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    Let me say that I am not investigating these claims, BUT
    I WOULD NOT DISCOURAGE THOSE WHO ARE.

    I believe it would be a fruitful area for research, and encourage
    those who want to study it to do so. If just ONE fake victim is
    found, it might open many doors.

    I am particularly interested in the million dollar bribes to 911
    victims families NOT TO TALK. Why was the money offered?
    What were the families instructed not to say? Why was it thought
    that families of victims should be compensated? This was a
    strange and unprecedented GOVERNMENT response. Why?
    I think this should be investigated. This has little to do with
    faked names...or does it?

    Jack

    PS. Charles, I agree with your premise, but I think the Victims
    Compensation Fund is a separate issue and possible smoking gun.

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    This is a distant issue for me, too, though I must say I was curious when, in a conversation with a never-previously-highly-vocal anti-Truther who burst forward with a "new" ("soso") attack in a slaphazard cut-and-paste using the predictable sources for debunking, he took issue with my statement that there had never been a valid forensic investigation of the 9/11 events by immediately pointing to the DNA work.

    I actually meant forensic in the scientific, holistic and legal or evidentiary methods, and told him I thought the DNA work itself was hastily done and suspect for several reasons. I suggested to him that we collaborate on a taxonomy of the entirety of the days events using concept mapping software, and referred him to the search capabilities at History Commons, and suggested a page-by-page review and breakdown of the books by David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott, but as of this morning he hadn't taken me up on the offer.
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    Anti-Truthers and Troll-kind seem to avoid messing with Peter Dale Scott. :laugh:

    It probably stems from his rigorous research, factual writing and extensive footnotes.
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

  4. Default Regarding Tembe

    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten Wiethoff View Post
    Yesh M. Tembe


    World Trade Center

    Gadgets, Shrikhand, Brahms


    Precision mattered to Yesh M. Tembe, an accountant working for the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance, and it showed in his fondness for high- tech gadgets. On the Saturday before the terror attacks, he showed his nephew Cyrus Meherji a new, blue cellular phone -- although despite their excitement, the two could not figure out how to activate the voice mail.

    Mr. Tembe, 59, a classical music aficionado, also cooked, specializing in an Indian sweet called shrikhand, made with sour cream. It was popular with Mr. Meherji's children, who often came with their parents to visit Mr. Tembe and his wife, Coomi, in Piscataway, N.J. "They'd go for that," Mr. Meherji said.

    The two men used to meet every few weeks for lunch downtown near Mr. Tembe's office in the World Trade Center. They would sample the cuisine of different restaurants, sometimes Thai, Greek, Turkish or Indian. "New York was the right place for him," Mr. Meherji said. "We liked everything."

    Profile published in THE NEW YORK TIMES on November 15, 2001.
    Regarding this "man" some notes have to be made. I checked into his nephew Cyrus Meherji , mentioned in NYT. There exists exactly one person in the US carrying that name. I know his phone number, but I do not harass other people.

    Also I have seen references to his wife Coomi.

    And then, there is this strange document I found, which nearly prompted me to alert the FBI. (attached)

    What is remarkable is, that this name, Tembe, appears in this document, claiming to be a reminder for people who have not cashed in their checks and that are not reachable under their known address.

    I leave it to the reader to think about what is more likely, that the New York State Deferred Compensation Plan does not know that Mr Tembe died 8 years ago in the WTC, or that Mr Tembe managed to get on the Death List and still receives his pension until recently.
    Or that is all Smoke and Mirrors.

    Carsten
    Attached Files Attached Files
    The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".

  5. Default HUMINT on Tembe

    In this case certainly some HUMINT collected on location is in order.
    I do not trust the web, as soon as it gets into Smoke and Mirrors.

    So is there any daring investigative Journalist in the NY/NJ area willing to research some background on Tembe for the story of his life?

    Or any private eye, just quickly checking out some files from before 9/11? You may contact me, I might have a job for you.

    Or do I really have to call the FBI?

    Carsten
    The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".

  6. Default Land of the living dead?

    from http://www.lookupanyone.com/namelist...esh-tembe.html :


    Login | My AccountCustomer Service Return to home
    Tembe, Yesh

    NameAgeState Tembe, Yesh M67 Jamaica, NY Tembe, Yesh M Piscataway, NJ Tembe, Yesh M Fair Lawn, NJ Tembe, Yesh M Jamaica, NY

    Please note the age 67 in the first of the lines. This identity seems to have 4 locations. Maybe moving daily between them? Maybe there are 4 Yesh Tembe identities?

    I smell a rat. It stinks mightily.

    To wit:

    Yeshavant Moreshewar Tembe 59 New York State Department of Taxation and Finance Piscataway NJ United States World Trade Center 2002-09-09

    So dead at 59, alive 8 years later at 67.

    Not collecting his checks anymore.

    We are definitely in criminal territory here. We are also in explosive territory here. This was the first and only "dead" I checked. What are the odds, that it is the only one?
    Carsten
    The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".

  7. Default And then there is this

    http://www.bromox.de/Stimmen.htm

    This is from Neue Züricher Zeitung, Switzerland.

    Touching description. False.


    In all searches I never found any document from before 9/11.

    Yesh M. Tembe did not exist before 9/11, died on 9/11 and lived 8 years after 9/11.

    I am informing the president of the United States and the General Secretary of the UN. Help us God.
    The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Guyatt View Post
    Anti-Truthers and Troll-kind seem to avoid messing with Peter Dale Scott.
    You're forgetting Alexander Cockburn and Noam CIAomsky, DG.

    Cockburn attacks PDS:

    http://www.realhistoryarchives.com/media/cockburn.htm

    In early 1992, after the release of Oliver Stone's film JFK a media thundercloud erupted.

    After early attacks in mainstream media like the Chicago Tribune and Washington Post, many other alternative media of both the left and right began to run articles on the film including outlets like "The Village Voice", for which Alexander Cockburn used to write. To the surprise of many, when some of these supposed leftist media organs did chime in, they savaged the film as wildly as the mainstream press did. These outlets were, specifically, The Progressive, Z magazine, and The Nation. The writers were, respectively, the late Erwin Knoll, Noam Chomsky, and Alexander Cockburn. Chomsky then wrote a book, Rethinking Camelot to specifically attack one of the main theses of JFK, namely that Kennedy had intended to withdraw from Vietnam by 1965.

    But of the three, by far the most bitter and vicious polemics about the film were by Cockburn in three pieces in The Nation dated January 6/13, March 9, and May 18, 1992. The first piece was entitled "J.F.K. and JFK" in which he attacked not only the film, but the publishers of the book by Jim Garrison on which it was based, author Peter Dale Scott_who originated the Kennedy withdrawal thesis_and John Kennedy himself.

    The next two issues cited were Cockburn's response to several of scores of letters The Nation received in response to the original article. Cockburns's response to the first group of letters was less than detached and academic. He said that Scott and author John Newman ("JFK and Vietnam" and an advisor on the film) suffered from "fantasies" and that Scott's letter was basically "silly" and showed "evidence of a rather pathetic persecution mania"(P. 319).
    Chomsky dimisses Scott's work on NSAM 273 in a footnote to Rethinking Camelot.

  9. Default I informed President Obama via email.

    I just sent a mail to President Obama. I truly and sincerely hope that not any more people will have to suffer. But I could not stay quiet.

    Reaching the UN is more difficult, I am still trying to find the correct address or telephone number.

    I will not talk to any press or media. Maybe to Len Osanic, if he asks. This has been a long journey. It is just beginning.

    Truth. Healing. Justice. Peace.

    Please, do not let the bad guys get away. But, please, stay on the right path.

    It has been a pleasure to work with you. Our job is not yet complete.
    The truth is out there, and has ever been, for all with open eyes to see.

    Carsten Wiethoff
    The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".

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    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=5140090

    Originally Posted by sylvan8798
    May not be a Stundie, but certainly a "wtf?"

    Quote:
    Yesh M. Tembe did not exist before 9/11, died on 9/11 and lived 8 years after 9/11.



    Or a "WTFLOLBBQ!!11!!!!"



    Definitely some Stundipity there.
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    Yeah. Some fact checking will reveal immediately, on which side the Stunpidity lies.
    :eviltongue:

    Carsten
    The most relevant literature regarding what happened since September 11, 2001 is George Orwell's "1984".

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