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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hackett II View Post
    SS 100X stop, SS agents piling out etc.
    I do recall hearing this as well as the issue of first reports of "automatic weapons fire".
    Thanks!
    Trauma can freeze things and details. Unthinkable was trauma.
    During a memorable private conversation, Hemming said to me that a former SS sniper -- "one of the Rat Line boys" -- was firing on full automatic from the TSBD northwest 6th floor window, and that his target was Connolly.

    I didn't buy it, and I told him so.

    "So who's selling it?" he asked with a smile.

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    I don't recall any witnesses saying they heard automatic fire from the SS, but several did recall seeing several of the SS men pull out from their cars or under their coats various automatic weapons. I think they just brandished them...wouldn't want to hurt anyone that day, now would they......

    Hemming was quite a 'piece of work', eh?! Problem was he knew a lot, but said so little one could trust as truth.
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    It is my personal opinion that H.L Hunt's family vault probably contains a first day copy of the Zapruder film!

    Hunt had an employee who i remember seeing quoted as stating something to the effect of " he was sent down to meet with Zapruder and purchase the copy he had in his possession late on the evening of Friday Nov 22nd. The employee went on to say "That he got to speak with Mr. Zapruder, watch the film and then paid $100,000 for the original copy that Mr. Zapruder had at his home that night.

    This employee's connection with Mr. Hunt had been varified by the author....sorry i cant remeber this individual's name....perhaps someone else remembers these statements and what source delivered them?

    AJB.

  4. Default The Hunt for Real Zapruder

    A.J.

    You may have been thinking of Noel Twyman, Bloody Treason, 1994, Chapter 12: Forgery of the Zapruder Film page 134

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    November 22, 1963 (evening) H. L. Hunt purchases "first copy" of film through his security guard, Paul Rothermel, Jr.

    Reference/Source: Russell, p. 581 (interview of Rothermel)

    The interview may be the one cited on July 12-13, 1976, author Russell with Rothermel at Hunt offices

    Twyman assuredly sources the 1992 edition while I have the 2003 which on 374 yields:

    But a pristine copy of the Zapruder film may still exist. In 1992, Paul Rothermel, Jr., a former chief aide to Dallas oil billionaire H. L. Hunt, told me an incredible story. Rothermel said he was dispatched by the Hunt family, in the late afternoon following the assassination, "with a substantial amount of money, to buy the original. I got the first copy, as far as I know."

    "Before Time-Life negotiated for theirs?" I asked. "Yeah," Rothermel said.

    "Why?" I persisted. "Why did the Hunts so badly want this film?"

    "Well," Rothermel replied, "it was pretty hard to believe that, with as little moxie as Oswald had, he did it all by himself. There was a lot of speculation about how all this happened, who was really behind it. I think certain people wanted to find out who did it."


    Russell sources:

    Rothermel on Hunt purchase of film: author's telephone interview (May 15, 1992)

    So, Twyman in 1997 reports Russell in 1992 interviewed Rothermel who says he was there, and bought "the first copy, as far as I know."

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. Blocker View Post
    It is my personal opinion that H.L Hunt's family vault probably contains a first day copy of the Zapruder film!

    Hunt had an employee who i remember seeing quoted as stating something to the effect of " he was sent down to meet with Zapruder and purchase the copy he had in his possession late on the evening of Friday Nov 22nd. The employee went on to say "That he got to speak with Mr. Zapruder, watch the film and then paid $100,000 for the original copy that Mr. Zapruder had at his home that night.

    This employee's connection with Mr. Hunt had been varified by the author....sorry i cant remeber this individual's name....perhaps someone else remembers these statements and what source delivered them?

    AJB.
    Hunt stands as a False Sponsor. In terms of an undoctored film of the assassination, Hunt's "family vault" likely is as empty JFK's cranial vault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Drago View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. Blocker View Post
    It is my personal opinion that H.L Hunt's family vault probably contains a first day copy of the Zapruder film!

    Hunt had an employee who i remember seeing quoted as stating something to the effect of " he was sent down to meet with Zapruder and purchase the copy he had in his possession late on the evening of Friday Nov 22nd. The employee went on to say "That he got to speak with Mr. Zapruder, watch the film and then paid $100,000 for the original copy that Mr. Zapruder had at his home that night.

    This employee's connection with Mr. Hunt had been varified by the author....sorry i cant remeber this individual's name....perhaps someone else remembers these statements and what source delivered them?

    AJB.
    Hunt stands as a False Sponsor. In terms of an undoctored film of the assassination, Hunt's "family vault" likely is as empty JFK's cranial vault.
    Just curious. At the time Hunt was one of the wealthiest men in the world. Why would you consider him a false sponsor? Wouldn't the sponsor group be comprised of the wealthiest men in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Gray View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Drago View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. Blocker View Post
    It is my personal opinion that H.L Hunt's family vault probably contains a first day copy of the Zapruder film!

    Hunt had an employee who i remember seeing quoted as stating something to the effect of " he was sent down to meet with Zapruder and purchase the copy he had in his possession late on the evening of Friday Nov 22nd. The employee went on to say "That he got to speak with Mr. Zapruder, watch the film and then paid $100,000 for the original copy that Mr. Zapruder had at his home that night.

    This employee's connection with Mr. Hunt had been varified by the author....sorry i cant remeber this individual's name....perhaps someone else remembers these statements and what source delivered them?

    AJB.
    Hunt stands as a False Sponsor. In terms of an undoctored film of the assassination, Hunt's "family vault" likely is as empty JFK's cranial vault.
    Just curious. At the time Hunt was one of the wealthiest men in the world. Why would you consider him a false sponsor? Wouldn't the sponsor group be comprised of the wealthiest men in the world?
    Speaking for myself, I would rule out ANYONE who "has a known name" -- If they do not enjoy the awesome benefit of compete anonymity, they are below the sponsor level by definition.
    GO_SECURE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Gray View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Drago View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. Blocker View Post
    It is my personal opinion that H.L Hunt's family vault probably contains a first day copy of the Zapruder film!

    Hunt had an employee who i remember seeing quoted as stating something to the effect of " he was sent down to meet with Zapruder and purchase the copy he had in his possession late on the evening of Friday Nov 22nd. The employee went on to say "That he got to speak with Mr. Zapruder, watch the film and then paid $100,000 for the original copy that Mr. Zapruder had at his home that night.

    This employee's connection with Mr. Hunt had been varified by the author....sorry i cant remeber this individual's name....perhaps someone else remembers these statements and what source delivered them?

    AJB.
    Hunt stands as a False Sponsor. In terms of an undoctored film of the assassination, Hunt's "family vault" likely is as empty JFK's cranial vault.
    Just curious. At the time Hunt was one of the wealthiest men in the world. Why would you consider him a false sponsor? Wouldn't the sponsor group be comprised of the wealthiest men in the world?
    Personally I'd be looking at the most powerful. Not the most well known or wealthy. Necessarily.
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    Thank you Phil, that was the info i had seen before and filed away in the corners of my mind.

    Wouldn't JFK's policy changes regarding the oil depletion tax, have been a major reason someone like H.L Hunt had motive to become a sponsor or even a facilitator?

    Someone like H.L Hunt had profile in the community yes, but i'm sure he was very adept at avoiding blow back due to his years of business experience and the art of delegating tasks to underlings.

    AJB

  10. Default Six degrees of Clint Murchison's party

    Charles

    Would it be perfect if Geraldo Rivera timed his Mystery of H.L. Hunt's Vault for the 50th anniversary November 22, a real Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle, no cat, no cradle.

    The purpose of the false sponsors is to distract from the search for the real sponsors; false sponsors are rodeo clowns.

    Viewing the assassination of the inconvenient 35th president as but one event in the long business day--say, from the alarm clock with the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank to the last nightcap as the cabal plots the plunder of resources and the hypnotic gestures to cloud men's minds from Kandahar to Kyrgyzstan--the sponsors cannot have been anyone so public and provincial as the founder of the International Committee for the Defence of Christian Culture--

    The sponsors, that would be the cabal which predates and outlives any single member, would be parties "above national, religious, or political differences" in the model of George Michael Evica as articulated by Charles Drago, and certainly alluded to or tacitly implied by L. Fletcher Prouty and Peter Dale Scott.

    Greg indicates anonymity is a touchstone--if known, then not.

    Looking at Peter Levenda presenting Allen Dulles intuitively aiding and abetting fugitive Nazis as allies in the fight against Soviet Communism, we compare the standard explanation (Christian capitalism versus atheistic "communism", read as control economy, with individual liberty versus suppression under authoritarianism) to a simple "my clients versus these competitors" and it fits the "trading with the enemy" so much better.

    CIA as sword and shield of a certain set of clients; KGB, another--and in a larger sense, CIA and KGB against the people--for it is and always has been the power against the people (substitute another preposition, power over the people).

    So H.L. Hunt is another terra cotta warrior, along with Hoover, Johnson, Nixon--and probaby Bush (pick a Bush, any Bush).

    Going up the pyramid, the eye-level is invisible, sees but is not seen. So, might as well be god, or demi-god.

    Rothermel in 1992 has outlived his principal by eighteen years, outlived Zapruder, isn't likely to be contradicted.

    We may be assured that there is not in any civilian keeping any evidence dangerous to the official story.

    Hunt died the year Nixon resigned, after Johnson's heart attack, after Hoover's heart attack, followed in death by

    Sam Giancana of lead poisoning after Jimmy Hoffa was applied to the walls of a Chicago house

    before John "Colonel" Rosselli was canned, before George DeMohrenschildt and Charles Niccoletti and William Sullivan got lead poisoning

    and yet the files remain sealed, the towers came down, and by hook or by crook, it's on to Syria

    or is it Iran

    See you at Murchison's party

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