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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Kovach View Post
    My sister went to school with "Lexie J Charvat in Streetsboro, OH. She (Lexie) graduated in 1967. This person did marry Donald O. Norton from Stow (no "e"), OH. According to the Alumni association of the school system, Lexie lives in Sebring, FL. They couldn't (or wouldn't) provide any info on her marital status. But they verified the names of her 2 children which were mentioned on one of these threads or in Armstrong's research papers (I don't remember which). Maybe if Lexie shows up next yr for their 50th reunion my sis can put me in touch with her and maybe she'll talk about her unusual husband. Or ex-hubby. Or whatever he is now.
    Now that is potentially very interesting! Please do NOT forget! Any way to contact her before the reunion [which she might not attend]?
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
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    Lexi J Norton


    from Whitepages:

    http://www.whitepages.com/name/Norton/Sebring-FL



    Lexie J Norton

    Age: 65+










    Previous locations

    • Avon Park, FL
    • Deerfield Beach, FL
    • Stow, OH
    • Jupiter, FL






    from Mary Ferrell:

    https://maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=6977
    A Record from Mary's Database

    Record:
    NORTON, DONALD P. ALSO USED "O."
    Sources:
    CIA 515; CIA 516, p. 3; CIA 517; CIA 927-926; CIA 1119-980; CIA 1230-515; CIA 1231-516, p. 3; CIA 1232-517; CIA [IMG]resource://skype_ff_extension-at-jetpack/skype_ff_extension/data/call_skype_logo.png[/IMG]1345-1057; CIA 1557-1114-B; Vancouver "Sun", Aug 5, 1963
    Mary's
    Comments:

    Re Canadian interview. Wife: Lexie. Daughter approximately 13/14 in 1988. Worked for Chambrel Health Care out of Fairlawn, Ohio. Tall man. Big. Stocky. Had a skin rash which prevented him from working in public on occasion. SS # 299 44 1326. His wife's social security number (Lexie J. Norton), was SS # 296 50 3228. Charring Cross house was sold at foreclosure sale. When Rencerzic bought house, there were 2 bullet holes in windows -- one 6' off floor in kitchen area (across front of house) and one 3' off floor in dining room area (at back). Next door neighbor, Marvin Feefe, remembers Donald P. Norton. When they left Seneca house, they had garage sale and left everything that did not sell.





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    Interesting, Jonathan.... thank you.

    Side-by-side pictures of LEE Oswald (from the document we're told was HARVEY Oswald's passport) and Donald's son Chris are pretty interesting.

    Anyone see a resemblance in the photos below?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hargrove View Post
    Interesting, Jonathan.... thank you.

    Side-by-side pictures of LEE Oswald (from the document we're told was HARVEY Oswald's passport) and Donald's son Chris Norton are pretty interesting.

    Anyone see a resemblance in the photos below?

    It's suggestive, but if Norton was a hoaxer with physical resemblance to the subject then heredity would suggest his son would have some resemblance also. Best of all would be a sensitive and professional interview with the lady, at a safe and public place where she can be put at ease. Every little statement witnesses make is just gold, compared to second and third party evidence. Good as that can be too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hargrove View Post
    Interesting, Jonathan.... thank you.

    Side-by-side pictures of LEE Oswald (from the document we're told was HARVEY Oswald's passport) and Donald's son Chris Norton are pretty interesting.

    Anyone see a resemblance in the photos below?

    That is quite an amazing resemblance - in facial features, hair patterns, and body build.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    I posted on this thread a few years ago about how my sister attended high school with the woman who married Donald Orestes Norton. They are still married after all these many years. However, Donald did not attend his last high school class reunion, and my sister's class did not have a reunion for lack of interest by it's remaining members. While Donald posted a blurb about his life over a decade ago on some classmates-like website, nobody my sister was able to contact from when they were teenagers could provide any information regarding Lexi. She seemed to cut all ties to her past. Her closest friends from school had lost track of her long ago. And my sister failed to find a contact for her family. So I was unable to approach either of those two people in an acceptable manner in a public place, as I hoped to do.

    Donald and Lexi have absolutely, positively, taken up residence in Medina County, Ohio for quite some time now. That is easily proven. This is their home area, relatively close to where they grew up. I have not tried to research any past or current real estate holdings they may still have or be involved with in the state of Florida further because I feel it's a moot point.

    I sent a private message to one of the posters on this forum whose integrity I respect informing him that to my satisfaction Donald Orestes Norton was....well, not the identity of the supposedly dead LHO. I've talked to several people that grew up with Donald Norton and have known him most of their lives, including auto parts dealers, hardware store employees, and sporting goods distributors. They all say it would be impossible for someone to be impersonating Donald because of his detailed knowledge of their lives back as far as the 1950's.

    The whole Mae Brussels/John Judge story would be satisfying to solve. But it's not going to lead to this guy from Stow, OH. Although the man Donald Orestes Norton from Ohio is an EXTREMELY curious character in regards to his military records, financial dealings, and employment history. But the people who have known him previous to the death of LHO can vouch for someone else not assuming his identity.

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    Ray,


    Thank you for this follow-up. It is a fascinating issue with great significance for those of us interested in the true biography of “Lee Harvey Oswald,” which I believe has been totally transmuted by the U.S. government and our country’s media.


    After more than two decades of reflection, I agree entirely with your assessment. My friend John Armstrong spent considerable time, money and shoe leather to investigate the Donald O. Norton/LEE Oswald claims, and he concluded that there wasn’t enough there for sure to even mention it in a thousand page book.


    My very personal opinion is that the man born as “Lee Harvey Oswald,” as opposed to the man shot dead by Jack Ruby, wouldn’t have lived for ten days after the assassination of JFK. But it’s just a guess, and I’ve been wrong before.


    Thanks again.

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    The Donald Norton I referred to in my previous post did not have a brother. Nobody, and I mean every single person that I spoke with that knew and grew up with him, and still knows him, told me that. They also said he is quite healthy and physically active at 67-68yrs of age - which he was last year when I contacted his classmates before and after their 50th reunion. That reunion was a 3 day affair, and Donald and Lexie did not show.

    Jim Hargrove,

    Robert Oswald just passed away recently. He lived to a ripe old age. I am unaware that John Pic has died. Margie seems to have given a longevity gene to her sons. Lee would be 78 now? 79 this year? But I too believe he was put to bed long ago. What could possibly be gained by letting him live under any identity? It's not like he was James Bond to begin with. He was just a schmuck. Dime a dozen. And frankly, his mother seemed to be a not too expensive whore when it came to selling out her family. She probably got put to bed around the same time Lee did.

    But that's just my guess. And I have been known to guess wrong before, also.

    Then again, my Mom told me to bet Charismatic in the Derby one year and he paid 60something to 1. Sometimes our guesses are good.

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    Updated on 29 July, after reading Mr. Kovach's post. Thank you, sir. I am adding link to source of the 1968 photo below of Norton in army uniform.
    The source article image also includes a contemporary photo of Lexie. I am trying to avoid displaying too many images in the same forum thread page due
    to a monthly bandwidth limit on a VPS account hosting these images. Readers will understand after viewing the article image.:

    Page A9, right side.: (Stable family history for an admitted (Mae Brussell to John Judge, in 1972) Oswald doppelganger, (except for a second bankruptcy filed in 1990s and up to 30+ address changes.)
    https://ufdcimages.uflib.ufl.edu/AA/...02-14-2019.pdf


    2018 Article Image Link (Source link directly above, but link at left provides immediate viewing. I blacked out grandchildren names.)


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    John Armstrong's Norton research folder :
    http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/51834


    Website of Norton (mentioned in 2013 article, below,) via the Wayback Machine :
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150222...com/index.html

    Article title (on Page B3) "REDS II - a reopening"
    https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00028423/01334 Page B3 (Norton no longer owns the website mentioned in his 2013 column, and no hyphen in url.)





    Donald & Lexie, 1968:


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  10. Default Nice photos Mr. Scully

    That picture of Harvey Oswald's caretaker/mother is interesting. I wonder who Louise Meyers was? I didn't know short, dumpy Margie had any friends?

    That pic of Lexie (with her husband Don) is exactly how I remember her from the 60s. She was this tall, statuesque young woman with legs right up to her neck that twirled batons with the band during half time of the high school football games. She hung out with my sister and her friends at our house a few times back then.

    The pictures previously posted by others of Don's son are so eerily resembling Lee Oswald. He looks more like Lee Oswald than he does his own father.

    While almost all the boys drafted from NE Ohio had to serve in Vietnam back then, a select few got sent to other places. Turns out they either had special skills or talents (electronics or some other specialty) or were deemed as good prospects for intelligence work. Those that got sent to Europe from here were trained in West Germany largely and only now are opening up about their training and experiences. (They are old men who kept it quiet all their lives, and now are feeling "screw it!") Donald O. Norton was sent to South Korea. Didn't Richard Case Nagell have quite a bit to say about that place? Unless Donald O. Norton wants to tell his story, we will never know. John Armstrong has pointed out some very curious things about his life. The man has led an interesting one. That's for sure. Everyone that was willing to speak with me said he was a different cat. Not cut from the same cloth. But he deserves his privacy. I refused to invade it. Sometimes we should let old dogs lie. If they feel like talking, good. Sometimes they don't, and never will. Glad I never lived in that world.

    Still liked that photo of Lexie, Mr. Scully

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