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Greg Burnham
10-12-2011, 12:04 AM
The federal government of the United States has declared war on Medical Cannabis dispensaries for unknown reasons. The excuses they have cited to date lack foundation. Indeed, there is no justification for their behavior besides political motivations or ignorance based fear.


The proper authority to cite when contacting Washington regarding this issue is
the TENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. This is
significant because the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution are part of the
Bill of Rights and therefore cannot themselves be amended (changed or modified).
The items in the Bill of Rights were considered sacrosanct by the Founding
Fathers and were therefore written in stone.

THE TEXT of the TENTH AMENDMENT STATES:

Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to
the people.

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Since the power to regulate, prohibit, or control cannabis usage was 1) never
addressed directly or peripherally by the constitution; 2) was never delegated
to the federal government by the constitution; 3) nor was it prohibited from
the states by the constitution... --then and therefore the power to determine
the legal disposition of medical cannabis usage is CONSTITUTIONALLY reserved to
the STATES or to the PEOPLE. It is therefore UNconstitutional for the Federal
Government to disregard the wishes of the people, which was determined by a
VOTE, properly conducted, by the State of California, among others.


No matter whether or not one agrees with cannabis usage for medical reasons, the fact remains that the STATES are Constitutionally authorized to decide for themselves. The fact that the Federal Government is ignoring the Constitution on such a minor matter in the big scheme of things to the detriment of patients for whom it is NOT minor--OR FOR ANY REASON--is indicative of how far we have NOT come in reigning in their tentacles and chopping them off. Can you imagine the look of horror and outrage on the faces of and in the words of Thomas Paine and James Madison if they were alive today?


We all need to be vigilant on this. It is an outrage. It is an abuse of power. It is against our Constitution.

Keith Millea
10-12-2011, 01:40 AM
Even the US Supreme Court backs you up on this one Greg.It must be a political move.

May 18, 2009
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: media@aclu.org

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Supreme Court today declined to hear an appeal brought by San Diego and San Bernardino counties challenging the validity of California's medical marijuana laws. The Court's order leaves intact the rulings of California's state courts, holding that state medical marijuana laws are entirely valid despite the federal prohibition on marijuana.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which represented California medical marijuana patients in the proceedings, had urged the Court to decline the counties' challenge. The following may be attributed to Graham Boyd, Director of the ACLU Drug Law Reform Project:

"The Supreme Court's order marks a significant victory for medical marijuana patients and advocates nationwide. This case struck at the core of the contentious intersection between state and federal medical marijuana policy, and, once again, it is clear that state medical marijuana laws are fully valid. Coupled with the Department of Justice's recent pronouncements that the agency will respect state medical marijuana laws, the Court's order leaves ample room for states to move forward with enacting and implementing independent medical marijuana policies."

The ACLU's opposition brief to the Court can be found online
at: /drugpolicy/medmarijuana/39603lgl20090415.html (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/drugpolicy/medmarijuana/39603lgl20090415.html)

http://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/us-supreme-court-rejects-california-counties-challenge-state-medical-marijuana

Ed Jewett
10-12-2011, 03:16 AM
PBS documentary highlights marijuana's amazing ability to treat disease
Monday, October 10, 2011 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033829_marijuana_disease_treatment.html#ixzz1aWzP8 FrV

Keith Millea
11-05-2011, 04:17 PM
ASA v. Holder

ASA Sues Feds To Halt Anti-Pot Surge

by FRED GARDNER

“Keep your head down. Those feds are tough.”
—Former San Francisco District Attorney Terence Hallinan, to every cannabis cultivator and dispensary operator who sought his advice.


In 1996, California voters overcame a lifetime of War-on-Drugs propaganda and made marijuana legal for medical use. Today more than a million Californians have been authorized by MDs to medicate with cannabis, and certain cities and counties have passed ordinances to tax and regulate cultivation and distribution. Similar (but weaker) marijuana laws have been enacted in 15 states and Washington, D.C.

For many years the relationship between the federal government and the jurisdictions that decided to tax and regulate cannabis was essentially “don’t ask, don’t tell.” This discreet arrangement ended in the winter of 2010-11 when Oakland’s plan to license four huge indoor grows became national news. The U.S. Department of Justice warned Oakland officials that they faced criminal prosecution if they allowed the cultivation venture, and the city backed down. (Not fast enough for the city attorney, who left for safer pastures.) Since then, city and county officials up and down the state have been told by federal prosecutors that they risk prosecution themselves if they permit cannabis cultivation or distribution.

In 2011 the DOJ sent letters to officials in Arizona, Colorado, Montana, Rhode Island, Vermont, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Maine, and Washington threatening to prosecute those who implemented cultivation and distribution programs. The Washington legislature had recently passed a measure, supported by Gov. Christine Gregoire, that authorized dispensaries. After a warning from federal prosecutors, Gregoire decided to veto it.

California’s four U.S. Attorneys held a press conference Oct. 7 to threaten growers, dispensaries, and their landlords with long prison terms and forfeiture of their property. The prosecutors claimed they were going after “egregious” profiteers and violators of state (as well as federal) law. But less than a week later, an exemplary Mendocino County collective, Northstone Organics, was taken down by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

Northstone’s organizer, Matt Cohen, was growing 99 plants on his property in Redwood Valley, Mendocino County -each plant with a zip-tie around its stalk to indicate that it had been authorized and inspected by the sheriff’s office. Northstone’s 1,700 members in the Bay Area and Los Angeles had provided letters from physicians authorizing them to use cannabis as medicine. “If we’re not legal, nobody’s legal,” said Cohen. “We actually are a legitimate not-for-profit corporation. We worked with the county to get where we are.”

At 6 a.m. on Oct. 13 DEA agents stormed into the bedroom of Matt and Courtenay Cohen, yelling and brandishing automatic weapons. When the Cohens explained that their grow was in compliance with California law and Mendocino County ordinance 9.31, the feds scoffed and called the county program permitting cultivation “a sham.” The Cohens were handcuffed for eight hours while their house was ransacked and their plants chainsawed down and hauled off in a truck. The raid was a “smash-and-grab” -the Cohens were not arrested and it’s unlikely that they will be charged. The effects will be to deprive Northstone Organics’ members of high-quality, sungrown herb, and to make Mendocino growers question whether they want to pay for the protection of the sheriff next year. (The innovative program generated close to $300,000 for the county in 2011.) Northstone Organics -Matt Cohen’s sweet dream- is finished for the foreseeable future.

If the Drug Warriors only pursued blatant profiteers and violators of state law, the fully compliant non-profits would benefit and a regulated medical marijuana industry would thrive. They have to take down some righteous growers and distributors in order to scare others into folding -or at least not expanding. (No better example than the 2002 DEA raid on WAMM, a Santa Cruz garden grown mainly for hospice patients.)

A 10th Amendment Argument
The raid on Northstone Organics is cited in a suit that Americans for Safe Access filed in federal court Oct. 27 on behalf of ASA’s approximately 20,000 members in California “who are adversely affected by the federal government’s selective targeting of medical marijuana providers and its direct threats against California political subdivisions in an attempt to disrupt state law.”

One such patient is a 48-year-old chronic pain sufferer who first used marijuana while undergoing chemotherapy and now uses it to reduce his intake of morphine. This patient, “Due to a recent federal raid on Northstone Organics… lost his proportionate share of the medical marijuana cultivated by the cooperative and he will be impeded from obtaining his medicine because no other delivery service provides medical marijuana at the same low cost.”
The defendants are U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of California, Melinda Haag. ASA is seeking an injunction “requiring defendant to cease the unconstitutional behavior of the Department of Justice and requiring it to return the marijuana seized from Northstone Organics.”
ASA contends that California has a right under the 10th Amendment —”The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”— to regulate the practice of medicine. It follows that California can legalize the medical use of marijuana (defined by physician approval) while non-medical use remains a crime. The federal government has violated the 10th Amendment, ASA argues, by “seeking to coerce and commandeer the police power and legislative and executive functions of the state of California and its political subdivisions in regard to the implementation of the State’s medical marijuana laws.”

Eureka, Arcata, Chico, El Centro, and Sacramento are listed as California cities that have been “coerced by the federal government to change their local laws regarding medical marijuana.” The threat to Eureka was typical. The City Council received a letter Aug. 15 from Melinda Haag stating that the Department of Justice was “concerned about the City of Eureka’s creation of a licensing scheme that permits large-scale industrial marijuana cultivation, processing, and distribution… If the City of Eureka were to proceed, this office would consider injunctive actions, civil fines, criminal prosecution, and the forfeiture of any property used to facilitate a violation of the Controlled Substance Act.”

History Matters
“This federal policy of coercion began at the inception of California’s medical marijuana laws in 1996,” ADA’s suit asserts, referring to a series of emergency meetings chaired by Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey in the weeks after Prop 215 passed. It’s an important point —the federal position on medical marijuana has been consistently Prohibitionist.

The feds tried to dis-implement the new law by threatening to revoke the prescription-writing license of any doctor who approved marijuana use by patients. The threat was announced by McCaffrey at a well-publicized press conference on Dec. 30, 1996. Flanked by Attorney General Janet Reno and other Clinton Administration officials, the Drug Czar dismissed medical marijuana as “Cheech and Chong medicine” and ridiculed Tod Mikuriya’s claim that it alleviated a wide range of symptoms.

Within weeks, lawyers backed by Ethan Nadelmann (whose group was then called the Lindesmith Center) filed a suit, Conant v. McCaffrey, to enjoin the feds from carrying out their threat. UCSF’s Marcus Conant, MD, was a perfect lead plaintiff because of his work with AIDS patients. Tod Mikuriya, MD, was not included among the many co-plaintiffs, although it was Tod who had helped draft Prop 215 and whom McCaffrey had threatened by name.

In March ’97 a federal judge who had been appointed by Reagan, Fern Smith, granted Conant et al their injunction on free-speech grounds —the doctor-patient conversation is protected by the 1st Amendment. When the 9th Circuit Court of Appeal upheld the injunction, Judge Kozinski wrote in a concurring opinion that the federal policy of threatening physicians violated the 10th Amendment because it “deliberately undermines the state by incapacitating the mechanism the state has chosen for separating what is legal from what is illegal under state law.”

“A minor slight,” is how Tod described not being included in Conant. He was more dismayed by the reform leaders “pulling all their resources out of California to promote the master plan,” i.e., to pass medical marijuana laws, no matter how restrictive, state-by-state, until so many have been enacted that the federal government has to accede somehow. Tod called Prop 215 “a unique research opportunity” and thought the movement’s most important task was to document the safety and medical efficacy of cannabis —a job for clinicians and epidemiologists, not campaign consultants and media messengers.

Fred Gardner was District Attorney Hallinan’s public information officer, 2000-02. In 2003 he co-founded O’Shaughnessy’s with Tod Mikuriya, MD. He can be reached at fred@plebesite.com. (fred@plebesite.com)

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/04/asa-sues-feds-to-halt-anti-pot-surge/

Peter Lemkin
11-05-2011, 05:09 PM
On one level they just don't like the idea of 1] cheap and effective medicine that is not produced by BIG Pharma and 2] don't like people knowing that natural substances can act as medicines 3] anyone cutting into their drug dealing 4] that allowing medical M.J. might someday allow for its complete legalization. :nono: That the decriminalization of drugs may someday follow, emptying the prison-industrial complex and not controlling a sizable swath of the population. :shock:

Keith Millea
11-05-2011, 05:42 PM
Scientists have decoded the genome structure of the cannibis plant.Now,they are researching the many different properties (alcoloids etc)in order to produce new medicines.I guess this is good,but of course these meds will cost a fortune.What's that old saying?

Smoke em' if you got em'........Peace Out

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n152/KLM_010/smilies/smokinpeace.gif

Greg Burnham
11-05-2011, 09:00 PM
October 25, 2011

Dear Congresswoman Davis,

I am writing to urge you to sign a petition from Representative Sam Farr asking President Obama to end federal interference with state-sanctioned medical cannabis (marijuana) programs by rescheduling cannabis or by supporting the adoption of legislation that would achieve the same goal.

Earlier this month, California's four US Attorneys announced a major escalation in federal pressure against medical cannabis dispensaries and property owners in California. Despite the Obama Administration's promise not to circumvent state law, the US Attorneys stated that federal law "takes precedence over state law and applies regardless of the particular uses for which a dispensary is selling and distributing marijuana". Not only is that statement unconstitutional, it has led to new raids by the Drug Enforcement Administration, leaving thousands of patients without access to the medication they desperately need to treat the symptoms of cancer, HIV/AIDS, Multiple Sclerosis, chronic pain, and other serious conditions.

In reality, the states have the authority to pass legislation on items, including cannabis, that were not prohibited to them by the constitution. California passed such legislation 15 years ago. It is unconstitutional for the federal government to ignore the wishes of the people, particularly when those wishes were made clear through a properly conducted vote in 1996. The Department Of Justice is displaying a blatant disregard for the Bill of Rights, particularly the 10th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which states the Constitution's principle of federalism by providing that: “Powers not granted to the United States [Federal Government] nor prohibited to the states by the Constitution are reserved, respectively, to the states or the people.”

No matter what your personal stand on the specific issue of Medicinal Cannabis might be, it remains your responsibility, as my elected representative, to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

Please sign Representative Farr’s petition to President Obama to help protect safe access to medical cannabis in the sixteen states and the District of Columbia where it is already legal. By doing so, not only will you assist those in need of this medication, but you will also address a perhaps even larger illness: The unconstitutional Federal encroachment on States’ Rights, which is specifically prohibited by the only portion of the Constitution that is not itself subject to amendment, aka: The Bill of Rights, which includes the 10th Amendment.

Thank you in advance for acting in accordance with your sworn duty in this matter,

Gregory Burnham

Keith Millea
11-05-2011, 11:54 PM
Thank You Greg....

US Reps, CA AG Chide Feds on Medical Marijuana (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/chronicle/2011/nov/01/us_reps_ca_ag_chide_feds_medical)

by Phillip Smith (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/user/psmith), November 01, 2011, 01:24am, (Issue #707 (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/chronicle/707))

The unhappy reaction to the renewed federal offensive against medical marijuana growers and distributors continues to spread, with several members of Congress and California's attorney general among the latest to voice their displeasure.


http://stopthedrugwar.org/files/imagecache/300px/MMJ leaf and stethoscope KY ODCP_5.jpg
Since the Sacramento press conference last month where California's four US Attorneys announced a crackdown on the medical marijuana using heavy-handed raids on businesses in exemplary compliance with state and local laws and a wave of letters to dispensary landlords threaten property seizure or even criminal prosecution if they don't throw out their medical marijuana tenants, reaction among medical marijuana supporters, including elected officials, has been growing.

On Friday, nine members of Congress, led by Reps. Sam Farr (D-CA) and Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), sent a letter to President Obama (http://safeaccessnow.org/downloads/Obama_Letter_October_2011.pdf) expressing "concern with the recent activity by the Department of Justice against legitimate medical marijuana dispensaries in California that are operating legally under state law." The other congressional signers were Reps. Mike Thompson (D-CA), Jared Polis (D-CO), Pete Stark (D-CA), Steve Cohen (D-TN), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), and Bob Filner (D-CA).

Citing "aggressive SWAT-style federal raids in at least seven states," as well as threats directed at landlords and elected officials, the solons told the president such actions "directly interfere with California's 15-year-old medical cannabis law by eliminating safe access to medication for the state's thousands of medical marijuana patients."

The nine US representatives called on the president to reschedule marijuana as either a Schedule II or Schedule III drug with recognized medicinal uses, either by administrative action or by supporting legislation to achieve that end. A bill that would do just that, H.R. 1983 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1983:), the States' Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act, has already been filed, they helpfully pointed out.

More HERE
(http://stopthedrugwar.org/topics/drug_war_issues/marijuana_policy)
OMG...That old dinosaur Pete Stark is still around....:lol:

Peter Lemkin
11-06-2011, 06:57 AM
In the light of full disclosure, I tried it least once - but like Clinton I didn't inhale :mexican: :rofl: I also had a personal friend dying of AIDS-HIV and they took it, illegally, as the ONLY drug that helped them through the pain and lack of appetite of the last months of their life.

[I think the poll below underestimates the numbers, but....]

The Netherlands, with its permissive marijuana laws, may be known as the cannabis capital of the world. But a survey published this month in PLoS Medicine, a journal of the Public Library of Science, suggests that the Dutch don't actually experiment with pot as much as one would expect. Despite tougher drug policies in the U.S., Americans were twice as likely to have tried marijuana than the Dutch, according to the survey. In fact, Americans were more likely to have tried marijuana or cocaine than people in any of the 16 other countries, including France, Spain, South Africa, Mexico and Colombia, that the survey covered.

Researchers found that 42% of people surveyed in the U.S. had tried marijuana at least once, and 16% had tried cocaine. About 20% of residents surveyed in the Netherlands, by contrast, reported having tried pot; in Asian countries, such as Japan and China, marijuana use was virtually "non-existent," the study found. New Zealand was the only other country to claim roughly the same percentage of pot smokers as the U.S., but no other nation came close to the proportion of Americans who reported trying cocaine.

Albert Doyle
11-06-2011, 03:29 PM
Marijuana could be said to objectively lower math scores. (Not to back draconian federal action - just sayin')

Greg Burnham
11-06-2011, 05:29 PM
Marijuana could be said to objectively lower math scores. (Not to back draconian federal action - just sayin')

Ok, I can't simply allow that statement to stand unqualified, if not, unchallenged!

Are you saying that: If a person is high--any person--while they are being tested for aptitude in math, their score will be significantly lower than any person who is not high? Or are you saying that any use of marijuana--even use from the distant past--will cause a decrease in math scores although the person being tested is not high at the time of the test?

There are several issues here.

I certainly don't advocate the use of cannabis at the same time that a person is participating in any activity for which such use is contra-indicated. However, that is not the issue, Albert. Nobody is advocating a "Test with THC For Even Lower Scores in Math" Legislation.

The petition is simply asking Obama to support legislation that would re-schedule cannabis as a means to respect States' Rights in accordance with the 10th Amendment. The reason this is important is because, as an example, I imagine that getting high on morphine before a test is probably not going to contribute to higher math scores either. But, no one is suggesting that it be used on such an occasion. The fact is, morphine is scheduled in such a manner that it is not always a crime. It can be obtained for medicinal purposes by a physician's prescription to treat the symptoms of disease, most notably, pain. So too, cannabis should not be illegal on ALL occasions for ALL persons. That is absurd on its face. There are exceptions that make its use quite reasonable, responsible, and appropriate. Today, the federal government treats cannabis as if it will "curve your spine, make you grow hair on your palms, and cause the allies to lose the war!"*

*George Carlin

Albert Doyle
11-07-2011, 06:03 PM
Youths in their formative years will probably have lower math scores compared to a test group.

Greg Burnham
11-07-2011, 06:26 PM
Youths in their formative years will probably have lower math scores compared to a test group.

I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that: Young people in their formative years who are high while taking a math test will probably score lower than young people in a test group who are not high while taking the same test? I agree that that is probably true. It is probably true for other cross sections of the population, as well, including adults.

But, I'm not sure what exactly it is that you are pointing out here. Are you saying that performing certain tasks, such as, taking a math test while high on marijuana, is not advised? Or, are you saying, for example, that mild to moderate use, even from a year previous to a math test, will negatively impact math scores by youth in their formative years? If so, are their studies supporting your claim?

Let me be clear: I am not suggesting that anyone (youth in their formative years or otherwise) should use cannabis for non-medicinal purposes. I don't think anyone who has replied to this topic has made that suggestion because that is not what we are talking about.

Keith Millea
07-15-2012, 05:55 PM
Meanwhile,California,Oregon,and Washington State,all have ballot initiatives to legalize marijuana for personal use.Suck on that doobie OBUMMER.......

Published on Sunday, July 15, 2012 by the San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/Fed-s-misguided-pot-crackdown-3703739.php)

Fed's Misguided Pot Crackdown

San Francisco Chronicle Editorial

An overzealous federal crackdown on medical marijuana once again is ramping up in the Bay Area. It won't work, it's not wanted and raises questions about the federal government's law-enforcement priorities.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2796/4036392012_76dd9ea6d9.jpgAmericans for Safe Access protest in Los Angeles. (photo: NoHoDamon) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nohodamon/4036392012/)

The latest chapter is a civil forfeiture order posted this week on the front windows of two giant storefront operations run by Harborside Health Center in Oakland and San Jose.

Since October, more than 400 cannabis outlets across the state have closed after federal authorities sent threatening notices to operators and their landlords, marijuana advocates claim. Add to this the fact banks and credit card firms will no longer service marijuana clinics out of fear of legal trouble.

Right now, California - and the Bay Area especially - has a legal target painted on it. After signaling tolerance of medical-marijuana operations that comply with state laws, the Obama administration has moved to a broad legal attack featuring raids and litigation to shut down a medical business that voters authorized and the broad population continues to support.

No question, the state law approved by voters in 1996 leaves too much room for interpretation. Not all pot-selling operations are ethical, strictly run or concerned about a patient's health, the premise for allowing marijuana sales.

Grow operations have brought violence and crime as well as health hazards and fires. The free and easy rules for therapeutic use must be toughened.

Sacramento and local leaders, medical authorities and marijuana boosters have a duty to ameliorate these problems, a task that is taking too long. But this delay is no excuse for heavy-handed federal action that will punish patients and push pot sales back to the era of dark-alley sales.

This week's actions against Harborside point up the stakes in the dispute. U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag, in charge of the local crackdown, described the two Harborside operations as "marijuana superstores" where abuses of the state's law are magnified.

Harborside, which says it has 108,000 customers is indeed huge, possibly the biggest operation in the nation. It employs over 100 people, registers $30 million in sales, and pays $3 million in taxes, according to news reports. One state tax agency estimates California pot clinic levies bring in from $58 million to $105 million per year.

The scale - and widespread social acceptance - of medical marijuana make it plain that the drug isn't going away, especially after 16 years of operation, uncontested until the last year. Along with California, 16 states plus the District of Columbia, have similar medical marijuana laws.

Instead of acknowledging this reality, Washington has chosen legal combat, insisting that a federal ban on marijuana sales is the final word. It's the height of denial.
California deserves a chance to reform a humane but flawed law. It needs Washington's cooperation, not its overboard tactics.

© 2012 San Francisco Chronicle

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/07/15-3

Magda Hassan
07-16-2012, 07:09 AM
State rights. A good thing to having States. Some sanity at a local level at least. Though there look like some strange ones in places like Arizona and Texas and Tennessee. With out knowing the finer details.

Phil Dragoo
07-17-2012, 02:09 PM
Greg, you make a clear statement which prompts a clear response:

The federal government of the United States has declared war on Medical Cannabis dispensaries for unknown reasons. The excuses they have cited to date lack foundation. Indeed, there is no justification for their behavior besides political motivations or ignorance based fear.

In my view, the reasons are not unknown. They track with Peter's suggestion.

I submit on the basis of fact and belief:

USG insists upon the continued illegality of marijuana et pharma alia in the manner of the pusher insisting you buy your junk from him.

Hence Marshalltown is one of a myriad of endpoints for pure methedrine produced in Mexican labs from thousands of tons of Chinese precursors.

Zero and Holder arm the Sinaloa Cartel and eschew sanctions on China, but woe be unto the citizen taking up the test tube in his own hands.

Nixon's DEA in the Great Heroin Coup presented as a gambit to remove the Corsican competition from a consortium of USG assets.

A friend in Chicago had said as much. We have only to consider the beautiful friendship with Luciano who with Lansky and Trafficante paved the way.

And after all, Zero and Hillary were exercised about the four planes a day out of Honduras, not the "coup."

And we are shocked.

Or not.

Along with alcohol, tobacco, firearms, drugs, and calories, citizens will be profiled for carbon emissions and punished to the third generation.

How ironic that Choom Zero should be such a pig about it.

3877

Greg Burnham
07-22-2012, 06:11 PM
Good points all, Phil. I more properly should have written: for reasons "unsubstantiated" as opposed to reasons "unknown" in my post. Yet, even then the post would have fallen short of your broader perspective.

Bob Gaebler
09-23-2012, 09:05 PM
The reason hemp is a Schedule I CS, while crack, smack, crank, and George Zimmerman's Adderall are Schedule II Controlled Substances is Democrats and Republicans all the way back to Wilson but particularly FDR and company were trying to suppress alcohol and CO2-neutral biomass, while trying to look righteous and drug-conscious.

People have been deflecting, against CO2-neutral biomass and 25,000 market-leading hemp products, since a hemp processing machine was developed, in the 1930s, which gave rise to Andrew Mellon's and W.R. Hearst's media campaign, against hemp, surreptitiously for their timber and fossil fuel businesses, which led to passage of the Hemp Stamp Tax Act, in 1938, in 15 minutes, instantly signed, by FDR.

When the HSTA was declared unconstitutional, in 1972, two years after US peak oil, Nixon founded the DEA. When gas lines were long, President Carter said, on TV: "Maybe it's time we re-legalized marijuana." DO YOU THINK?! Corn is no way how to make stuff, including fuels. We also need switchgrass, pongamia trees, and ALGAE, but Henry Ford was making hemp ethanol and plastic, since the Model T came out, in 1908, at least.

Never forget! The drug laws are to generate profiteering media, for fascists, who distort all media, in favor of petroleum and invasive, legislated anti-morality and anti-ethics media.

Since the drug laws happened, all markets are too distorted, to simply function, given inflation of real estate and administration costs, which are rooted in corruption, to support an imposed anti-services sector.

Corruption has a carbon footprint, and failing to resource HEMP, for other than contraband amplifies carbon footprint media, severally. Of course, GIGO-math jockeys can't help but notice stoned people might not do math as well, while fascists co-opt the world's GDP.

Keith Millea
09-27-2012, 09:42 PM
Here you go folks!Still don't think this is a full blown Police/Military State?Coming to a neighborhood near you....be afraid,be very afraid.........:finger:

09.27.12 - 10:10 AM

(Well-Armed) Harvest Time

by Abby Zimet

A team of 150 combat-clad, flash-grenade-armed police officers and FBI agents swarmed a Northern California neighborhood in the area's largest-ever raid (http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20120926/ARTICLES/120929653/1033/news?Title=-It-was-going-to-happen-sooner-or-later-)against uniquitous backyard pot gardens, handcuffing residents up and down the street, even as feds raided medical marijuana dispensaries (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-medical-marijuana-20120926,0,2760642.story?track=rss) in L.A. as part of an ongoing crackdown. (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-09-26/feds-target-la-in-medical-marijuana-crackdown) Your tax dollars at work.

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/09/27


Authorities target pot grows in southwest Santa Rosa sweep

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=SR&Date=20120926&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=120929653&Ref=AR&Profile=1033&MaxW=445&border=0 Federal and local law enforcement officers swept house to house Wednesday in search of illegal marijuana gardens in a southwest Santa Rosa neighborhood.
BETH SCHLANKER/ PD


By RANDI ROSSMANN (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/personalia/RRossman) & CHRIS SMITH (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/personalia/CSmith)

THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

Published: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.
Last Modified: Thursday, September 27, 2012 at 7:19 a.m.


Dozens of combat-clad police officers, deputies and federal agents swarmed a southwest Santa Rosa neighborhood Wednesday morning in the region's largest-ever operation against residential marijuana gardens.

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A team of 150 law enforcement officers raided 32 homes off Moorland Avenue immediately south of the Corby Auto Mall, where the pungent smell of marijuana hung heavily in the air and backyard marijuana plants towered over fences in plain view from the street.

Law officials, who suspected gang involvement with at least some of the gardens, arrested 13 people on a variety of drug and weapons charges and seized more than 300 plants from 32 locations, said Sonoma County sheriff's Lt. Dennis O'Leary.

The raids began about 9 a.m. when FBI agents in full military gear ordered residents to leave, then rushed into their homes, most of them modest multi-plex units.

Soon the area was punctuated by the sounds of exploding flash grenades at several homes in the neighborhood, which is bordered by Highway 101 on the east and railroad tracks on the west.

After the homes were secured, officers carrying search warrants poured into backyards and uprooted hundreds of marijuana plants, piling the 6- to 8-foot-tall plants into giant heaps in driveways as neighbors watched.

The operation was planned after a recent complaint about rampant pot cultivation in the neighborhood, O'Leary said. A sheriff's helicopter surveyed the area and discovered more than two-dozen marijuana gardens in the backyards of homes along Barbara Drive, Eddy Drive, Robin Way and Neville Way.

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Greg Burnham
09-27-2012, 11:54 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/27/Ark-voters-to-decide-on-medical-marijuana/UPI-85351348778257/?spt=hs&or=tn

Phil Dragoo
09-28-2012, 10:12 PM
http://www.abc57.com/news/state-and-regional/Black-Hawk-helicopter-searching-for-marijuana-plants-gives-woman-a-scare-168390986.html

Now, had this woman in Indianpolis been the Sinaloa Cartel, she could have been given a pass and 2,000 weapons.

Had she been Los Zetas, she could have had immunity.

But she had to present as the competition to the government's drug business and that just isn't done.

Former Customs officer John Carman has related his own experience with Federal corruption and complicity.

One might point out no such show of armed force was brought to bear to prevent the hundred fifty armed with RPGs and mortars who killed our Ambassador to Libya.

One might also point out that Hopey-Changey was supposed to end this type of thing--as it is, if the woman makes a fuss, he can send a Predator with a Hellfire bearing her name and facial-recognition parameters.

Thank you for your cooperation, Citizen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE

Dawn Meredith
09-30-2012, 03:19 PM
Have people here looked at all the evidence online that hemp oil cures cancer and many other illnesses? This was first brought to my attention several years back when a friend in BC (British Columbia) asked me if I knew Rick Simpson. Yes I grew up with him in Springhill Nova Scotia and we were friedns. So she told me about his video Run From the Cure. Of course I watched it, then got his number online and called him. Talked for hours. I have since found so much more evidence of the medical wonders of hemp oil.

Since Obummer is tied in with Big Pharma perhaps this is really why this admin is cracking down on medical use.

Whatever the reason, this administration is more repressive than was Bush. Something I never thought possible.

If I could speak Spanish I'd seriously consider moving to Costa Rica. They abolished their military in 1948. Just imagine.

("All the people living life in peace...")

Dawn

Peter Lemkin
11-29-2012, 09:20 PM
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: We turn now to the look at the outcome of the historic votes in Colorado and Washington state to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. Even before this, 18 states and the District of Columbia allowed the medical use of marijuana. Now, many are asking whether the passage of these latest measures could be the beginning of the end for marijuana prohibition.

All of this comes as the federal government continues to consider marijuana an illegal drug, and the Obama administration has supported police crackdowns even on medical marijuana. Meanwhile, it has ignored studies that show the plant can be useful in treating everything from depression to cancerous tumors.

AMY GOODMAN: For more on what will happen now that Colorado and Washington have made history by legalizing marijuana for adult use, we’re joined by Martin Lee, longtime investigative reporter and author of several books, his most recent, the newly published Smoke Signals: A Social History of Marijuana—Medical, Recreational, and Scientific, and also wrote Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond.

Martin, thanks so much for being with us. He’s co-founder of FAIR, the national media watch group. In these last few minutes of the show—and then we’ll do part two right after the show—talk about the significance of what is happening in Colorado and Washington. Washington state, next Thursday, the law will go into effect.

MARTIN LEE: Well, the take-home message from the votes is significant. America woke up after the elections and looked itself in the mirror and realized two states had voted to legalize marijuana for adult use.

But there’s caveats in the proposition, the ballot measure that passed in Washington state, in particular, that are quite troubling. And it has to do with driving under the influence of drugs. There are stipulations in the ballot measure that’s passed that state that a person who has over a certain amount of metabolites, marijuana metabolites, in their body, can be charged with driving under the influence of drugs. The problem here is that the metabolites for marijuana can stay in the body for many weeks after one uses it. One can take a few puffs of a marijuana cigarette four to six weeks ago, and it’ll still turn up in a drug driving test. So I don’t know how this will hold up in a court of law. The science is very clear on this. The fact that metabolites are in the body is not an indication necessarily of one driving—has been driving impaired.

What’s most troubling of all, however, is for people under 21, drivers under 21 in the state of Washington, there’s a zero tolerance for any indication of marijuana use, so that if a person is pulled over, a 17-year-old driver, and is given a drug test and is found to have marijuana metabolites in their body, they can lose their license, and they could be severely penalized for having any level of the metabolites in their system. And the reason why that’s so troubling is because there’s been a long history of racist law enforcement patterns with respect to marijuana, not only in Washington state, but throughout the United States. And there’s really nothing in the law that would prevent the selective targeting of—particularly for black and Latino youth, for continuing for arrest and harassment by law enforcement. In fact, if anything, the new law might encourage that. And other—officials from other states are already saying that Washington may be a model for the law they’d like to see in their states for marijuana to be legalized. So this is troubling. If the past is any prologue for the future, there’s no reason to be—feel confident that these racist law enforcement patterns won’t continue. And that’s not to say that definitely will continue; it remains to be seen.

What we saw in California in 1996 after Californians passed a law legalizing medical marijuana, that law enforcement was essentially given a free hand to basically respond to Proposition 215 in the way they saw fit from county to county. So in certain areas, like San Francisco or Sacramento or—and particularly Santa Cruz, Oakland, they had more lenient policies. Law enforcement took a hands-off attitude. But in other counties, particularly in what we call "red state California," the rural counties, the law enforcement were very vicious with respect to medical marijuana usage after 19—after 215 was passed.

Jim Hackett II
06-28-2013, 12:42 PM
PHARMA vs. Reality

I have a few broken bones encountered in my life.
Some even experienced in service to this Nation.
I experience inflammation of these injuries decades after the injuries.
VA and PHARMA would give me drugs to stop the pain and inflammation.
I won't allow that shit into my body. It is mine not the AMA's.

Their drugs DO NOT relieve the discomfort and recover freedom of movement of a once fractured pelvis and etc.
Pot does enable me to move about in less discomfort and not be doped dumb by liver wrecking PHARMA products.
I'd rather be a healthy criminal than an unhealthy PHARMA victim.

That is the crust of the biscuit to me.

I must be a criminal to secure satisfactory relief from pain without nasty drugs I will not do.
Go PHARMA's way and be dumbed down by drugs that DO NOT work,
or be a criminal. EZ choice to me.

To me this is the obvious reason PHARMA and the US Government oppose the medical use of pot.
It threatens their money tap and threatens to expose the fallacy of PHARMA drugs as only available alternatives.
And OUR Government puts profits above WeThePeople again and shreds the Constitution AGAIN.
Just goes to to show Imperial Pigs are Pigs.

Peter Lemkin
06-28-2013, 02:34 PM
Here, where I live in Europe, grass is legal to own and buy in small quantities. Sellers are supposed to pay a tax and new licenses for growing it will soon be sold, with tax agreements attached. That said, few use it compared to where it is illegal. Many have tried it and it is no big deal for the young - no way to 'rebel'. Those that like it, continue. Those that don't, don't. If a policeman were to find you with some, as long as it isn't some HUGE commercial sum [they are still illegal], it would not lead to arrest. Medium size sums might be just 'removed' [so the Police can smoke it]. America is way too puritanical, and involved in profit uber alles! Prohibition of alcohol didn't work and prohibition of cannabis will not either. Grow up America. One of your largest soda companies for decades put cocaine in their drink! Etc. Drugs are made illegal to not compete with big Pharma; to leave the selling to the Big Boys and Intelligence Agencies, and to keep the prices high and the ghettos low. It is all part of the Big Lie...there is so little 'truth' and justice left in America it is pathetic. :canabis: If there is no victim, there is no crime. I guess the ultra-rich and those in Deep Political Power adjudge themselves the 'victims' when not in tyrannical control of everything. :joystick: