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    Thanks for the detailed answer to the Cielo Drive fence question, William. Certainly a lot to think about.

    Tex Watson said that after the crime, he threw away the long barrel .22 revolver that he shot Steve Parent with. Or did someone else shoot Parent again with it later, and then throw the pistol away on the upper canyon roads that morning? Did all the bullets in Parent's body match the same revolver?

    Come to think of it...did the Family have such easy access to small arms that a junior member was advised to throw a handgun away, even one that could be traced to a murder? It would seem not, since their only firearm of record was that small-caliber, hard to conceal, long-barrel revolver, the best they could beg-borrow-steal. Maybe the same handgun did go to Cielo Drive twice, and was thrown away by its true owner after his later visit.

    If no one in the house heard noise from Steve Parent backing his car into the curb and fence, also it's said that no one there was warned by the sound of several small-caliber gun shots before the home invasion. Yet neighbors in the canyon heard shots later in the night. Canyon acoustics, or some other explanation?

    P. S. - I enjoyed your writings on the TSBD some time ago, in The Third Decade (Fourth?)
    Last edited by David Andrews; 04-17-2019 at 01:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Andrews View Post
    Maybe the same handgun did go to Cielo Drive twice, and was thrown away by its true owner after his later visit.

    If no one in the house heard noise from Steve Parent backing his car into the curb and fence, also it's said that no one there was warned by the sound of several small-caliber gun shots before the home invasion. Yet neighbors in the canyon heard shots later in the night. Canyon acoustics, or some other explanation?

    P. S. - I enjoyed your writings on the TSBD some time ago, in The Third Decade (Fourth?)

    I think your comment that the handgun went to Cielo Drive twice is very interesting. I had assumed in the article I wrote that the three shots heard by Bullington came from a different gun.

    When found later by a teenage boy on a hillside, the nine shot revolver had seven empty chambers. We know that Frykowski had two bullet holes, Sebring had one. Perhaps Tex shot Parent once and assumed he was dead. That leaves three shots for the coup de grace to Parent.

    As you say, if Tex shot four bullets into Parent, it would be a stretch to assume that the shots did not alarm the people in the house and they come running out. But maybe one shot would not necessarily bring them out of the house.

    Thanks for your interest in my TSBD articles. If anyone on the forum is interested, you can watch an interview of me with James Fetzer and Larry Rivera.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVIUu6gJyec

    Also there is a schoolbook depository article I wrote for James Fetzer at

    https://jamesfetzer.org/2016/07/on-t...he-trade-mart/

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    When found later by a teenage boy on a hillside, the nine shot revolver had seven empty chambers. We know that Frykowski had two bullet holes, Sebring had one. Perhaps Tex shot Parent once and assumed he was dead. That leaves three shots for the coup de grace to Parent.

    As you say, if Tex shot four bullets into Parent, it would be a stretch to assume that the shots did not alarm the people in the house and they come running out. But maybe one shot would not necessarily bring them out of the house
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    Could be so, if Watson only had the shells loaded in the gun, and needed to save ammo for the house killings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Andrews View Post
    When found later by a teenage boy on a hillside, the nine shot revolver had seven empty chambers. We know that Frykowski had two bullet holes, Sebring had one. Perhaps Tex shot Parent once and assumed he was dead. That leaves three shots for the coup de grace to Parent.

    As you say, if Tex shot four bullets into Parent, it would be a stretch to assume that the shots did not alarm the people in the house and they come running out. But maybe one shot would not necessarily bring them out of the house
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    Could be so, if Watson only had the shells loaded in the gun, and needed to save ammo for the house killings.
    A better theory that I have been pondering is that the people in the house had consumed lethargy-inducing drugs. Therefore, Tex could have shot Parent four times before entering the house without having to worry about alarming those inside. A police homicide report said that a drug dealer was at the house the evening prior to the murders. It said:

    “Also connected with [Ed] Durston [boy friend of Diane Linkletter] in the original information received were three other hippies, all users of drugs and car thieves: Harvey F. Dareff (LA 978 313D), is the boy friend of Dianna Linkletter, and had lived with her for several months and was substantially supported by her. He is presently in New York as of approximately 9-25-69. He has not been eliminated as a suspect.

    Robert Parker MacDonald, aka Bobby Jamison (LA 684-737J), and James Steven Williams (LA 978-318W); these two subjects are presently in the Sunset Strip area and dealing in narcotics. Narcotics Division, LAPD is attempting to build a case on both subjects at this time. Neither has been eliminated positively as suspects.

    Investigators feel Dareff is a good suspect as some information has been received indicating he may have gone to the Cielo residence on the evening of 8-8-69, to possibly buy or sell some form of narcotics.”


    Dareff, Jameson, and Williams were the hippies in the van who gave caretaker William Garretson a ride back to the house from the Sunset Strip. According to Garretson there were hippie women in the van. Jameson, a musician who was the boyfriend of Nancy Harwood (a Playboy Playmate), wrote a bog in which he said he and Dareff were the hippies at or near the Tate house. Jameson also wrote that he and Nancy were in an apartment across the street from where Diane Linkletter fell or was pushed to her death while Jameson’s friend Ed Durston stood by in the apartment and another friend Jimmy George watched from the sidewalk.

    The drugs that Dareff supplied to the people at the Tate house might have been tainted with a lethargy-inducing ingredient. This would explain why they failed to take action at the sound of Parent’s car crashing into the parking lot fence or when four shots were fired into Parent, killing him.

    If Diane was among the hippies in the van, this could explain Marie Vigil’s statement in her letter that Diane was a witness the night of the Tate murders.

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    The drugs that Dareff supplied to the people at the Tate house might have been tainted with a lethargy-inducing ingredient. This would explain why they failed to take action at the sound of Parent’s car crashing into the parking lot fence or when four shots were fired into Parent, killing him.


    Yet what of the spotless William Garretson in the guesthouse, who avoided the carnage?

    William, you should be following this thread at Education Forum JFK Assassination Debate, re: the Manson book Chaos by Thomas O'Neill. I have tried to alert readers there to your thread here at DPF.

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/to...f-the-sixties/

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Andrews View Post

    The drugs that Dareff supplied to the people at the Tate house might have been tainted with a lethargy-inducing ingredient. This would explain why they failed to take action at the sound of Parent’s car crashing into the parking lot fence or when four shots were fired into Parent, killing him.


    Yet what of the spotless William Garretson in the guesthouse, who avoided the carnage?

    William, you should be following this thread at Education Forum JFK Assassination Debate, re: the Manson book Chaos by Thomas O'Neill. I have tried to alert readers there to your thread here at DPF.

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/to...f-the-sixties/

    Thanks for notifying me of the other thread. I have been out of town for the last few weeks. I see that I have some catching up to do.

    As for Garretson, I cannot see how he could be an innocent bystander. Most researchers, including me, cannot believe he failed to hear what was going on outside. Garretson was in charge of the dogs, including a Weimariner noted for his viciousness as an attack dog. That the dog was not out prowling around must be due to the fact that Garretson had something to do with keeping him contained. Garretson had been the dogkeeper since March 1969, prior to Manson's visit to the Cielo house on March 23.

    Garretson mentioned on his polygraph test on August 10 a "Patty Montgomery" who stayed with him for a while at the guest house. “Patty Montgomery” was an alias for Patricia Krenwinkel. The dogs probably knew her and got used to her presence. And of course, Garretson would have gotten to know the Manson Family. Patricia was probably his controller.

    I saw on the other thread that Joseph McBride posted a transcript of Mae Brussell’s October 13, 1971 show on Manson. I fully agree with her when she said “...the murder of Sharon Tate and the other persons in her home was a political massacre. ... It had to be planned well in advance of when it happened.

    When Manson visited Altobelli at Cielo Drive four months before the murders, he noticed the aggressiveness of the Weimariner. For his Helter Skelter plan to succeed, he must have had some assurance that the dogs would not be a problem. Thus the dogkeeper had to be in on the plot.

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    I have a written a third article on the Zodiac Killer.

    The Zodiac Killer and the CIA at

    https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2...r-and-the-cia/


    About a CIA agent who was a shooter inside the Texas School Cook Depository
    Last edited by William Weston; 11-30-2019 at 03:06 PM.

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