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Magda Hassan
02-24-2010, 04:07 AM
More false flag gladio style plans.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/7293872/Retired-military-chiefs-held-over-Turkish-coup-plot.html


Retired military chiefs held over Turkish coup plot

Three of Turkey's most senior former military leaders are being held on suspicion of plotting to provoke a conflict with Greece in an attempt to destabilise the country and pave the way for a coup.



by Damien McElroy
Published: 6:45PM GMT 22 Feb 2010

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01374/turkey-g20_1374574c.jpg Three of Turkey's most senior former military leaders have been accused of plotting a coup Photo: AP


They are accused of planning to provoke the Greek air force into shooting down a fighter jet to persuade the public the government was unable to guarantee national security.
The "Sledgehammer" plot is also said to have involved blowing up mosques and museums in Turkey so they could be blamed on outsiders and undermine the government.


Gen Ergin Saygun, a former deputy chief of the general staff, Gen Ibrahim Firtina, an ex-air force commander and Adml Ozden Ornek, the former head of the navy, were held during raids on their homes. A further 50 officers were arrested on suspicion of involvement in the plan.
The plan, said to have been formulated in 2003, called for Turkish jets to engage in aggressive manoeuvres with Greek counterparts in the sensitive airspace above Aegean Sea.
By provoking the Greeks into opening fire the plotters hoped to "turn the clock back to 1923" – the last year of the Greco-Turkish War. Domestic turmoil would be unleashed by separate bomb attacks on prominent mosques.
Once riots and demonstrations broke out, the military hoped to step in to oust the newly elected AK Party, which was viewed with suspicion because of its Islamic roots.
Among the plans was the seizure of the Fenerbahce football stadium in Istanbul to hold people rounded up in mass arrests. The plotters estimated that 200,000 people in the Istanbul area would pose a threat to public order after martial law was imposed.
The Lira fell one per cent as news of the round of arrests circulated yesterday.
The secularist Turkish army and judicial establishment has been ensnared by the investigation into the Ergenekon coup plot. It is the latest in a series of plots and conspiracies unearthed since the investigation was launched in 2007. Other schemes included the murder of a Roman Catholic priest and a prominent Armenian journalist.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister since 2003, hailed the latest round of arrests.
Turkey's military, which views itself as the founder of the state, has overthrown four governments since 1960 but conditions of European Union membership negotiations has left it little scope to depose elected politicians.
After decades of unquestioned military supremacy, the sight of senior military leaders – who are commonly addressed with the Ottoman-era title of pasha – handcuffed and facing the courts is a stark reversal of fortune. Secret recordings of generals plotting have been leaked and the details of the plot have inspired a minor publishing boom.
The investigation has also implicated senior members of the judiciary which, like the military, has resisted the modernising reforms of the current government.
Prime Minister Erdogan yesterday declared he would use the government's strong parliamentary majority to force through judicial reforms that have been resisted by the conservative bench.
"The judicial system should be objective and independent at the same time," he said. "We are willing to carry out a constitutional reform and we're going to bring the issue to the parliament with or without support from the opposition."

Ed Jewett
02-24-2010, 04:15 AM
Omigod...This is like a nightmare in slow motion, a bad play with seven acts. What was that old quote? "If there's a gun on the wall of the living room in the first act, it has to go off by the third act." Is there a Helen involved here somewhere? Someone held by his ankle tendon and dipped in the waters of immortality? Who holds the hubris card? What country will the Archduke come from?

Magda Hassan
02-24-2010, 04:24 AM
Omigod...This is like a nightmare in slow motion, a bad play with seven acts. What was that old quote? "If there's a gun on the wall of the living room in the first act, it has to go off by the third act." Is there a Helen involved here somewhere? Someone held by his ankle tendon and dipped in the waters of immortality? Who holds the hubris card? What country will the Archduke come from?
Indeed Ed. This need not be a Turkish production but an outsourced one.

Ed Jewett
02-24-2010, 05:05 AM
51 Turkish Military Officers Suspected of Planning Coup (http://cryptogon.com/?p=13931)

February 23rd, 2010 Via: AP (http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/prosecutors-interrogate-51prosecutors-interrogate-51-turkish-321143.html):
Prosecutors on Tuesday interrogated 51 Turkish military commanders, including former Air Force and Navy chiefs, over alleged plans to destabilize the country by blowing up mosques to trigger a coup and topple the Islamic-rooted government.
It was the highest profile crackdown ever on the Turkish military, which has ousted four governments since 1960. For decades Turkey’s senior officers, self-appointed guardians of the country’s secular tradition, called the shots.
But the balance of power in this EU-candidate country appeared to have shifted Monday as police rounded up the 51 military commanders, following the gathering of wiretap evidence and discovery of an alleged secret coup plan, dubbed “the sledgehammer.”
The nationwide sweep has dramatically deepened a power struggle between the secular establishment and the government, which has strong electoral backing and the European Union’s support. Turkey’s elite military — known as “pashas,” a title of respect harking back to Ottoman times — were once deemed untouchable.
“The most heavy sledgehammer to military custody,” read banner headline of daily Taraf, which has published leaked military documents that lead to the detentions.
The English-language newspaper Today’s Zaman said Tuesday that the operation was launched after experts determined the leaked documents were authentic. The government denies the ongoing crackdown is politically motivated or designed to silence government critics, as is claimed by opposition parties.
The suspects included former Air Force chief Gen. Ibrahim Firtina and Navy Chief Adm. Ozden Ornek, who allegedly chronicled some failed coup attempts, as well ex-deputy chief Gen. Ergin Saygun — who had accompanied Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan during his 2007 meeting with former President George W. Bush in Washington.
Also detained were the former head of the Special Forces, Gen. Engin Alan, and the former head of the 1st Army, Gen. Cetin Dogan.
All of the suspects, including nearly two dozen retired and active duty generals and admirals, were expected after questioning to appear Tuesday in an Istanbul court that is hearing all coup plot allegations.
The suspects face charges of attempting to topple the government by force, and membership in an illegal organization for that purpose, daily Milliyet said Tuesday.

David Guyatt
02-24-2010, 12:08 PM
Those on the right just adore false flag operations. They have served them so well over the decades and centuries.

Jan Klimkowski
02-24-2010, 06:57 PM
Yes, my friends, this is infused with the stench of Gladio, far right false flag operations and deep politics:

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1150

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1156

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1148

Magda Hassan
03-29-2010, 11:54 AM
Operation Gladio in Turkey, 2010: The Ergenekon Military “Suicides” and the CIA

3rd March 2010
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By Alex Constantine
http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/resimler_haber_ergenekon-12.jpg (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/resimler_haber_ergenekon-12.jpg)Today’s Zaman, an English-only newspaper in Turkey, reported on February 10 (http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-201140-101-naval-officer-latest-in-series-of-military-brass-suicides.html) that a rash of “suspicious suicides” – implying emphatically that these were really political murders – had claimed the lives of a seven military officers recently. Note the reference to a shadowy organization known as “Ergenekon”:

… Several members of the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) have recently died in suspicious suicides, brought back into the spotlight late last year after Lt. Col. Ali Tatar was found dead in his ?stanbul home. Tatar, a naval officer, reportedly shot himself in the head. The lieutenant colonel’s alleged suicide was found to be suspicious, particularly due to his suspected links to Ergenekon, a clandestine network accused of plotting to overthrow the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) government.

The latest “suicide” was a Naval officer:

A staff colonel who reportedly committed suicide on Monday afternoon in the Aegean province of ?zmir is the latest in a long list of recent alleged suicides by members of the military. An investigation has been launched into the incident by the military prosecutor’s office, while his body was taken to the Council of Forensic Medicine (ATK) for an autopsy. … Erden was the seventh naval officer to die in a suspicious suicide or accident over the past seven years. …
Seems Turkish officers are an endangered species these days, but the circumstantial and forensic evidence does not support the “suicide” verdict:

Retired Col. Belgütay Var?ml? also reportedly killed himself by jumping off the balcony of his apartment in ?stanbul’s Kad?köy district on Nov. 20 of last year. Var?ml?’s suicide aroused suspicion because he was known to be a devout Muslim and would not have condoned the idea of killing oneself since suicide is one of the biggest sins in Islam.

Capt. Olgun Vural also died in a suspicious suicide. An autopsy of Vural, who was found dead in his house on March 24, 2009, showed that the bullet’s entry wound was smaller than the exit wound. The finding strengthened suspicions that the captain may have been shot in the back by someone else.
http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Ergenekon1-243x300.jpg (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Ergenekon1.jpg)What is “Ergenekon,” and what is this killing spree all about? According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_%28organization%29), Ergenekon is “located in the inaccessible valleys of the Altay Mountains … recently given to an alleged clandestine, Kemalist ultra-nationalist organization in Turkey with ties to members of the country’s military and security forces. The group is accused of terrorism in Turkey. … Alleged members have been indicted on charges of plotting to foment unrest (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension), among other things by assassinating intellectuals, politicians, judges, military staff, and religious leaders, with the ultimate goal of toppling the incumbent government in a coup that was planned to take place in 2009. This follows allegations published in Nokta (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wiki/Nokta) that several abortive coups (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wiki/Nokta#Alleged_coup_diary) with the same intent were planned a few years ago. The proximate motive behind these false flag (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wiki/False_flag) activities is said to be to discredit the incumbent Justice and Development Party (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wiki/Justice_and_Development_Party_%28Turkey%29) and derail Turkey’s accession process to the European Union (http://www.theworldismycountry.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union).“
Ergenekon may be tucked away in the mountains, but it is a lethal terrorist organization, partially financed by drugs and rooted in the Cold War and Central Intelligence Agency. Wiki:

The first person to publicly talk about the organization was retired naval officer Erol Mütercimler (http://www.erolmutercimler.com/), who said in 1997:

“It is above the General Staff, the M?T and the Prime Minister. There are generals, heads of police departments, and businessmen in this organization.”
“Defining it as a gang is an oversimplification. What is a gang? It is the engagement of a number of people in illegal affairs. You can not define Ergenekon as a gang. It is part of a big organization. Alparslan Türke? and [retired general] Turgut Sunalp were members of Ergenekon. ”
“As I have worked for the state for many years, I know that forming such an organization necessitates a big budget. It is not easy to establish such an organization as Ergenekon. First of all, it requires a great staff. It needs businessmen, and perhaps drug traffickers.”

Mütercimler said he heard of the original organization’s existence from retired general Memduh Ünlütürk, who was involved in the anti-communist Ziverbey interrogations following the 1971 coup.[27] Major general Ünlütürk told Mütercimler that Ergenekon was founded with the support of the CIA and the Pentagon. …
The US-seeded chaos in Turkey, many observers say, is patterned after the norotious Operation Gladio. References:
http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2009/04/ergenekon-operation-gladio-false-flag.html
http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2008/09/bali-bomb-was-cia-gladio-type-atrocity.html
http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2008/08/911-holographic-projection-onto-drones.html
http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2008/07/turkey-agarta-ergenekon-gladio.html
http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2008/04/gladio-deep-state-cog-oligarchy-rules.html
http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2008/03/usa-terror-covert-bloodbaths-chomsky.html
http://www.theworldismycountry.org/allposts/operation-gladio-in-turkey-2010-the-ergenekon-military-suicides-and-the-cia
(http://tangibleinfo.blogspot.com/2007/08/zapruder-fake-and-911-fake.html)

Danny Jarman
03-29-2010, 12:40 PM
Great post Magda

Magda Hassan
03-29-2010, 12:46 PM
Thanks Danny but it was actually Alex Constantine. I linked to his site at the bottom of the page. But yes, great post. Alex is a good one.

David Guyatt
03-29-2010, 03:20 PM
“Defining it as a gang is an oversimplification. What is a gang? It is the engagement of a number of people in illegal affairs. You can not define Ergenekon as a gang. It is part of a big organization. Alparslan Türke? and [retired general] Turgut Sunalp were members of Ergenekon. ”
“As I have worked for the state for many years, I know that forming such an organization necessitates a big budget. It is not easy to establish such an organization as Ergenekon. First of all, it requires a great staff. It needs businessmen, and perhaps drug traffickers.”
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Mütercimler said he heard of the original organization’s existence from retired general Memduh Ünlütürk, who was involved in the anti-communist Ziverbey interrogations following the 1971 coup.[27] Major general Ünlütürk told Mütercimler that Ergenekon was founded with the support of the CIA and the Pentagon. …
The US-seeded chaos in Turkey, many observers say, is patterned after the norotious Operation Gladio.


I wonder if it was this organization that is or was behind the American Turkish Council that Sibel Edmonds referenced as being involved in 911?