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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lemkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Johnson View Post
    Multiple reports of multiple shooters from multiple locations. Hushed up.

    Interesting and believable - but fatally flawed. Both the questioner and the interviewee know, but do NOTHING to TELL those listening the MOST important possible piece of information, i.e. the physical distance and relationship of the hotel she was in and the hotel the official story was about! I have spent a lot of time trying to find this out and they seem to be quite a long distance away, as my first thoughts were they heard the shots because the two hotels were near. The fact, however, they never mention this, but assume the listener would know [even as an American I hate L.V. and have never 'stopped' there except for gas to keep on driving the **** out of that hellhole]. This is different than the different floors stories and goes into the different hotel area story - but I don't see how such a mass event could be covered up. This woman seems believable, but I'd like to hear a few other people at the same hotel too to confirm, as there seem not to have been victims in other places than the concert and that was not near to this hotel. Not saying it isn't so, but this kind of interview is a raw story that needs work to become research information. The other question is why would authorities try to mask multiple gunmen or multiple locations - especially one so far from the official location? I can't find a map that has distance, but the two hotels are six L.V. 'blocks' away - which is a long distance as the 'blocks' are HUGE. That could be a mile or more...maybe two miles....hard to imagine the shots would be heard so well even in the desert air.
    Good points. I watched a lot of this live, and on YouTube there is a scrolling comment window. Yes, this was a separate shooting incident, one among several. The Belagio Hotel is about 1.5 miles or so from the Mandalay. The woman's testimony and video evidence is quite compelling arguing for a second shooting attack shortly after the Mandalay attack. So I think her story holds up.

    Clearly the many reports of multiple shooters and this report of the Belagio shooting and rumors of more hotel shootings need to be confirmed. I will keep looking out for more reports.

    How would they keep this quiet? Well, I know you know how that works. As this woman said, she knows a lot of people who are afraid to tell their stories. Same thing happened with JFK witnesses. They clammed up.
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    Watch this video for a dense but nice cab driver who captures shooting from about the 6-10th floor of the Mandaley Bay Hotel and then picks up witnesses/victims who are freaking out. This may be removed soon, so catch and download it NOW! Note: Youtube is taking down most videos purporting to say or show there were more than one location of gunfire.


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    There are problems with some of the videos, audio and 'analyses' that there were multiple shooters or that the official story doesn't hold water; however, that said, there are more than enough clues that can not be easily disposed of indicating that this may just be the case and reality....here is one of the [IMO] flawed reports/analysis - but raising questions needing to be answered and being ignored [haven't we seen that before!]


    As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him.
    But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.
    The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…
    #1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?
    #2 Were there additional shooters? A taxi driver reportedly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window. A video from another angle and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on. And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video should definitely do it.
    #3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”, and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?
    #4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?
    #5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?
    #6 How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons? Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I really like how Natural News made this point…




    Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

    Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.
    #7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?
    #8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?
    #9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?
    #10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?
    [sorry, I have edited out 11-13 as I can't give them any credence.
    #14 Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.
    #15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…




    In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

    From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”
    #16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible?
    Personally, I have come to the conclusion that Stephen Paddock definitely did not act alone. That means that the others involved in the shooting are still out there, and they must be brought to justice. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...nt-want-talk-a
    Last edited by Peter Lemkin; 10-07-2017 at 03:57 PM.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Default Excellent compilation of videos

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    I put this up to provide context: Infowars is part of a controlled dialectic.

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    At about :05, a crouching security guard (left side of video) appears to shoot into the crowd and then flash across the video at :15.

    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Johnson View Post
    At about :05, a crouching security guard (left side of video) appears to shoot into the crowd and then flash across the video at :15.

    I get 'this video is unavailable'.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lemkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Johnson View Post
    At about :05, a crouching security guard (left side of video) appears to shoot into the crowd and then flash across the video at :15.

    I get 'this video is unavailable'.
    They pulled it. Wow. It never happened.
    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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    Search for the title and you will find copies of the video outside of youtube, e.g. https://rumble.com/v3rvcf-las-vegas-...-on-crowd.html

    I can see the guard, obviously holding a rifle, but I am not sure if he fires and on what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten Wiethoff View Post
    Search for the title and you will find copies of the video outside of youtube, e.g. https://rumble.com/v3rvcf-las-vegas-...-on-crowd.html

    I can see the guard, obviously holding a rifle, but I am not sure if he fires and on what.
    You can see the muzzle flash. imo.
    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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