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    The Pentacon cop witnesses are utterly believable, although the white officer has a high opinion of himself as a "plane expert", a "bomb expert", and I guess a "dog expert". Interesting that he puts the cab that got hit with a light pole much farther north than photographed. I have always wondered how a light pole could come thru the cabbies' front window if the plane was flying from behind him to in front of him.

    I also note that the spires on the United States Air Force Memorial extend from 210 to 270 feet tall, well higher than the altitude witnesses report the plane was flying at as it went by. I wonder how far the memorial is from the Citgo?

    It is further of interest that the Navy Annex building, used as a reference point by these eyewitnesses, has been torn down.
    Last edited by Drew Phipps; 07-10-2014 at 09:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Phipps View Post
    The last part of her assertion I find strange is that she suggests that the conspirators were inspired by Carl Schmitt, Nazi law professor. Does she seriously think that his Ubermensch view of the world would gain any traction among the Jewish people, Schmitt's intended victims? The alliance of Nazi philosophy and Zionism would indeed be a startling and historical event, which would have been noticed and commented upon by others before 2012.
    While I'm not among those who blame the Israelis for 9/11, I was stunned after reading Max Blumenthal's book Goliath by how much fascist ideology has become popular among the Israeli Right, and among the masses of recent immigrants from Russia.

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    The last video is the most powerful, but it is the one with the highest production values as well. So you can expect it to be more powerful. It also covers the towers as well as the Pentagon, to which the other videos restrict their discussion. The only new bit of information to me was the whistleblower from the company hired to conduct structural failure tests for NIST, Underwriters Labs, said that the UL test results did not match the NIST conclusions, at which point he lost his job.
    "All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

    James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

    Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

    Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."

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    Tracy: I'm gonna go find this book.

    Looks like much of the book concerns events that happened after 2001. Still will be worth a look. Thanks!
    Last edited by Drew Phipps; 07-11-2014 at 02:54 AM.
    "All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

    James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

    Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

    Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."

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    While the comments on the films are appreciated, would this thread not best be restricted to the title - posting lists of what people think are better films, videos, books and articles on the events of 911? Feel free to start another thread discussing any of them - or all of them - and reposting the videos there and then discussing them, etc. Otherwise the growing list will get lost in the comments. IMO
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    Thanks for these video links. For some oh-so-mysterious reason my connection keeps resetting when I try to dl them. It'll work eventually. I knew 911 was BS within seconds of the 1st plane for reasons that would probably be next to impossible to explain. I know some people who were on the pentagon grounds within minutes. Maybe I'll get around to something resembling an introduction some day.

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    The last part of her assertion I find strange is that she suggests that the conspirators were inspired by Carl Schmitt, Nazi law professor. Does she seriously think that his Ubermensch view of the world would gain any traction among the Jewish people, Schmitt's intended victims? The alliance of Nazi philosophy and Zionism would indeed be a startling and historical event, which would have been noticed and commented upon by others before 2012.
    The relationship of Zionism to fascism is complex and even ambivalent. Look at the wiki article on Revisionist Zionism. In short, revisionist Zionists's attitudes toward Mussolini and Hitler and fascism in general would be summed up with, 'There's lots to like minus the anti-antisemitism.' There was even an initiative to approach Hitler with the offer to side with Germany in exchange for Jewish peoples.

    Carl Schmidt was important to Leo Strauss, the godfather of neo-conservatism.

    This is all a large and complex area of study requiring lots of nuance.
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    Looks like to me that the Zionist attraction to Fascism was more of an anti-socialist posture than anything else. The Jewish fear of Russians must have been well-ingrained after centuries of the Romanov's and their pogroms. It's funny that the official policy of socialists under Lenin and early Stalin was not to tolerate anti-Semitism, regardless of their personal beliefs. But it is perhaps telling that Trotsky (Stalin's defeated rival) was allegedly Jewish.

    It could be that the Marxist idea that religion was all a sham was far more threatening ideologically to the Jewish people, than any perceived political danger from Fascists. At least until the concentration camps were built.
    "All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

    James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

    Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

    Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Phipps View Post
    Looks like to me that the Zionist attraction to Fascism was more of an anti-socialist posture than anything else. The Jewish fear of Russians must have been well-ingrained after centuries of the Romanov's and their pogroms. It's funny that the official policy of socialists under Lenin and early Stalin was not to tolerate anti-Semitism, regardless of their personal beliefs. But it is perhaps telling that Trotsky (Stalin's defeated rival) was allegedly Jewish.

    It could be that the Marxist idea that religion was all a sham was far more threatening ideologically to the Jewish people, than any perceived political danger from Fascists. At least until the concentration camps were built.
    Indeed, anti-socialism was a theme, but the revisionist Zionists admired other aspects of fascism, as stated in my sources. Keep digging.
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    The Israelis have been practicing a kind of National Socialism/State-supported Capitalism since the days of the early Zionists settlers in Palestine. In Max Blumenthal's book, he talks about how the elites in Israel are the white Europeans (descended from the Founding generation), and beneath them are the Russian Jews, Arab Jews, black Jews, etc, who are relegated to doing the dirty and dangerous jobs.

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