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    Didn't the Kostikov/Oswald memo go out around October 8th?

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    Good short summary by Dick Russell
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    They say there's no "smoking gun" documents among ths still secret government records on the assassinatoin of President Kennedy, though a number of smoking documents have been released under the JFK Act - the Higgins Memo for one.

    In the seaach for a reasonable scenario to explain everything that happened on November 22, 1963, the deranged lone nut case can be dismissied since it can't explain how one man Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of committing the act alone, and the evidence and witness testimony confirm that Oswald was not on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting.

    The original Phase One Cover Story - that Castro Cuban Communists were behind the Dealey Plaza operation is also dismissed, based on the evidence, witnesses reports and the National Security Agency (NSA) intercept of Cuban and Soviet communications.

    That this psychological warfare operation - a black propaganda operation is still in effect indicates that the intelligence network responsible for the Dealey Plaza operation is still finctioning, as exhibited by the works of Brien Letell, Robert Baer and Phil Shenon.

    Other scenarios have been suggested - that the assassination was a plot by renegade CIA officers and the Mafia, which is still proposed by some - ie. G. Robert Blakey, Gary Cornwell, et al., though that too has its problems.

    Michael Paine's mother - Ruth Forbes Paine Young was involved in extablishing a special training unit at the United Nations that placed young diplomats in various scenariois they could face in real life, and the US military trains its soldiers in field sccenarios to see how they will act and train them to do it correctly, or at least do it the way the generals want them to do it.

    During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Attorney General Robert Kennedy asked Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara to come up with a solution that wouldn't lead to invasion or war, and McNamara said that when they ran military scanarios of Soviet missles in Cuba months earlier, the solultion that worked was summarized in one word: Blocade. Which worked, much to the dismay of the military brass who pushed for invasion.

    As I occassioinally help train soldiers, I know for a fact that they still use a Sand Table to plan missions. I watched an Op Force - Opposition Force team lean over an elevated Sand Table box with their team leader drawing a curve in the road and pointing to the apex as the place to attack as convoy slowed down. I'm sure those who planned out the Dealey Plaza opertion used even more complex models, practices and "dry runs" and controlled the situation completely, timed it to the second, as they only had a one hour window of opportunity.

    There have been various phrases, matrix models and games used to try to explain what happened at Dealey Plaza - "a mystery wrapped in an enigma," saying its like "going into the Rabbit's Hole," ala Alice and "Through the Looking Glass," (Shenon), or a "Wilderness of Mirrors" (Angleton), whose criptic - "A house has many rooms. I am not privy to who shot John,” still rings cryptically.

    The French Intelligence chief said it was "like a magic trick, complete with smoke, mirrors and disaperaing sets," while the former Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) US Army, and NSA, said it was "Like the movie the Sting.”
    A Big Con job.

    The Chess model is also popular, as some of the primary suspects called themselves "Bishop" (David Phillips) and "Knight" (E. Howard Hunt), and it is a peculiar anaomaly that a simple pawn like Oswald could take out a King, not only get him in checkmate so he can't make a move, but actually getting close enough to kill the King, blindsiding him. That's another good reason Oswald didn't commit the deed alone.

    The anomally grows when considering the fact that if the president was killed by a deranged lone nut case, then the assassin would be posthumously subjected to deep psychological analysis - and that he would be classified as a paranoid skodso, or whatever, but he's not. Oswald was not crazy, even though the Secret Service study of assassins and attackers put him in that category.

    When I read that report I looked for a unique category and when they didn't inlude it, being from New Jersey where we have developed criminal profiling into an art, I made one up - the Covert Operational Personality Profile (COPP), that is characterized by military training (usually USMC), fluency in foreign language, ability to travel,. and training and use of covert intelligence crafts and techniaues - including codes, ciphers and operational procedures.

    While Oswald creates the mold for this matrix, it also includes some other well known COPP operatives - Jerry Patrick Hemming, Frank Sturgis, the Watergate burglers, Felix Rodregiez, the Oklahoma City bombers, as examples of the pawns in what they call "The Great Game" of covert intelligence opertions.

    Without having really looked yet, most say there is no "smoking gun" in the still secret JFK assassination files, yet, if the assassintion at Dealey Plaza was not the work of a deranged loner, but was in fact a well planned and sucessfully executed coup detat, the evidence MUST be in the government filies - you just have to know where to look.

    For starters, if it was a coup, an inside job - then they had to it by the book - the handbook - Edward Lutwack's "Coup d'etat - A Practical Handbook," (X), that explains exactly how to do it.

    One of the key elements of any successful coup, according to Lutwack, is control of the communications - and if you look closely at who was controlling the communications into and out of Dealey Plaza and Air Force One you get a good idea who was running things.

    In addition, a study of previous, simlair assassinations and coups would be a necessity, especially those involving the same MO - Modus Operandi - that of a sniper shooting a high priority target (HPT) moving in an open vehicle as the Nazi general was during World War II, the 1962 attack on President deGaul in France, and the CIA plans to attack Castro when he rode by in an open jeep.

    Of course if they practiced covert operational techniques, then they would not have anything written down, operated on a need to know basis, and utilzed lines of authority that included "cut-outs" and case officers.

    If it was a coup, as I suspect, then the evidence is in government files, and they won't be caughing it up despite the JFK Act ordered them to.

    But the evidence is there, I know it.


    TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2017

    JFK Act Joint Resolution

    JFK Act Joint Resolution

    WHEREAS - The United States Congress unanimously passed and President G. H. Walker Bush signed the JFK Act of 1992 that requires all government records on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy be released in full to the public by October 26, 2017; and

    ACCORDING to the JFK Act the Archivist of the United States (AOTUS) and the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) are responsible for seeing the law is carried out, specifically requiring the AOTUS to publish an index and guide to the JFK Collection at Archives II, and to continue to search for missing and illegally withheld records; and

    ACCORDING to the Act, the House and Senate oversight committees of Congress, are responsible for oversight of the law and seeing that it is enforced; and

    ACCORDING to the Act only the President of the United States (POTUS) has the power to continue withholding records or parts of records beyond that date, without stated reasons, and the AOTUS, NARA, the POTUS and Congress failed to adhere to the letter of the law. releasing only a small fraction of the relevant records, most with redactions without required explanation; and

    ACCORDING to the law the JFK Act remains in force until the AOTUS notifies the President, Congress and the citizens that every JFK Assassination Record has been released to the public in full;

    BE IT RESOLVED: We the undersigned researchers, historians, journalists, legislators and citizens of the United States do hereby request:

    1- The JFK Act be upheld, the AOTUS spply the NARA with the money, manpower and materials to do the job, produce and publish a useful and accurate index and guide to the JFK Collection, as required by the law, search for missing and wrongfully withheld records; and

    2- The responsible committees of Congress full fill their oversight responsibilies by giving NARA the funds and manpower to complete this job, hold open public hearings on the JFK Act, inquire into the missing and withheld records, and hold those public servents responsible for the missing and destroyed records, and see to the full public release of all government records on the assassination, without redactions; and

    3-Require the Inspector General of NARA, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Department of Defense (DOD, and Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate the failure of the government to adhere to this law and related crimes involving the illegal destruction and theft of missing evidence and records in this case; and

    4- The President of the United States order the release of all remaining JFK Assassination Records without redactions, according to the JFK Act of 1992, and as required by that law:

    SIGNED BY: Signaures - and position

    Will you sign this?


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    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    NARA just released ~3539 documents. Most were previously released in part, but more than any previous release there are many that had been withheld in full. This is IMO the most interesting group yet. I have found some interesting stuff in the several hours I've browsed through. You can find them here:
    Unfortunately, there are the usual problems: many that are totally illegible [one hilariously named 'retyped over illegible original']; multiple copies of the same document confusing things, files with redactions [one I found was 100% redacted!], previously withheld in part still with redactions [i.e. still withheld in part] and listed papers listed as withheld in full - none of this in the spirit nor the letter of the JFK Act. That said and that criminal activity aside, one can find some little gems in your field of interest and look to me to be some of the more significant docs so far any good one here and elsewhere. Some of these are huge files running to hundreds of pages. Some do not give the number of pages until you open them. The sloppyness, lack of care and due diligence, subversion of the JFK Act, is extreme....but we get some new crumbs. I found a few that are quite significant, IMHO. [if you know the larger picture]. No one document ever will be a 'smoking gun' - only part of a mosaic that when put together correctly outlines the smoking guns of Dallas, in part. The most damning information was either never committed to paper, has been destroyed or is being withheld and denied to even exist. However, to an intelligent and trained person we now have enough to prove our points, and even expand upon it now. We must push for the unredacted release of all documents [and this list as I have often stated is NOT the complete or even nearly the complete list of relevant documents - not to mention there are no doubt many relevant documents we don't even know about to list...]!
    Last edited by Peter Lemkin; 12-18-2017 at 02:11 PM.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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    On the final page (or thereabouts), this document has been posted maybe 20 times in a row, same document. It's not uninteresting but I hope the repetition simply bumped up the number, and didn't wipe out other more interesting documents.

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    Previously withheld in full. Comments from officials at Cuban Embassy in Chile.


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    John McCone memorandum for LBJ redacts long paragraph discussing a "very sensitive effective operation working in Mexico City... which involved telephone surveillance and was being done in a most careful manner with his knowledge and with the assistance of a few of his trusted officials."

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    Fat redaction in this minutes of meeting of the Special Group, August 1962. Colonel Steakley is present for the stuff they don't want us to know about.

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    Big Rockefeller report, previously withheld in full, on Dominican Republic, Trujilo etc. Only thing redacted is who sent it, and a small crypt on top of page 2.

    Same report pops top again. Stuff redacted from above file is back in and readable. Some new stuff is redacted, and the new stuff redacted as (as far as I can tell) stuff that you can read in the first document.

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    Helms deposition, previously withheld in full.

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