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    Myra Bronstein Guest

    Default Announcing the DPF Book List

    The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html.

    Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

    Thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myra Bronstein View Post
    The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html.

    Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

    Thx.
    Oh, my....some rainy day when I'm full of energy I can expand that by 100 fold, literally....and still be citing the best books - but some very arcane ones!
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Thanks for doing this Myra. Having the definitive book list will be a great resource for everyone.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myra Bronstein View Post
    The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html.

    Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

    Thx.
    I nominate two of the greatest pieces of detective work ever committed to print.

    The first cited is essential to understanding the deep political tradition of the US; and reminds us - and, boy, do we need reminding - that there was a very different interpretive model flowing within the popular imagination in 1963. (So much so, in fact, that Allen Dulles sought to introduce works to his commissioner colleagues designed to negate it.)

    The second shows how well-tried and -tested are some of the techniques of framing and fabrication (and torture); and reminds us that Douglass had at least one precursor in the Catholic tradition in opposition to state terrorism.

    Otto Eisenschiml. Why Was Lincoln Murdered? (London: Faber & Faber Ltd., 1937)

    John Gerard, SJ. What Was The Gunpowder Plot? The Traditional Story Tested By Original Evidence (London: Osgood, McIlvaine & Co., 1897).

    Paul

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    Myra Bronstein Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Myra Bronstein View Post
    The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html.

    Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

    Thx.
    I nominate two of the greatest pieces of detective work ever committed to print.

    The first cited is essential to understanding the deep political tradition of the US; and reminds us - and, boy, do we need reminding - that there was a very different interpretive model flowing within the popular imagination in 1963. (So much so, in fact, that Allen Dulles sought to introduce works to his commissioner colleagues designed to negate it.)

    The second shows how well-tried and -tested are some of the techniques of framing and fabrication (and torture); and reminds us that Douglass had at least one precursor in the Catholic tradition in opposition to state terrorism.

    Otto Eisenschiml. Why Was Lincoln Murdered? (London: Faber & Faber Ltd., 1937)

    John Gerard, SJ. What Was The Gunpowder Plot? The Traditional Story Tested By Original Evidence (London: Osgood, McIlvaine & Co., 1897).

    Paul
    Thanks very much Paul. I added them to the list. I never even heard of the Gunpowder Plot so I'm intrigued. I had to look it up to see what it was about.

  6. Default An Example of a Book Plan

    One way to approach conspiracy books or books about the deep political structures is to have a plan.

    I read a lot of books but I didnt know much of anything useful until I was in my late 40s or so. That was when I discovered Lloyd Millers (appropriately named) Project journal. The Project is a periodical that was published in hard copy from 1984 to 1995 by Millers organization A-Albionic Consulting and Research.

    An early masthead defined it:

    An Executive Summary of the Progress
    Of a Private Network of Researchers and
    Scholars Dedicated to Identifying the
    Nature of the Ruling Class/Conspiracy.


    and the initial hypothesis (also on the masthead) was:

    The British Empire is the Central
    Phenomenon of World History
    Since the Fall of Rome.


    The May-June 1985 Project already had a slightly revised hypothesis:

    The British Empire is the Central
    Phenomenon of World History
    Since the Decline of the Vatican.


    and it was the first Book Review Issue. And the first review was of The Empire of the City by E.C. Knuth. The first paragraph:

    The Empire of the City: World Super State; 130 Years of Power Politics in the Modern Era by E. C. Knuth is the only book of which I am aware that explicitly approximates the overall conspiracy theory of history which the Project is pursuing. Needless to say, it is useless to read the Project if you have not read Empire of the City.

    The Project is (among many other things) an open ended invitation to a lifetime of study that can lead one in many directions. For example, a student starting at the beginning will get to Lyndon LaRouchewho Miller doesnt like or trustin short order. A ground breaking study of Carroll Quigley (Tragedy and Hope, The Anglo-American Establishment) will also soon follow.

    One book considered extremely important to The Project is The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age by Dame Frances Yates. This is an example of where I ran into some connections in later reading.

    The Projects study of City banking lead me to The Warburgs by Ron Chernow. A fascinating part of that work is to learn about the black sheep of the fab five Warburg brothers, Aby, who spent much of his life supposedly frittering away some of the hard earned banking wealth of his brothers collecting books, many of them about occult symbolism in art. This led eventually to the establishment of the Warburg Institute which was the publisher of The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age, a book the LaRouche publications also considered very important. So too Peter Levenda:

    Dame Frances Yatesthe aforementioned historian, of the University of London, the British Academy, the Warburg Institute, and the Royal Society of Literaturehas written extensively on the Elizabethan period and the Renaissance, with a particular focus on occult literature, thus elevating the study somewhat above the usual relegation to the attention of cranks and publicity seekers. In her The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age she make an interesting, if daring, claim that the Puritan movement owed much to occult ideology current in England at the time (Sinister Forces [book one], p. 16)

    In addition to The Project journal, Lloyd Millers book catalogs are an education in themselves. I am attaching a copy of an early version. His organization was also in the book selling business at the time.

    Does anyone else have an example of a plan they can recommend?

    Ron Williams
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    Last edited by Ron Williams; 04-13-2009 at 03:02 PM.

  7. Default Recommended JFK books for the list

    Heritage of Stone (1970). Jim Garrisons post Clay Shaw trial manifesto. More philosophical and analytical than On The Trail of the Assassins. Pays eloquent tribute to the courage and loyalty of his staff for pressing ahead for the truth even after they knew they had taken on forces which were really too great for any district attorneys office to engage. Calls for restoration of the republic as the only way to bring the assassins to justice and to reverse the downward slide of the nation. (recommendation Essential)

    Destiny Betrayed: JFK, Cuba, and the Garrison Case (1992). By Jim DiEugenio. Early defense of Jim Garrison written before the release of documents by the ARRB. The beginning of Garrisons vindication. (recommendation Essential)

    Let Justice Be Done: New Light on the Jim Garrison Investigation (1999), by William Davy. Jim DiEugenio called it New Orleans de-classified. Was written after the release of the ARRB records. An important part of the continuing vindication of Garrison. Contains the brilliant Robert Spiegelman Afterword essay: "Garrisons Invitation to the Millennium Ball: Where Dallas 63 Meets the Age of Globalization." (recommendation Essential)

    Also regarding Harvey and Lee. I recommend adding something about how it also details like no other book the outrageous malfeasance of the FBI in the JFK investigation.

    Ron Williams
    Last edited by Ron Williams; 04-15-2009 at 02:04 AM.

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    Myra Bronstein Guest

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    Thank you for all your input Ron. I'll add them.

    I wonder if we should have a reading list as well, for articles and essays and book reviews and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myra Bronstein View Post
    Thank you for all your input Ron. I'll add them.

    I wonder if we should have a reading list as well, for articles and essays and book reviews and such.
    I think that would be fine to have with in the defitive book list.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Myra Bronstein Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Myra Bronstein View Post
    Thank you for all your input Ron. I'll add them.

    I wonder if we should have a reading list as well, for articles and essays and book reviews and such.
    I think that would be fine to have with in the defitive book list.
    Just have a Definitive Reading List that includes books and articles?

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