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Nathaniel Heidenheimer
02-06-2009, 03:59 PM
Hi. I put the word research in quotes as a defensive measure against some who might accuse me of being Vernon Walters tease.:shot:

I am taking a grad class called Pakistan Islam and Army.

I thought I might ask my fellow citizens in the republic of curiosity what they think are the most pressing questions re Pakistan right now?

Any ideas on what might make an interesting term paper. This sounds a bit juvenile, but I am.:stupido:

I mean I know some here and there about Pakistan but I need to become focussed fast on an area of research that would be the most fun fast. I say fast, because I have only a limited time for general reading before I have to narrrow it down, owing to the fact that I am taking three grad classes while also taking care of my four and half month daughter Sonia, who just lost all her money in the Maddoff scandal.

Sos if anyone has an itching question or patch of consciousness they need filling in please let me know.

David Guyatt
02-06-2009, 04:42 PM
Nate, this is probably not suitable, but if it were me I would consider looking into the deep connections between Pakistani intelligence and organized crime as it relates to the US intelligence and organized crime in particular, but also western European variants of same.

But a lot of work would be involved I suspect.

Magda Hassan
02-06-2009, 11:46 PM
Not that I have any information to point you towards or any thing but I thought it might be interesting (and manageable) to find out the names of the feudal families. From that you could find out where they are located in the country, what tribe, how much land/villages they have, what they grow, their wealth, how many laborers dependent on them, what government positions they hold, who they are married to, etc. Voila! a sketch of the power relations of Pakistan. You can go any where from there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_families_of_Pakistan
http://www.paktribune.com/pforums/posts.php?t=2801&start=1
http://publicmb.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/arb-on-pakistans-ruling-elite/

Nathaniel Heidenheimer
02-09-2009, 04:37 AM
Just starting my reading, Know some stuff but its patchy. Was there BCCI stuff in Pakistan or am I imagining this? Probably some connection to the Mujhadin funding???

re: the aristocracy, these were apparently the biggest enemies of Bhuto's pop. who rulled from roughly 70-77 Much of the Pak feudal types had the strongest ties to the British surprise.

Bhuto 1, was involved in both disasterous wars with India in 65 and 71, but managed to shirk the blame and the discredited army let him keep the tent propped up for a while. Nationalized all kinds of stuff, considerably to the left of his daughter. What interests me is this is when Nixon kissinger made his Pakistan "Tilt" in 71? How weird that this author describes it as a time when Pop Bhuto was weakening ties with US and stregnthening them with China. And just at the moment when, Moorer Radford were listening in on Henry's trips to China. Perhaps the Nixon tilt was with the ISI behind the back of Bhuto 1?? Anyway I hope to find out.

Nathaniel Heidenheimer
02-09-2009, 04:39 AM
Just starting my reading, Know some stuff but its patchy. Was there BCCI stuff in Pakistan or am I imagining this? Probably some connection to the Mujhadin funding???

re: the aristocracy, these were apparently the biggest enemies of Bhuto's pop. who rulled from roughly 70-77 Much of the Pak feudal types had the strongest ties to the British surprise.

Bhuto 1, was involved in both disasterous wars with India in 65 and 71, but managed to shirk the blame and the discredited army let him keep the tent propped up for a while. Nationalized all kinds of stuff, considerably to the left of his daughter. What interests me is this is when Nixon kissinger made his Pakistan "Tilt" in 71? How weird that this author describes it as a time when Pop Bhuto was weakening ties with US and stregnthening them with China. And just at the moment when, Moorer Radford were listening in on Henry's trips to China. Perhaps the Nixon tilt was with the ISI behind the back of Bhuto 1?? Anyway I hope to find out.

David Guyatt
02-09-2009, 10:52 AM
BCCI was a Pakistani bank and there is a great deal in that story that harkens to the criminal, intelligence connections of that bank to western intelligence and governments. I understand from people who were involved in investigating it that much of hat happened has been covered up.

One thing that got out, however, was that BCCI ran it's own international "Murder Inc".

The subject's well worth reviewing imo.