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    From newly published Nixon tapes (Dec. 14, 1972):
    NIXON: And also, never forget, the press is the enemy.
    KISSINGER: On that, there's no question --
    NIXON: The press is the enemy. The press is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The professors are the enemy. Professors are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard a hundred times and never forget it.
    KISSINGER: I, on the professors --
    NIXON: Always --
    KISSINGER: -- I need no instruction at all.
    NIXON: Always --
    KISSINGER: And on the press, I'm in complete agreement with you.
    NIXON: It's the enemy. . . . The press is the enemy. That's all.





    • Joseph McBride I don't agree on the professors, naturally enough, but think Nixon's right about the news media being the enemy (now), though not for the reasons he thinks. It's what Jonathan Rosenbaum calls "the media-industrial complex," and the news media, by and large, are in total synch with the government and the military-industrial complex. They've mostly forgotten that their real job is, as Finley Peter Dunne put it, to "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable."














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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph McBride View Post


    NIXON: The press is the enemy. The press is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The professors are the enemy. Professors are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard a hundred times and never forget it.
    KISSINGER: I, on the professors --
    NIXON: Always --




    I think it looks like Kissinger agrees with you. He's hesitating. Him being a professor and all. I wonder if that was meant as a swipe at Kissinger from Nixon?

    Agree with you (and Rosenbaum) too Joseph on the media's role. One area where Chomsky is spot on too.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph McBride View Post


    NIXON: The press is the enemy. The press is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The professors are the enemy. Professors are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard a hundred times and never forget it.
    KISSINGER: I, on the professors --
    NIXON: Always --


    • Joseph McBride I don't agree on the professors, naturally enough....



    I think it looks like Kissinger agrees with you. He's hesitating. Him being a professor and all. I wonder if that was meant as a swipe at Kissinger from Nixon?

    Agree with you (and Rosenbaum) too Joseph on the media's role. One area where Chomsky is spot on too.
    I agree with him on professors too. Prof. McBride and a few others - very few - excepted of course.
    Last edited by Magda Hassan; 08-01-2014 at 03:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph McBride View Post


    NIXON: The press is the enemy. The press is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The professors are the enemy. Professors are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard a hundred times and never forget it.
    KISSINGER: I, on the professors --
    NIXON: Always --




    I think it looks like Kissinger agrees with you. He's hesitating. Him being a professor and all. I wonder if that was meant as a swipe at Kissinger from Nixon?

    Agree with you (and Rosenbaum) too Joseph on the media's role. One area where Chomsky is spot on too.

    I wonder if that was meant as a swipe at Kissinger from Nixon?
    If this is a true and accurate quote, one could only imply that it was a swipe when Nixon at one time or another believed it was Kissinger, after all, who may have been the one leaking White House information to the press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Ellis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph McBride View Post


    NIXON: The press is the enemy. The press is the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The professors are the enemy. Professors are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard a hundred times and never forget it.
    KISSINGER: I, on the professors --
    NIXON: Always --


    • Joseph McBride I don't agree on the professors, naturally enough....



    I think it looks like Kissinger agrees with you. He's hesitating. Him being a professor and all. I wonder if that was meant as a swipe at Kissinger from Nixon?

    Agree with you (and Rosenbaum) too Joseph on the media's role. One area where Chomsky is spot on too.
    I agree with him on professors too. Prof. McBride and a few others - very few - excepted of course.
    Professor Chomsky being another professor to handle with care....Good on media role. Not so good on conspiracy....
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Kissinger made the famous comment, "The reason academic disputes are so acrimonious is that there's so little at stake."

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    Oliver Stone and Anthony Hopkins did a good job of capturing Nixon's sad sense of persecution in the film Nixon.

    I really think that JFK and Nixon were the last two Presidents who tried to buck the Establishment and create their own policies - right or wrong - and both were destroyed for it.

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    I think Oliver Stone's NIXON is superb. It was amazing how most reviewers
    and others missed that it's also about the JFK assassination. The director's
    cut on DVD contains the added scene of Nixon confronting Helms (Sam
    Waterston), which is critical to the film and that theme. Stone blends
    some elements of Angleton (e.g., the orchids) into the Helms character.
    Last edited by Joseph McBride; 08-03-2014 at 03:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph McBride View Post
    I think Oliver Stone's NIXON is superb. It was amazing how most reviewers
    and others missed that it's also about the JFK assassination. The director's
    cut on DVD with the added scene of Nixon confronting Helms (Sam
    Waterston) is critical to the film and that theme.
    That scene is brilliant, and it's good to have it back on the DVD. It's a little odd, because elsewhere in the film is stock footage of the real Richard Helms on TV.

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