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    Youtube is being increasingly controlled - but just in the nick of time there are starting to be a proliferation of other video sites. Many are still small, but they will grow. Corbett did a show on these new video outlets - they have everything and more that Youtube does minus being known about widely - yet. So, if you come across a hot video and are afraid it will disappear from youtube you can repost it on these others which do NOT censor except in extreme cases [beheadings, gratuitous violence, snuff films, etc.]
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
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  2. #32

    Default Outstanding analysis

    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

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    That is a good analysis and video! Only thing that concerns me is the apparent muzzle flashes seen in at least one video and reported on the police tape of a shooter also in the Mandalay Bay, but at a much lower floor and apparently near the center part of the structure. If someone was not shooting from there, why are muzzle flashes seen from there [and reported from near there by eyewitness police]. More upsetting is why would the FBI and/or Police want to hide more than one gunman unless they were in someway complicit or would some how be embarrassed if the truth were told? Why in the world did the Police special team take about 70 minutes to break into the room of the alleged shooter - LONG after he had stopped shooting? Something[s] are not right here.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lemkin View Post
    That is a good analysis and video! Only thing that concerns me is the apparent muzzle flashes seen in at least one video and reported on the police tape of a shooter also in the Mandalay Bay, but at a much lower floor and apparently near the center part of the structure. If someone was not shooting from there, why are muzzle flashes seen from there [and reported from near there by eyewitness police]. More upsetting is why would the FBI and/or Police want to hide more than one gunman unless they were in someway complicit or would some how be embarrassed if the truth were told? Why in the world did the Police special team take about 70 minutes to break into the room of the alleged shooter - LONG after he had stopped shooting? Something[s] are not right here.
    The way I choose to read his analysis is that it is a minimal thesis -- at least two. Once you prove that, the entire government scenario of the Lone Nut falls apart. And we know that Lone Nuts provide their own excuse -- you can't stop one guy with a gun who chooses evil.

    In the meantime, my post on Disclosure, if it hits the news as I suspect, will make this whole thing go away. Look over there. Las Vegas? Old news. Oh yah, I remember that.

    Their story is in a shambles as the crowdsource researchers tear it apart. For example, the hero security guard who was shot in the leg after the shooting started now was shot 5 to 8 minutes before the shooting started. He reported his being shot at the 32 second floor BEFORE the shooting started! Then some cops show up 15 minutes after the onset and started inspecting the floors, one fucking floor at a time? After that, they realize they might need to call a SWAT team. The Story has been so shot up that they are going to have to change the subject. But that has been done before -- as you well know.
    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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    I agree, it is an excellent analysis presented rationally. Isn't it a terrible crime that it takes a civilian scientist and long range shooter to do this freely, whereas the FBI and police spend their time trashing science to reach what appears to be a predetermined conclusion.
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    CNN

    (CNN) Breaking News – Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Compos has been arrested accused of being an accomplice and second shooter in the Las Vegas massacre that claimed the lives of 59 people and injured more than 500.

    Jesus Campos had originally been praised for his apparent heroics on October 1st, as he supposedly rushed to Paddock’s suite, was shot in the upper thigh through the door, and continued to help get people to safety despite his wounds. However, FBI officials involved in the investigation now believe he was an accomplice of Paddock’s, and was involved in the initial shooting as a second gunman from the other broken window in Paddock’s 32nd-floor room.

    According to a senior FBI official, authorities became suspicions by the extreme amount of gunpowder residue found on Campos’ hands and inconsistencies in his timeline of events. “We believe he killed Paddock, shot holes through the door and his own arm to produce physical evidence for his cover story, then went and lay next to the elevator,” the FBI official told CNN.

    An anonymous source working on the investigation told CNN that authorities are now in possession of security footage showing Campos smuggling the firearms used in the massacre in through a Mandalay Bay loading dock in the days leading up to the event.

    With the arrest of Compos Police now hope to get a greater understanding of the motivations behind the attack.
    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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    Well that was interesting - and is not being reported on most news sites [no surprise there....as most have still not caught up with the shooting in Dallas not having being done by one person in the many decades since]. That might explain some things, but not the apparent two other locations [minimally]....and still nothing of motive. A rich accountant and a hotel guard sound like rather strange buddies in a shooting spree. There is obviously much more that went on here. No one seems to be looking from the official side - and of course Trump nor anyone else at the top called it terrorism.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    There is obviously much more that went on here.
    They jumped the shark on this one. They needed a bigger and better story. Obvious bullshit.

    Imagine if the crowdsourcing communities and resources existed in the time of JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, Watergate, etc.
    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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    And just where is the security guard? He was supposed to do tv last night then just disappeared minutes before going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn Meredith View Post
    And just where is the security guard? He was supposed to do tv last night then just disappeared minutes before going on.
    More than just 'disappeared'....he was said to have been moved to a medical facility after having disappeared from a room in which the media were already present....something a stage magician would be proud of. Powerful forces obviously don't want anyone going off script. Now there are several versions and timelines for what happened and only one [or none so far offered] can be true...... This is a local LV newspaper report of how things are now....confused and confusing and getting worse. I'm afraid this security guard will soon turn up dead and the truth [or at least his story] will not be heard.

    Mandalay Bay security guard skips TV interviews after Las Vegas shooting

    A sign warning members of the news media not to enter Jesus Campos' home in east Las Vegas hangs on a gate on Friday, Oct. 13, 2017. Sandy Lopez Las Vegas Review-Journal

    Jesus Campos, the Mandalay Bay security guard who first encountered mass shooter Stephen Paddock, is shown in an image provided by the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America. SPFPA

    Jesus Campos, the Mandalay Bay security guard who first encountered mass shooter Stephen Paddock, second from right, is shown in an image provided by the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America. Campos was given the "SPFPA Hero Award" for bravery in the line of duty. SPFPA












    By Brian Joseph, Sandy Lopez and Mike Brunker Las Vegas Review-Journal
    October 13, 2017 - 11:01 am




    Jesus Campos, the Mandalay Bay security guard who first encountered mass shooter Stephen Paddock, vanished Thursday afternoon hours before planned interviews with five TV networks, his union president said Friday.
    “The union doesn’t have any idea where he’s at at this time,” said David Hickey, international president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, which represents security guards at Mandalay Bay.
    Hickey said he had been with Campos for the last four days, along with another union member, helping him prepare for media interviews. He said Campos was staying in a Las Vegas-area hotel suite, with a living room and an adjoining bedroom.
    On Thursday at about 1 p.m., Hickey said he and the union’s local president took a meeting with MGM officials in the bedroom, while Campos, the other union member and a security guard hired by MGM to protect Campos waited in the living room.
    At 2 p.m., when Hickey emerged from the meeting, he said Campos and the other people were gone.
    Hickey said he called and texted the other union member. The only response he received is that Campos was being taken to a Quick Care health clinic.
    Since then, he indicated Friday afternoon, he has heard nothing about the trio’s whereabouts.
    “It’s a strange story,” Hickey said. “But it is what it is.”
    Local USPFPA President Dennis Lang did not respond to multiple calls from the Review-Journal on Friday.
    Hickey said Campos was scheduled to do the Sean Hannity show on Fox News at about 6 p.m. Thursday from a local TV studio. After that, he was going to do interviews with NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN.




    Hickey said he is not concerned for Campos’ safety, just his health. When asked if he thought MGM had anything to do with Campos’ disappearance, Hickey simply noted that the corporation was taking care of him.
    In a statement, MGM Resorts International said it had nothing to do with the cancellation.
    “Jesus Campos is a hero who has been credited with saving lives and being a part of interrupting a shooting rampage. MGM Resorts could not be more proud of him,” it said. “The notion that we are in any way preventing him from telling his story is absurd. When it comes to media appearances by Jesus, our only concern has been and will continue to be Jesus.”
    Police in Las Vegas have said Campos first encountered Paddock when he checked on a door alarm on the 32nd floor and heard the sound of drilling. He was shot in the leg as he neared Paddock’s hotel suite, they say.

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    Jesus Campos was set to do 5 intvs tonight per union president, but they’ve lost contact. “We were in a room & we came out & he was gone”
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    “This was a remarkable effort by a brave and remarkable man,” Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said on Oct. 6.




    Campos’ house in the Sunrise Manor neighborhood in east Las Vegas has been staked out by reporters since he was identified as the guard who encountered Paddock on the 32nd floor of the hotel on Oct. 1. Piles of business cards from reporters are often stacked on top of his mailbox.
    On Scene Investigation & Security Inc. was hired to provide 24-hour security at the home. A white truck is often parked outside or near the house, manned by security officers who intercept any strangers who approach the house.
    A security guard named Troy, who declined to provide his last name, said CNN, Fox and various other local media outlets were camped outside the home for several days, typically arriving at 8:30 a.m. and leaving around 6 p.m.
    Troy declined to say how many guards had been hired, who hired them or whether Campos was in the house.
    Hickey said Campos was eager to tell his story and wanted to get it out in one day. “He’s got a great story to tell,” Hickey said.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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