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Magda Hassan
12-05-2008, 08:02 AM
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/456.html

I've been watching the development of this guy's business for many years now wondering when it would get lift off. Most warehouse fork lifts run on compressed air engines so I assume it is something along the same lines. Why hasn't this been taken up by a) the media b) car manufacturing c) investors or government? Most consumers don't know about it. Given the chance of running an urban vehicle for $2 tank or filling up for $120 I know what I would choose. I know I would also choose the one that is environmentally better. This type of vehicle has been available for many years as have electric vehicles. Why do we even permit vehicles that emit pollution when there are alternatives?

Peter Lemkin
12-05-2008, 08:23 AM
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/456.html

Why do we even permit vehicles that emit pollution when there are alternatives?

As one answer to your question see the very good film available on internet called Who Killed The Electric Car.

David Guyatt
12-05-2008, 09:08 AM
The film Who Killed the Electric Car can be viewed HERE (http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/).

Magda Hassan
12-05-2008, 09:09 AM
We have that in the 'Good for Business Bad for People' play list in our YouTube channel. I highly recommend it.

Peter Lemkin
12-05-2008, 10:57 AM
Another good film about the 'ethically challenged' is the film about Enron entitled 'The Smartest Guys In The Room" - another must see.

Keith Millea
12-05-2008, 05:43 PM
When I viewed "Who Killed the Electric Car",they mentioned that it was the invention of the special battery that really made the electric vehicle viable.This was a private inventor not GM that had the patent.Now,as I was watching "Democracy Now" about a week ago,during an interview with(I forget),their was a quip that Exxon-Mobil had bought up the battery patent back when GM decided to scrap the vehicle.Makes me wonder if the batteries that we use today are of the same design,or are something different.:confused:

Keith

Peter Lemkin
12-05-2008, 05:50 PM
When I viewed "Who Killed the Electric Car",they mentioned that it was the invention of the special battery that really made the electric vehicle viable.This was a private inventor not GM that had the patent.Now,as I was watching "Democracy Now" about a week ago,during an interview with(I forget),their was a quip that Exxon-Mobil had bought up the battery patent back when GM decided to scrap the vehicle.Makes me wonder if the batteries that we use today are of the same design,or are something different.:confused:

Keith

I'm not sure that Exxon bought the patent, but if they did they bought it to 'bury it'. Much the way GM purchased the lightrail transit system in L.A. after the War and then tore it up and melted it down - so persons in L.A. would have to purchase their cars. I could cite many other examples of big corporations buying-up patents and 'things' in order to destroy them or make them only for their benefit. The batteries that man in the film designed for the EV-1 were VERY special and unique - nothing like the Neaderthal Pb batteries used in cars today!....

Keith Millea
12-05-2008, 07:51 PM
I may have confused companies.Here is a link that explains the patents path.


http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ev1electriccar.html

In 1994, General Motors acquired a controlling interest in Ovonics's battery development and manufacturing, including patents controlling the manufacturing of large nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries. In 2001, Texaco purchased GM's share in GM Ovonics. A few months later, Chevron acquired Texaco. In 2003, Texaco Ovonics Battery Systems was restructured into Cobasys, a 50/50 joint venture between Chevron and Energy Conversion Devices (ECD) Ovonics.[11] Chevron's influence over Cobasys extends beyond a strict 50/50 joint venture.

Keith Millea
12-06-2008, 01:26 AM
That same web page has much good info on alternative energy.Here is more on compressed air.



http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/compressedair.htm

Keith

Peter Lemkin
12-06-2008, 11:37 AM
An even better idea for many locations [not rainy Europe just now...]
solar powered cars already exist....just don't expect anyone of the major car companies to really try to market and mass-produce them; they are in bed with the oil companies. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=solar+powered+cars&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

Dawn Meredith
12-11-2008, 08:38 PM
An even better idea for many locations [not rainy Europe just now...]
solar powered cars already exist....just don't expect anyone of the major car companies to really try to market and mass-produce them; they are in bed with the oil companies. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=solar+powered+cars&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

And that is the answer to the original question in this post: The damn oil companies.

As an aside, I'm still waiting for someone to actually invent the fictitious John Galt- (Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand)- motor: utilizing static electricity. It sounded like a great idea to me when I read that book (at age 18).
I also read something back in that era about a car that had been invented which ran on electricity. No car manufacturer in the US was interested, again, in bed with the oil companies.
Dawn