious-- out of anger and frustration.

Forgive me my trespasses...

What I am trying to get at simply is that Zionism, if that is the proper distinction, is at the root of much of that which has happened to my country -- and thence to the rest of the world by my country -- and it hasn't been a pretty sight, and it is threatening to my country's political balance, and it poses a continued war threat, possibly nuclear. And, over here, we can't get too many people to even acknowledge that there is a problem, let alone discuss it, or address it. Furthermore, it is very obvious that there is a significant number of people who will do whatever they can to distract, disorient and derail (or worse) any attempt to call attention to the matter.

All here at DPF are well-read, astute, discerning ... and I don't mean to preach. It is simply that, inside America as elsewhere, a pre-emptive argument of anti-Semitism has made any attempt to identify or address the issue exceedingly difficult.

There is much I could call on -- given some time -- that would illuminate my POV ... there's lots of information 'out there' about Israeli/Zionist involvement in 9/11, the history of Israeli espionage, the involvement of Jewish money in media, the role of Zionism in the history of the Wall Street/CIA nexus, the brutality of Israeli warfare upon Palestine, the fuzzy history of the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, the very effective use of propaganda and disinformation techniques run from inside Israel, the use of sayanim, the presence of the son of a noted Zionist terrorist as White House Chief of Staff, etc. My focus is not on the Jewishness per se -- I have often said I'd be equally upset if what has happened had been done by or for the principality of Andorra.

A personal story: As a key staffer for a small multi-state NGO association whose member heath centers were Federally funded, I was involved in the coordination of a lobbying visit by center directors and Board members to educate Congress on the facts as we saw them. We had to pull teeth to get appointments with aides for the small handfuls of volunteers we scraped together to make the trip. We were able to give token gifts as remembrances, but were disallowed from making much of a political statement through campaign contributions by the laws and our limited numbers. When we got there, we were met outside the Capitol office buildings by convoys of buses of people from a Jewish background lobbying for I don't know what. They have a right to lobby, but their power is out of all proportion to their numbers. This is addressed in the forthcoming article.

Here is a short video which features former CIA analyst Ray McGovern and former State Department intelligence staffer Thielmann talking about the potential causes of armed conflict in Iran.

Listen to what they have to say:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/46970

Another article will follow.

Ed Jewett
10-15-2009, 08:07 AM
Zionism: The Dead End of the Oppressor

Review of Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews
by Kim Petersen / October 13th, 2009


Zionism is the ideology that dispossessed the Palestinians of their traditional territory. It is the ideology that nuclearized the Middle East. It is the ideology whose lobby gained inordinate sway over the world superpower through manipulating the US electoral process (former BBC and ITN correspondent Alan Hart says Jewish Americans account for three percent or less of the US population but nearly 50 percent of campaign funds; result: Americans have a choice between two pro-Zionist parties). It is the ideology that foments instability and wars in the Middle East. Perhaps, most importantly, Zionism is an ideology that attacks the heart and soul of justice and humanity. It is an attack that, on some level, affects all people. That is why Zionism must be met head on: to institute genuine justice and restore the humanity of all peoples.
Hart has the credentials to tackle the subject of Zionism (specifically, political Zionism: that a certain collection of non-native people has a, purportedly, God-given right to a particular piece of real estate that overrides the rights of Indigenous Palestinians) having worked for over three decades covering history unfolding in the Middle East. Much of his experience is first hand. The False Messiah (http://www.claritypress.com/Hart-I.html) is volume one of, what is planned to be, a three or four volume series Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews.
http://dissidentvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Hart-Icoverfinal.jpg
(http://www.claritypress.com/Hart-I.html)
Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews
Volume One: The False Messiah (http://www.claritypress.com/Hart-I.html)
By Alan Hart
Paperback: 337 pages
Publisher: Clarity Press (2009)
ISBN-10: 0932863647
ISBN-13: 9780932863645
Disseminating information that challenges the immensely influential Zionist bloc is difficult. Hart wrote, “… all in the UK were too frightened to publish this book out of fear of offending Zionism too much and being falsely accused of promoting anti-Semitism.” Here Hart exposes the absurd inversion of morality: Zionists accuse defenders of Palestinian human rights as being racist against the abuser of Palestinian human rights!
Hart identifies it as a smear tactic and a phony one since Arabs are Semites.
That the morality of Zionism is challengeable was keenly illustrated by an exchange between Hart and erstwhile Israeli prime minister Golda Meir. Hart queried Meir on-air: “You are saying that if ever Israel was in danger of being defeated on the battlefield, it would be prepared to take the region and even the whole world down with it?”
Meir’s prompt response: “Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.” [This was echoed later by Martin von Creveld, Israeli military strategist whose works are embedded into American military leadership circles...]

How do Zionists get away with crimes against humanity? Hart points to the suffering Zionists experienced in the WWII Holocaust. To this an obvious question arises: does victimization give the victims the right to victimize another people?
Paulo Freire in his opus Pedagogy of the Oppressed warned that oppression creates a recycling dynamic that dehumanizes not only the oppressed people but also the oppressor. Hart touches on this dynamic.
Zionism and Judaism
Hart has to cover a lot of ground.
He points out that Zionism is not Judaism. Hart describes Zionism as “brutal and cruel , driven by self-righteousness of an extraordinary kind, without regard for international law and human rights conventions” which “makes a mockery of the moral values and ethical values of Judaism.”
Hart does not delve deeply into these moral and ethical values of Judaism, but he leaves this reader with the impression that Judaism is an principled faith. However, the laws and morality underlying many religions are often interpreted variously. The late Israel Shahak, a chemistry professor and social justice activist, in his book Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years rued that classical Judaism had been subverted toward profit and Jewish supremacism. I submit that much as no people should be seen as a monolith neither should a religion be regarded as a monolith.
[B]The Legitimacy of a Jewish Claim to the Holy Land
Hart reasons that there is no legitimacy to Israel’s claim to a “right to exist.” Moreover, the Jewish claim to the Holy Land does not hold up under scrutiny.
The bloodlines of the majority of Israeli Jews do not tie them with the Holy Land. Ashkenazim stem from eastern and central Europe and are converts to Judaism. Hart cites the work of Joseph Reinach, Alfred Lilienthal, Arthur Koestler, and Shlomo Sand in outlining this case. The refutation of Jewishness as an ethnicity is important because, quoting Sand, “…it encourages a segregation that separates Jews from non-Jews” that allows Zionists to claim Israel as a Jewish state.
Furthermore, writes Hart, the Mizrahim (Semitic Jews indigenous to the Middle East) were strongly opposed to Zionism.
Hart focuses on two different sets of Jews: Haskala Jews who sought to make the place they lived their home and Zionist Jews who strive to separate Jews and Gentiles. Haskala Jews see themselves threatened by a backlash to crimes committed by Zionist Jews.
Early Zionism
Hart paints a picture of early Zionist history and the roles of early Zionist figures such as Zionism’s “founding father,” Theodr Herzl, key lobbyist, Chaim Weizmann, and the financier of Zionism, Lionel de Rothschild.
Hart details the collaboration of Britain with the Zionists from Arthur Balfour whose letter provided a pretext to dispossess Arabs. The chicanery was such that Britain reneged on its promise to recognize the sovereignty of its WWI Arab allies. Britain, writes Hart, laid the foundations for a Zionist takeover: “Without the British presence Zionism could not have entrenched itself in Palestine. On their own the Palestinians could have pushed the Zionists out.”
Britain went so far as to declare war on the Palestinians and assassinate Palestinian leaders.
All along the way, Zionist Jews were opposed by Haskala Jews who, as history shows, always lost out. After WWII, the Holocaust card was effective at backing down Haskala Jews.
Yet, Zionism has also flourished among Jews living abroad. Citing humanist Lilienthal: the migrating Jews carried a “nation complex” within them. According to Hart, this “made many of them susceptible to Zionism’s nationalist propaganda.”
Later, Zionists such as Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and Vladimir Jabotinsky would terrorize the British out of Mandate Palestine. Hart sources Ralph Schoenman on the Koening Memorandum that made transparent the Zionists’s plans for terrorism against Palestinians: “We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
Israel today, Hart notes, defines legitimate Palestinian resistance as terrorism. The author holds, “… all peoples have the right to use all means including violence to resist occupation.”
The US and Zionism
As Imperial Britain headed into decline, Imperial USA was ascending. The US would have a greater role in the Middle East.
Hart lauds US president Woodrow Wilson, “a real, towering statesman, a true giant among men.” Woodrow was apparently hamstrung on Palestine by his lobbying for the League of Nations. Hart blames “Imperial Britain-and-Zionism and their allies in [the US] Congress and the media; with … France” for screwing Wilson on Palestine.
Hart presents many “what if” scenarios. For example, he quotes British official John Hope Simpson: “Had the Jewish authorities been content with the original object of settlement in Palestine – a Jewish life without oppression and persecution in accordance with Jewish customs – the national home would have presented no difficulty.”
Or what if president Franklin Roosevelt had not died when he did? Hart speculates that Roosevelt would have rejected a Jewish state in Palestine.
Hart identifies influential Zionist agents in the White House, among others, David K. Niles. Although Truman is depicted as a president who grappled with the Zionist lobby, he had a vulnerability exploitable by Zionists.
Biting the Hand that Feeds
Ends would justify the means for Zionists. Even though Britain had set the stage for Jewish immigration to Palestine, even though Britain was at war with Nazi Germany — Zionists sought out a possible collaboration with Britain’s wartime enemy and an enemy to Jews. Hart sources Marxist writer Lenni Brenner who disclosed the Zionist negotiations with Nazi Germany. Zionists were dedicated to thwarting Jewish immigration to elsewhere than Palestine and were even willing to sacrifice Jewish lives to realize the goal of a Jewish state in Palestine.
And it was Jewish terrorism that forced Britain out of Palestine.
Zionism and Terrorism
The Zionist plan was to drive the British out, then drive the Palestinians out. Hart relates the strategy of the man who would become Israel’s first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, for keeping all the land: creating facts-on-the-ground. The problem with this strategy is that if old facts-on-the-ground can be erased to establish new ones, what is to stop new facts-on-the-ground from being created again?
The methods for creating these facts-on-the-ground were incredibly gruesome. The massacre at Deir Yassin is a historical testament to Zionist war crimes – “in its own tiny way it was another holocaust.” The village was a “soft and easy target”; “the butchers of Deir Yassin” killed 254 victims, mainly the elderly, women, and children. One-hundred-and-forty-five women were killed, 35 of them pregnant. Many were raped before being killed.
Hart quotes Mordechai Nisan of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem: “Without terror it is unlikely that Jewish independence would have been achieved when it was.” [emphasis added by Hart]
Abdul Khader, portrayed as a respected Palestinian resistance leader, died the day after the Deir Yassin Massacre. Gloom set in on the Palestinian side. Deir Yassin had its intended effect, sowing fear in the hearts of Palestinians, and the expulsion was underway.
Arab and International Complicity with Zionism
The Palestinians did not just have to deal with British treachery, they “were at the mercy of the Arab League” who at British insistence kept the Palestinians unarmed, much as the illegal sealing of Gaza’s borders today and control of the West Bank borders keeps Palestinians unarmed under brutal occupation and creeping dispossession.
Hart wonders: what if the Arab regimes of the time had sought an alliance with Stalin to defeat Zionism? He speculates that Truman might have had to stand up to Zionism.
Hart points out that the United Nations General Assembly, in defiance of its own charter which calls for respect for the principle of self-determination, would, aided by Zionist manipulation (disinformation, bribery, threats), decree an illegal partition of Mandate Palestine. Not only was the partition illegal, he argues, it was also unfair. Jews would receive 56.4 percent of the land while being 33 percent of the population and owning only 5.67 percent of the land. The valuable coastal and fertile areas were in Jewish hands while mountainous, infertile areas were left to the Palestinians. Hart calls it “a proposal for injustice on a massive scale.”
In the end, Truman capitulated to Zionism and recognized the partition. Truman had been subjected to “a political hit-squad of 26 pro-Zionist U.S. Senators” beholden to Jewish votes and money.
Truman’s secretary of state George Marshall resisted Zionism, putting “America’s national interests first and, to the limit of the possible within that context, doing what was legally and morally right.” Joining Marshall in opposition was US secretary of defense James Vincent Forrestal who might have been the most steadfast opponent of the corrupting influence of Jewish money on the Democratic Party had he not, according to Hart, died under suspicious circumstances. Nonetheless, the Zionists had access to a more influential actor on Truman.
Hart takes a sympathetic slant toward Truman, noting he had kept the Zionist lobby at bay until it discovered his Achilles heel: his good friend Eddie Jacobson, a non-Zionist Jew. Through Jacobson, Zionists could reach Truman.
It appears that Truman, although much irked by the selfishness of the Zionist lobby, bore much of the responsibility for opening the door to the influence of money from lobbyists. Grant F. Smith in his book America’s Defense Line supports this view: “The historical record reveals how Truman’s policy on the Palestine question became heavily influenced by his need for campaign contributions…” Smith credits Truman with starting a “competition to see who was more ‘pro-Israel’” among US presidential candidates. Smith presents evidence that Truman was swayed by “massive funds” for his 1948 presidential campaign raised with the help of arch-Zionist Abraham J. Feinberg.
The Brazilian pedagogue Freire theoretically described — without referring to it –what underlies the Zionist-Palestinian dynamic: that of the oppressor and the oppressed. Freire argued that oppression and the struggle of liberation from oppression are both oppressing. Oppression, he contends, is necrophilic. “Indeed, the interests of the oppressors lie in ‘changing the consciousness of the oppressed, not the situation that oppresses them.’”
To overcome the oppressor-oppressed dynamic, the oppressed must see themselves as agents of change. Revolution requires solidarity, and this, said Freire, is achieved through love — affirmation of one’s humanity. The act of rebellion by the oppressed is a gesture of love. The desire to be human saves oppressors from their own dehumanization caused by oppressing other humans.
“It is only the oppressed who, by freeing themselves, can free their oppressors,” wrote Freire.
Many Haskala Jews believe that liberation for all Jews will come from Palestinians achieving their liberation.
This looks like the direction Hart is heading with his Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews series. Volume One: The False Messiah is an important reference on what has transpired in the lead up to and formation of the Jewish State by Zionists. He brings valuable first-hand perspective, such as what lay behind Meir’s statement that there were no Palestinian people.
Hart gives a human face to some of the historical protagonists, portraying them not merely as actors but delving into the character of the persons. It is as if Hart seeks to humanize some of the persons who capitulated to Zionism.
However, there is no reason that evil should always appear in the guise of a demon. Humans come in all shades. Evil acts are evil despite the appearance of the evil-doer. Yes, it is probably much easier to perpetrate evil acts in cherubic rather that demonic guise, but why play to such stereotypes?
Hart’s book is a good act, a brave act for someone from British state media. He says he has to live with himself, and it is obvious this book comes from a place of integrity. Volume One: The False Messiah augurs well for the rest of the series.




Kim Petersen is co-editor of Dissident Voice.
He can be reached at: kim@dissidentvoice.org.
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http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/zionism-and-the-oppressor-oppressed-dynamic/

Mark Stapleton
10-26-2009, 05:48 PM
The point is bad people of any and all faiths or no faith are guilty and there are those in all faiths [not all cults] who are decent and against those others; and a proper perspective is important or one makes scapegoats of all those who are members of that religion. Hitler would have had me killed, though I am an atheist. That piece suffers from the same blindness, no matter how much of it is correct - the tone is not, and the hidden message as evil and wrong. Sorry. It needed being said. One of its hidden messages was that Jews were responsible for much of the problems in the world today. Not so. Among Jews you will find Neaderthal types and the most progressive fighters for Peace and Justice. Ditto Muslims and Christians, as well as other religions and atheists. Same for racially prejudicial pieces. Etc.

Peter, if I follow you correctly, it doesn't matter if the article was 100% correct, the tone was not. So therefore the article should be denounced as racially prejudicial and (most importantly) ignored.

Well, if I was a member of a club, sect, affiliation or brotherhood which behaved the way Israel does then I would resign immediately and denounce them instead of taking offence when facts emerge.

Stopping Israel from starting WW3 is a more pressing issue than concern over Jews becoming less popular. And Jews are responsible for much of the problems of the world today. That's a fact, not an expression of racial hatred. You only need look to Israel and the Zionists who control the mainstream media including Hollywood, as well as banking, finance and the US legislature.

Ed Jewett wants his country back. I want my country back. One of the two national public TV broadcasters here was recently banned from using the word Palestinians in the news coverage. A publicly owned broadcaster. How many foreign countries does Israel intend to control with this global network of Zionist string pullers, liars and manipulators? Zionists consider it very important to control what is said about them and Jews in general, because it allows them to get away with murder.

Mark Stapleton
10-26-2009, 06:01 PM
To Peter Lemkin (and everyone else):

Here is a short video which features former CIA analyst Ray McGovern and former State Department intelligence staffer Thielmann talking about the potential causes of armed conflict in Iran.

Listen to what they have to say:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/46970

Another article will follow.

Nice video Ed. Wake up America.

Ed Jewett
10-26-2009, 06:44 PM
I take very seriously the commentary here above and elsewhere about being precise, being clear, avoiding stereotyping etc. Even my wife said the other day 'you've never acted like that' but, after explanation by me, "Okay, now I understand..."

Similar interaction on a discussion board elsewhere caused me to stop, not react, think, consider, do some homework, etc.

The 'anti-Semitic' defense has been present for millennia; I just found a very old use of it in a new piece of written history.

The rest of the information is out there. I need not and will not flood this board with it; that's not its purpose, or our purpose.

I fully agree that there are good people of all faiths.

But there is a mind-set that will take further time for me to precisely delineate and research and express which has placed my nation and the world at extremely high risk and it must be identified and eliminated ... not the people, not the religious faith ... but the mind-set, one which can inevitably only become widely self-destructive.

The quote by Martin van Creveld and others about Israel's potential use of its nuclear capabilities -- that it will use them to take everyone else down if they are not allowed to "defend" themselves -- ought to send warning signals out to everyone. Couple that with some indications that it and its supporters (call them the Zionists) have already indicated a desire to have a genotype-specific biological weapon - (reference the PNAC document)- and that there is some indication that they have been working on this for some time -- coupled with an arrogance about the superiority of their way, race, etc., and you have a prescription for mass murder. Couple that with the genocide already underway with other weapons and techniques, and you have some cause for concern.

If that means that I have to be labeled as "something", or dismissed or marginalized, or banned. well, so be it.

I would feel the same if we were talking about Buddhists, Catholics, Taoists, Libertarians, Buddhists, Samoans, or a small handful of people from North Dakota. But none of them have the political, media, banking/finance, or military control, tools or expressed intent described above.

This mind-set seems to be of a nature that is separatist, apartheid, in-bred, rigid, manipulative and controlling, failing to adapt and settle within another place or culture, and paranoid. It is elitist, at the distant unnatural end of a Cartesian over-reliance on rationality (failing to ignore right-brain or body-centered knowledge), and of an arrogant Darwinist nature (eugenics of a different sort), taking survival of the fittest to the extreme.

This seems to be some form of gargantuan self-fulfilling prophecy... 'how I got them to do it to us' -- and, in their unbalanced irrationality, it becomes some type of international socio-psychopathology.

Is it possible for an international mind-set to be a post-traumatic stress disorder that is going to explode and commit widespread mayhem?

Mark Stapleton
10-27-2009, 12:15 AM
But there is a mind-set that will take further time for me to precisely delineate and research and express which has placed my nation and the world at extremely high risk and it must be identified and eliminated ... not the people, not the religious faith ... but the mind-set, one which can inevitably only become widely self-destructive.

The quote by Martin van Creveld and others about Israel's potential use of its nuclear capabilities -- that it will use them to take everyone else down if they are not allowed to "defend" themselves -- ought to send warning signals out to everyone. Couple that with some indications that it and its supporters (call them the Zionists) have already indicated a desire to have a genotype-specific biological weapon - (reference the PNAC document)- and that there is some indication that they have been working on this for some time -- coupled with an arrogance about the superiority of their way, race, etc., and you have a prescription for mass murder. Couple that with the genocide already underway with other weapons and techniques, and you have some cause for concern.

If that means that I have to be labeled as "something", or dismissed or marginalized, or banned. well, so be it.

I would feel the same if we were talking about Buddhists, Catholics, Taoists, Libertarians, Buddhists, Samoans, or a small handful of people from North Dakota. But none of them have the political, media, banking/finance, or military control, tools or expressed intent described above.

This mind-set seems to be of a nature that is separatist, apartheid, in-bred, rigid, manipulative and controlling, failing to adapt and settle within another place or culture, and paranoid. It is elitist, at the distant unnatural end of a Cartesian over-reliance on rationality (failing to ignore right-brain or body-centered knowledge), and of an arrogant Darwinist nature (eugenics of a different sort), taking survival of the fittest to the extreme.

This seems to be some form of gargantuan self-fulfilling prophecy... 'how I got them to do it to us' -- and, in their unbalanced irrationality, it becomes some type of international socio-psychopathology.

Is it possible for an international mind-set to be a post-traumatic stress disorder that is going to explode and commit widespread mayhem?

I think one of the causes of Zionist paranoia is that they blame the rest of the world for the holocaust. The fact that the rest of the world was not responsible for the actions of Nazi Germany is irrelevant to them. No one else is to be trusted, every non -Jew is potentially the enemy. This might explain why Zionists insist on total ownership of the historical narrative pertaining to this unfortunate period in human history. As outlined in your post, people have been imprisoned for even disagreeing with the official 'facts'. That's paranoia run amok. And what kind of 'truths' require draconian mind control laws to protect them? It would also explain why Zionists want to exercise control over the media and legislature of so many other nations.

Much of the non-western world recognises Israel's sickness, the Arab world and the Palestinians in particular. But Israel's total control of western media blinds us to the reality of what Israel has become. However unpalatable this issue is to the more faint hearted commentators, it should be addressed honestly and urgently. It's probably not an overstatement to describe it as a life and death matter now.

Steve Franklin
10-27-2009, 01:05 AM
It wasn't 'Jews' either and that piece, while correct on the who didn't do things and some of the offending parties is making an anti-Jewish diatribe, IMO - confusing the few leading right-wing Zionists with the Jewish People in and out of Israel and forgetting that many right-wing Christians and some Muslims are as much to blame for the general World situation, and perhaps 911, as anyone. While there is much correct in the article, the slant is to me offensive. Politics and power, not religion [or lack of same], are more often the culprit.

It's regrettable you were offended, Peter. It seems however that most of the claims about international Jewry ring true.

It will only become worse for you as more info about Zionists and their antics slowly becomes common knowledge.

Is this some kind of threat, Bunky?

You know, the bottom line on all of this Zionist bullshit is that if you really believed it, you'd keep your damned little fascist mouth closed, because you'd be in imminent danger of being murdered in your hallway by the Mossad. The very fact that you run your mouth is proof positive that you are either really really stupid or you don't really believe it. Which is it, Bunky?

Mark Stapleton
10-27-2009, 01:23 AM
Is this some kind of threat, Bunky?

You know, the bottom line on all of this Zionist bullshit is that if you really believed it, you'd keep your damned little fascist mouth closed, because you'd be in imminent danger of being murdered in your hallway by the Mossad. The very fact that you run your mouth is proof positive that you are either really really stupid or you don't really believe it. Which is it, Bunky?

Nice to meet you too. My name's Mark not Bunky if you don't mind.

So Zionism is a myth and I'm totally misguided am I? And Israel's behaviour, that's all a myth too I guess. What's that? I should be silent or I'll be killed in the hallway? Well I quess that's one way of silencing critics, eh tool? As for your rude question, I don't respond to demands from Zionist tools. It's a policy I have.

Clear?

Magda Hassan
10-27-2009, 02:04 AM
http://images.google.com.au/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.jossip.com/wp/docs/2008/12/khrushchev_shoe1.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHDopVUc_aGBVmLOXyTnh4p4ZAGfA
Gentlemen! A message from the Politbureau....
Can we please keep this civil? This can all be discussed with out resorting to 'Bunkey' :) and 'Zionist tool'
Or I will be forced to use
http://www.google.com.au/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.hojohnlee.com/weblog/wp-content/cone-of-silence.jpg&usg=AFQjCNH5jctlXr3oTXzLviaSbzdIWqTtgw
The Cone of Silence
No personal name calling. Stick to the issues, please.
Now, carry on.

Mark Stapleton
10-27-2009, 02:27 AM
No problem from me, Magda.

The implication that I should be keep silent or be 'imminently murdered in the hallway' is offensive to me. I'll do no such thing. I'll do the opposite, in fact.

He clearly wants the thread closed. It's a time honoured Mossad ploy. Looks like the DPF has its first sayanim.

Adrian Mack
10-29-2009, 11:00 PM
And Jews are responsible for much of the problems of the world today.This is acceptable here?

Magda Hassan
10-29-2009, 11:54 PM
And Jews are responsible for much of the problems of the world today.This is acceptable here?
No. It is not acceptable here. I expect either a forthcoming clarification or withdrawal from the original poster. It is as sloppy and vague not to mention racist and inaccurate as saying 'all Americans/men/Christians/Australians are......idiots/bastards/psychopaths/perfect etc.'

We are in the process of setting up some framework for debating the issue of Israel/Zionism. It is an area that certainly needs to be discussed and cannot be taboo given so much about it is already taboo but we need to use clearly defined and common political definitions to do so and to not allow the debate to degenerate into racial slurs and other intellectual sloppiness.

If you want to help in this endeavor you are most welcome as are other members.

Charles Drago
10-29-2009, 11:58 PM
My Dear Mr. Mack,

For your information, anti-Semitism does not and will never find a refuge on the Deep Politics Forum.

It is unfortunate that less than artful language is as likely to be found here as it is throughout dumbed-down Western societies.

Rest assured that this matter is being attended to diligently, sensitively, and honorably.

Finally, you would be unwise to interpret this message as either an embrace or a rejection of whatever point of view informs your previous post.

Mark Stapleton
10-30-2009, 01:52 AM
I guess that's my cue.

I agree with Magda and Charles that several of my posts on this thread have indeed been sloppy, hasty and overzealous. Peter rightly pointed out that many Jews are progressive and are horrified by the behaviour of Israel in their recent barbaric slaughter of 1500 defenceless Gazans, including 500 innocent children, ostensibly for 'security purposes'. J Street and other recently formed Jewish peace groups seem to be growing in voice and influence now. Unfortunately, this is scant consolation for the slaughtered Gazans and their families, and judging by recent comments from the Israeli Government it seems there is no end in sight for their despair, regardless of the opinions of progressive Jews.

Of course, there are many other aspects of Israel's behaviour which I see as egregiously evil, not least their determination to coerce the US and its allies into yet another war on a peaceful nation for the benefit of Israel's selfish expansionist ideals, with no consideration for the consequences which would be borne by the west and its allies, as well as millions of innocent Iranians.

I apologise to Peter and any others who were offended by my earlier comments. Passion and haste are obviously a dangerous mix.

Adrian Mack
10-30-2009, 02:13 AM
Magda and Charles, thanks for the reply. I didn't assume it was acceptable, but thought somebody should register that the post in the OP links to a hate site that promotes Holocaust denial, and includes phrases like "the International Jewry" to make its case.

It's not exactly shy about its agenda, and doesn't belong anywhere near a framework for debating the issues about Israel/Zionism. My suggestion would be to strongly repudiate material like this the minute it hits your fine forum.

Best,

Adrian

Myra Bronstein
10-30-2009, 03:22 AM
Magda and Charles, thanks for the reply. I didn't assume it was acceptable, but thought somebody should register that the post in the OP links to a hate site that promotes Holocaust denial, and includes phrases like "the International Jewry" to make its case.

It's not exactly shy about its agenda, and doesn't belong anywhere near a framework for debating the issues about Israel/Zionism. My suggestion would be to strongly repudiate material like this the minute it hits your fine forum.

Best,

Adrian

Thanks for speaking out Adrian, and Peter. It was necessary.

Thanks for your your explanation and apology Mark. Much appreciated.

And I'm glad you clarified DPF's position on this kind of thing Maggie and Charlie. Thank you.

Ed Jewett
10-30-2009, 05:18 AM
Well, I've been AWOL for over 24 hours so I clearly missed a cue too.

As it is my original post that precipitated this firestorm, I stand duly spanked and corrected, and apologize (again) for any offenses.

It certainly was a learning lesson for me, and will be again, in the necessity of clear writing, word selection, etc. as well as site and source selection, or review, or "vetting". There being so much "out there" in terms of information, "agenda", misinformation, disinformation, etc., we would be better off to share our collective opinions and insights on where the validity and veracity can be found. [See my recent post here: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12949&postcount=23 ] This does not suggest, by any means, the creation of ThoughtPolice, nor do I think that is present here at this site or in this thread.

That said, I do endorse further examination of the issues and topics as per Magda's post. I have great respect for the leaders and founders of this forum and look forward to the opportunity to learn from them. It seems clear to me that, however one would describe it or choose the words to articulate it, there is a good deal of espionage, propaganda, dirty tricks, 'black ops', state security and trans-national criminal cross-over and 'maskirovka' going on in and around these issues, agencies, countries, et alia, and that it is center stage in terms of world opinion, the United Nations, charges of war crimes, warfare, fiscal mischief at the high end, economic and cyber-warfare at the high end, and no doubt much much more.

And a quick scan of the usual sites tonight tells me that there are a lot of very nervous people out there in the Mideast, Israel, Iran, Pakistan, the US and elsewhere, and some of these national entities have supersonic aircraft and nuclear weapons and more (to be viewed in the context of several statements from key leaders that they would not hesitate to use the nuclear option in certain circumstances), and non-state and criminal entities involved too, at least one nuclear weapon still not accounted for, concurrent war games and exercises (with which we have some experiential data), a 'scary' short movie with a quote from Ike saying that the only way to win World War III is to prevent it, and otherwise a higher level than usual, it seems, of raber-sattling.

Prevention requires clarity and precision about who's motives and modus operandi are what. I plead guilty for not having provided it from the start. But there seems to be enough "data" out there in the world to begin to shape the question for the purpose of calling it.

If indeed the prospects of global conflagration (nuclear or not) are afoot and it can be prevented, political correctness and someone's hurt feelings are going to have be weighed against the stability of the Mideast and its oil market, the global economy, the already-grossly-inflamed hatreds among the three major religions, genocide, and the prospects of more harm and damage than I can conceive.

As before, I don't see it as an issue of religion or ethnicity: I see it as an issue of clear thinking and the lack of it, mostly on the part of the American political system as coincident with Israeli or Zionist interests and the stupor of the American people about what is going on in the world in general.

Forgive me if I am overly concerned for the fate of many peoples, my nation, and the presence of some sanity and humanity in our future. One quote jumped out at me today from a late 60's American civil rights era popular tune called "People Get Ready":

"...there ain't no room for the hopeless sinner who would hurt all mankind just to save his own".

The quotes that portray what we're talking about here are already in the public realm.



I'm all in favor of taking multiple deep, steady, slow breaths in order to quiet my amygdala and my racing mind.

I shall start now.

Maybe we can get some of our world "leaders" to learn the same lesson.

David Guyatt
10-30-2009, 10:48 AM
As I keep telling you Mark, you're a Gentleman.