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  1. Default Don Jefferies:What Say You?

    Don,

    The embedded provocature over at the Education Forum (Colby), has used YOU as a proxy to attack me for supposedly vile and insulting comments towards you.I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind.

    Here is my supposed nasty comment:

    WOW....

    All I can say is.....

    Thank You..Thank You..Thank You!!!

    DPF for making the right call and banning Fetzer from this forum.What a circus that is over at the EF.And,of course Don Jefferies will chide us here about the evil ways that some members have been treated,but shuts his mouth when HIS forum is crazy/nuts.In fact,he says he likes it all.It stimulates debate.Ha ha ha
    So,obviously we are talking about one of James Fetzers posts that always turns into some kind of prolonged backstabbing crazy/nuts circus,correct?

    My comment about you,put into context,comes from our disagreements about the way we ban people here at DPF.Fetzer is banned from this forum and I am overjoyed that we don't have to put up with all that crazy assassination porn.lol

    Now,it is true,is it not,that you have chided us for having these strict rules about who is let on this forum.This is NOT the Education Forum it must be noted!We have a different mandate here.The owners will not allow Lone nutters,provocatuers,or agents of dis-information.The EF allows all these types onto their forum,hence you get the likes of the provocatuer Colby.Too bad!

    And,I will add that you also admit,a couple of posts below mine,that you did say you like that circus because it stimulates debate,but that you should not have worded it that way.

    So,I chided you that time,just as we've done on several occasions before.But,never have either one of us insulted each other.In fact,a couple of times I've made it clear that I think you are a good person,with a big heart,and I mean that.

    So,a couple of questions for you Don:

    Did my comment above insult you so badly that I'm told by provocature Colby that I need to apologize to you?

    Did I misrepresent you with my comment,even though I really told no untruths?

    Why have you,as a moderator at the EF,let the provocatuer Colby use YOU to attack this forum,and me personally?

    Please reply,

    Keith
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

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    Albert,

    Seeing as you're having a one-way debate here which involves another forum and their members.I suggest you get in touch with John Simpkin and see if you can join his forum.You know,like having a real honest discussion/debate.

    So mods,are cross forum debates the new normal now? :noblesteed:


    Jim Hackett, what was that about obeying rules like everybody else?

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    Yeah, point taken Albert but Don Jefferies is also a member here and the post quoted is also from this forum.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Keith,

    I certainly never expected to be defended by Len Colby. I believe he has recently apologized to you on the EF for associating you with Charles Drago's comments.

    I never chided this forum over who they should and shouldn't ban. I don't like banning anyone, and in my role as moderator at the EF, I usually try and persuade the other mods against doing so. I defended Jim Fetzer here, as I defended him on the EF.

    I'm obviously not a moderator here, and the DPF is free to run this forum the way they want. I try to always keep an open mind- if you recall, I also incurred Charles' wrath for defending Albert Doyle, whom I had disagreed with strongly in the past.

    Someday, perhaps I'll end up defending you on something.

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    Colby is a bottom scraper going after an easy target. He's trying to cause disruption. Colby is a person who argues the Warren Report position on Kennedy's assassination. In other words, he has no credibility.

    The elephant in the room here is Israel's involvement in the assassination. I don't want to go there for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Doyle View Post
    Albert,

    Seeing as you're having a one-way debate here which involves another forum and their members.I suggest you get in touch with John Simpkin and see if you can join his forum.You know,like having a real honest discussion/debate.

    So mods,are cross forum debates the new normal now? :noblesteed:


    Jim Hackett, what was that about obeying rules like everybody else?
    Albert actually tries to pile-on in this thread?Duly noted ass.......
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

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    I certainly never expected to be defended by Len Colby. I believe he has recently apologized to you on the EF for associating you with Charles Drago's comments.
    Thanks for the response Don.But,I have to say,you're a little dense if you think the provocatuer Colby was just defending you.He USED YOU to attack this forum,Charles,and me.

    But,I have to run...many miles to drive today.
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

  8. Default I am not involved.

    I am not a mod.
    I posted nothing in this thread.
    My opinion is private.
    It may be guessed
    but I will not help if one must guess.
    Color Me Gone....
    :orly:
    Read not to contradict and confute;
    nor to believe and take for granted;
    nor to find talk and discourse;
    but to weigh and consider.
    FRANCIS BACON

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Jeffries View Post
    I don't like banning anyone
    Fair enough.

    But a Sunsteinian psyop is not a person.

    And the Military Censor is a process following rules.
    "It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
    "Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
    "They are in Love. Fuck the War."

    Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

    "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
    The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Klimkowski View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Don Jeffries View Post
    I don't like banning anyone
    Fair enough.

    But a Sunsteinian psyop is not a person.

    And the Military Censor is a process following rules.
    How have the posters on the JFK debate not noticed that "Colby" is there instantly with an opinion?
    Suddenly he's all knowledgable and interested in the assassination of JFK. Pleeease.
    Why do people respond to this entity?
    I know over there they call it "democracy" but come on, the LNs there seem to have way too much time to argue. (Like they don't have a job or life)
    That JFK was killed by a conspiracy is not open to argument here.
    By their rules Posner, McAdams, Rahn, Billo etc. would all be welcome there. To "debate"
    What a farce. There is plenty in these deep matters TO debate, but conspiracy or lack thereof is no on the table.
    At least not on these pages.
    Dawn

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