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Magda Hassan
02-15-2010, 01:06 PM
Unbelievable!
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/bruce-anderson/bruce-anderson-we-not-only-have-a-right-to-use-torture-we-have-a-duty-1899555.html

David Guyatt
02-15-2010, 02:15 PM
The following is quite the most appalling thing I've read in a very long time:


Before 9/11, in front of some serious lawyers, I once argued that if there were a ticking bomb, the Government would not only have a right to use torture. It would have a duty to use torture. Up sprang Sydney Kentridge, one of the great liberals of our age and a fearless defender of unpopular causes, from Nelson Mandela in the old South Africa to fox-hunting in modern Britain. I prepared to receive incoming fire. It came, in the form of a devilish intellectual challenge. "Let's take your hypothesis a bit further. We have captured a terrorist, but he is a hardened character. We cannot be certain that he will crack in time. We have also captured his wife and children".

After much agonising, I have come to the conclusion that there is only one answer to Sydney's question. Torture the wife and children. It is a disgusting idea. It is almost a tragedy that we even have to discuss it, let alone think of acting upon it. But there is nothing to be gained from refusing to face facts, in the way that the Master of the Rolls, Lord Neuburger, did last week. His Lordship wrapped himself in a cloak of self-righteousness, traduced an entire security service, showed no understanding of the courage which its officers routinely display: no understanding, indeed, of anything beyond courtroom niceties.

(my italics).

If he were to be subjected to torture, I don't doubt for a second that he would break in double fast time --- but if he didn't, I feel sure he would allow his wife and children to be tortured rather than giving up the secret of his moral and ethical awfulness.

Magda Hassan
02-15-2010, 10:53 PM
It is people like this apologist for inhumanity that Hannah Arendt coined the term 'the banality of evil'. Who does one contact in the UK to make a formal complain about this man and what he is promoting?

David Guyatt
02-16-2010, 09:12 AM
Good question. proposing illegality is illegal, I think.