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    [QUOTE=Paul Rigby;11190]
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Source to follow:

    Montana, the pusposeful mis-matching of similar names is how the 2000 presidential election was fixed in Florida. this method was used to exclude thousands of black voters. The fixers took names of some blacks and accidently/purposely confused the mames with other blacks with criminal records from other sates as a means to exclude legit black voters from voting. This methos served an additional purpose. It makes the exclusion of legit black voters look like a honest "accident" or a "computer glitch" thus providing plausible deniability to investigators. The entite Florida election fraud was outlined in Greg Palast's documentary, "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy".
    Source for the above:

    http://forum.911movement.org/index.p...pic=4569&st=60

    Once the basic principles of the 2000 electoral roll fraud are understood, one sees immediately how easy it was to replicate & transfer the process to the next great plot:

    http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174
    When future historians put 9/11 under the microscope, the great massacre will be seen to have taken place in the aftermath, in the form of the tens of thousands of New Yorkers (and others) exposed to the deadly toxic dust cocktail. Death toll so far appears to be 600 - and counting:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_299403.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack White View Post
    Let me say that I am not investigating these claims, BUT
    I WOULD NOT DISCOURAGE THOSE WHO ARE.

    I believe it would be a fruitful area for research, and encourage
    those who want to study it to do so. If just ONE fake victim is
    found, it might open many doors.

    I am particularly interested in the million dollar bribes to 911
    victims families NOT TO TALK. Why was the money offered?
    What were the families instructed not to say? Why was it thought
    that families of victims should be compensated? This was a
    strange and unprecedented GOVERNMENT response. Why?
    I think this should be investigated. This has little to do with
    faked names...or does it?

    Jack

    PS. Charles, I agree with your premise, but I think the Victims
    Compensation Fund is a separate issue and possible smoking gun.
    I think there were a FEW faked 'victims' including some [or all] of the 'hijackers', and some of those who made some of the more famous 'phone calls' the most likely. We have less information to work with than we do on Dallas...but slowly we make progress none the less. I just can't imagine 'no real victims', and think that that is either very foggy thinking or a campaign to discredit the 911-Truth community. I could even imagine a FEW who knew having themselves placed on the victim list to collect on their life insurance policy or in some way benefit from falsely being 'dead'....but, again, just a very few...

    I think Jack's point on the hush-money is very important!
    Last edited by Peter Lemkin; 09-26-2009 at 10:23 AM.
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    For those who have done more than dip their toes, like me, into this content, would you post further detail, links, sources, etc. for the quote "total imagery control of any terrain is a primary sector of modern warfare". I suspect it comes from one of the mind war or psy ops manuals I've seen. A Goggle search for the one noted ... www.mediacen.navy.mil/vi/comcam.htm ... seems only to return me to the source citing it, and there appears -- on fast review -- to be no one else on the Internet who is citing it unless they are citing the source citing it. The link itself appears to be a doorway into places I am, at the moment, not inclined [nor cleared] to peak. More info would be desired if anyone has it.
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Jewett View Post
    For those who have done more than dip their toes, like me, into this content, would you post further detail, links, sources, etc. for the quote "total imagery control of any terrain is a primary sector of modern warfare". I suspect it comes from one of the mind war or psy ops manuals I've seen. A Goggle search for the one noted ... www.mediacen.navy.mil/vi/comcam.htm ... seems only to return me to the source citing it, and there appears -- on fast review -- to be no one else on the Internet who is citing it unless they are citing the source citing it. The link itself appears to be a doorway into places I am, at the moment, not inclined [nor cleared] to peak. More info would be desired if anyone has it.
    These any use, Ed?

    http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....cfm?pubID=241

    http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vp01.c...r=66&paper=493

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    Thanks, Paul. Will check them out. :turtle: (Please send more time and a coupon to the nearest speed reading and deep comprehension class. )
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Rigby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Jewett View Post
    For those who have done more than dip their toes, like me, into this content, would you post further detail, links, sources, etc. for the quote "total imagery control of any terrain is a primary sector of modern warfare". I suspect it comes from one of the mind war or psy ops manuals I've seen. A Goggle search for the one noted ... www.mediacen.navy.mil/vi/comcam.htm ... seems only to return me to the source citing it, and there appears -- on fast review -- to be no one else on the Internet who is citing it unless they are citing the source citing it. The link itself appears to be a doorway into places I am, at the moment, not inclined [nor cleared] to peak. More info would be desired if anyone has it.
    These any use, Ed?

    http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute....cfm?pubID=241

    http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vp01.c...r=66&paper=493


    Paul, a rapid first scan of both of those papers did not reveal the quote.

    The idea of 'total imagery control' is wholly consistent with the articles and modes of thought they represent, but the quote is still absent and its source clouded.

    At any rate, I'd heard of the first paper and even previously read secondary and tertiary references to it, but to read it now in its entirety is chilling,
    especially with regard to "psychotechnology" etc. There is this still-emerging picture that the deep state and security state leadership of the USA see the need to prepare itself against its people. Of course, we see that already historically and even last week; will it show itself again in New York City at the 9/11 events there?
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    Default Propaganda 9/11 by Simon Shack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9VnZ-BMR3s

    A wonderful piece of research - the evacuated hotel repopulated some time after 9/11 by, among others, "an aspiring actress." Guess that's just another 9/11 dream come true.

    Interesting to note how flawed - or merely careless - the perps' collective memory is.

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    Is there someone here who is deeply familiar with the technique, process, phenomenon and 'management' of Alternate Reality Games?
    I am not, only recently aware of them, but that is now a thought/consideration given what I think I see in all of this.
    It is consistent with that famous quote from Susskind's book and other things we know.
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Jewett View Post
    Is there someone here who is deeply familiar with the technique, process, phenomenon and 'management' of Alternate Reality Games?
    I am not, only recently aware of them, but that is now a thought/consideration given what I think I see in all of this.
    It is consistent with that famous quote from Susskind's book and other things we know.
    Feel free to keep thinking aloud, Ed, I'm interested to read where it leads.

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    It's an open question for everyone, Paul.

    What little I know that leads to further insight and questioning has already been posted here:

    http://z7.invisionfree.com/E_Pluribu...showtopic=8206

    And given what we know about on-line mindwar & psyops (see this collection: http://z7.invisionfree.com/E_Pluribu...?showforum=160 ), and what little we know about computer software and how it has been used [reference the NSA, Echelon, PROmis, what I have posted in my blog about the IT applications of the OODA loop, some of the recent banking/investment stuff, etc.], it certainly suggests that there is a very, very deep puppet-master.

    It also suggests that we all look for the electrical outlet the thing is plugged into and make it sing "Daisy, Daisy...".
    Last edited by Ed Jewett; 10-20-2009 at 10:07 PM. Reason: change typo 7 for &
    "Where is the intersection between the world's deep hunger and your deep gladness?"

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