View Full Version : Ricin you say? Oh, he's white, we're not interested.

Peter Presland
03-10-2010, 07:11 PM
I meant to post this a couple of days ago. It's from Obsolete's blog. (http://www.septicisle.info/labels/neo-Nazis.html) He's a young guy who has a knack of both spotting and reporting the garbage that our MSM spout in furtherance of Establishment agendas.

I bet there are VERY few people in the UK who remember the few paragraphs this warranted in just a few of our MSM less than a week ago:

Remember the "ricin plot" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricin_plot) where there was no ricin, where the recipe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/14/alqaida.terrorism) which Kamel Bourgass had could not have produced ricin (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/14/wood_green_ricin_case/) and where his plan, to smear it on doorknobs and car door handles wouldn't have killed anyone as the poison needs to be either injected, ingested or inhaled to work? It was the first real "terror plot" post-9/11 in this country, came two months before the invasion of Iraq (in the context of which it was used by Colin Powell during his now (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.powell.transcript/) notorious presentation to the UN), and the press coverage was massive in both response and in its hyperbole, the government doing its best to help it along by not bothering to inform anyone until Bourgass' trial was over that there had been no ricin after all.

You would then expect a case where ricin actually was found to provoke a similar media response. After all, while ricin is not the most deadly of potential "biological/chemical" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricin#Use_as_a_chemical.2Fbiological_warfare_agent ) warfare poisons, it is still usually deadly when used "properly", as in the assassination of Georgi Markov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov), a cold war precursor to the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.

It's strange then that almost no coverage whatsoever (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8556059.stm) has been given to the case of Ian Davison, although perhaps that name itself somewhat gives the game away. Unlike Bourgass, Davison actually produced ricin, which was found in a jam jar in a cupboard in his kitchen (http://www.jarrowandhebburngazette.com/latest-news/Man-admits-having-deadly-Ricin.6132565.jp). He today pleaded guilty to producing a chemical weapon, possessing the usual array of explosives manuals, including the Anarchist's Handbook and the Mudgahein's (sic) Explosives Handbook and preparing for acts of terrorism. It seems, if indeed you needed telling, that Davison is the latest in a string of extreme right-wingers (http://www.septicisle.info/labels/neo-Nazis.html) to be brought before the courts on explosive or terrorist charges, although little seems to be known in this instance about what groups, if any Davison was associated with, with the police only hinting when he was arrested that it could be related to "a worldwide terror plot (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6444213.ece) targeting ethnic minorities", something which we should probably take with a pinch of salt. Davison's son is also to face charges of "possessing material containing information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing acts of terrorism", after which he'll be sentenced.

Our old friend Kamel Bourgass was sentenced to a quite incredible 17 years (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4433709.stm) for his impossible and implausible plot to kill using the ricin which he didn't have, on top of the life imprisonment he received for murdering PC Stephen Oake. One wonders what sentence will be passed on Davison, considering he actually had ricin in his possession, even if he didn't have the flawed plan which Bourgass has. The Met's then head of anti-terrorism Peter Clarke claimed after Bourgass' conviction, with a straight face, that a "real and deadly threat" had been averted. If it had then, one wonders in what terms a police chief with a similar agenda and a sense for exaggeration would describe Davison's conviction.

Keith Millea
03-10-2010, 08:48 PM
Here is another strange one.Can she really be this stupid??????

'JihadJane' Charged With Recruiting Terrorists Online

MaryClaire Dale
PHILADELPHIA (March 10) -- The self-described "Jihad Jane" who thought her blond hair and blue eyes would let her blend in as she sought to kill an artist in Sweden is a rare case of an American woman aiding foreign terrorists and shows the evolution of the global threat, authorities say.

The suburban Philadelphia woman, Colleen R. LaRose, is accused in the indictment filed Tuesday of actively recruiting fighters, as well as agreeing to murder the artist, marry a terrorism suspect so he could move to Europe and martyr herself if necessary.

LaRose is "one of only a few such cases nationwide in which females have been charged with terrorism violations," said U.S. Department of Justice spokesman Dean Boyd.
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Colleen LaRose, an American woman who went by "JihadJane" online, was indicted Tuesday for using the Internet to recruit jihadist fighters and to help terrorists overseas.

LaRose, 46, of Pennsburg but with close ties to south Texas, has been held without bail since her Oct. 15 arrest in Philadelphia.

Authorities said the case shows how terrorist groups are looking to recruit Americans to carry out their goals.

"Today's indictment, which alleges that a woman from suburban America agreed to carry out murder overseas and to provide material support to terrorists, underscores the evolving nature of the threat we face," said David Kris, assistant attorney general for national security.

LaRose had targeted Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks and had online discussions about her plans with at least one of several suspects apprehended over that plot Tuesday in Ireland, according to a U.S. official speaking on condition of anonymity because the official wasn't authorized to discuss details of the investigation.

A U.S. Department of Justice spokesman wouldn't confirm the case is related to Vilks, who angered Muslims by depicting the Prophet Muhammad with the body of a dog.

The indictment charges that LaRose, who also used the name Fatima LaRose online, agreed to kill the target on orders from the unnamed terrorists she met online, and traveled to Europe in August to do so. Court documents don't say whether the person was killed, but LaRose was not charged with murder.

LaRose indicated in her online conversations that she thought her blond hair and blue eyes would help her move freely in Sweden to carry out the attack, the indictment said.

LaRose is a convert to Islam who actively recruited others, including at least one unidentified American, and her online messages expressed her willingness to become a martyr and her impatience to take action, according to the indictment and the U.S. official.

Killing the target would be her goal "till I achieve it or die trying," she wrote a south Asian suspect in March 2009, according to the indictment.

Her federal public defender, Mark T. Wilson, declined to comment Tuesday.

U.S. Attorney Michael Levy said the indictment doesn't link LaRose to any organized terror groups. He would not comment on whether other arrests were expected.

In recent years, the only other women charged in the U.S. with terror violations were lawyer Lynne Stewart, convicted of helping imprisoned blind Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman communicate with his followers, and Aafia Siddiqui, a Pakistani scientist found guilty of shooting at U.S. personnel in Afghanistan while yelling, "Death to Americans!"

But neither case involved the kind of plotting attributed to LaRose - a woman charged with trying to foment a terror conspiracy to kill someone overseas.

Stewart has insisted she is "not a traitor," while Siddiqui has accused U.S. authorities of lying about her.

LaRose called herself JihadJane in a YouTube video in which she said she was "desperate to do something somehow to help" ease the suffering of Muslims, the indictment said. According to the 11-page document, she agreed to obtain residency in a European country and marry one of the terrorists to enable him to live there.

She moved to Europe in August with her boyfriend's stolen passport and intended to give it to one of her "brothers," the indictment said. She hoped to "live and train with jihadists and to find and kill" the targeted artist, it said.

LaRose also agreed to provide financial help to her coconspirators in Asia and Europe, the indictment charged.

LaRose had an initial court appearance on Oct. 16 but didn't enter a plea. No further court dates have been set.

Her boyfriend, Kurt Gorman, told the Philadelphia Daily News that the two met in Ennis, Texas, several years ago and that nothing seemed amiss until she packed up her clothes and moved out of their apartment in Pennsburg without warning in August, the day after his father's funeral.

"I was upset, worried. Maybe something happened to her," he said.

A few weeks later, two FBI agents visited him, and in November or December he was subpoenaed by a federal grand jury to testify, Gorman said.

"She never talked about international events, about Muslims, anything," he told the newspaper. "It's very strange. I still can't believe it."

Associated Press Writer Devlin Barrett in Washington contributed to this report.

Peter Lemkin
03-11-2010, 10:12 AM
...a terrorist under every rug...how 'convenient'! :alberteinstein:

They really have found an almost fool-proof or fool-full way of having an endless war....gee what a great step in human progress...in the past wars, as horrible as they were, as unjustified as 99.9% of them were were time limited....now, due to better ideas from the bad guys we now have....[hushed crowd, holding breath, one baby in audience crying.....tension so thick you could cut it with a knife....] ta da! PERMANENT WAR on [really OF] TERROR! Progress! :rock: