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  1. #21

    Default The CIA-SBU HQ in Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    The CIA and FBI in control in Kiev:

    http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/n...7724.bild.html

    The Ukrainian transitional government in Kiev will be dozens of specialists from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation advice. The learned Bild am Sonntag from German security circles.

    The officials should help on behalf of the U.S. government Kiev in ending the rebellion in the east of the country and establish a functioning security structure.
    35, Vladimirovskaya Street, Kiev, Ukraine - HQ of Ukraine SBU. Three upper floors' offices are reportedly occupied by CIA and FBI.

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.45...pUH2x63uHQ!2e0
    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

  2. #22

    Default Liashko capture confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    I heard this too though unconfirmed at this stage.
    In Mariupol detained deputy known anti-Russian statements

    http://ria.ru/world/20140511/1007371094.html

    "It is true that Ljashko caught soon and catch (Dmitry) Yarosh," - said the representative of the militias, noting that deputies from Mariupol transported to another place, but did not specify where.

    LUGANSK / slave, May 11 - RIA Novosti. Ukrainian presidential candidate, national deputy Oleg Lyashko detained in Mariupol, Donetsk militia proclaimed the People's Republic, RIA Novosti reported militia headquarters self Sloviansk Donetsk region of Ukraine.

    "It is true that Ljashko caught soon and catch (Dmitry) Yarosh," - said the representative of the militias, noting that deputies from Mariupol transported to another place, but did not specify where.

    Also in the Central Election Commission of Luhansk region RIA Novosti reported that the People's Republic of Donetsk militia told them about the arrest Ljashko in Mariupol about 15.00 (16.00 MSK). Militias noted that in Mariupol Ljashko tried to counteract the referendum on the status of the Donetsk region.
    Don't trade this vile creature, try him.

    Yarosh next, please.
    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

  3. #23

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    I heard this too though unconfirmed at this stage.
    In Mariupol detained deputy known anti-Russian statements

    http://ria.ru/world/20140511/1007371094.html
    Yeah, just before I went to bed I saw a statement from the mayor of Slaviyansk confirming his custody.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

  4. #24

    Default Mykola Volkov and Mark Gordienko

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Andriy Parubiy, co-founder of the Neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine (subsequently renamed Svoboda) and now head of the National Security and National Defense Committee (RNBOU), and two chums - freeze frame at 19 seconds to see all three together:



    Now for footage of these two Parubiy chums in the thick of things before and during the massacre.

    The mustachioed charmer on the right in the above is one Mykola (Мыкола), who is reportedly a "centurian," a leader of a Pravy Sector "100" combat group, no less, on the phone to the Interior Ministry:

    More on Mykola Volkov here:

    9. MAY 2014, 1:01
    ONE OF THE ACTORS IN THE ODESSA POGROM WAS IDENTIFIED


    One of the persons involved in the killings in Odessa was a former criminal with good contacts to high ranking politicians in Ukraine. We recently reported about a dubious person called Mikola, who was involved in the burning of the trade union hall in Odessa. He was seen shortly before the massacre on the phone with the the Ukrainian interior minister Arsen Avakov and later caught on camera shooting with a pistol on the people trying to escape the mayhem. He was now identified. His name is Mikola Volkov. He was born in 1981 and had a criminal past. He was searched in 2012 officially by an arrest warrant.

    Moreover, the day before, he was also recorded on video personally meeting with Andriy Parubiy. Andriy Parubiy is part of the transitional government and the current head of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine. Mr. Parubiy began his political career in the 90s in the Social-National Party of Ukraine (now Svoboda) and led from 1998-2004 the armed wing of the fascist party. Since 2012 he is in the Ukrainian Parliament as independent candidate on the list of Yulia Tymoshenko’s fatherland party. From December 2013 to February 2014 he was “commandant of Euromaidan”, where he trained armed corps to protect the square. His fascist political views never changed during the years.

    This video shows Andriy Parubiy speaking to Mikola Volkov on the 29th of April 2014 at a checkpoint of the Ukrainian government, that was set up near Odessa. It gets more clearer that the Ukrainian government is deeply involved in the burning of the trade union building. Mikola Volkov seems to have contacts to high ranking Ukrainian politicians.

    Gordienko is the man on Volkov's right as the latter recites his script - for the benefit of the camera - while on the phone to Arsen Avakov. Here is Gordienko - biker, psychohistorian, and Maidan activist - in the company of the CIA's Paribuj:

    140429 Parubij Gordienko Odessa1.jpg - Copy.jpg
    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

  5. #25

    Default Interview with a survivor: the SBU cover-up

    Many victims were taken down to the basement and murdered there, apparently by beating. These bodies do not appear on any stills or film footage I have seen; and the Kiev junta seems intent upon suppressing details of this element of the massacre.

    Odessa Massacre: Eyewitness Account

    Stephen Lendman
    5-10-14

    http://rense.com/general96/odessmass.html

    Palestinians remember Deir Yassin. Poles remember Katyn Forest. Native Americans remember Wounded Knee.

    Odessans won't forget May 2. Nor will people of conscience everywhere paying attention.

    Massacring people in cold blood exposed the worst of fascist extremism. Neo-Nazi Right Sector thugs committed mass murder.

    Kiev putschists ordered them to do so. Washington OK'd their atrocity. What happened was well planned in advance.

    A previous article discussed it. About 300 Ukrainians were slaughtered. Fire didn't take them. Neo-Nazi hoodlums did.

    Mass murder was mostly inside Odessa's Trade Union House (TUH) building. People perished inside from gunshot wounds, strangulation and beatings. Some were thrown from windows. They didn't jump.

    Photographic evidence is damning. Independent videos don't lie. Nor does graphic eyewitness testimony.

    A survivor told what she saw. Anatoly Shary interviewed her. In translation she explained what she witnessed firsthand.

    A video in Ukrainian shows what she said below. It includes Shary's comments. The full text is as follows:

    00:07 Regarding the exact time, I can’t tell you, because - let's see - how did it go -

    00:11 When I was on the Cathedral Square, I personally saw with my own eyes how a man of maybe around 40 - they cut -

    00:23 They pushed him on the ground and cut his throat - and they shouted, "Glory to Ukraine."

    00:29 He kept saying, barely audibly, simply that, "I'm a native of Odessa. I'm from Odessa."

    00:36 And they, sort of, "No, you're not from Odessa." And then they continued -

    00:42 Anatoly Shary: This was right on the Cathedral Square?

    00.43 This was right on the Cathedral Square. Right there.

    00:49 So, I stayed there just a couple of minutes. I simply - I don't know. I could not be there. I could not watch all that and I left.

    00:58 Then I hailed a taxi and drove to the Kulikovo Field.

    01:08 When I arrived there, the barricades were already erected

    near the tents. They were built like this.

    01:20 The barricades were - there were tires - then various billboards -

    01:30 The sacks (with sand) were there.

    01:36 Everything happened so quickly. Someone said that

    we all have to get inside the Trades Union building.

    01:42 Everyone quickly began carrying everything into the building

    and reinforcing everything inside.

    01:49 So, people were getting into the building very quickly, because all those Pravoseky (Right Sector neo-Nazis), those fiends - they were arriving on the black-and-white minibuses.

    02:12 And some were getting there on foot, and others by some other means.

    02:18 So, we went to the building.

    02:28 There were men, both young and older, and women were there too.

    02:31 I saw several adolescents.

    02:37 Regarding the arms, I personally, did not see anyone with it.

    02:40 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    02:42 This I can say with certainty. How many - uh -

    02:50 As you come in into that building, immediately there was a staircase that went up.

    02:55 And you could also turn left there.

    02:58 To the right, I don’t remember, I saw some staircase and one could also turn there left.

    03:04 The majority of the people immediately ran up the stairs.

    03:14 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    03:16 Then, a man - I did not go up at all. I don't even know what was there.

    03:22 Then I turned to the left. There were several offices there.

    03:28 What was there. I entered one office. I don't recall the number.

    03:37 Everything was as if in a haze.

    03:40 There, the people - there was a large sack with bats.

    03:52 And the people went there, the men, naturally, and took them.

    03:56 The women went only with, sort of - we were given these little sacks that contained some cotton, the brilliant green, and the gauze. And that was it.

    04:07 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    04:11 That was the first floor.

    04:15 So, near that office, right opposite it, there was a service staircase, and it was blocked, but very badly. It was blocked with just several crates with documents. Other than that, one could go in and out easily.

    04:41 Then I went up to the second floor.

    04:50 There, basically, everybody was barricading only the intermittent doors.

    04:53 Everyone began to barricade them.

    04:57 I did not quite understand why barricade the intermittent ones.

    05:07 Because if…no one could get any further.

    05:14 So I was quite perplexed by that.

    05:19 and so - I was already - ah yes - when I was already on the second floor, I saw that many of the pro-Maindan (supporters) were gathering around.

    05:33 …they surrounded us all around.

    05:36 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    05:38 They surrounded us all around. They were all around the building.

    05:41 And then literally - well, I don't know, maybe in a couple of minutes.

    05:47 Before they started hurling the Molotovs, the water was cut off.

    05:50 There was no water in the building whatsoever.

    05:53 But the people - I saw some of them had managed to fill up several large bottles with water.

    06:00 They were pouring water near the windows.

    06:08 I was in shock. I asked the woman, "What are you doing?"

    06:10 I said, "You should never pour water, because water with gasoline will ignite even faster."

    06:18 I don't know, maybe even in school they tell you about this.

    06:25 So I went up to the third floor.

    06:32 I looked around and saw who was doing what.

    06:33 I have a photo where you can see. I personally orientated myself…on the third floor.

    06:45 Or intermediate between the second and the third

    on the stair landing.

    06:50 When it ignited, in the middle, behind the…and behind it.

    06:59 That middle part began to burn.

    07:03 So, I don’t know how much time passed. I could not say precisely, but no more than thirty minutes passed since we got there.

    07:11 Anatoly Shary: How much...

    07:18 No more than 30 minutes. Maybe a bit longer.

    07:20 I cannot tell you the exact time just like this, but

    07:24 30 minutes definitely passed since we got there.

    07:27 Then I went downstairs and heard shooting inside the building.

    07:37 They were shooting inside the building.

    07:44 A man was standing near me. He had a fire extinguisher.

    07:46 He said, "Don’t go down there. The Right Sector is already there."

    07:51 I said, "What do you mean? How could they get here so fast?"

    07:54 He said, "Don’t go down there."

    08:02 I understood then that I should indeed listen to this person.

    08:09 And so I went up to the third floor and then,

    08:13 Probably in a couple of minutes, a man came up there. He was about 40 and was scrawny, very scrawny.

    08:26 He said, "Everybody, come down."

    08:29 I said, "Why?”"

    08:31 He said, "Everybody, come down. The Right Sector is there.

    We have to fight them off."

    08:35 Well, I don’t know. I personally did not go there.

    08:41 I saw a man and a woman go down there, and another two guys.

    08:50 How they came up - that I already did not see.

    08:55 Anatoly Shary: (…asks if somebody had something…)

    09:00 Who? I don’t know. I personally did not see any of our people who were there to have any arms.

    09:08 Look, then - on the third floor - where the third floor is -

    09:15 as you go up, you can turn to the right and you can turn left there too.

    09:21 If you turn right, you can make a quick dash for the staircase that stood...

    09:30 There - already! In that flight, a man was lying. He was burned.

    09:39 Uh - no - right, a man, and a woman was lying there too. They had been brought down from the fourth floor.

    09:47 In other words, already? How come? I don’t know.

    09:58 Then - on the stairs - maybe approximately 10 people were there.

    10:04 Everything was in smoke. Totally. Even though - I don’t even know.

    10:16 It was not quite smoke. I just cannot describe it to you in words.

    10:20 The smell was such that, if you stayed there 5 minutes,

    10:23 Right away you get like this, disoriented.

    10:27 Anatoly Shary: And what...

    10:30 I don't know what it was.

    10:33 I don't know what was burning like this.

    10:36 I am telling you, literally 5 minutes and that’s it. Everything starts looking hazy.

    10:39 Immediately I put on the mask and run out of there.

    10:46 When I came back to the stairwell, I heard a man

    10:47 who was - I don't know, probably he was on the second floor

    11:00 because, if he were on the first floor, I doubt I would hear him shout so loudly.

    11:04 He was shouting that - how was it he said,

    11:11 "The Right Sector are coming up, everybody run!"

    11:15 Now, we ran into an office. This was on the third floor.

    11:21 God, what number was it? Three hundred and thirty something - that was that office number.

    11:30 336 maybe? I think it was 336.

    11:37 In the room, there were, maybe - I don’t know - about 10 people. 10 men and there were four girls.

    11:55 Two girls were the medics. I and another girl, we sort of helped out. We assisted the best we could.

    12:06 We moistened them with water.

    12:12 Quickly, we were, sort of, like military medics brigade. Something like this.

    12:17 Right after I ran into this office.

    12:22 immediately after it, two men were brought in. They had suffocated.

    12:27 They laid them near the wall, like this.

    12:31 They were already dead.

    12:33 They had no pulse, no nothing.

    12:39 So, then - how long -

    12:45 In about 10 minutes, a man ran into the room.

    12:52 He wore a mask.

    12:57 The thing was - all the people that I saw there, the people who were there.

    13:07 None of us had masks.

    13:12 We only had medical masks and wore them like this or like that on the face.

    13:17 He ran into our room, in a mask, and said that the Right Sector was about to come up the stairs to where we were - any moment now.

    13:26 And he ran out.

    13:28 The men immediately began to move the filing cabinets and

    pile them up against the door.

    13:35 Anatoly Shary: (what they began to do?)

    13:37 The men took the filing cabinets that were there, and the desks, and began to barricade the door with them.

    13:46 And then literally, about 2-3 minutes passed - there were many shots.

    13:55 During those 2-3 minutes, I would estimate I heard about 20 shots.

    14:00 Anatoly Shary: (…in the hallway?)

    14:03 In the hallway. They were shooting in the hallway.

    14:06 But there were no screams at all. There was not a sound other than the shots. And nothing else.

    14:13 And then, these couple of minutes passed.

    14:19 They came by the door saying,

    14:23 "Let us in. Let us in. We are with you."

    14:26 "They are killing us."

    14:30 The men began to loiter, kind of, should we let them in or not.

    14:35 One man barely pushed over the filing cabinet, literally, just this distance...

    14:41 And at once, like this, they stuck the handguns out and began to shoot at us.

    14:47 They began shooting at once. The moment the filing cabinet was moved.

    14:52 So - how was it?

    14:56 Yes - they began shooting - I'm standing.

    15:01 I saw a guy. I think it was a guy. He was wearing a mask. He was looking straight into my eyes, and

    15:07 Just like this, he is shooting at me.

    15:10 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    5:12 The bullet swished by me like this. I turned around and

    15:13 Saw the bullet in the wall.

    15:15 I ducked.

    15:17 and hid behind the desk like this,

    15:20 So that they, sort of, don't kill me.

    15:22 And I hear him shout joyfully,

    15:26 “Hurray, hurray, I killed a Coloradka!"

    (Coloradka is a derogatory term for a female pro-Russian activist. It's derived from some similarity of brown and orange stripes of St. George ribbon to the Colorado beetle.)

    15:29 I was in such a shock.

    15:31 I can't even describe this to you.

    15:34 I did not -at all - I did not expect that a person could rejoice so much over killing someone.

    15:43 He was looking me straight in the eyes and simply shot at me.

    15:47 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    15:50 It was a military weapon.

    15:56 Then men - uh, we - women began to scream, "Save us, save us!"

    16:00 The men were holding the filing cabinets as hard as they could to prevent them from breaking in.

    16:07 And the thing was, the filing cabinets did not cover that doorway completely.

    16:15 Above, there remained a gap, into which -

    16:22 Well, it was possible to could climb through it, if one tried hard enough.

    16:30 If a person was not large, but of a slim physique.

    16:34 They began - they began to persuade us. I don't remember what they were saying.

    16:44 Because my ears were ringing.

    16:46 They began, maybe - how many - they sprayed on us at least two fire extinguishes, for sure.

    16:52 We were screaming. We were just begging them not to kill us.

    16:59 Uh - four - maybe - yes, they sprayed on us probably 3-4 cans.

    17:05 I want you to understand, that office had 2 large windows.

    17:10 But the gas that they sprayed on us just did not dissipate.

    17:14 At all! The cloud just stood there.

    17:18 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    17:23 What?

    17:24 Anatoly Shary: (…fire extinguisher…)

    17:28 Well, maybe. I don't know. So much was going on there.

    17:30 2 fire extinguishers for sure. They simply sprayed them on us from that gap above.

    17:38 While we were screaming and begging them not to kill us.

    17:41 Then, those 3-4 cans - I don't know what was in those cans -

    all that gas just remained in the room. It did not air out.

    17:56 Despite that the windows were opened.

    17:58 And then - the men struggled for a while,

    18:07 And, I don't know. They simply started to get disoriented from that gas.

    18:14 In those cans, I suspect, it was not a good gas at all, I'll tell you.

    18:20 How long we were in that room - I don’t know.

    18:25 maybe about 15 minutes, but you know, it seemed like eternity, honestly.

    18:33 As soon as the men decided to move away from those filing cabinets and let them in, the hell broke loose.

    18:46 Them spraying us with gas seemed like a fairyland in comparison.

    18:51 The moment they got in, they began shooting at the men right away,

    18:55 At once, without a word.

    19:00 And one of them shouted, "Don’t touch the chicks!"

    19:07 They sat us all four women on the chairs against the wall near the window.

    19:16 Like this. Here was the window and like this was the wall,

    19:22 And we sat like this, all in a row.

    19:25 Near the other wall, there were the bodies of those two men.

    19:35 We kept telling them to stop beating them, that they were dead,

    19:37 but they kept beating them with bats anyway.

    19:42 There were several Right Sector (thugs) there for sure and one of those who broke into our room said,

    19:56 "Don’t waste the ammo on them, better finish them off like this.”

    20:00 Well, I don't know - what to - how to describe this to you -

    20:08 Oh God.

    20:14 So, they decided

    20:22 to get us out - as they said, "Get the chicks out and all these…"

    20:25 Anatoly Shary: (…how…?)

    20:27 They decided it among themselves. I'm telling you word for word.

    20:35 "Let the chicks go.

    20:38 And all these go to the basement. We'll finish them off there."

    20:40 Anatoly Shary: (…) to the basement?

    20:43 To the basement.

    20:47 While they were deciding who of the women would go first,

    20:51 others had already started to take the bodies out.

    20:53 Anatoly Shary: How, what?

    20:57 While they were deciding who of the women would go out of the room first,

    20:59 the others were already taking the bodies out of the room, out of that office.

    21:05 They simply dragged them on the floor.

    21:10 Anatoly Shary: And what became of...

    21:15 What?

    Anatoly Shary: What became of your (…)?

    21:18 They killed everyone.

    Anatoly Shary: Killed everyone?

    21:20 Everyone at once.

    21:23 The man who

    21:25 was lying right by my feet.

    21:29 He was all covered in blood and

    21:30 he was breathing like this.

    21:33 They did not let me even to bandage his head.

    21:39 Anatoly Shary: He was (…)?

    21.42 They beat him with bats.

    21:44 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    21:48 They - yes - they said, "Don’t waste the ammo on them, better finish them off like this."

    21:53 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    21:56 The first woman they took away, I don't know where she is.

    22:08 Then, as soon as they took me out of that office, I began to beg them

    22:15 to please let me go, because

    22:17 I have a small child. Get me out of there...

    22:22 (cut)

    22:23 "…to hell with this one and this one off to the basement."

    22:24 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    22:30 I don’t know. It seemed, there you simply did as you wanted, if you wanted to kill then you killed, and if you wanted to get someone out then you got her out.

    22:38 I simply took my phone out and began showing them the pictures of my child.

    22:42 I said, "Take a look, this is my baby, he is only three."

    22:47 "I am a native of Odessa. What are you doing?”

    22:50 They could not care less.

    22:52 The only thing one of them said was that -

    22:55 He said, sort of - yes: "I am a Chernomoretz (Odessa soccer team) fan.

    23:01 And no way in hell will you ever get for yourselves Odessa republic here."

    23:04 What connection there was between the two, frankly, I did not get it.

    23:13 They had a leader.

    23:17 Well, he was quite well-built.

    23:22 A big man, all covered in tattoos. Totally.

    23:30 (…) the handgun.

    23:32 It had a thing, sort of like a roulette.

    23:37 Anatoly Shary: (…) revolver?

    23:38 (…) yes and in my presence he loaded it with bullets.

    23:44 And I stood there, like this, I saw everything.

    23:46 The doors (…). I saw how they were dragging the people.

    23:56 I don't know where they were taking them.

    23:56 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    23:59 I don't know.

    24:01 I just saw them dragging the bodies.

    24:26 Whether they were alive or not - they would not let me approach them anyway.

    24:09 (cut)

    24:10…through the back exit, the one that is in the back of the building.

    24:16 The one I told you about, that was blocked with a couple of crates, but you could get through without much difficulty.

    24:24 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    24:30 What?

    24:33 "(…) take these to the basement. We will finish them off there."

    24:38 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    24:39 I don't know.

    24:41 The woman that was walking behind me began to scream and then went silent.

    24:45 I don't know - how long was I there? They probably searched me for

    24:50 about 15 minutes.

    24:54 I did not see her to come out.

    24:56 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    25:01 They were everywhere.

    25:03 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    25:12 Uh - the moment we - firstly, when they took me out of the office, I was already

    25:20 walking on corpses.

    25:21 Then we went on the stairs and there I only saw blood.

    25:26 I only saw them in the hallway. They were dragging the bodies.

    25:31 Where they were dragging them - I don't know.

    25:33 Were they alive or dead?

    25:38 Well - they did not make a sound and they did not move at all.

    25:50 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    25:58 (cut)

    26:00 those who - I don't know, when they cut off the water.

    26:08 When more of the Right Sector (thugs) arrived. When they already surrounded us,

    26:14 they began shooting right away.

    26:20 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    26:25 Well - yes, I think 10 people.

    26:28 Yes.

    26:30 Yes.

    26:33 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    26:37 Yes.

    26:38 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    26:42 The girl who

    26:46 was there with me, I am still in touch with her.

    26:48 She saw all that too.

    26:50 But I don't know if she would be able to corroborate this or not,

    26:55 because she -

    26:57 her husband was there too, but he was not with us in the office.

    27:00 He too was badly burned.

    27:04 But they are hiding now,

    27:06 because on the 3rd -

    27:11 today's the 4th, right -

    27:20 they took all the documents from the hospital. The people from the SBU came

    27:22 and took all the data, all the records of the people who were brought in from the Kulikovo Field.

    27:30 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    27:34 I don't know. I only saw how they were throwing them at us -

    27:37 (cut) That woman, by the way, the photo that you posted online. She is on that photo.

    27:45 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    27:48 She had a short haircut.

    27:53 She had - she had

    28:02 a beige top

    28:03 with something like lace or

    28:05 something similar.

    28:07 I remember it very vaguely. There was lots of smoke there.

    28:10 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    28:12 I would not be able to describe it to you precisely in details.

    28:14 She was already barely alive.

    28:19 She could barely breathe.

    28:20 She was saying something.

    28:24 Honestly, I can't remember what she was saying.

    28:29 I'm telling you, I could not stand being there, because

    28:34 after 5 minutes you would start getting disoriented.

    28:39 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    28:40 Because I did not see any Molotov cocktails inside.

    28:44 I only saw how they hurled them at us.

    28:48 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    28:52 Yes, the people who were trying to get out to safety,

    28:54 not all of them, but some of them were shot.

    28:57 (…) Yes.

    29:04 Anatoly Shary: (…)

    29:07 Yes, okay.

    The above account described some of what happened.

    Other atrocities included rape, strangling a pregnant woman with an electric wire, hacking people to death with axes, beating them to death with bats, and throwing them out of windows.

    Survivors able to get out were attacked outside. Most were murdered in cold blood. Official accounts concealed what happened. Media scoundrels regurgitated official lies.

    Expect similar disturbing incidents to repeat. Perhaps much greater ones. Expect the worst to come. Fascist extremists operate this way.
    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Many victims were taken down to the basement and murdered there, apparently by beating. These bodies do not appear on any stills or film footage I have seen; and the Kiev junta seems intent upon suppressing details of this element of the massacre.

    Odessa Massacre: Eyewitness Account

    Stephen Lendman
    5-10-14

    http://rense.com/general96/odessmass.html
    Another survivor:



    Those who were collecting the bodies said: we were walking on the dead bodies … [How many people got killed there?] If we take the whole day, 116. … They are burying them secretly. They were collecting the bodies and finished off the wounded. [Did they poison them with some gas?] Not only with gas. They used stan granades, guns, traumatic guns, pump-action rifles. They chased the people into the building and finished them there. Two guys were clubbed to death with sticks. Is it normal? Is it a f–king united country? They burned a woman with two children alive. In the first floor this woman and two children were killed. … And the Media called us … I’m sorry but I will talk [to the media]! The Ukrainian [Kiev] Media call us terrorists. But the Right Sector [a Western-oriented neo-Nazi party, prominent in the new Kiev government], the wankers, chased us up to the roof of the builing. They threw Molotov Cocktails at us and cried ‘Death to enemies’. To what enemies [he asked them]? And then they cried [out in support of] ‘United Ukraine’. [He replied] F–k the United Ukraine. F–k this country [the newly installed government in Kiev]. [How all this was going chronologically?] Chronologically? They came … [Were there any children killed?] There were many children, women and old people murdered. They finished off the wounded. With headshots. They jumped on their heads. The police couldn’t do anything, they only cordoned off the building. The police tried to come up, a grenade burst among them, and they jumped on the dead bodies. [Where are the rest of the bodies?] The rest of the bodies are six kilometers from Odessa. We need to go there and take them. [unclear question] My name is Vania. [He turns to go.]
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle38466.htm
    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

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    Taken by Maxim Nikitenko, deceased:

    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Many victims were taken down to the basement and murdered there, apparently by beating. These bodies do not appear on any stills or film footage I have seen; and the Kiev junta seems intent upon suppressing details of this element of the massacre.

    Odessa Massacre: Eyewitness Account

    Stephen Lendman
    5-10-14

    http://rense.com/general96/odessmass.html
    Another survivor:



    Those who were collecting the bodies said: we were walking on the dead bodies … [How many people got killed there?] If we take the whole day, 116. … They are burying them secretly. They were collecting the bodies and finished off the wounded. [Did they poison them with some gas?] Not only with gas. They used stan granades, guns, traumatic guns, pump-action rifles. They chased the people into the building and finished them there. Two guys were clubbed to death with sticks. Is it normal? Is it a f–king united country? They burned a woman with two children alive. In the first floor this woman and two children were killed. … And the Media called us … I’m sorry but I will talk [to the media]! The Ukrainian [Kiev] Media call us terrorists. But the Right Sector [a Western-oriented neo-Nazi party, prominent in the new Kiev government], the wankers, chased us up to the roof of the builing. They threw Molotov Cocktails at us and cried ‘Death to enemies’. To what enemies [he asked them]? And then they cried [out in support of] ‘United Ukraine’. [He replied] F–k the United Ukraine. F–k this country [the newly installed government in Kiev]. [How all this was going chronologically?] Chronologically? They came … [Were there any children killed?] There were many children, women and old people murdered. They finished off the wounded. With headshots. They jumped on their heads. The police couldn’t do anything, they only cordoned off the building. The police tried to come up, a grenade burst among them, and they jumped on the dead bodies. [Where are the rest of the bodies?] The rest of the bodies are six kilometers from Odessa. We need to go there and take them. [unclear question] My name is Vania. [He turns to go.]
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle38466.htm
    Seeming confirmation that Washington's junta is lying about the number of victims.

    Below, a frame from early stages of the attack. At a window at the front of the Trade Union building, what appears to be a family of three - father, mother and son, that latter bearing a football scarf which would seem to be that of the local Odessa side, Chornomorets, the same side as that supported by some of the attackers.

    malchik.jpg

    Next, the video from which the still originated, at 1:12:36:



    I infer from this site that the boy and his parents are missing, presumed murdered:

    http://rusvesna.su/news/1399851576

    Pictured in the window of a burning house Unions stands a boy of 10 or 12 years. Face is seen clearly enough, so there is hope that after the liberation of Odessa from the enemy, the other, honest and loyal people police identify him. Child scared.
    The horror, the horror...
    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

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    Bloodbath in Odessa guided by interim rulers of Ukraine
    Wed, May 14, 2014

    By ANTIFASCIST (Ukraine)

    http://orientalreview.org/2014/05/14...rs-of-ukraine/

    The information provided below was obtained from an insider in one of Ukraine’s law-enforcement agencies, who wished to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. It is clear that there are people even within the interim administration in Kiev who are against of what happened in Odessa on May 2 and throughout the whole country.

    Scheming

    After the loss of Crimea and the popular uprising in Mariupol, Odessa is now Ukraine’s only gateway to the sea, thus making it the most important city in the country after Kiev.

    Ten days before the tragedy a secret meeting was held in Kiev, chaired by the incumbent president Olexander Turchinov, to prepare a special operation in Odessa. Present were minister of internal affairs Arsen Avakov, the head of the Ukrainian Security Service Valentin Nalivaychenko, and the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Andriy Parubiy. Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoiskiy, the Kiev-appointed head of regional administration of the Dnepropetrovsk region, was consulted in regard to the operation.

    During that meeting Arsen Avakov has reportedly came up with the idea of using football hooligans, known as “ultras,” in the operation. Ever since his time as the head of the Kharkov regional administration he has worked closely with the fans leaders, whom he continued to sponsor even from his new home in Italy.

    Kolomoisky temporarily delivered his private “Dnieper-1” Battalion under the command of law-enforcement officials in Odessa and also authorized a cash payment of $5,000 for “each pro-Russian separatist” killed during the special operation.

    A couple of days before the operation in Odessa Andriy Parubiy brought dozens of bullet-proof vests to local ultra-nationalists. This video shows an episode of handing the vests to the local Maidan activists in Odessa. Take note of the person who receives the load. He is Mykola Volkov, a local hard-core criminal who would be repeatedly screened during the assault on Trade Unionist House gun-shooting at the people and reporting about the “incident” by phone to an official in Kiev.

    Preparations

    Ultranationalist militants from the extremist Ukrainian National Assembly (UNA-UNSO), who could be recognized by their red armbands, were also used during the operation. They were assigned a key role in the staging of the provocations: they masqueraded as the defenders of the tent city on Kulikovo Field, and then lured its occupants to the House of Trade Unions to be slaughtered.

    Fifteen roadblocks were set up outside of Odessa, secured by militants under the personal command of Kolomoisky’s “Dnieper-1” Battalion, as well as Right Sector’s thugs from Dnepropetrovsk and the western regions of Ukraine. In addition, two military units from the Self-Defense of Maidan arrived in Odessa, under the command of the acting head of the administration of the president, Sergey Pashinsky – the same man who was caught with a sniper rifle in the trunk of his car on Feb. 18 on Independence Square (Maidan) in Kiev. Pashinsky later claimed that he had not been fully informed about the plans for the operation and had dispatched his men only to “protect the people of Odessa.”Thus, there were a total of about 1,400 fighters from other regions of Ukraine in the vicinity at the time –thus countering the idea that there were “residents of Odessa” who burned down the House of Trade Unions.

    The role of the Odessa police forces in the operation was personally directed by the head of the regional police, Petr Lutsyuk, and his deputy Dmitry Fucheji. Lutsyuk was assigned the task of neutralizing Odessa’s regional governor, Vladimir Nemirovsky, to prevent him from putting together an independent strategy that could disrupt the operation. Fucheji led the militants right to Greek Square where he was allegedly “wounded” (in order to evade responsibility for subsequent events).

    The operation was originally scheduled for May 2 – the day of a soccer match, which would justify the presence of a large number of sports fans (“ultras”) downtown and would also mean there would be a minimal number of Odessa residents on the streets who were not involved in the operation, since the majority of the city’s population would be out of town enjoying their May Day holidays.

    Operation

    Train from Kharkov arrived in Odessa on May 2 at 8.00 am carrying fans of the Metallist soccer club, including some “ultras” who were taking part in the operation. In addition, militants from the “Dnieper-1” Battalion and Right Sector simultaneously entered the city in small groups. Some of the Self-Defense of Maidan militants also arrived from Kiev, most of them by cars. That day the Odessa police were under strict orders not to stop cars with license plates from Kiev, Dnipropetrovsk, and Lvov.

    In the afternoon, some of the fighters headed toward Sobornaya Square, where those taking part in the “March for a United Ukraine” were scheduled to gather. Their task was to organize the crowd and lead them to the barricades on Greek Square. A “special operations” group adorned with St. George ribbons donned their balaclavas and marched down Alexandrovsky Avenue. These were the “pro-Russian activists” seen in numerous photos and videos. The provocateurs wore red armbands on their sleeves in order to distinguish themselves from the real, Odessa-based activists. Likewise, the police who had insider information about the details of the operation sported red armbands as well. Unfortunately, some of the real activists, who were not privy to that information, gave in to the provocateurs’ urgings and rushed off to “stop the fascists”.

    Many eyewitnesses recorded what happened next. With the support of the police, the supposedly “pro-Russian” provocateurs lined up near the “Afina” shopping center at the intersection of Greek St. and Vice Admiral Zhukov line, where provocateurs from among the soccer fans, including those representing Right Sector and UNA-UNSO, attacked them (which was confirmed even by the pro-Maidan observers). Firearms were used by both sides and both sides suffered fatalities.



    The task of distracting the “honest” soccer fans from the game and directing the crowd toward Kulikovo Field had been fully accomplished. The provocateurs that had incited the crowd then retreated to the “Afina” shopping center, where they were later taken away by the police. They had suffered injuries but no fatalities.

    While the confrontations were underway on Greek Square, a group of Right Sector thugs were readying the main part of the operation, code-named “Ha’ola” – from the phrase “Mizbeach Ha’ola”, which in Hebrew means “the altar of burnt offering”. They slipped into the House of Trade Unions through the back entrance and fortified their positions in the basement and the attic. This group contained only proven fighters who were experienced killers.

    While the masses were moving through the city’s center from Greek Square to Kulikovo Field, some of the provocateurs got into cars and sped ahead of most of the crowd, rushing into the tent camp and inciting a panic by shouting “Right Sector is on its way!” and “They’re coming to kill you!” and so on. Led by the provocateurs, many activists entered the House of Trade Unions instead of scattering throughout the city. Some of them went down to the basement from which no one emerged alive – there they were tortured, killed, and butchered with machetes. Others headed upstairs. Gasoline was mixed with napalm to form deadly, acrid carbon monoxide. The recipe for these deadly cocktails was created by chemists from Independence Square, but they were not used there. In Odessa, the mixture was employed for the first time and this was no accident: a massacre with a large number of fatalities was needed in order to terrorize the entire country.

    The “battle” for the House of Trade Unions lasted several hours – during which time some of the militants pretended to mount a resistance by tossing Molotov cocktails from the roof, while others methodically butchered, strangled, and incinerated their victims. In order to ensure that the fire could not be extinguished, water was completely shut off to the building.

    After “Ha’ola” was complete, the Right Sector murderers fled the building through the side and rear exits and left town. The police then entered the structure. The number that became the official death toll – 46 – included only the dead on the upper floors of the building. The majority of the victims, who were in the basement, were not counted. The exact number of dead is unlikely to ever be known, but most sources claim that between 120 and 130 were killed.

    The truth cannot be concealed

    The junta has privatized the police and the security service, but forgot about the prosecutor’s office. And now the acting attorney general, Oleh Makhnitsky has stated:

    “This action [in Odessa] was not prepared at some internal level, it was a well-planned and coordinated action in which some authorities’ representatives have taken part.”

    It is unlikely that he will be permitted to name those who are truly responsible for the tragedy. But the junta in Kiev will not be able to completely conceal the truth about what happened in Odessa. This tragedy should be thoroughly investigated and those culpable should be brought to the international trial for committed crimes against humanity. Nuremberg-2 is waiting for Turchinov & Co.
    "There are three sorts of conspiracy: by the people who complain, by the people who write, by the people who take action. There is nothing to fear from the first group, the two others are more dangerous; but the police have to be part of all three,"

    Joseph Fouche

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    The Odessa Massacre - What REALLY Happened

    12.May.2014 | SCG


    Contrary to what the mainstream media has tried to convince you, it's not at all a mystery how the fire started in Odessa, Ukraine and it's not at all a mystery who started it. We owe it to the victims to expose what really happened.


    On May 2nd 2014 over 40 people were murdered in Odessa Ukraine. Some eyewitnesses claim the real number is over a hundred.




    Some of them were burned alive. Others were strangled or beaten to death. A pregnant woman was among those killed.
    I'm not going to show the images of the dead bodies directly in this video because doing so would either get the video blocked or age-restricted. In the description you will find a link to a page where you can view those images if you are so inclined. I warn you though that they are truly horrific, and should not be viewed in front of children.
    Now the mainstream media and western politicians have glossed over what happened that day. They've attempted to blur the chain of events and have completely avoided condemning those responsible. Instead they've blamed the anti-Kiev protesters and Russia for the violence.
    Ah but what about the video that showed the anti-Kiev protesters firing automatic weapons during the clash?
    You're probably thinking about this video.
    This is the video that corporate media outlets broadcasted to the public which shows what appears to be anti-Kiev protesters firing on Maidan protesters on May 2nd.
    Open and shut case right? These guys brought this on themselves.
    If you just saw this clip that would be the obvious conclusion, however this isn't the only clip that we have. We have quite a bit of footage that the mainstream media isn't showing you, and that footage tells a very, very different story.
    Here's that same scene with the shooter video taped from another angle.



    Now pay close attention to the people he's with. The red arm bands these guys are wearing are supposed to symbolize the anti-Kiev contingent. In particular pay attention to this man in the brown jacket. Also take note of the padding that the man in the brown jacket is holding in his right hand. This guy with the brown jacket is important, and you'll see why when we show you the next clip.
    This next clip I'm going to show you first once at normal speed, then we're going to slow it down and freeze frames to point out important details.


    Now if we freeze this frame, the man in the back of the ambulance that invites the police officer to get in looks a lot like the shooter, but this is a very brief scene and the image isn't clear enough to hang a case on it. However what we see next is very clear.
    Remember the man with the brown suit and the odd padding that was with the contingent that was firing on the other protesters? Here he is again, helping a police officer get into that ambulance carrying that masked man. Notice the men with red arm bands with him.
    It turns out that we have lots of images and footage tying the police to this provocation. The officer being escorted into the ambulance was photographed and video taped from multiple angles. Witnesses have identified him as Colonel Fucheji.
    Here we see him and other police consulting with masked men who are presenting themselves as anti-Kiev protesters.




    Here we see an unidentified officer giving instructions to a group of these masked men.

    Why would the Ukrainian provisional government work with thugs presenting themselves as the opposition. Why would they stand by and allow those thugs to escalate the situation by firing into the crowd, then flee the scene with them? Doesn't that strike you as a little bit odd?
    This is a very old tactic. The technical term, which has been in use since the 1870d, is agent provocateur. That's French for provoking agent. Authorities use agent provocateurs when they want to manufacture a justification for a crackdown against their opponents.
    And boy did they capitalize on that justification in Odessa.
    The Maidan protesters, which eyewitnesses say outnumbered the anti-Kiev protesters 10 to 1, headed straight for the opposition's camp ground. First they burned down their tents. The anti-Kiev protesters tried to put up a defense at the door, but the Maidan crowd began throwing Molotov cocktails. Soon the building was engulfed in flames.
    Here's what the scene looked like on the ground.



    You can hear the crowd cheering as they set the building ablaze. The Maidan can be seen beating those who try to escape.
    Here you can see a Maidan activist shooting at those trying to escape from the windows.
    There was a fire station less than a kilometer away, but they didn't intervene for hours. Why? Here's why:


    The Maidan crowd blockaded the fire truck and wouldn't let the firefighters operate.
    It's not unclear how the fire started as the mainstream media has been trying to convince you. Nor is it unclear who started the fire. Here we see a group of Maidan girls doing their part by filling up Molotov cocktails behind the scenes while the boys are busy using them to burn people alive.


    This wasn't a tragic accident, this was murder. One of the official Youtube channels for the Maidan (EuromaidanPR,) uploaded this video right after the blaze where they do a walk through of the building examining the corpses. They entitled it "Russian Terrorists Burnt Alive In Trade Union Building Fire In Odessa Ukraine, May 2 2014". They were proud of what they did, and they weren't the only ones. WARNING: The video below is extremely disturbing. Do not click if you are not emotionally prepared to see it.

    The following is a screenshot I took from a public post on Facebook made by the Ukrainian Nationalist Iryna Farion who openly commended the murderers.

    Translation: Bravo, Odessa. Pearl of the Ukrainian spirit. Birthplace of the great nationalists Ivan and Yuri Jul. Let the Devils burn in hell. The best of the rebels is the football fans. Bravo.
    All over the internet self proclaimed fascists were hailing this as victory.




    A victory over who? There were no Russian citizens among the dead. They were all Ukrainians.
    As horrific as the video is, it's a bit deceptive, because it doesn't show the pregnant woman who was killed upstairs. Her body wasn't burned at all. She appeared to have been strangled to death.
    Click here if you want to see the picture I'm referring to here. You can also click here to view other images taken from the scene. These are extremely graphic and I do not even want to host them on my server.
    What's even more disturbing is that there was video taken from the ground which captured the audio of her screaming in her final moments.
    Here the screams can be heard clearly:



    After the screaming stopped Maidan activists presented themselves at the window gleefully waving a Ukrainian flag.



    During all of this the police did nothing. There was no investigation. In fact the provisional government in Kiev has blamed the anti-Kiev protesters for the fire and arrested the survivors. Apparently these people burned themselves to death and strangled their own people. Right.
    Does this all seem out of place with the narrative you've been handed for months by the media and the politicians?
    You believed them when they told you that the accusations that the Maidan was run by Neo-Nazis were just baseless conspiracy theories. Even though the BBC was reporting on their rise back in 2012. In that first report they specifically placed attention on a group called Svoboda led by a man named Oleh Tyahnybok. In that article they referred to Svoboda as a proto fascist organization and they covered Tyahnybok's long history of targeting Jews and Ethnic Russians. They pointed out that in 2004 he was kicked out of Viktor Yushenko's government for making a speech calling for Ukrainians to fight against a "Muscovite-Jewish mafia", and in 2005 he signed his name to an open letter to the leadership of Ukraine entitled "Stop the Criminal Activities of Organised Jewry".
    Here's that same Oleh Tyahnybok rubbing shoulders with John McCain:

    And here with U.S. State Department Diplomat Victoria Nuland:


    (That's the same Victoria Nuland that was caught in the leaked phone call talking about installing Arseniy Yatsenuk to run the provisional government):
    And Tyahnybok is just one of several known Neo-Nazis currently holding high office in Kiev. For example Dmitry Yarosh, a prominent Right Sektor leader who was installed as Ukraine's deputy Secretary of National Security.
    Don't take my word for it. Go read what the BBC said about these people back in 2012. Go look at this article from Reuters which acknowledges that these guys are well positioned in the current government. Then go look at the photos from the crime scene in Odessa. If you do, you'll understand that what we're dealing with here isn't just a few politicians with offensive opinions. These guys are the real deal. These are Neo Nazi fascists, who are willing to murder anyone who gets in their way. The U.S. and the E.U. are backing them, and the corporate media is covering up their crimes.
    But why would these guys resort to the kind of brutality we saw in Odessa? It wasn't very smart. The images and the video of the crime scene have gone viral. That's a public relations disaster that will have lasting consequences.
    Why would they do something like this, because they're running out of options. There's a rebellion spreading all across Ukraine and in spite of what the corporate media has been trying to sell you these aren't pro-Russian protesters. The people don't trust the coup appointed government and they don't want to live under its rule. What they're asking for is a federal system comprised of states with a certain degree of autonomy, kind of like what the United States used to be.



    Kiev has ordered the military to put down the rebellion 3 times already, but only a fraction of the Ukrainian military has been willing to fire on their own people. Not only have the troops refused to fight, but many have switched sides and are now fighting for the resistance. Others are on the fence contemplating turning their guns on Kiev, and are saying so publicly.



    Translation: "Minister yatsenyuk and company a big thank you for my payment of 1300 hryvnia for two months. Believe me i'm ashamed do you hear me? Think about it because we can turn our tank column on you!"
    That's a serious problem for the provisional government, especially since the IMF made it very clear that the 17 billion dollar loan package they are offering will be cancelled if Kiev fails to regain control of the east.

    It's worth noting that Kiev began the third military offensive right after the IMF made that threat, and right after the massacre in Odessa, the IMF made the first 3.2 billion dollar payment towards that 17 billion. I guess they earned it.
    The grand irony here, is that these so called nationalists are apparently too stupid to realize that their leadership just sold them out. You say you want a Ukraine for Ukrainians, but Kiev just brought in the IMF vultures. The IMF! This is the worlds most notorious predatory lender. The western globalists own you guys now.



    Debt is a far more insidious method of subjugation than military occupation. At least with an army you can recognize the enemy, and you can fight them, but when that enemy hides behind banks, they destroy a nation from the inside out. They use your own strength against you. Rather than fighting back, you'll end up groveling at their feet for table scraps.

    The West doesn't care about Ukraine. They're certainly not concerned for the welfare of their people. Ukraine is just a pawn. It's just a pivot point on the board. The real target is Russia. At this point they aren't even hiding it.


    If you pay attention you'll notice that the politicians and the media are doing everything in their power to turn the public against Russia. They are working hard to make you hate them and fear them. They are trying to create a boogie man in your mind. Kind of like how they did in the cold war.

    Little details like the facts aren't an obstacle. They're just making stuff up at this point. Claiming to have evidence of Russian troops in eastern Ukraine, but never correcting themselves after the evidence was debunked. Claiming that the rebels in the East were ordering Jews to register and pay a special tax, never correcting themselves after a Jewish organization with connections in the region came forward to debunk the claim. And of course they blamed the violence in Odessa on the Russians too. They're not going to correct themselves.
    You've heard the saying "History is written by the winners". That's not poetic, that's a literal truth. Don't let these people win.
    http://scgnews.com/the-odessa-massac...eally-happened
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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