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    The Opus Dei, SMOM and Gladio false flag assassin, Eduardo Rózsa-Flores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Klimkowski View Post
    A speculative post.

    I know of two major BBC figures - one a filmmaker, the other a correspondent - from the so-called "golden age" of broadcasting from the 1950s through to the 1980s whose work is held up as groundbreaking and archetypal. Family members have confirmed to me that these great broadcasters were simultaneously working for British intelligence.

    A clue lies partly in their movements: they could be found in Hungary in 1956, in Vietnam in the early 1960s, in Czechoslovakia in 1968, in Chile in 1973 etc. Sometimes observing, sometimes perhaps more.

    There is nothing too surprizing in this. However, intelligence agents themselves will closely examine the physical location of individuals they suspect of being more than they seem.

    This way of thinking, of analyzing, a person's life throws an interesting glow on the life of Rosza Flores snr. He was, variously, a Hungarian-Austrian, perhaps with some Jewish blood, who was a staunch communist and yet taken under the wing of the French government. So much so that they paid for his studies in Paris, then sent him to Bolivia to conduct ethnographic studies of "the French music of the Andes" in 1952.

    To recap, in the immediate post-WW2 period with an Iron Curtain dividing Europe, the French govt paid for a young Hungarian-Austrian communist to live in Bolivia and conduct an entirely esoteric anthropological project.

    At this stage, Bolivia was the favoured destination for the Nazi/Vatican/Paperclip ratlines for those Nazis who were considered useful but who couldn't be sufficiently bleached of their wartime atrocities to work openly in Europe or North America.

    According to Eduardo Rosza Flores, his ethnographic artist father joined the tiny Bolivian Communist party and was "logistically" involved with Che Guevara, before being expelled from the Bolivian Communist party for his links with the revolutionary guerilla. Guevara did indeed mistrust the Bolivian Communist party, which was oriented towards Moscow rather than Havana. Che was eventually betrayed to a CIA hit squad by Bolivian elements, and his corpse carved up - in an almost ritualistic fashion - in a SMOM hospital.

    Hmmm.

    The Rosza Flores family next appear in Chile, in 1973. Officially, they are great supporters of Allende, and have to flee from Generalissimo Pinochet's fascist regime. They reappear in communist Hungary, where young Eduardo receives a military education, and studies at the highly classified Dzerzhinsky Military Academy.

    For a non-Russian to be educated at the Dzerzhinsky Military Academy was presumably quite an honour. It can be read several ways: as reward for services rendered; in the spirit of keeping one's friends close, and one's enemies even closer.

    According to young Eduardo, it is around this time that he starts rebelling against communism and Stalinism. However, that doesn't stop him becoming involved with Carlos the Jackal. The official Flores family version claims that his father had worshipped Che Guevara, and the son idolized Carlos.

    Of course quite who was running the Jackal is a matter of much controversy.

    Eduardo takes several journalistic jobs, and ends up as a stringer for the BBC at the beginning of the Balkan Wars in 1991.

    A CIA officer once looked deep into my eyes and hrrumphed: "Young man, 'journalist' is the flimsiest cover in the world."

    Indeed, Rosza Flores rapidly abandons the pen for the Uzi, and forms a "Croatian International Brigade" which specializes in dirty tricks and seems very keen to obscure its funding and alleged links to arms & drugs deals. I can find no record that Rosza Flores possesses any Croatian blood. However, for services rendered, the butcher Tudjman makes him an honourary Croatian and a "Major" to boot.

    These services include persistent allegations that he had several potential whistleblowers - including investigative journalists - executed, and then manufactured evidence attempting to blame these murders on the Serbs.

    A dirty war indeed. Although part way through the horror in the Balkans, this son of a Jew and a Catholic, this communist turned extreme nationalist dog of war, becomes a Muslim.

    Perhaps it helped in the Balkan drugs and arms smuggling business...

    Whatever, Rosza Flores soon stars in a notorious anti-Serb propaganda film entitled "Chico". A bit of legend-creating perhaps?

    He also becomes linked - at a very senior level - with Jobbik, a Hungarian neo-fascist party, which allegedly wants to expel the Roma from Hungary.

    The Balkan Wars were notorious for their ethnic cleansing. Rather than being sickened by these horrors, it appears that Rosza Flores enthusiastically embraced doctrines of racial hygiene. In Bolivia, he is linked with the Camba Nation - a secessionist movement for the rich, land and mineral owning Croatian & German rulers of Santa Cruz. Camba Nation allegedly possesses a youth wing which has attacked genuinely indigenous peasant Aymara and Quechua movements.

    Rosza Flores also now advocates National Anarchism - best described as a mystical form of National Socialism with acknowledged influences such as Aleister Crowley and the notorious Chilean diplomat, Miguel Serrano, whose philosophy has been described as "Esoteric Hitlerism".

    He's also rabidly anti-Zionist (anti-Jew?), further evidence perhaps of increasingly neo-Nazi thinking.

    And a spokesperson for Opus Dei.

    After the 2009 ambush, a member of his Bolivian paramilitary group requests help and assistance from the St John of Jerusalem Knights of Malta. Aka the Sovereign Military Order of Malta: the military-intelligence group involved in everything from Gladio to P2.

    So, when did this family enter the house of mirrors? The Borgesian corridors where nothing is as it seems?

    Who was first to step through the looking glass? The father or the son?

    Eduardo Rosza Flores' official biography is almost as tangled and implausible as another plaything of the world's intelligence agencies, one Lee Harvey Oswald. So implausible that he can be claimed, blamed and denied by almost everyone.

    Like many on DPF I regard Oswald as a patsy who most probably didn't even fire the weapon alleged to be his. However, Oswald was possibly a witting or unwitting part of a broader plot to use a team of highly professional snipers to assassinate JFK.

    The international team assembled around Eduardo Rosza Flores also included a sniper and other individuals with the range of skills one might expect to find in a professional hit squad. Their targets allegedly included President Evo Morales.

    Unlike America's Secret Service in Dallas, it appears that the Bolivian Secret Service did an excellent job in detecting an assassination plot and liquidating the would-be murderers before they could conduct their grisly mission.

    But then Fletcher Prouty tells us the American Secret Service was stood down by those with the power to do so...
    So it was Leroy Fletcher Prouty then, who first originated this concept of the Secret Service standing down? I just want to register my complete and utter disregard for anything that Prouty has ever said or written on the topic of the JFK Assassination. In a strange public confession at a COPA meeting, Prouty admitted that not only did he have utter contempt for the Kennedys but that he was somehow glad that he was dead. He then said: "I guess we taught the Kennedys a thing or two." He refused to say exactly what he meant by that statement when called out on it. This guy inserted himself into the JFK research community dead set against exposing any of his friends or associates in the plot. Color him biased and therefore useless.
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    Jan: a VERY speculative post, indeed....:D

    Rosza Flores presented himself as a patriot that came to defend Santa Cruz from the attac of Morale's militia.

    WHY DEFEND ??...

    -Was not the first time that Morales militia try to make a coup against oppositor governors: The first time was in Cochabamba, where they put on fire the governor office and kill a young boy cutting his throat with machetes in front of his father, "because he looks like a camba".

    Second time was in Pando, where they organize a march against the governor with the intent to take the governor's office too. The governor ask for police and military help to content the march because he fear confrontation, but they tell him that "nothing they can do coz Morales dont give any order to them", so they leave the capital of Pando defendless.
    Pando governor Leopoldo Fernández then send an engeneer with heavy machinery to build a big ditch in the road to stop the march, but Morales militia kill him and severly wounded his companion, continuing the march. They leave him because they think he was dead. Previously, the marchers have wounded with firearms two prefectural employees, also.

    When the dead and the wounded was finally carried to a little population named "El Porvenir" near Pando's capital, the people, family and friends gets angry because they where well known persons. So they arm themselves and a firearms confrontarion happens. Many people die that day, but mostly from Morales militia that flew away. "Investigations" where carried latter that blame the oppositor Pando governador with the shameful complicity of Morale's friends UNASUR "investigative" commision and Morales judges. So shameful, that many of the reported death by such commission where latter found voting in the elections. But Morales put in jail an innocent (Pando governor Leopoldo Fernández, sitll in jail more than a year ago, with not even a judiciary process open) and put HIS governor there. After that, Pando region suffers a campaign of terror carried by Morales UTARC and "masked heavy armed military with venezuelan and cuban accent".

    In Santa Cruz people saw that .When Morales militia marched against Santa Cruz (nobody knows where come the money to pay such movilization of thousands of people), Rosza Flores suddelnly come as a savior, asking money to stop them and defend Santa Cruz. Many frigthened people believe in him and begin to support him with money, but soon they realize that he doesen't come to defend, but to live a good life with that money, so they stop fouding him. But he (Rosza Flores) have allready collected a list of many oppositor names contacted and send it to his real contractor, Morales.

    When oposition money stops (and the good life stile too. He lived in good and centrical expensive Hotels at the view of police, very strange for a man that come to make a "political assasination"- The first thing that police control evrywhere are the hotels-) and Rosza Flores ask for more money to his governmental contact, Raul Garcia Linera (Brother of vice-president Alvaro Garcia Linera), threatening him to reveal the plot to the media (his name and e-mails was finded from the archives of Rosza computer, information leaked by a policeman). Big mistake. They was fastly AND CONVENIENTLY killed by Morales special (killer) force, the UTARC (death people don't say anything).

    Later authopsies carried in Europe to Rosza Flores death comrades reveal that with no doubt, they where EXECUTED and not "killed in a battle that last half hour", ar UTARC report says.

    SPECIAL NOTE: There are pictures of the commander of the Morale's UTARC (Walter Andrade) drinking beers and having parties with Rosza Flores in previos weeks of his execution. Also, a constatation that Rozsa Flores and Raul Garcia Linera where comrades, roommates in Europe and probably lovers (is well known that Vice-president Alvaro Garcia Linera, his brother Raul and Rosza Flores where homosexuals. Raul is bissexual).

    -After that execution, the "proofs" against oppositors begin to appear, and oppositors begin to be kiddnapped in the middle of the night and carried to La Paz, to be prosecuted by Morales Public Prosecutor and Morales Judges. They still are in jail with no proofs against them. Others flew away no matter innocent, because when Morales Judge accuse you, there is no chance to prove your innocence. "Proofs" begin to appear and "eyewitness" too. Not even a chance to pay a good attourney because your money and goods are "freezed" and seized as you are "enemy of the state", so you have to accept an attourney named by Morales judge.

    - Hope this put things more clear to you. I don't know what Rosza Flores did in Europe and other parts of the world, but I know what he did HERE. I have post a lot information about in this forum.


    Rosza Flore's family is well known in the city as old leftists and because their work in art related activities. They are quiet and good persons.

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    Just a brief reply Ruben.

    According to Flores from Hungarian media from his last interview:
    Rózsa-Flores claimed that a Bolivian national requested him to return to Bolivia and help establish a milita for the Bolivian city of Santa Cruz, in response to perceived central government abuses. He claimed that local politicians wanted to establish the militia and that he was asked to create it based upon his Croatian military experience. He claimed the militia role was to be one of self-defense in the event of aggression by either central government or native "Indian" paramilitary forces and not to attack anyone.
    In other words he was paid to fight against the Morales government. Whoever employed him liked his work in the Balkans and wanted the same to happen in Bolivia. The Santa Cruz elite want to secede (like the Balkan statelettes ) Morales wants to unite.

    Ruben said:
    Rosza Flore's family is well known in the city as old leftists and because their work in art related activities. They are quiet and good persons.
    But not so 'left' that they were imprisoned or executed or even apparently under suspicion by various anti-communist regiemes (and their sponsors) that have existed in Bolivia. 1,000's of Bolivians were but not the Roszas family. Unbelievable. How is the family now supporting the 'leftist' Morales government? Or do they just support them through their 'art'? Also, artists come in all political beliefs not just leftist.
    Ruben said:
    I don't know what Rosza Flores did in Europe and other parts of the world, but I know what he did HERE.
    EFR was involved in the murder of two journalists, Swiss national Christian Würtenberg (who was in the First International Unit), and British photographer Paul Jenks. He was also linked to the murder of one of his dogs of war Anthony Mann Grant and countless civilians in the Balkans. For his murderous work he was awarded Croatian citizenship by the butcher Tudjman.

    I presume this is the photo you are referring to:
    Perhaps it is genuine. Perhaps not. I find the over exposure on the right a bit odd. Especially if digital. Also, I see nothing particularly sinister about it and don't see why you would jump to the conclusion that because he is a photo with Andrade that EFR is a Morales stooge. It more likely is Andrade checking up on EFR and co to see what they are doing in town.

    Ruben said:
    When Morales militia marched against Santa Cruz (nobody knows where come the money to pay such movilization of thousands of people
    LOL!!!! Only rich people have to pay their stooges and force their maids and farm and factory workers to protest in support of their continued exploitation. You may find it amazing but some people actually do things for nothing but the pleasure of it. Some times people actually believe it is the right thing to do and don't expect to be paid. It wouldn't occur to them that money should enter into it. Indeed some forgo a days pay to participate.

    Ruben said:
    Rosza Flores ask for more money to his governmental contact, Raul Garcia Linera (Brother of vice-president Alvaro Garcia Linera), threatening him to reveal the plot to the media (his name and e-mails was finded from the archives of Rosza computer, information leaked by a policeman). Big mistake. They was fastly AND CONVENIENTLY killed by Morales special (killer) force, the UTARC (death people don't say anything).
    Can we have some evidence apart from ruling class Santa Cruz gossip? Where are these 'leaked' emails? The name of the dead policeman?
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    Default Count Prof. George POPPER, Lieutenant General, President



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    Ph.D. degree at International Budo Academy in "Sport diplomacy" 2001
    Ph.D. degree at Pro Deo University in the field of Management and Protocol in "Diplomatic Protocol" 2001
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    Budapest and the Adyliget Law Enforcement College seemed to be blessed with a patch of blue skies during the VIII. SEC-tember event of the IBSSA, starting as of the 8th to the... 12th September. In a mix of languages – only professionals in the business understand – hands were shaken and smiles exchanged. The security professionals were back in order to finish something they started 4 years ago. Newbies gathered around and listened to the stories, preparing themselves for the unkown.

    The following nationalities were among the International audience: Dutch, Belgian, Greek, Swiss, Romanian, Cambodian, Italian, Swedish, Latvian, Slovak, Slovenian and Syrian. Not to forget the hosts, the Hungarians. All different nationalities, but only one language that of the professional bodyguard.
    The Master Teacher / Instructor corps was just as impressive, consisting of a former SAS-operative from Scotland – Mr. Eddie STONE, a Police chief from Singapore – Mr. Stephen CHEE, a former SWAT from the USA – Mr. Karl DELAGUERRA, a Slovakian Shooting expert – Mr. Stefan ÁCS, Belgian Military – Mr. Eric DUYSHAVER and Mr. Jean-Pierre HAMERLINCK, Hungarian Bomb Squad – Mr. Lajos TURAI, and a former Dutch Royal Marine – Mr. Marc LANDMEIER. And this year's special guest speaker was: Ms. Krisztina SZLOBODNYIK – editor, reporter of RTL KLUB TV station. All experts in their fields, ready to teach, make people better, stronger and ready for the yet unknown.

    This year, techniques acquired during past SEC-tember events were brought together in what accumulated into a total package of embus, debus, foot work, medical expertise and the special, little known skills of a close protection operative. Trade secrets were exchanged during the class and during the social hours. Handling the media, using uncoventional weapons and the safety within the motorvehicle scene were just some of the skills touched this year.

    The Master Teachers were specially motivated by the high level of students, in which for example the Latvian Presidential Guard was represented. During the opening ceremony Dr. Valér DÁNOS – ret. police brigadier-general, Director of Law Enforcement and Crime Prevention Institute of the Ministry of Justice and Law Enforcement, stressed out that the IBSSA, under the expert leadership of Prof. George POPPER - President, is evolving every year more and more towards an expert organization, where professionals worldwide are proud to teach and to learn.

    The SEC-tember training seminar allows for individual members to evolve as well. On Friday (11th September), the students had the opportunity to test themselves, their knowledge and skills to achieve a professional IBSSA recognition in their specialization. Challenging and mostly a moment of realization.

    All the hard effort of both students and teachers were brought to an end during the Saturday banquet dinner at the Petneházy Huszárcsárda, where Prof. George Popper had the honour to introduce the presence of Shihan Joseph POLYÁK, Honorary Founding Member of the IBSSA.

    According to SEC-tember tradition, people with exceptional skills or demonstrated expertise were also awarded with the following official IBSSA awards of the training:

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    VIII. SEC-tember BEST SHOOTER Mr. Eugen BALOG (Slovakia)
    VIII. SEC-tember BEST FIGHTER Mr. Róbert ANDRÁS (Romenia)
    VIII. SEC-tember BEST BOMB TECHNICIAN Mr. Attila NAGY (Hungary)

    Also, the Organising Committee of the SEC-tember would like to express its thanks to the Instructors, Teachers and helpers for the professional assistance, who contributed much to the success of this event:
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    Mr. Attila K?vágó – Hungary
    Mr. Oliver Rózsa – USA
    Mr. Frank Philipoom – Netherlands
    Mr. Attila Kotlár – Hungary
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    Mr. Gyula Sira – Hungary
    Mr. János Hülber – Austria
    Mr. Brent N. Cann – USA

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    Magda:

    - Yeah Magda. Andrade only went to see what Rosza was doing in the town, and he stay to drink some beer an talk about football and climate.

    The photograpy is REAL and is not the only one. At the begining, governmet try to say that was a fake, UNTIL others come to light, that where showed to the media. Then government change his version (again): now says that was an "undercover" work from Andrade. But that gets things more complicated: The photograps were taked many time before the murders, and so government doesen't take any action when Rosza supposely detonate explosive devices and "try to kill the president" ż?...

    That means too that they have many,many oportunities to capture them ALIVE and with not a scratch ("terrorists" walk freely and unarmed in the streets and evrywhere), so they can talk about the people who support them. Any policeman knows that to capture terrorists ALIVE is a high priority, coz give the opportunity to COMPLETLY DEARTICULATE the organization by knowing the conspirators. If they are killed, secret die with them and the others can continue with conspiracy.

    The one at the right of Rosza is called "el viejo" and was the "star" eyewitness of government, until was discovered that he has lied in many of his accusations (as I remember, he try to link an oppositor with a meeting with Rosza, but oppositor was not in the country that date). After that shame, "el viejo" dissapeared under protection of government.

    - Yeah. Evrybody think in the begining that it was true that Rosza came to Santa Cruz to defend the city from the agressions of Morales militia and Morale's UTARC, we too see that interview just after his death. But latter, was discovered that interview was part of original plan. Supposely, when he gather all information regarding to Morales oppositors and conspiracy (organized by himself), he has to be "captured" and begin to accuse everybody (oppositors) in the justice court, making a big media Show. Then, that interview was planned to come to light, so there will be no doubt of his intentions. Now we know a little more to be shure that was part of the manipulation.

    - WRONG. Santa Cruz ellite never wanted to secede (that was a stupid blame selled by Morales to international media, that usually doesen't reason out the news they get. Any kid looking Bolivia's map knows why). The ellite tryed to shut any voice speaking of secesion. Simply because is bad for business. They depend of Pacific Ocean ports for their exports, and all roads to reach them are thru Aimaran or Quechua territory controlled by Morales. No way to avoid it.

    - As I said, Rosza's family are quiet and peaceful family. Not matter what you have read or movie you have see, if you don't cause troubles to a dictator, you can live even in regimes as the Pinochet ones. In fact, almost all leftist chileans who refuse to get involved in the fight against terrible regime of Pinochet, lived peaceful lifes there too.

    - LOL Magda, some day you have to come to Bolivia to see how marchs are managed. Trucks with food, coca and water are permanently supporting the marchers. Evrywhere they go, they have shelters. And (specially Morale's marchers) THEY ARE PAYED (Bs. 50 daly, plus food and drinks). I know because I had fiends marching too, that went to La Paz to seize the congress. Multiply that for THOUSANDS DALY and you will see the kind of money we are talking about (they even have enough money to support almost TWO MONTHs of NATIONAL roads blockage). No rich individuals or associations in Bolivia can have that kind of money. NGOs...??..Chavez..??...Drug traffikking...??. .. who knows. Is one of the most guarded secrets of Morales until now.

    - No dead policeman. A policeman LEAKED the information to the media about Rosza's computer content. That information was showed in TV. Journalist Carlos Valverde has a copy of it and he publically challenged the government to deny the authenticity of it. Government didn't until today.

    I allready post it the link to Carlos Valverde, but I don't have the date that information was released. His video files are there by date.

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    Huésped in message #1581 noted that the body referred to above was not the standard Order of Malta, but a Hungarian entity led by one Gyorgy/George Popper and affiliated with the International Bodyguard and Security Services Association, also headed by Popper. Popper is mentioned in an article titled 'Hungary has become a paradise for fake orders of knighthood'.

    Eduardo Rozsa Flores and Elod Toaso have been linked with Popper's order, while Tibor Revesz was (is?) associated with IBSSA.
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    Ruben - I find your attempts to frame this as a Morales plot against Santa Cruz, or perhaps a Morales plot against Morales himself, banal and historically ignorant.

    Rózsa Flores' activities from 1990 onwards clearly identify him as an assassin and mercenary willing to commit atrocities in the name of racist, far right, causes and blame them on his opponents. Tudjman, the Croatian butcher, made him an honourary Croatian for his dirty tricks and war crimes during the Balkan Wars.

    Here's some detail on Rózsa Flores' notorious Croatian International Brigade:

    a brigade of 380 foreigners, the First International Platoon, known by its Croatian initials, PIV.

    "He was an action-chaser," a Croatian journalist with years investigating connections between foreign mercenaries and Croatian secret services tells TIME. "PIV was a notorious group: 95% of them had criminal histories, many were part of Nazi and fascist groups, from Germany to Ireland." Rozsa rose to the status of Major and gained a reputation for brashness — before scandal hit in December of 1991. That's when a PIV enlistee named Christian Wurtemburg, a Swiss national, turned up dead — tortured and garroted. British journalist Paul Jenks began investigating Wurtemburg's death and was shot dead as well. (British journalist John Sweeney made a movie about the deaths in 1994 for Channel 4 called Dying for the Truth.)
    More recently, Rózsa Flores was linked with Jobbik, the far right Hungarian movement which is very close to openly espousing ethnic cleansing of the Roma (Gypsy) people. Some of his mercenary band were members of the Székely Legion, which is a Hungarian neo-fascist paramilitary group.

    Rózsa Flores was a self-proclaimed National Anarchist, which is a mystical, often Black-Sun worshipping, neo-Nazi cult. Several leading National Anarchists have been outed as intelligence agency assets.

    Rózsa Flores was also a spokesperson for Opus Dei, and other members of his Bolivian mercenary band - dead and alive - have received financial and legal aid from SMOM groups. With SMOM and Opus Dei, and the Croatian background, we are bang in the middle of deep political covert operations run utlimately by the same gang who brought us Gladio.

    Before it disappeared, Rózsa Flores' web pages further identified him as a supporter of Camba Nation, a Bolivian secessionist group. For more on Camba Nation and its funding by the secessionist European elite of Santa Cruz, see post eg #54 here:
    http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/for...8&postcount=54

    There are well-grounded allegations that the "US Ambassador for Ethnic Cleansing", Goldberg, was sent to Bolivia to help stoke ethnic tension prior to a break-up of Bolivia in the fashion of the deliberate destruction and fracturing of Yugoslavia. See eg posts #68 & #57 here:
    http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/for...3&postcount=68
    http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/for...8&postcount=57

    Fortunately, President Morales had the courage and intelligence to throw Goldberg out of Bolivia.

    Oh yeah, Rózsa Flores also gave an interview in Europe about his intentions:

    Croatia: Morales murder plot suspect 'wanted to form separatist army'

    Zagreb, 22 April (AKI) – A Croat allegedly involved in a plot to kill leftwing Bolivian president Evo Morales said in an interview that he travelled to Bolivia to form a secessionist army in the country's mineral-rich Santa Cruz region.

    “They called me from Bolivia, from Santa Cruz, they told me to come home, because the motherland calls,” Eduardo Rosza Flores said in a Hungarian media interview.

    The interview was recorded last September and excerpts from it were published on Wednesday by Croatian daily Jutarnji.

    Flores, who had dual Bolivian-Croatian nationality, was killed last week in Bolivia in a gunfight with police.

    “My task is to form an army in Santa Cruz as soon as possible and to be its leader,” Flores said. “I’m not a mercenary, nor will I ever be, but if motherland needs me I’m going,” said Bolivian-born Flores.

    In the interview, recorded just before he travelled to Bolivia, Flores said the Santa Cruz region opposed Morales’ rule and was fighting for autonomy.

    “Only if autonomy doesn’t succeed by peaceful means, will we proclaim independence,” he concluded in the interview.

    Flores, 49, a Bolivian of Croatian origins, said that his trip to Bolivia was well organised, including his air tickets and illegal crossing of the border from Brazil.

    Flores, nicknamed Chico, went to Croatia in 1991, to fight in the secessionist war against the former Yugoslavia.

    After the war ended with Croatia's independence in 1995, he retired from the army with the rank of major and lived in the Hungarian capital, Budapest.

    Apart from Flores, an Irishman, Dwyer Michael Martin, and a Romanian, Arpad Magyarosi were killed in a shootout with police in the eastern city of Santa Cruz.

    Two other suspected plotters, Elot Toaso, a Hungarian, and another Bolivian of Croat descent, Mario Francisco Tadic, were arrested during the gunfight.

    Morales said they were members of a gang planning to kill him and several other officials. The Bolivian press linked the plotters to an opposition leader in Santa Cruz, Branko Marinkovic, who is also of Croatian descent.

    The discovery of the alleged plot raised concern in Croatia about the fate of a sizeable Croat community in Bolivia after Croats were described in the media as separatists and fascists.

    Some Bolivian newspapers have made a link with the World War II fake or quisling state in Croatia that was formed by the leader of the separatist Ustashe movement, Ante Pavelic, under the auspices of Hitler and Mussolini.
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    Jan:
    Not an "attempt", not banal and not ignorant.

    You try to bring discredit to what I say by showing the felonies of Rosza Flores. But I plenty agree with you: he was a felon. I allready said before that in my opinion, he WAS A MERCENARY. He has fight for whatever has been payed, not matter leftist or rightist causes, even religious (that's seems not to be important to him, but only a useful mask to serve his real God: the money).

    If you really knew what Camba Nation is, you will laugh a lot. Morale's press try to show Camba Nation as a dark, rich and extremly powerful organization linked with the oligarchy, CIA, the Mossad or whatever, (you choose. His propaganda change according the circumstances), above the power of bolivian government and army.

    The reality is far different: only a little group of intelectuals (you can find there from moderate leftist to extreme rigthtist) who write press articles and opinions. You can amaze yourself how some leftist can join rightist people. The answer is the CAUSE they where defending: the right of local legal small landowners and indigenous local people to keep his ancestral land and culture to not be overhelmed by western aimaran or quechua people. Because they where taking land by assault, violating all laws.
    That was in the begining. Latter, they bring ideological support to the idea of Autonomic movment (as spanish autonomy model) and many other issues. Anyway, they never had any economic power or war capabilities:laugh:. All of them are worried family guys who earn their living by working hard. I know some of them.

    That movment not longer exist (some still try to keep it alive), because some of them where chased by Morales and others sepparate due to ideological differences about the issues they propose. For example: is TRUE that at least two of their representatives support the idea of PEACEFUL (by referendum) secesion IF the change of centralist model was not possible. That, instead of helping the movment, cause his discredit between bolivians and the harassment of Morales propaganda, that use them very conveniently making big noise, to discredit all Autonomic movment.

    If Rosza Flores use some Camba Nation representatives extrem ideas for his own pourpose, I don't think Camba Nation can be blamed for that. For shure, they don't pay Rosza Flores, simply because they don't have the money to do it.

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