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Keith Millea
11-14-2010, 11:32 PM
Excuse me for a moment.....:puke:

Oh that silly Hillary,making fun of the size of Bibi's dick.That's not very diplomatic of her.....:flute:


Published on Sunday, November 14, 2010 by Haaretz (Israel) (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s-offers-israel-warplanes-in-return-for-new-settlement-freeze-1.324496) U.S. Offers Israel Warplanes in Return for New Settlement Freeze

Netanyahu presents security cabinet with Clinton's incentive of 20 F-35 fighter planes and security guarantees in exchange for 90-day West Bank building moratorium.

by Barak Ravid and Natasha Mozgovaya


Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's seven-member inner cabinet discussed Saturday an offer by the United States to reinstate a freeze on West Bank Settlement construction in return for a package of incentives.


http://www.commondreams.org/files/article_images/usoffersisraelwarplanes.jpgPrime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's seven-member inner cabinet discussed Saturday an offer by the United States to reinstate a freeze on West Bank Settlement construction in return for a package of incentives. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

Netanyahu presented Saturday the U.S. offer, which was discussed by Netanyahu and U.S.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday, to the forum of seven.

According to the offer Israel would stop construction in the West Bank for 90 days. The freeze includes construction that began after the end of the first settlement moratorium on September 26.

The moratorium would not apply to construction in East Jerusalem. The U.S. will not ask Israel to extend the new moratorium when it expires.

Saeb Erekat, the Palestinian negotiator, said the Americans had not officially informed the Palestinians about the details of the proposal, "but they know we have a major problem in not including east Jerusalem".

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will put the U.S. plan before Palestinian decision-makers and call for an immediate session of Arab League officials before announcing an official decision, Erekat said.
In return for an Israeli freeze, the U.S. government would deliver 20 F-35 fighter jets to Israel, a deal worth $3 billion. Moreover, if an Israeli-Palestinian agreement is achieved, the U.S. would sign a comprehensive security agreement with Israel. The U.S. and Israel are to discuss the nature of the new security arrangements in the next few weeks.
According to "The Cable" blog, White House Middle East adviser Dan Shapiro told a group of American Jewish leaders on Friday that U.S. was committed to fighting delegitimization of Israel, and listed recent efforts to advocate on behalf of Israel.

Such efforts included: curbing actions by the United Nations on the Goldstone Report; blocking anti-Israel UN resolutions concerning the Gaza flotilla raid; defeating international resolutions aimed at exposing Israel's nuclear program at the International Atomic Energy Agency; and strengthening pressure on Iran and Syria in regards to their nuclear and proliferation activities.

U.S.-sponsored direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority broke down on September 26 when a 10-month Israeli freeze on settlement construction in the West Bank expired. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has said he would not restart negotiations with Israel while settlement construction continues.

Copyright 2010 Haaretz

Magda Hassan
11-15-2010, 12:10 AM
90 days? That's all? How about forever? Israel will take both the planes and the land.

Jan Klimkowski
11-15-2010, 06:04 PM
Excuse me for a moment.....:puke:

Oh that silly Hillary,making fun of the size of Bibi's dick.That's not very diplomatic of her.....:flute:



:beer: :joyman:

However, it's all a cunning plan to distract the world from yet another dump on the Palestinians. :toilet:

Here's the deal:
Step 1) Israel halts illegal settlement building for a whopping 90 days;
Step 2) America delivers 20 F-35 fighter jets worth $3 billion to Israel;
Step 3) Israel restarts illegal settlement building.

What a crock. :evil:

David Guyatt
11-15-2010, 08:23 PM
Excuse me for a moment.....:puke:

Oh that silly Hillary,making fun of the size of Bibi's dick.That's not very diplomatic of her.....:flute:



:beer: :joyman:

However, it's all a cunning plan to distract the world from yet another dump on the Palestinians. :toilet:


And the cunning plan "kinda lingers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECyoaWMvU9c)" with us all - to use the immortal Not The Nine O'Clock News interpretation of those evocative words.

Jan Klimkowski
11-15-2010, 08:41 PM
And the cunning plan "kinda lingers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECyoaWMvU9c)" with us all - to use the immortal Not The Nine O'Clock News interpretation of those evocative words.

And here is Baldrick's final cunning plan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3-Gt7mgyM).

Keith Millea
11-15-2010, 08:45 PM
Sorry for the little diversion people but I want to ask this question.

How do you post a youtube video and have a word that can be used to post the video link?What I'm referring to is like how David used "kinda lingers",and Jan used "cunning plan" in the above threads.Thanks

Magda Hassan
11-15-2010, 08:47 PM
I just bring up the You Tube video in a separate window or tab and copy the url then paste it in the forum reply then I'd do the same for the lyrics.

Keith Millea
11-15-2010, 08:59 PM
I just bring up the You Tube video in a separate window or tab and copy the url then paste it in the forum reply then I'd do the same for the lyrics.

Yes,that's how I do it now,but I don't want to paste the url.I want to use a word to go to the url.I've also seen people paste the whole youtube screen onto a post.That would even be better.

Jan Klimkowski
11-15-2010, 09:00 PM
Hi Keith - only just learnt this myself, so this is my very basic understanding.

The aim is to replace a boring url (hyperlink) with something more interesting.

So:

i) type in the more interesting phrase;

ii) highlight the phrase (eg cunning plan);

iii) hit the "Insert Link" icon in the toolbar which opens when you're composing a reply (beneath the smiley);

iv) type in the hyperlink from another browser window into the "Insert Link" box.

v) the link should now be hidden beneath the more interesting highlighted phrase.

NB there may be an existing http:// in the "Insert Link" box, so make sure the link you're posting only has a single http://

Keith Millea
11-15-2010, 09:05 PM
OK,I think I got it.

Thanks Jan.

Mark Stapleton
11-16-2010, 01:51 PM
For example, Joe Pesci Calls a Brotha (www.soundboard.com/sb/Joe_Pesci_Prank_Calls.aspx)

Mark Stapleton
11-16-2010, 02:32 PM
My goodness it worked.

Thanks for the tip Jan, and thanks Keith for posing that question. I've never been able to figure it out either.

Oh yes, the 'deal'. A ninety day stay of execution in exchange for another 3 billion dollars worth of killing power for Israel's inviolate 'security'. Sounds finger lickin' good to me but of course it's not the Palestinians who are drooling.

Every 'deal' Israel has connived with America involving the Middle East has been akin to buying Manhatten from the Indians for 100 guilders (or whatever it was).

This one takes it to a new level. The ephemeral element of time now enters the equation. It think it works out at about 33 million a day to secure Israel's restraint. I'm surprised they didn't ask for 50 million a day but I heard there's a slight economic problem in America at the moment, so I guess Israel might settle for a mere 33 mill a day from the US taxpayer--which is very noble of them I'm sure you'll agree. But just this once, mind. Israeli restraint is rarer than gold and far more expensive, as Americans will further discover when a second 'deal' rolls around ninety days after this one.

Gee America owes them a lot. If I was an American I would surely say, "Thanks for letting us off so lightly Bibi. We owe you bigtime for this". And I predict that's exactly what that treasonous pissant Hilary Clinton will say when Bibi 'reluctantly' accepts.

Let's hope those millions of Americans on the breadline show some gratitude by offering to send more of their children to fight in some new or existing theatre of war in the Middle East before they starve to death. It's the least they could do.

David Guyatt
01-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Jaw-jaw about war-war.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s-envoys-arrive-in-israel-in-bid-to-advance-peace-talks-with-palestinians-1.338131


Published 15:13 20.01.11Latest update 15:13 20.01.11

U.S. envoys arrive in Israel in bid to advance peace talks with Palestinians
Obama adviser Dennis Ross and David Hale, deputy to Mideast envoy George Mitchell, will meet with Netanyahu to discuss Israel's security needs in a proposed peace deal.

By Barak Ravid

U.S. diplomats Dennis Ross and David Hale arrived in Israel Thursday morning in a renewed attempt to revive stagnated peace talks.

According to a statement issued by the prime minister's office, Ross, a senior adviser to U.S President Barack Obama, and Hale, deputy to Middle East Envoy George Mitchell, will be discussing Israel's security needs and the importance of maintaining the Israel Defense Forces' qualitative advantage during negotiations with the Palestinians and in any proposed peace deal.

Ross and Hale arrived a day after Arab nations submitted a draft resolution to the UN Security Council condemning Israeli settlements in the West Bank. A vote on the resolution is not expected any time soon because of a likely U.S. veto, diplomats said on Wednesday.

The point of the resolution, diplomats say, is to highlight Washington's isolated position on the Security Council, show the Palestinian population that the Palestinian Authority is taking action, and to pressure Israel and the United States on the settlement issue.

Council diplomats said privately that the 15-nation panel was unlikely to take any action on the draft resolution in the near future - if at all - because of the likely veto.

U.S. Middle East peace envoy George Mitchell meeting with Netanyahu in Jerusalem.

http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.317049.1295530572!/image/2244446376.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_295/2244446376.jpg
Intensive U.S. diplomatic efforts to revive direct peace talks between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas collapsed last year after Israel failed to extend a 10-month freeze on West Bank settlement construction.

Israel has repeatedly called for a resumption of direct negotiations with the Palestinians. But the Palestinians have refused to return to the negotiating table until Israel first agrees to halt settlement work.