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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel Richerson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lemkin View Post

    Skorzeny's last or second from last major covert operation in Nazi Germany was with Gen. Hans Kammler - moving top secret Nazi weapons systems and documentation for them south to some underground facilities. After the War Skorzeny kept in contact with Mrs. Kammler. Gen. Hans Kammler was in USA custody [secretly] - the official story was he committed suicide on the last day of the War - but I have US military and other documents that prove otherwise. Interestingly, Kammler's interrogator was FOI/CIA and had [at least] a minor role in the JFK assassination..... and interestingly had some relationship with [among other JFK suspects] Lemnitzer.

    Rainer Karlsch ran an interesting piece in 2014 in a German historical journal which was partly used for the 2014 ZDF documentary by Andreas Sulzer. All of that matches in parts with what you said. However ZDF is near History Channel level popcorn fair for German TV but the journal article was not. Sulzer sans Karlsch is apparently in the midst of some type of High Jump high strangeness documentary as a corollary. There was a thread here on the documentary once that brought me out of lurking once. I have tracked down all of Karlsch's documentation and exhibits excluding his items about Donald Richardson which have not checked out at all. Other than a tenuous connection to OSS Society membership. In fact several of them apparently just do not exist in the format and medium Karlsch cited them. I am further more dubious that this specific Richardson is involved with Sulzer in a Highjump film.

    Nevermind how this correlates with some of Knaack's interviews and items with the family.

    Peter is the FOI-CIA gentleman you mention, Donald W. Richardson, from Karlsch's recent work? If he is do you have any confirmation from documents of his claims? His son has stated he had close connections to Pash through ALSOS, Lemay, Lemnitzer, Eisenhower, Dulles, and more peculiarly a story about Winston Scott. Most of the archival work I have done on him makes it seem rather pedestrian and not what his son John purports him to be. Of course that is exactly what it would look like if those items were red-lined. The items Karlsch cites in the public archives and papers do not appear to be what was shown to him or possibly actually related to another relative inside of Army CIC.
    I'm rather impressed by your knowledge on the subject and some of the people you know about. I invite you to PM me about this subject. I am writing a book on something closely related to 'all this', so am more than somewhat hesitant to post too much of what I know and how I know it. In fact, I know every person you mentioned and probably some you'd like to know about. Let's just say the Deep State has long been very good at hiding identities and details of persons it doesn't want the public to know about or know about truthfully. As I type this I have in another window a real document with false information intentionally input on one of the names you mention [DWR]. To me, that is a red flag that rather than not being important as a casual reading of the document I hint about would lead the average person to believe, this person was VERY important indeed. Of course, one needs to know the background of the person and why such a cover-up might be instigated to come to such a conclusion....but I've been on the trail of things related to what you are talking about for many decades. Let me just say there is a there there, and more there there than not there. Sorry for being so cryptic - I have my reasons. Let me add one other point. I have worked with many covert operatives and seen the official documents one can obtain on them. In all cases I was personally involved with, there were provably false items on the official paperwork that could NOT be chance clerical errors. It is SOP to create some false documentation on covert operatives of a certain type in case nosy researchers of the truth should ever seek them. It is like a crooked accountant keeping two sets of books. The more truthful documents are kept much more securely in 'do not file files' often (or not kept at all). This makes the work discerning the truth much more difficult - but far from impossible.......
    ......I could say much more on 'all this', but decline to do so here, at this time. This is one of the more deep and sensitive subjects I have come across in my research career. As with other important covert operatives/operations there is both information and disinformation [as well as just bad research] that is floating around [or buried]. I won't have Ganis' book until tomorrow - but whatever he says or fails to say, I know from my independent sources that many Nazis were involved in many US covert operations [including JFK assassination] after the War. This, however, should not come as any great surprise, as we know that much of the Nazi spy apparatus was imported into the CIA and other intelligence entities. Some high-level or special importance person were 'imported' more individually. The Soviets and other nations all tried on their own to get such persons and groupings. The way the Second World War really ended [not the way history books have it] with all the secret deals and technology/personnel transfers really set the stage for the Cold War to come. The Cold War was IMO a continuation of WWII in many ways - as is the current War of Terror and move to neo-fascism in the USA today.
    Sometimes I have to ponder who really won and who really lost the War......but I digress.
    Anyway, your knowledge of this subject area is far and away more advanced than 99.9999% of persons - and I'm curious how you got to this interest and knowledge. While I find some of your scepticism on target, some of it, according to my research is not warranted. Sadly, not the best researchers have been on the forefront of that parts of this has so far come out publicly. There is much more to tell and it will soon be told. This all involves very closely held secrets and things that have been suppressed for a long long time....and are still being actively suppressed. This gets into the cargo of the U-234, the true secrets of the Manhattan Project, the Nazi nuclear and rocket programs [only parts of which have come out - and some of what has come out has been officially debunked even though it is really true]...etc. et al. I stop here or I'll tell more than I feel comfortable. Has anyone here heard about the secret US Military raid on friendly Czechoslovakia six months after the end of WWII? They said they were looking for the remains of a downed pilot, but they really were looking for buried Nazi documents of a VERY important nature...and they found parts of them and moved them to W. Berlin unbeknownst to their Czechoslovak friends. Most of history has been done in secret and only the chaff is told to the Public. I also know about the largest underground Nazi facility - which I have been to, and has NOT YET been made public - let alone what was done inside there, nor what the USA and Soviets knew about it after the War. OK...time to stop. All of these seemingly unrelated things are intimately related, and sadly related in strange ways to the JFK assassination and much of history post WWII too. We, generally, have been lied to - on purpose - to control us and to allow those in real power to continue their agendas in secret.
    Last edited by Peter Lemkin; 07-12-2018 at 05:25 AM.
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  2. #52

    Default The Skorzeny Papers and Book Correlation Matrix

    Even though some readers on this site don't agree with my statistical methods, I am posting my newest matrix of book correlations which has been updated with The Three Barons and the Skorzeny Papers. Note the high correlation between the Three Barons and Farewell America by James Hepburn. This was a total surprise to me. As I have said before, you never know what will jump out of the numbers.

    36% 7% 6% 5% 4% 4% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 2% 2% 2% 2%
    warren lbj-hoover cubans solidarist segregationists
    castro-mafia world leaders right-wing mossad skorzeny
    percenage variation garrison uk-jews mil-complex jbs
    36% 7% 6% 5% 4% 4% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 2% 2% 2% 2%
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
    RUSHJUD 0.87 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    MEAGHER 0.85 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    WARRENC 0.75 0.3 0.3 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    BLAKEY 0.66 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.0 -0.1 0.3 0.0 -0.1 0.1 0.0
    HERITAGE 0.58 0.3 0.6 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    PDSCOTT 0.58 0.3 0.1 0.4 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.2 -0.1 -0.1 0.1 0.0
    CASTRO 0.2 0.77 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.0 0.0 -0.1 0.1 0.2 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0
    KAISER 0.3 0.75 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    TMWKTM 0.2 0.64 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.3 0.0 0.2 0.1 -0.1 -0.1 0.1 0.0
    DOUGLASS 0.4 0.51 0.4 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    BTREASON 0.4 0.50 0.3 0.5 0.2 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    TRAILASS 0.2 0.1 0.79 0.1 0.1 0.3 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.1 -0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0
    MELLEN 0.1 0.2 0.69 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.1 0.3 0.0 -0.1 0.1 -0.1 -0.1 0.0 0.0
    MENLEE 0.2 0.3 0.68 0.1 0.0 -0.1 -0.1 -0.2 -0.1 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.0 0.0
    LBJMAST 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.89 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0
    HOOVER 0.3 0.2 0.1 0.80 0.1 0.2 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    BARONS3 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.88 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0
    HEPBURN 0.1 0.3 0.0 0.3 0.59 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.0
    EIR 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.93 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    TORBITT 0.4 0.1 0.4 0.4 0.1 0.51 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    FONZI 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.90 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    WALKER 0.2 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.0 -0.1 0.81 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.2 0.0 0.1
    PROUTY 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.94 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0
    RINELLA 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.89 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    FINALJUD 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.86 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    JBSBIG 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.2 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.95 0.0 0.0 0.0
    GOTHICPO 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.96 0.0 0.0
    SKORZENY 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.97 0.0
    MINUTEMN 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.00
    Farewell America
    duplicate Castro, Fidel 8
    Curry, Jesse 8
    Dulles, Allen 10
    * Eisenhower, Dwight 32
    Hoover,J Edgar 10
    Hunt, H L 14
    * Johnson, Lyndon B 26
    * Kennedy, Robert F 31
    Manchester, William 10
    Nixon, Richard M 9
    Odonnell, Kenneth 8
    * Oswald, Lee Harvey 16
    Roosevelt, Franklin 23
    Truman, Harry S 9
    * Walker, Edwin 11
    The Three Barons
    Adenauer, Konrad 43
    Chaing Kai-Shek 43
    Dodd, Thos J 84
    Eastland, James O 59
    * Eisenhower, Dwight 78
    Gill, William J 45
    Hitler, Adolf 72
    * Johnson, Lyndon B 73
    Kennedy, John F 84
    * Kennedy, Robert F 59
    Klein, Julius 45
    McCarthy, Joseph 79
    * Oswald, Lee Harvey 91
    Otepka, Otto 59
    * Walker, Edwin 45

    James Lateer

  3. #53

    Default The Skorzeny Papers

    In answer to the several questions from Mr. Lemkin about the Ganis book.

    1. Ganis uses unnumbered notes by chapter just as in The Three Barons. The difference is, that in the Three Barons, I tried to put a "direction finder" in each separate item in the note to point to the particular fact that was supported by the note in the particular chapter involved. I started with good intentions and numbered notes, but when you have 110 notes for one chapter as I did, the renumbering becomes brutal if you add or remove even one note. There is apparently no way in Microsoft Word to automatically correlate note numbers between text and notes. I think they do this in Wikipedia, but neither the publisher nor myself had any easy solution.

    2. Mr. Ganis states that there is an ongoing effort to find the proper archives to safeguard and store the Skorzeny records. I could recommend the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison. I have gone through 17 boxes of personal papers of James Dombrowski there. There was one FBI file missing from the boxes. But the WHS had microfilm which I used to fill the gap before I sent them along to Dr. Caufield for his use. The WHS has 20 or 30 microfilm scanners which cost $10,000 each I was told.

    3. On the Kammler issue, I have recently read biographies on Gen Karl Wolff, Gen. Walter Schellenberg, Maj. Horst Kopkow (Gestapo and U.K.agent) and also further back Martin Bormann, Skorzeny and Stuka Pilot Hans-Ulrich Rudel. I have on order one on Himmler and another Goring ($12.00 total for two!). Also I read Gregory Douglas' controversial Muller Journals.

    I have not seen a lot of info on Kammler. In general, it seems difficult to determine all the people who might have interrogated a particular Nazi. The British used Kopkow, who was the Deputy to Muller at the Gestapo. They used him up at least into the 1960's as a consultant. When the British was using him, they sent the Americans a phony obituary saying that he died in London. He didn't; he lived for years thereafter.

    I am confidant that the worldwide Nazi network were in the midst of the JFK plot. But the only members who I have actually seen connected (besides Skorzeny) is Martin Bormann in "Treason For My Daily Bread" by Mikhail Lebedev and Hans-Ulrich Rudel who is connect in the book "One Last Victim" by Gelb and Rosenthal. That latter connection went through Dan Burros whose name was in Oswald's notebook.

    Rudel was perhaps the most politically active in an aggressive way. He was part of a Neo-Nazi Party in West Germany just after the War. Unlike almost all the other fugitive Nazis, he was not Catholic and was not involved in the Vatican "ratlines". In fact, Rudel was the son of a Lutheran minister and was very clear about his own personal ethics, patriotism and idealism. Rudel is by far my favorite fugitive Nazi (a dubious honor). He was also a very good writer of memoirs IMO. And he really loved Argentina, too and not without good reason because of the natural beauty there.

    One of the shocking things to me that I took away from the Skorzeny Papers was that David Martin was head of the International Relief Organization (IRO). If you are a "Nazi hunter" like me, you probably know that the IRO was the group who provided false ID to the fugitive Nazis.

    You probably also know that it was David Martin who decided to knowingly release information on Soviet-Ukrainian double agent Bogdon Stashynsky in November, 1963 to try and mislead the American public into assuming that the Soviets killed JFK. Martin was "foreign relations chief" for Senator Thomas Dodd. Both of these roles were mentioned by Ganis.

    James Lateer

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    Default JFK Books and Assassination Theory

    Is it just me, or has the dialogue about Deep Politics issues hit a relatively slow spot?

    It is much more exciting to view somebody being accused of libel (as I was) than to skim through long postings (that IMO kind of ramble).

    As for 9-11, the only bottom line things I know about are (1) the material in The Road to 9-11 by P D Scott and the stuff on the anthrax attacks, which can be found on Wikipedia.
    But people who think that a cruise missile really hit the Pentagon or that the towers were brought down by explosives don't tend to support their position very clearly, IMO.

    Why not talk about the new "witnesses" in the Seth Rich case? The Seth Rich murder along with the "disappearing" DNC server are, to me, the most clear issues involving the Deep State. Those issues might intensify the discussions.

    As for my next effort, I will be adding two books to my statistical factor analysis of JFK books. (1) The Case Against Congress by Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson and (2) Despoilers of Democracy by Clark Mollenhoff. I will do this because it looks like the book Farewell America by James Hepburn may actually have been the best of the "inside information" books; better than Prouty, better than Torbitt, better than Executive Intelligence Review.

    This reinforces my theory that Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson actually knew the entire truth about the JFK assassination but agreed not to publish it in return for the censure of Sen. Thomas Dodd (who was at the center of the plot). It will be interesting to see the correlation between the Pearson and Mollenhoff lists of people to the Farewell America suspects.

    When Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson called their book "The Case Against Congress", they were talking about (IMO) the case against Congress in regards to the JFK assassination. But nobody put this together (as was their plan in publishing it).

    After adding these two books, I will also redo my analysis BY INDIVIDUALS to see if the factor analysis produces a better list of "suspects" than the list of suspects that I put together prior to this. My prior list had two categories in the first factor--(1) known JFK suspects and (2) world leader such as Ngo Dinh Diem, Henry Cabot Lodge, etc. This needs to be parsed in much more detail to identify how world leaders and known suspects interacted.

    I think that The Skorzeny Papers was a terrific breakthrough but it's tiresome to have to wait on the Albarelli book Coup in Dallas for the next new info. We need many more JFK books--AND FAST!!!

    One thing that really begs for attention, is to examine what we know about the CIA murder plots published by the Church Committee and compare that information to the latest material by Ganis in The Skorzeny Papers. We need to know the scope of the US Government assassination program and specifically how that relates to the Skorzeny network, the Operation Valkyrie plotters who we know were in the US in 1963 and the Church Committee and other CIA oriented sources.

    Let's all get busy.

    James Lateer

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    The Road to 9-11 by P D Scott and the stuff on the anthrax attacks, which can be found on Wikipedia.
    James, Scott's AMERICAN DEEP STATE goes a bit deeper, appropriately enough. It's a good book.

    And if you ever get time, Graeme MacQueen's book on the anthrax attacks is one of the best 9/11 volumes to date. Wikipedia doesn't come close on the subject. Grab the Kindle edition if you want to save some bucks.

    I suspect you won't be seeing too many more deep politics books on 9/11 for the next year or two, but a bunch will come out immediately after that. I suspect some writers are holding their horses for the 20th anniversary, which will swing the pendulum of media coverage back onto the topic in a big way.

  6. #56

    Default The Skorzeny Papers

    I just finished the Skorzeny Papers by Ganis and was very pleasantly surprised. I missed rigorous references and there are quite a lot of minor editing problems [all too common these days with books] - but putting those aside, this book is FULL of new names that are important - new connections of these new name and some old ones we all know of - and lastly putting Otto Skorzeny in his proper post-war position working with US and other Western intelligence agencies on special operations and assassinations. Ganis provides some tantalizing connections between Skorzeny's friends and intelligence/military connections that were connected to Dallas and specifically to the events of the JFK assassination. The Soutre-Skorzeny connection is also delineated. He has made a very strong case for Skorzeny having been the chief of QJ/WIN. I know few will read this book compared to other 'JFK books' - but this will be your loss and your mistake! This book is so important I'm about to re-read it and this time take notes on the associations, dates, etc. Ganis states he is going to place the original materials in some archive for others to work on further. He also makes clear that much of what was originally in these private papers of Skorzeny were not in those he purchased at auction - so there are some missing pieces - but more than enough to sink one's teeth and mind into! As I mentioned earlier, I have had Skorzeny on my own research radar for decades on another period [end of WWII and just after the War]. A friend of mine has some letters from Skorzeny written post-war and I will now re-read them with what I have learned from this book. Anyone not reading this book will have an incomplete JFK assassination book collection IMO. More research needs to be done on Skorzeny and some other names [many new!] mentioned in the book - but the author acknowledges this. With all that said, the last two chapters where Ganis tries to posit a outline of what happened in Dallas is very weak indeed. He is obviously not a student of the assassination and, IMO, fails in his attempt to make the Skorzeny network front and center in the assassination. However, he does name a few new names and associations that may help others. He goes a long way in the book to prove that Skorzeny was likely QJ/WIN and that one of his mechanics [Soutre] may well have been on assignment that day as one of the gunmen. Still, a very important book! I look forward to one on overlapping issues coming in the Fall by Albarelli.
    Last edited by Peter Lemkin; 07-22-2018 at 03:41 AM.
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