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    The year was 1961, and John Kennedy was soon to become the 35th President. Shortly before Kennedy’s inauguration, President Dwight D. Eisenhower shocked the nation and the world with his televised farewell speech. The speech’s content was shocking because General Eisenhower was a very popular war hero, and American military might was second to none.
    Eisenhower, a highly decorated five-star general, was the Supreme Commander of all allied forces during World War II. It was Eisenhower’s leadership during the Normandy invasion that ultimately freed Europe from the Nazi scourge.
    Incredibly, in his farewell address, this great American hero did not warn the nation of the budding communist threat or the horrors of nuclear proliferation No, not at all! Instead, this career military genius poignantly and soberly declared to this great nation:
    “… We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.”
    “This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development Yet we must not fail to recognize its grave implications Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.”
    “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or our democratic processes.”
    Here we have a career military officer, and sitting US President warning the nation in his final farewell speech, that something called “unwarranted influence by the military-industrial complex” poses an extremely dangerous threat to our Free Republic society. According to Eisenhower, this threat “exists and will persist”.
    To President Eisenhower, in January of 1961, this evil was a much greater threat to America than Castro’s Cuba or Kruschev’s Soviet Union What exactly could have happened in the “military-industrialist” establishment that would have caused.
    Eisenhower to issue such a strongly worded warning? Improved machine gun production? Nope. Battleship production? Nope. Nuclear submarines? Nope. Proliferation of nuclear warheads? A concern of course, but a concern that most Americans were fully aware of.
    No, obviously what caused Eisenhower such deep concern had to be something much more pervasively shadowy, dark and secret Some new, covert, technology had clearly emerged that had the very real potential to provide certain individuals with the “acquisition of unwarranted influence” that in turn would “endanger our liberties or our democratic processes” (i.e, our free and fair election process). In other words, it had the clear potential to circumvent the voice of the people and completely empower un-elected power mongers.
    Eisenhower, I would submit, was warning America about something called the “Sound of Silence”.
    Eisenhower was an honest and patriotic American Like Marine Corp General Smedley Butler, who decades earlier declared to Congress that “War is a Racket,” Ike knew that such absolute power and total covert control over the minds and hearts of individual citizens would corrupt society absolutely He also knew and understood, as did the German philosopher Goethe: “No man is more hopelessly enslaved, than he who falsely believes that he is free” Therefore, he issued his strong, concluding warning to America. Today, this author must do no less.
    The Sound of Silence is a military-intelligence code word for certain psychotronic weapons of mass mind-control tested in the mid-1950s, perfected during the 70s, and used extensively by the “modern” US military in the early 90s, despite the opposition and warnings issued by men such as Dwight David Eisenhower.
    This mind-altering covert weapon is based on something called subliminal carrier technology, or the Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) (also nicknamed S-Quad or “Squad” in military jargon). It was developed for military use by Dr Oliver Lowery of Norcross, Georgia, and is described in US Patent 5,159,703 — “Silent Subliminal Presentation System” for commercial use in 1992 The patent abstract reads:
    “A silent communications system in which nonaural carriers, in the very low (ELF) or very high audio-frequency (VHF) range or in the adjacent ultrasonic frequency spectrum, are amplitude- or frequency-modulated with the desired intelligence and propagated acoustically or vibrationally, for inducement into the brain, typically through the use of loudspeakers, earphones, or piezoelectric transducers. The modulated carriers may be transmitted directly in real time or may be conveniently recorded and stored on mechanical, magnetic, or optical media for delayed or repeated transmission to the listener”
    In layman’s terms, this device, this “Sound of Silence”simply allows for the unwarranted implantation of specific thoughts, emotions, and even prescribed physical actions into unsuspecting human beings In short, it has the very real ability to turn human beings into mere puppets in the hands of certain “controllers,” or puppet-masters.
    Eisenhower knew full well what such a “weapon” could do in the hands of greedy, conspiring men and women scheming to control the planet It could easily result in the takeover of American society without a single bullet being fired This is what he was warning America about, this is the “combination” he feared above all others.
    Have the leaders of America ignored Ike’s warning? Have conspiring and evil men and women utilized this diabolical technology on unsuspecting Americans and others outside of our borders? If so, will they continue to utilize the technology through the medium of television and radio? This exposé will attempt to answer these questions, and give the reader a clear picture of exactly who made the decisions to use the “Sound of Silence” in both war and peace.
    On March 23, 1991, a news brief was released in the form of an ITV News Bureau Ltd (London) wire service bulletin entitled “High-Tech Psychological Warfare Arrives in the Middle East” This was during the administration of George Bush Sr., during “Operation Desert Storm,” and describes in remarkable detail a US Psychological Operations (psy-ops) covert operation successfully deployed against Iraqi troops in Kuwait.
    Saddam Hussein’s vaunted “Republican Guard” crack troops were promising Bush “the mother of all battles” with many thousands of dead coalition troops. On paper, it looked convincing. Hussein’s Republican Guard troops were battle-hardened veterans of the 10 year war with Iran, while coalition troops were unblooded. The Iraqis had modern weaponry and were well trained in how to use it.
    Something very strange happened, however The “mother of all battles” ended before it began, as literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqi soldiers surrendered en masse without even firing a shot!
    Here is what the British press reported on the incident (while the American press was censored):
    “… an unbelievable and highly classified psy-ops program utilizing ‘Silent Sound’ techniques was successfully deployed. The opportunity to use this method occurred when Saddam Hussein’s military command-and-control system was destroyed. The Iraqi troops were then forced to use commercial FM radio stations to carry encoded commands, which were broadcast on the 100 MHz frequency. The US psy-ops team set up its own portable FM transmitter, utilizing the same frequency, in the deserted city of Al Khafji. This US transmitter overpowered the local Iraqi station. Along with patriotic and religious music, psy-ops transmitted ‘vague, confusing and contradictory military orders and information.
    “Subliminally, a much more powerful technology was at work, however. A sophisticated electronic system designed to ’speak’ directly to the mind of the listener; to alter and entrain his brainwaves, to manipulate his brain’s electroencephalographic (EEG) patterns and thus artificially implant negative emotional states —- feelings of intense fear, anxiety, despair and hopelessness were created in the Iraqi troops This incredibly effective subliminal system doesn’t just tell a person to feel an emotion, it makes them feel it; it implants that emotion in their minds”.
    While utilizing such a “non-lethal” covert psy-ops weapon resulted in many lives being saved, both American, Coalition, as well as Iraqi, the question begs to be asked: how can Americans be assured that such a weapon is not being used on them by “Big Brother” on a daily basis?
    Moreover, why was the real story behind the mass Iraqi surrenders censored so completely from the American people? Typically, secrecy of this nature is only employed when the subject is morally offensive, or when the powers that be wish to continue to deploy the subject without public scrutiny or oversight, or both. Clearly, if such a device employed covertly on Americans could result in “unwarranted influence” over a society, as Eisenhower warned, I submit the majority of Americans would be completely outraged and incensed, and rightfully so. Therefore, of course the technology would need to remain hidden away.
    Officially, the Sound of Silence (S-quad) technology does not exist, just as the US Government officially denies the existence of UFOs and Area 51 (Groom Lake) in the Nevada desert. However, the physical realities cannot be ignored by the rational and logical mind.
    For instance, during the first Gulf war, the man who most likely ordered the deployment of the Sound of Silence was Major General Albert (Bert) Stubblebine, who was the Commanding General of the US Army’s Intelligence School and Center, as well as the Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM) as well as the Army’s Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) In short, Albert Stubblebine was the Army’s liaison with the CIA and Naval Intelligence operatives (ONI), and as head of ERADCOM, he would of necessity have had complete working knowledge of the Sound of Silence weaponry, if indeed it truly exists.
    He was the US Army’s top spy-boss, and of course, was privy to all its secrets Now retired from active duty following a 32 year career, General Stubblebine has combined with his wife, Rima Laibow to form something called the Natural Solutions Foundation, supposedly dedicated to fighting all health freedom threats to individuals including Codex Alimentarius, vaccinations, and of course the FDA Gestapo.
    On their website, www.healthfreedomusa.org one can read this about Albert N Stubblebine: “Many of the innovations he developed helped the US to conduct the First Gulf War effectively and swiftly with a very low casualty rate”.
    But of course, such “innovations” are never fully disclosed to Americans and are officially non-existent With all due respect to General Stubblebine and shadowy power-brokers such as Frank Carlucci and Donald Rumsfeld, this author concurs whole-heartedly with General Eisenhower, and I declare that such posturing and secrecy with weapons of mind-control constitutes indeed an “acquisition of unwarranted power and influence” and has absolutely no place in a free and open society — no matter how many soldier’s lives it may save on the battlefield. The potential for massive misuse and abuse of such immense controlling power is simply too great.
    Furthermore, with all due respect Mr Stubblebine, is he and Rima Laibow using the cover of Natural Health activistism to hide their true agenda? Could this hidden agenda be the covert promotion and testing of Sound of Silence equipment and technology commercially throughout the world?
    … Immediately after “retiring” from the army, General Stubblebine took a position as the “VP for Intelligence Systems” with Braddock, Dunn, and McDonald (BDM), a major defense contractor owned by the shadowy Carlyle Group and ex-Defense Secretary Frank Carlucci of Iran-Contra infamy…
    Since the Sound of Silence machine technology was patented for “privatization” commercial applications by Dr. Lowery on October 27, 1992 , it clearly opened the door to private defense contractors such as BDM to develop their own “intelligence systems”. It would then make sense to employ General Stubblebine as a consultant Of course, what would then stop BDM from quietly marketing and selling the Sound of Silence to large corporations tied to Wall Street?
    For example, imagine utilizing the Sound of Silence in a large Wal-Mart store, mixing the ELF waves with background music to subliminally brainwash dishonest shoppers not to engage in shoplifting? Such a device would save Sam Walton many millions of dollars in lost revenue every year.
    Suppose also that a young, black man from Illinois was given access to, and was able to utilize the S-quad Sound of Silence technology in his public speeches, radio and 30-minute television”infomercials” — all programmed and designed by “handlers” to illicit strong emotional responses from audience members who then are merely “hearing without listening”.
    Moreover, what if televisions across the US and Canada all went 100% digital [to be mandatory in Feb 2009] in their signals (in order to successfully link to GWEN towers) which would allow the unrestricted use of the Sound of Silence frequencies in a complete and massive control of the nation’s mind and consciousness?
    I am telling you that is exactly what is happening President Eisenhower was absolutely correct, and his worst fears were indeed well founded! The military-industrialist complex has quietly completed the takeover of the nation’s consciousness, and thus its very soul.
    … Keep in mind that taking complete fascist control of America is just one step of the Zionist elites ultimate agenda, of which Stubblebine and Laibow have very likely pledged their true loyalty. The elitist Zionists overall objective is indeed absolute world control, something they refer to as a “New World Order”with them as dictators and overlords.
    Again, the absolute secrecy surrounding the development and deployment of the electromagnetic mind-altering technology of the Sound of Silence in a very real way reflects the tremendous power that is inherent in it This is why Eisenhower knew that he had to warn the nation about it back in 1961 To put it bluntly, whoever controls this technology literally has the power to control the minds of men — all men and women everywhere.
    Of course, whoever controls the minds of all humans, controls the wealth and destiny of planet Earth. Furthermore, Stubblebine, as commander of Army Intelligence would likely follow the prescribed manual of all covert ops, such as is found in a declassified US manual for the planned subversion and coup of the government of Nicaragua. The manual instructs the CIA “guerilla forces” to engage in different “false front” organizations designed to win the respect, trust, and influence of the enemy. Once complete trust and confidence is achieved by means of the activities of the “false front,” then the destruction of the enemy by means of misdirection and disinformation tactics can more easily be executed.
    I would submit there is no better “false front” to infiltrate in America than Natural Health proponents, for they are typically healthier, better informed, and more dedicated to preserving individual freedoms and fighting tyranny than other Americans Thus, there could be no better “false front” to establish, and there is clearly no more potentially vicious wolf hiding in sheep’s clothing than the man who knows more about the Sound of Silence secret deployment than any other human…
    There is ample evidence that certain elitists in America and Israel plan to definitely extend the capacity of this technology to encompass all people on every continent. A key to this is the HAARP project where ELF and VHF frequencies can indeed be beamed off of the Earth’s ionosphere to various GWEN towers world-wide.
    Of course, the US Government officially denies all of this, telling the talking heads of the controlled news media that the GWEN towers are merely private cell-phone towers with no ulterior agenda, and therefore anybody who thinks otherwise is a lunatic-fringe conspiracy nut.
    The evidence to the contrary, however is clear and unequivocal Dr Michael Persinger is a professor of psychology and neuroscience at Laurentian University, Ontario, Canada Concerning this subject, Dr Persinger writes:
    “Temporal lobe stimulation can evoke the feeling of a presence, disorientation, and perceptual irregularities. It can activate images stored in the subject’s memory, including nightmares and monsters that are normally suppressed. Contemporary neuroscience suggests the existence of fundamental algorithms by which all sensory transduction is translated into an intrinsic, brain-specific code Direct stimulation of these codes within the human temporal or limbic cortices by applied electromagnetic patterns may require energy levels which are within the range of both geomagnetic activity and contemporary communication networks A process which is coupled to the narrow band of brain temperature could allow all normal human brains to be affected by a sub-harmonic whose frequency range at about 10 Hz would only vary by 0.1 Hz”.
    Dr Persinger concludes the article by writing:
    “Within the last two decades a potential has emerged which was improbable, but which is now feasible. This potential is the technical capability to influence directly the major portion of the approximately 6.5 billion brains of the human species, without mediation through classical sensory modalities, by generating neural information within a physical medium within which all members of the species are immersed.
    “The historical emergence of such possibilities, which have ranged from gunpowder to atomic fission, have resulted in major changes in the social evolution that occurred inordinately quickly after the implementation Reduction of the risk of the inappropriate application of these technologies requires the continued and open discussion of their realistic feasibility and implications within the scientific and public domain”.
    How can one have an “open discussion” on the subject when government circles continually deny the existence of such technology?
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    Lyrics to the pop song ‘The Sound of Silence’
    By Paul Kane (aka Paul Simon), 1963
    Hello, darkness, my old friend
    I’ve come to talk with you again
    Because a vision softly creeping
    Left its seeds while I was sleeping
    And the vision that was planted in my brain
    Still remains within the Sound of Silence
    In restless dreams I walked alone
    Narrow streets of cobblestone
    Beneath the halo of a street lamp
    I turned my collar to the cold and damp
    When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
    That split the night and touched the Sound of Silence
    And in the naked light I saw
    Ten thousand people, maybe more
    People talking without speaking
    People hearing without listening
    People writing songs that voices never share…
    And no one dare disturb the Sound of Silence
    “Fools,” said I, “you do not know
    Silence like a cancer grows”
    “Hear my words that I might teach you,
    Take my arms that I might reach you”
    But my words like silent raindrops fell,
    And echoed in the wells of silence
    And the people bowed and prayed
    To the neon god they made
    And the sign flashed out its warning
    In the words that it was forming
    And the signs said: “The words of the prophets
    Are written on the subway walls
    And tenement halls,
    And whisper’d in the Sound of Silence”
    Paul Simon/Paul Kane’s musical work in the early 1960’s was primarily as a contracted songwriter in the famed “Brill Building machine.” He would write songs for other artists to record. He did try his hand at performing, however. He wrote many ballads and rockabilly tunes which were recorded, both by Paul and his mildly-successful Tico and the Triumphs Paul also had a famous collaborator, Carole Kane (who changed her name to Carol King).
    Paul Simon, whose family was part of the military-industrialist complex, was very likely a product of the early 1960s military experimentation in Silent Sound mind control, which is clearly what the lyrics of “The Sound of Silence” convey to those “in the know”.

    The full article can be read here:
    http://www.escapetheillusion.com/blo...nd-of-silence/
    :sheep:

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    The elitist Zionists overall objective is indeed absolute world control, something they refer to as a “New World Order”with them as dictators and overlords.
    I knew it was in there somewhere and I wasn't disappointed...

    anyway, a reasoned response to the piece from the same blog follows....

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    Nanook
    January 13, 2009 am31 10:00 pm

    I will be surprised if my response gets published here, because I take issue with the author. I have no way to prove, in this reply, that I’m not some kind of gov’t sympathizer or informant or otherwise a hack for Uncle Sam. The average conspiracy person (and I certainly believe that there are conspiracies out there) looks for material like that which this author publishes, which uses a combination of techno-speak and “probable” logic to foment a myth.

    Note that one “conclusion” leads to another with words such as “very likely” or “probably means” or similar. But the conclusory jumps are not always correct nor do they connect the dots they purport to connect. Anyone who has done any research or even just informed reading on the MIC (Military-Industrial Complex) knows what Eisenhower really meant. There was NO subliminal technology available and working at the time, regardless of any patents granted. There were patents granted for potential weather control back in the 1950s (technology which later came to be associated with HAARP), but do any readers think the gov’t has figured out weather control yet? The conspiracy people will respond with “well, look at this crazy weather we have been getting.” Yes, quite. The gov’t doesn’t live on another planet, not yet anyway. The people within the gov’t still eat food, breathe air, take a dump every day, etc. They have to live on this planet with us. And it’s not logical to presume they would use HAARP to destroy the only place they can live on. So, let’s not get caught up in the issue of patents and whether that proves that a mind-control wave is working.

    Moving on…. a lot of research has been done on the brain. To date, the most advanced medical research can only map general areas where certain functions happen. But NO equipment can read thoughts. And since this is still not possible, it is also NOT possible to engender thoughts in someone for “mind control”. Iraq’s Revolutionary Guard freaked out and gave up for one reason: In his controlled media environment, Saddam had been lying to his people for years. It was his bravado that said he will bring the mother of all wars to the U.S. Saddam convinced his soldiers that they were the ultimate warriors and that through Allah (and Saddam’s great wisdom) they were unbeatable, even by the infidels of the U.S. The Iraqi soldiers may have fought desert wars with Iran but they were unprepared for some of the American munitions that were deployed against them. One of these, that had a true psychological effect, was the aerial gas bomb. Ever heard of that, readers? A bomb is dropped over a large troop formation, filled with gasoline or highly flammable liquid. It is exploded not on the ground, but several hundred feet up in the air. The heat and shock wave precipitates downward, with the shock wave doing the most damage, turning soldiers’ organs to jelly. A horrific but simple weapon. The first time that was used (and it was used a number of times) it terrified the Iraqis. They had no way to fight that, nor could they know when one was coming. What would you do in such a circumstance, facing overwhelming and lethal (and agonizing) force attack? Now add to that the fact that Saddam was squandering money and wasn’t outfitting his troops very well. They were low on equipment and rations, some were already starving, short on water and ammo. Many had zip. They didn’t dare complain, because that would land them in one of Saddam’s torture prisons. So they suffered through their involuntary military service. Until they could take no more. Beaten down physically and psychologically by years of abuse under Saddam, and then further by overwhelming physical force from the U.S., they surrendered. There was NO mind control wave transmission. That is a lie.

    Why? What’s the reason for the lie? Because it sounds good. Blaming the MIC, which I don’t like either, becomes the rallying cry. They are usually the bad guys (look at what happened at Abu Ghraib), so why not believe this as well? The clue comes in the following snip taken from the presentation:

    >>>>>Keep in mind that taking complete fascist control of America is just one step of the Zionist elites ultimate agenda, of which Stubblebine and Laibow have very likely pledged their true loyalty. The elitist Zionists overall objective is indeed absolute world control, something they refer to as a “New World Order”with them as dictators and overlords.<<<<<

    Ah, finally. It took several paragraphs of drum beating but the author finally got down to business. The Zionists. Oh yes, the Zionists. That is to say, the Jews. The fear of the Jewish conspiracy to take over the world. This is an OLD and worn out drum. This emanates from the extreme political right wing of the U.S., and surprisingly, even though that segment of our society has the greatest degree of insensitivity and intolerance concerning Muslims (foolishly believing them all to be terrorists), their philosophy is right in line with the extremist faction among Muslims.

    I could go on.

    The point here, is that, we all must guard against not only true conspiracies, but guard against those who would subvert our very goodness and make us fearful and hateful by pulling our collective string, mixing overt falsehood with just enough truth, or seeming truth, to make all of the falsehood seem real. It is the responsibility of EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN of our beloved country to get the facts. Yes, it takes work to dig them out. You have to pick up BOOKs, people, you have to READ. The Internet is not the fountain of truth. Neither are all books, for that matter. You must sift through what you hear and figure out what is real and what is carefully crafted BS. Look for those telltale phrases in which one “conclusion” leads to another by such words as, “this probably means”, or “very likely such and such will happen next”. (And then in the next writing or paragraph, the “very likely” event is treated as thought it already happened, in order to build on it with the next falsehood).

    Get the picture? THINK. ASK QUESTIONS. FIND WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT ISN’T. THE REAL MIND CONTROL IS IN GETTING YOU TO AVOID THINKING!!!! That is how a complacent and compliant citizenry is developed and manipulated. Through lies and fear-mongering, which creates confusion and distrust, not only of gov’t, but of each other.

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    "THINK. ASK QUESTIONS. FIND WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT ISN’T. THE REAL MIND CONTROL IS IN GETTING YOU TO AVOID THINKING!!!! "

    If most bible believers would only take their own advice!!!!

    Did you not read this part? (The Sound of Silence is a military-intelligence code word for certain psychotronic weapons of mass mind-control tested in the mid-1950s, perfected during the 70s, and used extensively by the “modern” US military in the early 90s, despite the opposition and warnings issued by men such as Dwight David Eisenhower.)

    There were mind control programs in Eisenhower's time. They were not advanced as what we now have but enough to scare the hell out of any right thinking person. He had sense enough to realize technology would increase and he also knew the government would most likely continue to use these black ops against the innocent citizens of this country.

    You have no idea what technology was available as far back as the 1940's and you sure have no idea what is being hidden from the public today. I would suggest you find and read Brotherhood of the Bell: Black Arts & Black Sciences by William Dean Ross.

    I think it was Thomas Paine who wrote "serving a mean god makes a mean man".

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    There is no question that this technology exists, and has existed for a very long time.

    I wrote the following in 1996 at the request of the International Committee of the Red Cross. I'm quite happy for the entire thing to be posted on this forum but for brevity am linking it HERE

    It is a now long out of date and others have carried on the research - one being John J McMurtry who's Remote Behavioral Influence Technology Evidence essay can be read HERE
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    Does any one here recall a BBC tv series from the 1980's called 'A Very Peculiar Practice'?
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Guyatt View Post
    There is no question that this technology exists, and has existed for a very long time.

    I wrote the following in 1996 at the request of the International Committee of the Red Cross. I'm quite happy for the entire thing to be posted on this forum but for brevity am linking it HERE

    It is a now long out of date and others have carried on the research - one being John J McMurtry who's Remote Behavioral Influence Technology Evidence essay can be read HERE
    David, that is a wonderful article! I had read many of those items from research done by others but you have it all in one neat bundle. Thank you for posting the link. You can type in 'Victims of Childhood Mind Control in the 1940's' under any search engine and get some shocking first hand accounts of just how advanced and far back these atrocities are.

    None of this is new and is just a continuation of all the ancient mystery schools. The NT speaks of the mysteries and the jesus figure teaches in parables to the common people and tells his chosen followers only they can receive the true knowledge and it will be hidden from all others. If the day ever comes when the complete contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls have been truthfully translated and released the world can clean up the mess that religions have caused. If these evil secret organizations have tainted governments how could any right thinking person be so naive to believe religions were left untainted? Next to governmental control religion is next in line as a tool of human brainwashing and control. The three major Abrahamic religions keep fighting each other and don't have one clue what is really going on or what they are truly worshipping. In 2007 at his Easter sermon Pope Benedict stirred up quite an uproar by declaring that he believed Jesus celebrated passover in the Essene tradition and also that John the Baptist grew up in the Qumrum Essene community. The Essenes were the radical zealot jewish sect that had split from the church at Jerusalem and declared they were the real 'chosen' of god. They were pro-torah law keepers and anti-gentile. That would be why Jesus and his followers referred to non-jews as dogs. I would think from the many controversial statements of the Pope in the last two years, he knows it is a matter of time before the truth will come forth. It is my opinion that to see the beginnings of these secret societies, mind control and 'mystery schools' one needs to look no further than the so-called holy books, especially the KJV of the christian bible. I believe those books are blueprints for these societies and have been followed down through the ages. Apparently, there were as many different secret societies in those days as now. The so-called Apostle Paul had his own thing going and his form of christianity is what is presented today. Many scholars and scroll translators believe he is the "spouter of lies" that the Essenes referred to in some of their scrolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    Does any one here recall a BBC tv series from the 1980's called 'A Very Peculiar Practice'?
    Magda, I have never heard of this series but am interested if you find where I can obtain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Story View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by David Guyatt View Post
    There is no question that this technology exists, and has existed for a very long time.

    I wrote the following in 1996 at the request of the International Committee of the Red Cross. I'm quite happy for the entire thing to be posted on this forum but for brevity am linking it HERE

    It is a now long out of date and others have carried on the research - one being John J McMurtry who's Remote Behavioral Influence Technology Evidence essay can be read HERE
    David, that is a wonderful article! I had read many of those items from research done by others but you have it all in one neat bundle. Thank you for posting the link. You can type in 'Victims of Childhood Mind Control in the 1940's' under any search engine and get some shocking first hand accounts of just how advanced and far back these atrocities are.

    None of this is new and is just a continuation of all the ancient mystery schools. The NT speaks of the mysteries and the jesus figure teaches in parables to the common people and tells his chosen followers only they can receive the true knowledge and it will be hidden from all others. If the day ever comes when the complete contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls have been truthfully translated and released the world can clean up the mess that religions have caused. If these evil secret organizations have tainted governments how could any right thinking person be so naive to believe religions were left untainted? Next to governmental control religion is next in line as a tool of human brainwashing and control. The three major Abrahamic religions keep fighting each other and don't have one clue what is really going on or what they are truly worshipping. In 2007 at his Easter sermon Pope Benedict stirred up quite an uproar by declaring that he believed Jesus celebrated passover in the Essene tradition and also that John the Baptist grew up in the Qumrum Essene community. The Essenes were the radical zealot jewish sect that had split from the church at Jerusalem and declared they were the real 'chosen' of god. They were pro-torah law keepers and anti-gentile. That would be why Jesus and his followers referred to non-jews as dogs. I would think from the many controversial statements of the Pope in the last two years, he knows it is a matter of time before the truth will come forth. It is my opinion that to see the beginnings of these secret societies, mind control and 'mystery schools' one needs to look no further than the so-called holy books, especially the KJV of the christian bible. I believe those books are blueprints for these societies and have been followed down through the ages. Apparently, there were as many different secret societies in those days as now. The so-called Apostle Paul had his own thing going and his form of christianity is what is presented today. Many scholars and scroll translators believe he is the "spouter of lies" that the Essenes referred to in some of their scrolls.
    I agree, Kate, at least to a certain extent. It is true, at least I think it is true, that Christianity actually is misnamed and should be called Paul-anity. And I agree that religion has very largely become a curse in that it seeks to bind and imprison it's followers thoughts and beliefs when it should be setting them free. However, I disagree on your blanket cynicism of religion per se, although I think I well understand where you are coming from in saying this and why.

    But not everything is black in perpetuity.

    On Mystery Schools I would say that they have their mysteries for the very understandable reason that beholding mysteries is something that the majority of people are not able to, nor wish to, accomplish. For example, the great secret of the Greek mystery schools was openly chiseled into the stone lintel above the entrance door of their temples for all to see (and thus ignore in their multitudes): "Gnothi Seaton". Check it out. The Upanishads also have their own version of Gnothi Seaton. Others too. Or as Sir Francis Bacon once said: "why feed a donkey lettuce when nettles will do?" Meaning, in other words that not everyone wants or even likes lettuce, and if given it finds it hard to digest.
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    Does any one here recall a BBC tv series from the 1980's called 'A Very Peculiar Practice'?
    Magda, I have never heard of this series but am interested if you find where I can obtain it.
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    I saw it on tv when it was on the first time. Unfortunately it is not available in Australia in DVD format for some reason so I am relying on 20 year old memory. The general outline is of a provincial British university and there is one department there conducting very strange secret experiments using amongst other things using low frequency sound waves. It was not a documentary but a black comedy.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Story View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by David Guyatt View Post
    There is no question that this technology exists, and has existed for a very long time.

    I wrote the following in 1996 at the request of the International Committee of the Red Cross. I'm quite happy for the entire thing to be posted on this forum but for brevity am linking it HERE

    It is a now long out of date and others have carried on the research - one being John J McMurtry who's Remote Behavioral Influence Technology Evidence essay can be read HERE
    David, that is a wonderful article! I had read many of those items from research done by others but you have it all in one neat bundle. Thank you for posting the link. You can type in 'Victims of Childhood Mind Control in the 1940's' under any search engine and get some shocking first hand accounts of just how advanced and far back these atrocities are.

    None of this is new and is just a continuation of all the ancient mystery schools. The NT speaks of the mysteries and the jesus figure teaches in parables to the common people and tells his chosen followers only they can receive the true knowledge and it will be hidden from all others. If the day ever comes when the complete contents of the Dead Sea Scrolls have been truthfully translated and released the world can clean up the mess that religions have caused. If these evil secret organizations have tainted governments how could any right thinking person be so naive to believe religions were left untainted? Next to governmental control religion is next in line as a tool of human brainwashing and control. The three major Abrahamic religions keep fighting each other and don't have one clue what is really going on or what they are truly worshipping. In 2007 at his Easter sermon Pope Benedict stirred up quite an uproar by declaring that he believed Jesus celebrated passover in the Essene tradition and also that John the Baptist grew up in the Qumrum Essene community. The Essenes were the radical zealot jewish sect that had split from the church at Jerusalem and declared they were the real 'chosen' of god. They were pro-torah law keepers and anti-gentile. That would be why Jesus and his followers referred to non-jews as dogs. I would think from the many controversial statements of the Pope in the last two years, he knows it is a matter of time before the truth will come forth. It is my opinion that to see the beginnings of these secret societies, mind control and 'mystery schools' one needs to look no further than the so-called holy books, especially the KJV of the christian bible. I believe those books are blueprints for these societies and have been followed down through the ages. Apparently, there were as many different secret societies in those days as now. The so-called Apostle Paul had his own thing going and his form of christianity is what is presented today. Many scholars and scroll translators believe he is the "spouter of lies" that the Essenes referred to in some of their scrolls.
    here we go, if its not Jew bashing well, what else, its Christian bashing, all wrapped up in intelligentsia. My but the world is full of F-E-A-R

    Be nice if you'd post your scholars and scroll translators (whoever in the hell, they are) their cites for your above. Ya wanna sell something other than opinion, provide the goods.

    Tnx,
    David Healy

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