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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Jarman View Post
    Holmes - who had been working towards his PhD for a year before dropping out - had one techno song blaring from his stereo in the hours before the massacre and left the music on repeat in his booby-trapped apartment as he departed to commit the massacre.

    Shooter James Holmes, 24, dropped out from neuroscience PhD at University of Colorado in June

    Student debt burden? Some are big enough to send people crazy.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Jarman View Post
    Holmes - who had been working towards his PhD for a year before dropping out - had one techno song blaring from his stereo in the hours before the massacre and left the music on repeat in his booby-trapped apartment as he departed to commit the massacre.

    Shooter James Holmes, 24, dropped out from neuroscience PhD at University of Colorado in June






    Student debt burden? Some are big enough to send people crazy.
    Yes....But!.....four weapons; 6000 rounds of ammunition, body armor and a booby-trap bomb don't come cheap either....if so, he spend the last of his loan on all that. He didn't go to the loan office and shoot them. I think the playing computer games [like Breivik] plus some unknown factor[s] are involved here.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    White Watch: White terrorist kills 12, injures dozens more in rampage at "Batman" premiere in Colorado, in largest mass shooting
    White terrorist kills 12, injures dozens more in rampage at "Batman" premiere in Colorado, in largest mass shooting

    And a PhD level terrorist at that. When will whites start calling it white terrorism?








    Profile: This image is said to depict James Holmes, who allegedly launched an attack on a cinema during a screening of The Dark Knight Rises and claimed to be 'The Joker', played by Heath Ledger (right)



    Investigation: Police are looking into the profile to find out if it is indeed Holmes and whether it can shed any light on his alleged crimes on Thursday night

    Profile: The user 'ClassicJimbo' says he is single and looking for 'a fling or casual sex'



    Updated at 9:44 p.m. ET: A graduate student's attack in a crowded theater showing the premiere of the latest Batman movie near Denver early Friday, killing 12 people, was the culmination of two months of meticulous planning that included a potentially deadly booby trap left in his home for investigators, authorities said.
    Fifty-eight other people were injured, many of them seriously, in the shootings shortly after midnight at the Century 16 Movie Theaters complex in Aurora, Colo. Earlier reports had said 59 people were injured, but police revised that number at a news conference Friday night. All but a small handful of the injured had been shot, Police Chief Dan Oates said.
    Thirty people remained in area hospitals Friday night, 11 of them in critical condition, after a carefully orchestrated attack in which the suspect, identified as James Eagan Holmes, 24, bought all of his weapons and ammunition legally beginning in May.
    Federal and local enforcement officials said he was sheathed in a helmet, a gas mask, a tactical bulletproof vest, throat and groin protectors and tactical gloves. All of the gear was black.
    Holmes — who told police after his arrest that he was the Joker, a federal law enforcement official told NBC News — was armed with two .40-caliber Glock handguns, a Remington 870 single-barrel pump shotgun, a Smith & Wesson AR-15 assault-style rifle and as many as 6,000 rounds of ammunition, Oates said.
    The scene also appeared to have been specially targeted for maximum carnage — the local premiere of one of the most eagerly awaited movies of the year, "The Dark Knight Rises," the third in the series of director Christopher Nolan's Batman films.
    In a statement, Nolan expressed "profound sorrow at the senseless tragedy that has befallen the entire Aurora community."
    Colorado shooting suspect James Eagan Holmes booby-trapped his apartment with wires and incendiary devices. NBC News' Pete Williams reports.

    After he was arrested outside the theater, Holmes told police that he was the Joker, a reference to one of the most prominent villains in the Batman canon, a law enforcement official told NBC News on condition of anonymity. (The official said the suspect had dyed his hair red or orange, which isn't typically associated with the green-haired Joker character, who doesn't appear in "The Dark Knight Rises.")
    Aurora police said Holmes also booby-trapped his apartment with an elaborate network of wire-connected bottles containing an unknown liquid, presumably intended to go off when authorities arrived to canvass his home.
    Holmes told police about the trap before they arrived, however, and investigators hadn't entered the apartment Frida night. They were analyzing gases and examining photographs of the scene to figure out how to deal with the materials and had decided to defer any action until Saturday at the earliest, Oates said.

    "It's not something I've ever seen before," said Oates, who said that the area was evacuated and that police were expected to remain on the scene "for hours or days."
    Holmes, a graduate student from San Diego who was in the process of withdrawing from the neuroscience program at University of Colorado-Denver medical school, put up no resistance when he was arrested in a parking lot at the theater, police said. He retained legal counsel and wasn't answering investigators' questions, they said.
    "We are confident he acted alone," Oates said of Holmes, who was scheduled to appear in Arapahoe County District Court on Monday morning to face unspecified charges. Authorities refused to speculate on his possible motive.
    One of those killed was Jessica Ghawi, a sportswriter who survived a June 2 mass shooting at a mall in Toronto in which two people were killed and seven others were injured. Ghawi blogged under the name Jessica Redfield.
    Defense officials told NBC News that a sailor at Buckley Air Force Base in Aurora was missing and presumed to have been killed. A second sailor and two airmen from Buckley were also shot. Their identities and conditions weren't available.
    Authorities said the gunman appeared at the front of the theater at 12:39 a.m., about 20 minutes into the film, and released two canisters of gas. Witnesses told reporters that the gunfire erupted during a shootout scene. Authorities responded within a minute and a half, Oates said.
    'Mass chaos'
    "It was mass chaos," witness Jennifer Seeger told TODAY. The gunman shot the ceiling and then "he threw in the gas can, and then I knew it was real."
    Witnesses said the gunman entered the theater at Aurora Town Center through an emergency exit door. But a federal law enforcement official told The Associated Press that the suspect bought a ticket and went in as part of the crowd. He is believed to have propped open an exit door as the movie was playing, the official said.


    Aurora is a suburb less than 10 miles east of downtown Denver and just 15 miles northeast of Littleton, scene what had been the worst mass shooting in Colorado: the Columbine High School massacre on April 20, 1999, when two gunmen killed 12 fellow students and a teacher and wounded 26 other people before killing themselves.
    Three of the suspect's four weapons were found in his white Hyundai parked at the back entrance to the theater; one of the handguns was found in the theater.
    Law enforcement officials told NBC News that the weapons were legally bought from local stores of two national chains — Gander Mountain Guns and Bass Pro Shop — beginning in May.
    Oates didn't say what kind of magazines were used, but he said "many, many rounds were fired." Some rounds penetrated an adjoining theater and injured at least one person, he said.
    http://whitewatch.info/2012/07/20/wh...-.aspx?ref=rss


    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Good find. White American Presbyterian upper-middle-class PHD Terrorists - the new threat - be afraid!...very afraid...they are in your community too!:darthvader:
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    2006 Westview High School yearbook photo of Jimmy Holmes




    I wonder what studies James Eagan Holmes, neuroscience student, volunteered for at the University of Colorado?


    I wonder if any of these possible experiments were funded by the DOD?


    I wonder how much the gross for "The Dark Knight Rises." will increase as a result of this massacre?


    The killer's father, Robert Holmes, worked for a spooky company from 2000 to 2002, HNC Software:


    "But perhaps the most exciting frontier awaiting exploration and commercial development by HNC is in an area that scientists still know very little about: the human brain. HNC is working on a long-term research project launched in 1998 that is jointly funded by HNC and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), part of the U.S. Defense Department, to investigate ‘cortronic neural networks,’ a concept originally proposed by Robert Hecht-Nielsen, HNC’s co-founder and chief scientist." HNC Software, 1999 profile, found at Cryptogon blog.


    Robert Holmes is now employed as lead scientist by the Fair Isaac Company, (FICO) a credit score company. Being lead scientist for a credit score company would make Robert an asset to any intelligence bureau of the government. So far I can find no work history for Robert Holmes before 2000. He got his last degree in 1981.

    The conspiracy theories have begun, and for good reason. .....




    Billy Kromka, a pre-med student at the University of Colorado, Boulder, worked with Mr. Holmes for three months last summer as a research assistant in a lab of at the Anschutz Medical Campus. Mr. Kromka said he was surprised to learn Mr. Holmes was the shooting suspect. "It was just shocking, because there was no way I thought he could have the capacity to do commit an atrocity like this," he said. -The New York Times quoted inNaturalnews.com

    Yet Jim's mother does not seem to be surprised.


    "You have the right person." - Holmes mother when asked about the reports of her son being involved in the massacre.

    Jimmy's AFF profile. "Will you visit me in prison?"


    James Holmes was called "Little Jimmy" when he was a child.

    I am surprised they haven't developed some kind of antisocial mythology for Little Jimmy Holmes by now.



    "We are confident he acted alone." - A very assured Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates, who began his law enforcement career as a New York City beat cop. I would wonder where a suspect got the money to outfit himself and booby trap his apartment with tens of thousands of dollars of gear.
    http://johnnyb93.blogspot.com.au/201...eday-2006.html
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Where Did Robert Holmes, Father of James Holmes, Work Before 2000?I would be interested in knowing where Robert Milton Holmes, the father of James Holmes, worked before 2000. If anyone has this information, please send it to me.On his Linkedin profile Robert Holmes lists a University of California, Berkeley Ph.D. in Statistics from 1981. He currently works for FICO, but also lists working for HNC Software from 2000 to 2002. (HNC Software was acquired by FICO.)We have a DARPA link in HNC Software.This is from a 1999 company profile for HNC Software:
    HNC Software Inc. is San Diego’s largest software company and develops predictive software solutions for business-to-consumer service companies. These solutions allow companies to make more intelligent and profitable decisions and are marketed to industries- including financial, insurance, retail, telecommunications and the Internet.
    Like many San Diego-based software companies, HNC Software Inc. traces its origins to the defense industry. When the company was launched in 1986, it focused on defense-related research and development. But over the years as defense budgets shrank not only in San Diego, but nationwide, HNC quickly realized that in order to succeed and grow, other commercial applications had to be found for its products.

    But perhaps the most exciting frontier awaiting exploration and commercial development by HNC is in an area that scientists still know very little about: the human brain. HNC is working on a long-term research project launched in 1998 that is jointly funded by HNC and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), part of the U.S. Defense Department, to investigate ‘cortronic neural networks,’ a concept originally proposed by Robert Hecht-Nielsen, HNC’s co-founder and chief scientist.
    HNC hopes to develop new capabilities in the areas of textual, aural and visual representation, and to actually build three new predictive, neural-net based systems: one that reads, interprets and searches text more effectively; a second recognizing speech and other sounds, enabling users to perform audio searches; and a third that can scan for and interpret images. The ultimate goal is to integrate all three systems. The net result – machines that someday might be able to reason like humans.
    “This is the most important scientific challenge of our time, and finding the answer will be the adventure of the millennium,” says Hecht-Nielsen.
    James Holmes: Accused Colorado Shooter Is Grandson of Decorated Veteran, Has Mamily Roots in Monterey CountyVia: Contra Costa Times:James Holmes, the man believed responsible for killing 12 people Friday during one of the largest mass shooting in U.S. history, is the grandson of a decorated military veteran who was a respected educator at prestigious York School in Monterey.
    Lt. Col. Robert M. Holmes, who served in the Okinawa campaign during World War II, retired in 1963 as the last commander of the Nike missile group in San Francisco Bay. He was one of the first Turkish language students at the Army Language School, now the Defense Language Institute, graduating in 1948, a school spokesman confirmed Friday.
    After his military retirement, Holmes taught math and science at York School for 17 years. He died in 1990. His wife, Mary Jane Crawford Holmes, attended Stanford University and worked at the Monterey City Library, Fort Ord Library and Pacific Grove High School before finishing her career as librarian and college counselor at York School. She died in 2010.
    A 1945 graduate of Pacific Grove High School, she was also a member of numerous historical societies, including the Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, Descendants of the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company of Boston and the Monterey Bay Colony of Mayflower Descendants, of which she served as governor.
    Their personal histories, taken from their obituaries in The Monterey County Herald, are difficult to reconcile with the most indelible image of their 24-year-old grandson.Research Credit: TR
    http://cryptogon.com/?p=30455
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Very interesting leads Magda...I think we now start to focus in on 'things'...yet I find it hard to believe a father would allow his son to intentionally be the subject of ongoing experiments...but some of his co-workers may not have....

    HNC initially offered training in neural network technology, as well as neural network software and hardware tools for users who wished to design and build their own application software.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Why does some one who wants to be The Joker dye their hair red when The Joker has green hair? Maybe a unique form of psychotic colour blindness?
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    It is too early to tell if his father had contacts within some of the MANY spooky [in all sense of the word] companies in San Diego. Having lived there and having come nearly to the end of my life there twenty years ago for work on the JFK assassination and related deep political research, I can attest to the intelligence presence in business, politics, the Courts, Police and general population. It a pysically beautiful, but mostly Reicht-wing city, with only a few progressive pockets. A whole research area in Torrey Pines mostly does classified research - but there are other areas too. The SEALS do what they do and mind control on their own there.....other special ops people work out of there and Tosh showed me more than one intelligence safe house posing as a 'surfers-hangout' along the shoreline. As I said far earlier in this thread, nothing 'adds up' about this person and the crime....unless his mind was tampered with in some way....now it could be the general sickness in US society or it could be more sinister and directed. I don't have enough information yet...but get an uneasy feeling from the get-go, that is growing........
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Buying all those weapons and ammunitions online would have no-doubt alerted the authorities to this guy.I guess they are just too busy sifting through all of our e-mail messages to worry about this though....:pirate:
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

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