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    Default Well, things get very confusing and contentious......I'm becoming skeptical.

    The Hoax that is the T. Patrick Murray “Shooting Kubrick” Mockumentary

    Posted on December 12, 2015 by willyloman
    by Scott Creighton
    This is Stanley Kubrick.

    The actor in the videos are certainly not Stanley Kubrick.
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    Someone left me a link to this newly released gimmick mockumentary by failed director T. Patrick Murray which purports to be an interview with Stanley Kubrick right before he died where the great director supposedly explains, yes, he did indeed fake the moon landings for the first three Apollo missions.
    The “film” is a series of Youtube videos on a free, hacked together Wix website,Shooting Kubrick. On that website, this appears:

    Right below that, this appears:

    That means the unknown filmmaker secured the interview with the reclusive Kubrick 2 months after he died.
    That might explain why he used an actor playing the role of Stanley Kubrick.
    T. Patrick Murray has a Youtube channel with all of 453 subscribers. He posted an idea,a pitch, for a film back in 2012 about the mortgage crisis during which he claims he beat the biggest bank in the world and will produce a documentary showing people how to do it. I don’t know if he ever made the opportunistic film. The “pitch” consists of him in some park walking around and around in circles saying he used to pay $5,000 a month for his “million dollar home” but now he pays nothing.
    Another video on his Youtube page is called “Conspiracy Comedy”.
    This fake interview, for so many reasons, seems more like a desperate cry for help from T. Patrick Murray than anything else. I’m sure he’s just trying to make fun of conspiracy theorists again.
    “Conspiracy Comedy” is a 28 minute long effort by Mr. Murray indulging himself in the fantasy that he is an actor and he seems to be playing the role of the drugged-out, whacked out, tin-foil hat wearing “conspiracy theorist” from Above Top Secret and Godlike Productions, both of which he mentions. That video is below.
    The Kubrick Youtube videos are another effort of his to entertain the fantasy that he is an actor because his interaction with the guy playing Kubrick is probably more time consuming during the video than Kubric’s story. Stanley would be a supporting actor in this as Murray is constantly interrupting him and interjecting his own commentary on what “Stanley” is saying. He talks over him, refers to 2001 as “the space movie” and generally tells one of the greatest directors of all time to shut up and talk about what HE wants him to talk about.
    That is, when he’s not going on and on about why Stanley chose him to film this “historic” interview.
    They don’t even get the conspiracy theory itself right.

    NASA was supposed to have contacted Kubrick in ’68 when he was in post production for 2001. He had hired a couple NASA guys to help with the film, Frederick Ordway andHarry Lange, and supposedly they reported back on the groundbreaking work Kubrick was doing.
    According to this Kubrick mockumentary, Kubrick was approached by NASA to fake the moon landings back in 1964 right after he finished Dr. Strangelove.
    There are a couple of things over the history of Kubrick’s career that seem to suggest he was hinting at having filmed the fake moon landings. One of which was pretty obvious:

    Plus, in the Steven King book “The Shining”, the room no one is ever supposed to go into is room 217 but Stanley changed that to room 237. Back then, 237,000 miles was thought to be the average distance from the earth to the moon (now known to be more like 238,000 miles). That was supposed to represent the dark secret he couldn’t tell anyone, not even his wife (Jack is also supposed to represent Kubrick as the dark secret eventually drives him crazy)
    In the unedited version of the fake Kubrick interview (below) Murray tells “Kubrick” how to tell the story of being asked by Nixon (?) to make the moon landing film. He says “Gus just died and we need to do something… just give it details, OK?” and the guy playing Kubrick nods and says “OK” and begins the scene.
    Murray goes on and on giving the actor playing Kubrick a reading, acting out the dialog of the Nixon meeting, even doing Nixon’s voice. But he’s telling the actor the story, not listening to Kubrick.
    At the 11:15 mark in the video below, during that reading he’s giving the actor, it sounds like he calls him “Mr. Shoff”
    He says “Mr. Shoff (?) … the first person I saw was Pat and she was high… or was it Betty Ford?”
    At the 14:10 mark in the video, Murray and “Mr. Shoff” are struggling back and forth. Murray won’t let his actor find his own rhythm and keeps berating him to the point where they start yelling at each other. Murray forcefully says “Tom, I’m just giving you direction”
    So we can assume the actor’s name is Tom Shoff?
    Either way you look at it, if you only see one of the many short videos of the Kubrick character talking about the faked moon landings like the one I posted above, you might by persuaded to believe the bullshit of this interview.
    However, if you watch the longer version below, you see what it is: a mockumentary.
    Another dead giveaway is the fact that high definition video cameras like the one he shot the footage on, did not exist in 1999. May or March.
    The full video is below along with Murray’s “Conspiracy Comedy”.
    This is just an example of a failed director trying his best to concoct something that makes him seem relevant to someone while trying to get himself a job somewhere.
    But his editing is for shit, his directing skills are sorely lacking and his acting is horrible. Aside from that, he didn’t do his research.
    I guess there is a reason that Stanley Kubrick was Stanley Kubrick and T. Patrick Murray is T. Patrick Murray.
    You can’t fake talent, can you Pat?

    Conspiracy Comedy by T. Patrick Murray

    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Several years ago I found an extensive website that cleared up most of the anomalies and questions I had about the moon landing "hoax," but I don't remember what it was called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy Riddle View Post
    Several years ago I found an extensive website that cleared up most of the anomalies and questions I had about the moon landing "hoax," but I don't remember what it was called.
    It would be interesting if you could find it because I know it is not on NASA's website nor the main sceptic one I checked once which was full of arrogant pretentious wankers.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    I knew there was something wrong when the interviewer said "Is that why you look so haggard?" I doubt the real Kubrick would have let him get away with that and been so casual about it.

    The haggard remark is another example of Drew's 'leading the witness' because the interviewer is trying to put the suggestion to the viewer that 'Kubrick' is tired from holding back the secret for so long.

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    Another strange twist. Just days before this was released, NASA claimed to have proof to rebut all doubts of moon landings....

    Final proof man walked on Moon? NASA finds Apollo crash site on lunar surface

    NASA has released a photograph confirming the exact location of the crash site of part of the Apollo 16 spacecraft that landed on the Moon.
    The US space agency has released the exact coordinates of the site which is on an area called Mare Insularum, about 160 miles southwest of the Copernicus Crater.
    It has been hunting for the ihe Apollo 16 S-IVB impact site - following decades of uncertainty over its final resting place since the 1972 mission.
    The discovery is a major blow for conspiracy theorists who have long claimed no one has ever landed on the moon and all the six manned lunar missions and pictures and video from them from 1969 to 1972 were faked by NASA to ensure the US won the space race against Russia.
    The conspiracy has become so widespread, even Russia called for an investigation into the evidence for the landings earlier this year.
    "In the case of Apollo 16, radio contact with the booster was lost before the impact, so the location was only poorly known."
    Positive identification of the Apollo 16 S-IVB site took more time than the other four impact craters because the location ended up differing by about about 19 miles from the Apollo-era tracking estimate.
    The other four S-IVB craters were all within about four miles of their estimated locations.



    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

  6. Default Stanley Kubrick's daughter blasts moon landing conspiracy theories as a 'grotesque lie'

    Stanley Kubrick's daughter blasts moon landing conspiracy theories as a 'grotesque lie'


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete....html?ITO=1490

    One of the most well-known conspiracy theories is that the moon landing by astronauts on board Apollo 11 in 1969 did not really happen. Some people would have you believe the whole thing was faked by filmmaker Stanley Kubrick, responsible for directing '2001: A Space Oddesey." But his own daughter has publicly stated how ridiculous she believes the conspiracy is, downright denying it and saying it is a 'grotesque lie'.














    "All that is necessary for tyranny to succeed is for good men to do nothing." (unknown)

    James Tracy: "There is sometimes an undue amount of paranoia among some conspiracy researchers that can contribute to flawed observations and analysis."

    Gary Cornwell (Dept. Chief Counsel HSCA): "A fact merely marks the point at which we have agreed to let investigation cease."

    Alan Ford: "Just because you believe it, that doesn't make it so."

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    Vivian Kubrick is a smart lady - she had some very thoughtful things to say when Alex Jones filmed her at some Dallas protests in 2013 - but I'm sure the moon landing fakery theories wouldn't be as prevalent if the DARK SIDE OF THE MOON mockumentary hadn't come out, and if Vivian's mother Christiane (along with Kubrick's regular producer Jan Harlan) hadn't consented to the production of that show and appeared in it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_S...he_Moon_(film)

    I notice that the documentary appeared in 2002 and featured deep state luminaries such as Rumsfeld, Alexander Haig and Kissinger. Quite a time for that bunch to be putting out a documentary asserting that conspiracies were all a bunch of ludicrous faker. You'd almost wonder if conspiracies were in the air that year and needed to be 'debunked'. [sarcasm]

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    This video is clearly a hoax.

    Its the kind of thing that gives us all a bad name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim DiEugenio View Post
    This video is clearly a hoax.

    Its the kind of thing that gives us all a bad name.
    While I think it clear that THIS film is a hoax, I would not let that be used as some generalization to any other idea that goes against the 'official' version of historical events. Each one has to be evaluated on its own merit. As far as I can tell, in modern times, it was the CIA itself that pushed the idea that someone that believed in any one conspiracy 'theory', believed in all of them and therefore could be dismissed as some kind of mentally unhealthy person. They did this specifically in a paper on how their media and other assets could counter the critics of the official version of the JFK assassination, which the CIA had to know at the highest levels WAS a conspiracy and the official version a big lie...... When Rumsfeld and Kissinger and that ilk point the 'conspiracy finger' at others you know that some conspiracy theories are not just theories, but suppressed truth.....
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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