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  1. Default Hillary, stop the violence!

    Is it just me or have you also noticed that Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and President Obama have been silent about the protests?
    The very people who have the power to stop these protests and riots with just a few well-spoken words have been completely silent on the issue.
    Hillary Clinton

    During her concession speech, Clinton said, “We must accept this result, and then look to the future. … Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.”
    After that, she has been mum on the entire thing.
    Hillary Clinton could have asked her followers to stop this nonsense, and they probably would have listened out of respect for her. (Misplaced respect but that’s a whole different article.) Instead, her silence makes me think that she is hidden away, relishing the chaos. That she has done nothing to attempt to calm the situation underlines the fact that she was not fit to govern. A leader would look out for the best interests of a country they love, rather than watching from afar to apply balm to her wounded ego.
    Instead, her Twitter is full of Bible quotes (huh?) and mentions nary a word about the protests. It has not been updated since the day after her failed bid.
    Bernie Sanders

    Bernie Sanders, the one from whom the Democratic primary was fraudulently stolen, the one who backed up Hillary Clinton anyway, has also been uncharacteristically silent, especially for an aging peace-and-love hippie kind of guy.
    He hasn’t once asked the protesters to be peaceful or to give Trump a chance, but he has fueled the fire with his cries for them to remain vigilant. He’s already opposing Trump before the guy even gets inaugurated.
    Even in his essay for the NY Times yesterday, entitled “Where Do Democrats Go From Here?” he did not gently suggest to his supporters that they turn toward peace. He had the opportunity, the platform, and the love from his followers, and his choice to remain silent tells me that he is just as self-serving as the other politicians, despite his humble, grandfatherly demeanor.
    President Obama

    Then there’s the President, who met cordially with Trump. His Twitter account is likewise mute on the subject of vandalism, arson, and violence in reaction to the election.
    Note to President Obama: I didn’t like it when you were elected either, but I burned neither flags nor effigies. I peacefully dissented throughout your administration but never damaged one single item of property. You screwed the middle class with your horrible health care catastrophe, and yet no one rioted in the streets when you were re-elected to screw us for another four years.
    Obama’s only statement of semi-support was on Wednesday, when he said, ““The peaceful transfer of power is one of the hallmarks of our democracy. We’re actually all on the same team.”
    His statement about the riots was via his press secretary.
    White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, asked Thursday about the protests, said the president believes the right to free speech should be protected.
    He added, “It is a right that should be exercised without violence. And there are people who are disappointed in the outcome. And the president’s message in the Rose Garden was it’s not surprising that people are disappointed in the outcome, but it’s important for us to remember, a day or two after the election, that we’re Democrats and Republicans, but we’re Americans and patriots first.”
    This won’t end well.

    Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s campaign manager, sees it the same way. She has called on Obama and Clinton to address the violence, but thus far, her request seems to have fallen on willfully deaf ears.
    Not cool. @POTUS or Hillary should address. ‘People Have to Die’: Anti-Trump Protester Calls For Violence on CNN https://t.co/NfEqhkrTvu
    — Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) November 10, 2016
    Not accepting the result and keeping up the protests will lead to nowhere except more trouble as the contagion of anger spreads. It is only a matter of time before it really gets out of hand and people start dying.

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    Garry, I see you just joined the forum. Do you think it's "nonsense" when people peacefully exercise their First Amendment rights? And the vast majority of these protests have been peaceful.

    I ask you to imagine what Trump supporters would be doing if Hillary had won the electoral vote and lost the popular vote by 600,000 and climbing? Some of them would be burning buildings down. They'd be carrying their guns in the street and talking armed revolution. They'd be screaming about a rigged election.

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    I support 1000000% the angry demonstrations against Trump and what he stands for. We need more of them, large ones, continuously, not less! If I were in the USA, I'd be out in the streets too...but I'm in Europe. What happened was not the normal political bullshit.....it is now an emergency situation in the USA and whatever has to be done has to be done. And one shitload of things have to be done to stop American from becoming more of a fascist police state. Street protests as long as they are peaceful are one of them. Civil disobedience is fine too. Stop the machine! If only the Germans had raised their voices in protest against Hitler. In the USA now we face the same beast, IMO. The Breitbart webite's head is now #2 advisor to Trump - the man is a Hitler type! This man not only hates the groups that Trump does, but Jews as well. I condemn Obama and Clinton for even stating that they will work with Trump and urging others to. Stop the machine before it stops us!

    There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it — that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! - Mario Savio 1664
    Last edited by Peter Lemkin; 11-14-2016 at 03:59 PM.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
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    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry McNeil View Post
    Is it just me or have you also noticed that Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and President Obama have been silent about the protests?
    The very people who have the power to stop these protests and riots with just a few well-spoken words have been completely silent on the issue.
    No politician can stop what's happening.

    You ain't seen nothin' yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry McNeil View Post
    Is it just me or have you also noticed that Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and President Obama have been silent about the protests?
    I think it might be just you Garry. I saw Bernie on the TV denouncing the violence. No one is denouncing the protests though. Nor should they. It is a right to protest.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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