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    The archive is back on-line following a major re-vamp with many new and updated articles
    Peter Presland

    ".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
    Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'
    "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
    Claud Cockburn


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Presland View Post
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    The archive is back on-line following a major re-vamp with many new and updated articles
    Peter, I re-read your Three Establishment Model again. I am coming to conclude that there is a New Synthesis amongst the three united against Putin and the Islamic State. References to neo-cons vs. the adults seem to be vanishing.
    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Presland View Post
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    Excellent! Thank you Peter!
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    The JFK page says updated August 15th, but the text simply reads 'Article updated...', with nothing else, unless there's a browser issue at my end.

    https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/Kennedy/John_F_Kennedy.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Presland View Post
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    Thanks Peter. I see he has posted a list of 400 suspicious political deaths around the world. I'm intrigued to see that death by 'auto-erotic asphyxiation' appears to be a British cottage industry. There are four listed from the UK, and not one elsewhere in the world. It's good to see that there are still a few things in which Britain leads the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Pryce View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Presland View Post
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    Thanks Peter. I see he has posted a list of 400 suspicious political deaths around the world. I'm intrigued to see that death by 'auto-erotic asphyxiation' appears to be a British cottage industry. There are four listed from the UK, and not one elsewhere in the world. It's good to see that there are still a few things in which Britain leads the world!
    I think it has to do with "British values" - or something close.
    Peter Presland

    ".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
    Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'
    "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
    Claud Cockburn


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Thorne View Post
    The JFK page says updated August 15th, but the text simply reads 'Article updated...', with nothing else, unless there's a browser issue at my end.

    https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/Kennedy/John_F_Kennedy.html
    Not your browser. Joel tells me he's working on it. No doubt he'll have a fix/update shortly
    Peter Presland

    ".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
    Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'
    "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
    Claud Cockburn


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    I really value all of the work he's done on that site, but I'm not impressed by his article trying to prove that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.

    https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/911/more...nsions_est.htm

    It was written in 2005 and updated in 2007, so it is really dated. Barbara Honegger's recent video pretty effectively demolishes the idea that a commercial airliner piloted by a human hit the Pentagon. She points out that the wings would have been sliced when hitting the steel light poles, and the fuel inside the wings would have exploded before the plane even reached the target. And why would Hani Hanjour perform this ridiculously difficult maneuver to hit the west side of the Pentagon, instead of the offices of the Joint Chiefs and Rumsfeld on the other side? Or simply dive down into the roof?

    He doesn't seem to consider the possibility that a modfied, remotely-piloted military plane that resembled an airliner may have been used. In fact, he seems to ridicule the whole idea of remote control. He quotes Daniel Hopsicker: ""Instead, what we got was the recent 9/11 Conference in San Francisco, where you could hear all about the Bush’s links to the Nazis... find out that the hijacked planes were operated—Look Ma! No hands!—by Remote Control."

    No, what should be ridiculed is the idea that the facilitators of 9/11 would rely on a bunch of Arab patsies who could barely fly a plane to successfully carry out the attacks. If you've really studied the 19 Arab suspects, I wouldn't rely on any of them to operate a lemonade stand.

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    Tracy, I totally agree. I’ve read Joel’s articles on this issue a number of times in the past and, because I respect his work so highly, I have really tried to see it his way. But I just can’t. If you believe 9/11 was an inside job, and that some of the perps were sitting in the Pentagon that morning, simple common sense insists that they must have had total control of whatever was heading their way. The idea that they would sit there and trust their lives to a man in a hijacked plane on a suicide errand, trust him to keep his word and stick to the plan, is completely unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Pryce View Post
    Tracy, I totally agree. I’ve read Joel’s articles on this issue a number of times in the past and, because I respect his work so highly, I have really tried to see it his way. But I just can’t. If you believe 9/11 was an inside job, and that some of the perps were sitting in the Pentagon that morning, simple common sense insists that they must have had total control of whatever was heading their way. The idea that they would sit there and trust their lives to a man in a hijacked plane on a suicide errand, trust him to keep his word and stick to the plan, is completely unbelievable.
    It's like those people who can't get over the idea of Oswald-as-shooter ("maybe the mafia hired him to kill JFK"). No one would hire Oswald to shoot anyone because he was a mediocre shot at best. The hijackers couldn't fly the planes. You use them as decoys and fall guys, and for nothing else.

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