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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Johnson View Post
    I also have read about Prigogine and know that you can't step in the same river twice.
    Ed, you are proof that you can step in the same shit pile twice when it has stuck to your shoes.
    Obviously, you haven't understood what the proverb or Prigogine were talking about, as it is impossible to do so. Furthermore, it's apparent that you don't get the point (spiritually or in terms of quantum physics, or as expressed in several spiritual disciplines, or in at least two books by Alan Watts) that we are all part of the same shit pile.

    If I stink, you smell too.

    So start turning the place into a world of fragrant blossoms, or shine your own little pile.
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    Wednesday, August 1, 2012

    What To Expect When Martial Law Is Declared

    Guest Post by Timothy K. Perry


    After the coming economic financial collapse, a state of world-wide martial law will be declared. Considering the current events which are in direct alignment with documented plans for totalitarian one-world government, (white paper plans published by the Tri-Lateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, and Club of Rome), martial law will be imposed without official dissent upon the various countries of the world. Martial law is military rule imposed upon civilian populations in a time of war or during a (sic) “State of Emergency”. The following elements can be expected to occur once the t.v. news anchors tell people not to panic, but that a State of Emergency has been declared due to the crash, and a (sic) temporary state of martial law has been declared, which will be rescinded once the State of Emergency has passed.
    What the news people won’t tell you is that given the history of martial law, the suspension of such a draconian state is far more difficult to achieve than its original imposition.

    Esteemed reader, ask yourself the question, why dictator or group of dictators ever voluntarily relinquished their dictatorial powers? I’m searching really hard through the history files of the world to find out the handful of amazing people who did so. So far, all I can find is George Washington who declined being elected “King”.
    Whenever the “Powers That Be” decide to impose martial law, the following items can be expected:

    1. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE ENDED-Under martial law, the U.S. Constitution is suspended and the citizens immediately lose all the protections, safeguards, and human rights guaranteed by that document. The citizens also lose every rights and privileges granted under The Bill of Rights. The constitutions of other countries will likewise be suspended with similar conditions imposed upon the citizens of those other countries.

    2. CURFEW ENFORCEMENT-Anyone caught outside after curfew can be shot dead. There are no exceptions for personal emergencies unless of course, these people have some sort of official written permission or are in possession of other material which gives them a “Get Out Of Jail Free” card.

    3. WRIT OF HABEUS CORPUS SUSPENDED-This means that soldiers can bust into your house, or arrest you on the street without warrants, and can throw you into prison without explanation or access to legal counsel. They can hold you there for months, even years, since there are no time limits imposed on how long you can be imprisoned.

    4. PERSONAL FIREARMS WILL BE SEIZED-Armed forces can invade your home and force you to surrender any weapons you have, regardless of your constitutional right or need to bear arms for your self-defense. If you refuse, you could be shot dead in your living room, and all your possessions seized. If you’re lucky, you might just get Tasered, or butt-ended with an AK-47, to eventually wake up in a Federal Emergency Management Agency (F.E.M.A.) Detention Center with a Prison Identification Number which you will go by as a “name” instead of your old name, the one on your birth certificate.

    5. PERSONAL PROPERTY CAN BE SEIZED-This means that under the excuse of “requisitioning”, soldiers can kick you out of your home, and seize both your home, all the contents inside that home, as well as any vehicles, or other items you have on your grounds. They also can claim the actual real estate of the acreage as well. If you refuse or resist in some way well….I guess you can fill in the blanks or use your imagination.



    The following list of Executive Orders have already been signed by past U.S. presidents are in effect immediately upon declaration of a national State of Emergency or Martial Law:

    Executive Order 10995: All communications media will be taken over by federal authority: radio, television, websites, newspapers, even CB and Ham radio systems. Freedom of expression, otherwise known as the First Amendment will be canceled until further notice.

    Executive Order 10997: All fossil fuels, related substances as well as all electrical power, both corporate as well as privately owned devices and generators will be seized by the federal government.

    Executive Order 10998: All food, means to produce such food and related products and machinery, warehouses and collectives which obviously include corporate and private farms will be seized by the government. You will not be allowed to hoard food since this is regulated. If you are caught hoarding food, you could be shot dead, or perhaps you will be lucky enough to be Tasered, knocked to the ground, sent to a FEMA camp and be immediately classified as a “domestic terrorist”, otherwise known as an “Enemy of the State”.

    Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will be placed under complete government control. Any vehicle can be seized.

    Executive Order 11000: All civilians will be drafted into forced labor which the t.v. anchors will euphemistically call “volunteer labor” at a variety of designated work places or camps under federal supervision. Go watch old film reels of the slave labor images under Nazi prison camps, or if you prefer, go watch a copy of Cool Hand Luke with Paul Newman, to get a more modern updated “American flavor” of what it’s like to be part of a slave labor chain gang. Of course, you must always remember, that if you go against the Boss, you will be accused of “A Failure To Communicate.”

    Executive Order 11490: Absolute dictatorial “presidential” control will be exercised over all US citizens, business as well as church institutions during a State of Emergency where martial law is declared necessary.

    Executive Order 12919: At the direction of the president, this Executive Order allows various Cabinet officials to take over all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency.

    Executive Order 13010: This Executive Order allows FEMA to take control over all other government agencies.

    Executive Order 12656: “ASSIGNMENT OF EMERGENCY

    PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES -This order allows for the declaration of a State of Emergency during natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergencies that seriously threaten the national security of the United States. This order allows for total, unquestioned federal takeover of every local police enforcement agencies, as well as local price fixing and wages. It also forbids reassignment of personal financial assets within or outside of the United States.
    All in all, it makes me wish I was born several hundred years in the future, because by then, we will be genetically designed to obey without question, with no personal will or identity of our own. So in that case, we won’t know what we’ve lost, because all the history books, or shall I say history “discs” will have been rewritten.
    Hopefully, this game plan will be abandoned, and the planned scenario will never happen to us, even though plans have been written for just such a scenario. Hopefully, the decision will be made to abandon this plan and revitalize the world economy without dramatic incident so such draconian methods are not necessary to unite all countries under the one world globalist banner. I don’t think anyone is going to resist the transition to a one world police state anyway. Most people just want to be able to pay their bills and get by, and enjoy what little free time they have, no matter what group is ruling. After all, this transition is already being achieved as we speak.

    NDAA National Defense Authorization Act

    The most controversial provisions to receive wide attention were contained in Title X, Subtitle D, entitled "Counter-Terrorism." In particular, sub-sections 1021 and 1022, which deal with detention of persons the government suspects of involvement in what the government defines as being "terrorism". The controversy was to their legal meaning and potential implications for abuse of Presidential authority. Although the White House and Senate sponsorsmaintain that the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) already grants presidential authority for indefinite detention, the Act states that Congress "affirms" this authority and makes specific provisions as to the exercise of that authority. The detention provisions of the Act have received critical attention by, among others, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, and some media sources which are concerned about the scope of the President's authority, including contentions that those whom they claim may be held indefinitely with charge or trial could include U.S. citizens arrested on American soil, including arrests by members of the Armed Forces.
    The bill passed the House 283 to 136 and signed by Barack Obama on New Years Eve 2011, while the rest of us were distracted celebrating the New Year festivities.

    Executive Order -National Defense Resources Preparedness

    The NDRP exploits the “authority” granted to the President in the Defense Production Act of 1950 in order to assert that virtually every means of human survival is now available for confiscation and control by the President via his and his Secretaries’ whim. It basically says that the Governmnet can take what it wants from anyone by any means if it is necessary for national security.

    If you didn't think it could happen here think again.

    Wake someone up and share this article.

    http://www.newamerica-now.blogspot.com/2012/08/what-to-expect-when-martial-law-is.html
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    Monday, August 13, 2012

    Are The Government And The Big Banks Quietly Preparing For An Imminent Financial Collapse?


    Guest Post by Michael Snyder

    Something really strange appears to be happening. All over the globe, governments and big banks are acting as if they are anticipating an imminent financial collapse. Unfortunately, we are not privy to the quiet conversations that are taking place in corporate boardrooms and in the halls of power in places such as Washington D.C. and London, so all we can do is try to make sense of all the clues that are all around us. Of course it is completely possible to misinterpret these clues, but sticking our heads in the sand is not going to do any good either. Last week, it was revealed that the U.S. government has been secretly directing five of the biggest banks in America "to develop plans for staving off collapse" for the last two years. By itself, that wouldn't be that big of a deal. But when you add that piece to the dozens of other clues of imminent financial collapse, a very troubling picture begins to emerge. Over the past 12 months, hundreds of banking executives have been resigning, corporate insiders have been selling offenormous amounts of stock, and I have been personally told that a significant number of Wall Street bankers have been shopping for "prepper properties" in rural communities this summer. Meanwhile, there have been reports that the U.S. government has been stockpiling food and ammunition, and Barack Obama has been signing a whole bunch of executive orders that would potentially be implemented in the event of a major meltdown of society. So what does all of this mean? It could mean something or it could mean nothing. What we do know is that a financial collapse is coming at some point. Over the past 40 years, the total amount of all debt in the United States has grown from about 2 trillion dollars to nearly 55 trillion dollars. That is a recipe for financial armageddon, and it is inevitable that this gigantic bubble of debt is going to burst at some point.
    In normal times, the U.S. government does not tell major banks to "develop plans for staving off collapse".
    But according to a recent Reuters article, that is apparently exactly what has been happening....
    U.S. regulators directed five of the country's biggest banks, including Bank of America Corp and Goldman Sachs Group Inc, to develop plans for staving off collapse if they faced serious problems, emphasizing that the banks could not count on government help.
    The two-year-old program, which has been largely secret until now, is in addition to the "living wills" the banks crafted to help regulators dismantle them if they actually do fail. It shows how hard regulators are working to ensure that banks have plans for worst-case scenarios and can act rationally in times of distress.
    Does it seem odd to anyone else that only five really big banks got such a warning?
    And why keep it secret from the American public?
    Does the federal government actually expect such a collapse to happen?
    If federal officials do expect a financial collapse to occur, they would not be the only ones. An increasing number of very respected economists are speaking about the coming financial collapse as if there is a certain inevitability about it.
    For example, check out the following quote from a recent Money Morning article....
    Richard Duncan, formerly of the World Bank and chief economist at Blackhorse Asset Mgmt., says America's $16 trillion federal debt has escalated into a "death spiral," as he told CNBC.
    And it could result in a depression so severe that he doesn't "think our civilization could survive it."
    A former World Bank executive is warning that our civilization might not survive what is coming?
    That is pretty chilling.
    Economist Nouriel Roubini says that he believes that the coming crisis will be even worse than 2008....
    "Worse because like 2008 you will have an economic and financial crisis but unlike 2008, you are running out of policy bullets. In 2008, you could cut rates; do QE1, QE2; you could do fiscal stimulus; you could backstop/ringfence/guarantee banks and everybody else. Today, more QEs are becoming less and less effective because the problems are of solvency not liquidity. Fiscal deficits are already so large and you cannot bail out the banks because 1) there is a political opposition to it; and 2) governments are near-insolvent - they cannot bailout themselves let alone their banks. The problem is that we are running out of policy rabbits to pull out of the hat!"
    Across the pond, many European officials are echoing similar sentiments.
    What Nigel Farage told King World News the other day is very ominous....
    Today MEP (Member European Parliament) Nigel Farage spoke with King World News about what he described as the possibility of, “a really dramatic banking collapse.” Farage also warned that central planners want to enslave and imprison people inside of a ‘New Order,’ and he described the situation as “horrifying.”
    The situation in Europe continues to get worse and worse. The authorities in Europe have come out with "solution" after "solution", and yet unemployment continues to skyrocket and economic conditions in the EU have deteriorated very steadily over the past 12 months.
    If all of that was not bad enough, there are an increasing number of indications that Germany is actually considering leaving the euro.
    Needless to say, that would be a complete and total disaster for the rest of the eurozone.
    Of course there are any number of ways that the financial crisis in Europe could potentially play out.
    But all of the realistic scenarios would be very bad for the global economy.
    Meanwhile, our resources are dwindling, war in the Middle East could erupt at any moment and our planet is becoming increasingly unstable. The following is from a recent article by Paul B. Farrell on Marketwatch.com....
    Fasten your seat belts, soon we’ll all be shocked out of denial. Some unpredictable black swan. A global wake-up call will trigger the Pentagon’s prediction in Fortune a decade ago at the launch of the Iraq War: “By 2020 ... an ancient pattern of desperate, all-out wars over food, water, and energy supplies is emerging ... warfare defining human life.”
    It is almost as if a "perfect storm" is brewing.
    Of course the historic drought that is ravaging food production in the United States this summer is not helping matters either. Another summer or two like this one and we could be looking at a return of Dust Bowl conditions.
    Anyone that is watching what is going on in the world and is not concerned at all about what is happening is simply being delusional.
    Recently, a "team of scientists, economists, and geopolitical analysts" examined the current state of the global economic system and the conclusions they reached were absolutely staggering....
    One member of this team, Chris Martenson, a pathologist and former VP of a Fortune 300 company, explains their findings:
    "We found an identical pattern in our debt, total credit market, and money supply that guarantees they're going to fail. This pattern is nearly the same as in any pyramid scheme, one that escalates exponentially fast before it collapses. Governments around the globe are chiefly responsible.
    "And what's really disturbing about these findings is that the pattern isn't limited to our economy. We found the same catastrophic pattern in our energy, food, and water systems as well."
    According to Martenson: "These systems could all implode at the same time. Food, water, energy, money. Everything."
    Hmmmm - it sounds like they have been reading The Economic Collapse Blog.
    The truth is that a massive worldwide financial collapse is coming.
    It is inevitable, and it is going to be extremely painful.
    So what do you think about all of this? Please feel free to post a comment with your thoughts below....











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    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    your vehicles and property can be seized and used...
    your labor can be forced....
    and more and worse....

    Garden Plot became Rex-84 became C.O.G. became where we are [all is 'ready']....only the trigger - real or invented [much more likely] is needed.

    Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness


    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
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    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lemkin View Post

    No. And while the Secret Government in the USA was behind it [with other subordinate partners: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, UK, Israel, and likely several others]; your focus/fixation on Israel as controlling the USA power structure is very odd. Yes, they have disproportionate influence, but it is, IMO, because of their geopolitical location/importance as the moored 'aircraft carrier' for the USA in the midst of all that OIL - and not the other way around. There seems also to be a touch of antisemitism in your remarks. PeaceNow in Israel has many adherents; granted they have little voice or viability - as the equivalent in the USA, UK, or OZ. Do I see some Israelis who were likely complicit in 911 - and/or had foreknowlege? Yes. Do I see 911 as an Israeli or Mossad-run operation? No! It was run out of the 'beltway' and American neo-fascist structure....and the cover-up lies there, as well. Were some Israeli companies and intelligence assets/agencies involved? Yes! Were they in control? No! Were some American neocons using Israeli cut-outs and companies to do dirty deeds for them? Yes. Did they [the American fascists] loose control? No! Were some Israeli-initiated intelligence actions against Americans and America sometimes run without universal American intelligence permission? Seems like some have been - mainly in cleverly gathering electronic communications. However, it seems to suit your world view to see Israel as omnipotent; but where is the evidence? I find it missing - or highly flawed, IMHO.
    I see you've fallen into the trap of confusing antisemitism with analysis of the facts. I see 9/11 as an Israeli operation facilitated by Zionist elements within the US. I don't believe Israel was a junior partner, as you do.

    In any case, we are now witnessing Israel's unsubtle demands for attacking Iran being resisted by Obama and senior US military leaders. In November 2008 we saw Israel launch a slaughter of 1500 Gazans, cynically timed to coincide with Obama's election in the hope that the world's attention would be focused on Washington. Then a few months later we saw Israel slaughter many on board a Turkish boat bound for the devestated inhabitants of Gaza with humanitarian aid.

    This is Israel doing these things, not American neocons using Israeli cutouts, evil CIA assets or any similar nonsense.

    Get a grip on reality.

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    Mark Stapleton Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Millea View Post
    Despite attempts by some to shoot one of the messengers, namely Gordon Duff
    Mark,

    Gordon Duff is a high profile public person with a lot of influence.He runs a webpage called "Veterans Today".Why is it that there is virtually nothing on Duff's military service on the web?And,all I'm talking about here is just basic information.There isn't even a Wiki page up on him.

    Don't you think this is a little strange for someone claiming to be a spokesperson for Veterans?I think Veterans would like to know how he only spent less than two years in the Marines,when an enlistment is for four years(if that sevice record is correct).I could go on about how the heck did he go from a trained rifleman,to an S3 clerk.It looks to me like he had some strings pulled to get something cushy like that.

    So,you can call it "shooting the messenger",but many people think Duff is a propagandist.And really,it would be good for him to be transparent on these issues.Don't ya think.....
    Do you think the guy is lying about being a veteran? He would be stupid to do so, because he wouldn't get far by lying about that.

    So what if he doesn't have a wiki page and a chest full of medals. He only claims to be a veteran, not a decorated war hero.

    I don't understand your calls for him to be 'transparent' on 'these issues'. He's a veteran with very strong opinions, simple as that. Sounds like the issue is that you don't like his opinions.

    Shouldn't you be a little more tranparent about what really irks you?

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    Do you think the guy is lying about being a veteran? He would be stupid to do so, because he wouldn't get far by lying about that.
    No Mark,I already said he served in Vietnam.

    Shouldn't you be a little more tranparent about what really irks you?
    No Mark,I already have been transparent.

    It's hate speech that is the issue Ed.Hate speech that has the capacity to influence the gullible.So what is the target audience for "Veterans Today"?There are probably 25 million veterans in this country,and I can assure you only a very small percentage of them would agree with Gordon Duff's viewpoint and tactics.

    That's why I said that Duff should change the name of the webpage.It doesn't reflect at all the viewpoint of the vast majority of veterans.In fact it's a complete turnoff.If Gordon Duff named the webpage something like "The Duff Veterans Report",I wouldn't be saying this stuff,because that means "he owns what is put up there".But Duff plays with words,as the name "Veterans Today",seems to imply that this is how Veterans are and think.Do you understand that Ed?
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller


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    Mark Stapleton Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Millea View Post
    Do you think the guy is lying about being a veteran? He would be stupid to do so, because he wouldn't get far by lying about that.
    No Mark,I already said he served in Vietnam.

    Shouldn't you be a little more tranparent about what really irks you?
    No Mark,I already have been transparent.

    It's hate speech that is the issue Ed.Hate speech that has the capacity to influence the gullible.So what is the target audience for "Veterans Today"?There are probably 25 million veterans in this country,and I can assure you only a very small percentage of them would agree with Gordon Duff's viewpoint and tactics.

    That's why I said that Duff should change the name of the webpage.It doesn't reflect at all the viewpoint of the vast majority of veterans.In fact it's a complete turnoff.If Gordon Duff named the webpage something like "The Duff Veterans Report",I wouldn't be saying this stuff,because that means "he owns what is put up there".But Duff plays with words,as the name "Veterans Today",seems to imply that this is how Veterans are and think.Do you understand that Ed?
    A turnoff for you maybe but I agree with what he says. So what if his newsletter is called veterans today? He is a veteran. You claim he doesn't reflect the vast majority of veterans, but who made you spokesman for the vast majority of veterans?

    And what is this hate speech you speak of? Does criticism of Israel suddenly qualify as hate speech, especially when the facts prove it to be fully justified?

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    A turnoff for you maybe but I agree with what he says.
    No doubt,you're an anti-semetic extremeist also.

    So what if his newsletter is called veterans today? He is a veteran. You claim he doesn't reflect the vast majority of veterans, but who made you spokesman for the vast majority of veterans?
    Okay,you didn't understand my point.Maybe only Veterans can grasp it.I'm not a spokesperson for anything,but common sense is on my side.

    And what is this hate speech you speak of? Does criticism of Israel suddenly qualify as hate speech, especially when the facts prove it to be fully justified?
    Okay,I should have said anti-semetic hate speech.Yes,you can take facts and coat them with an anti-semetic shit screen.Just go back to post #15 for proof of that.

    So Mark,tell me just what difference there is between say,Pam Geller hate preaching that Islam is taking over America,and Gordon Duff preaching that Israelis are taking over America.

    I see little difference,and I wouldn't doubt both are Psy-ops of some sort.
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

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