View Full Version : The Daily Bellylaugh has a corker story today

David Guyatt
03-05-2010, 11:45 AM
I am so reminded of the story they ran about 700,000 Chinese troops massing on the Mexican-US border. That story and this one equal any story ever run by the Sunday Sport, including the red London bus being found on the Moon lampoon.

But lies is lies is lies. And it is a lie.


George W Bush 'would not have invaded Iraq had he known about WMD'

George W. Bush would not have invaded Iraq had he known there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the country, Karl Rove, his chief political advisor, has claimed in his memoirs.

Former president Bush really is very nice and cuddly says top aide

Mr Rove rejects allegations that the administration lied about the presence of the weapons in Saddam Hussein's arsenal, leading the US and Britain into war in Iraq.

Mr Rove, rear gunner.

Instead, Mr Rove, who served as senior adviser and deputy chief of staff, offers a defence of Mr Bush's presidency, pointing to Democrats who accepted intelligence on WMDs as well.

Would the Iraq War have occurred without WMD? I doubt it," he writes in "Courage and Consequence: My Life as a Conservative in the Fight".

"Congress was very unlikely to have supported the use-of-force resolution without the WMD threat. The Bush administration itself would probably have sought other ways to constrain Saddam, bring about regime change, and deal with Iraq's horrendous human rights violations."

He adds: "So, then, did Bush lie us into war? Absolutely not."

Mr Rove being congratulated by police officers at his book launch

The book, which will be published next week in America, offers one of the most intimate (er, lying - Editor) portraits of decision-making in Mr Bush's White House.

Mr Rove delves into the controversy surrounding the leak of the identity of the CIA operative Valerie Plame, whose husband Joseph Wilson was critical of Mr Bush. He describes his attempts to have a "stiff upper lip" and mask his fear that he would be charged in the affair.

"Behind the mask, the whole thing was scaring the hell out of me," he writes. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

David Guyatt
03-12-2010, 12:20 PM
This creature would change his mind if he were not tortured too. But from his safe, elevated perch he knows he can drop pure shit homilies without fear of reprisal.


'I'm proud of using waterboarding to break terrorists,' claims Bush's top political adviser

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 12:13 PM on 12th March 2010


Defiant: Karl Rove claimed that waterboarding had saved lives
George W Bush's top political adviser has said he was 'proud' of controversial techniques such as waterboarding, which he claimed broke the will of terrorist.

Karl Rove - known as the former president's 'brain' - said he did not believe that the interrogation method amounted to torture.

In an interview with the BBC, he claimed that waterboarding - which simulates drowning - had helped prevent terrorist attacks.

'I'm proud that we used techniques that broke the will of these terrorists and gave us valuable information that allowed us to foil plots,' he said.

'I am proud that we kept the world safer than it was by the use of these techniques. They are appropriate, they are in conformity with our international requirements and with US law.'

Asked if he believed waterboarding was torture, he said: 'No, it's not. People need to read the memos that outline what was permissible and not permissible before they make a judgement about these things.'

'Every one of the people who were waterboarded had a doctor who had to ascertain that there had been no long-lasting physical or mental damage to the individual,' he said.

The senior Republican aide and Bush's deputy chief of staff said in the Newsnight interview that subjects had told they would not drown before they underwent the procedure.

He insisted terror plots had been prevented by the tough interrogation, citing flying planes into Heathrow and London, bringing down aircraft over the Pacific and flying an aircraft into the tallest tower in Los Angeles.

Human rights activists demonstrate waterboarding on a volunteer in Washington
Mr Rove has recently published his memoir, Courage And Consequence, in it, he defends the Bush regime as 'impressive, durable and significant'.

Earlier this week, the former head of MI5 Baroness Eliza Manningham-Buller said that U.S intelligence agencies deliberately concealed their mistreatment of terror suspects.

She said she had only learnt that 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had been waterboarded - a total of 160 times - after retiring from the Security Service in 2007.

Ex-MI5 head Lady Manningham-Buller said earlier this week members of Bush's team may have been inspired by on-screen excess in the TV series '24', starring Kiefer Sutherland (above). Mr Rove said the comment was 'laughable'
When asked if U.S. intelligence had told their British counterparts about their methods Mr Rove said he would have to 'defer to intelligence officials'.

But he added: 'I suspect since we were sharing that information with the Democratic and Republican leader of committees that there was widespread knowledge in the intelligence committees and its source.'

In her speech to the Mile End Group at the House of Lords, Lady Manningham-Buller also joked that members of U.S. President George W. Bush's administration, including Vice President Dick Cheney and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, may have been inspired by on-screen excess.

'One of the sad things is Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush all watched "24",' Lady Manningham-Buller said, referring to the popular TV show about a counter-terrorist agent, starring Kiefer Sutherland.

But Mr Rove said this was 'laughable'. He said President Bush rarely watched TV apart from sport and that Mr Cheney while a fan of 24 'is perfectly capable of distinguishing between fact and fiction'.

Barack Obama banned waterboarding shortly after his inauguration in Janaury 2009.

The technique had been sanctioned in a series of memos compiled by lawyers working for Bush in August 2002.

Crucially, the documents laid out the legal provision for its use thus giving immunity to the state employees who carried it out. Some of the memos were released last year.

There have been a number of high profile detainees who were subjected to the technique, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the September 11 attacks.

He was waterboarded on more than 160 separate occasions. Briton Binyam Mohamed, who was held at Guantanamo Bay, was also waterboarded.

Magda Hassan
03-12-2010, 12:26 PM
Perhaps a bit of water boarding to find the Plame leak may be in order?

David Guyatt
03-12-2010, 12:44 PM
That would be fine --- so long as it wasn't torture.