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    I hate to be the killjoy here but I'm not convinced the strap seen in the backyard photo isn't different from the obvious leather strap seen on the rifle being taken out of the Depository.

    If you look at the backyard photo strap it looks like it could be an entirely different cloth strap. I'm not sure that the cloth strap doesn't have a ring connector that is hooked into the side-mount and hanging down appearing like a bottom-mount. Of course, I'm not entirely sure but the ring-attachment strap could explain the appearance of what looks like a bottom-mount on the side-mount rifle.


    Edit: I came back to amend this because on further review there's something not right about that mount. Even if my theory were correct, and even with a different strap and ring, the side-mount doesn't appear to go low enough to look like a bottom-mount. So my message to Gil would be stick with your premise. I could be right but I would put the possibility in the lower percentages.

    The mount in the backyard photo looks different from that of the Klein's catalogue bottom-mount rifle. There's definitely a connector ring on the strap shown in the backyard photo.

    We need to see the Carcano in evidence and look at its strap where it connects to the mount.
    Last edited by Albert Doyle; 11-28-2010 at 04:37 AM.

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    Gil,


    Check out the barrel sight on the 3 Carcanos juxtaposed in your video. I believe if you look closely the 36 inch bottom-mounted Carcano had a slightly narrower and higher barrel sight. Now look at the 40 inch Carcano in the comparison shot. It has a slightly more stout, wider and lower barrel sight.


    I think you're in. I think this is hard evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Doyle View Post
    I hate to be the killjoy here but I'm not convinced the strap seen in the backyard photo isn't different from the obvious leather strap seen on the rifle being taken out of the Depository.

    If you look at the backyard photo strap it looks like it could be an entirely different cloth strap. I'm not sure that the cloth strap doesn't have a ring connector that is hooked into the side-mount and hanging down appearing like a bottom-mount. Of course, I'm not entirely sure but the ring-attachment strap could explain the appearance of what looks like a bottom-mount on the side-mount rifle.


    Edit: I came back to amend this because on further review there's something not right about that mount. Even if my theory were correct, and even with a different strap and ring, the side-mount doesn't appear to go low enough to look like a bottom-mount. So my message to Gil would be stick with your premise. I could be right but I would put the possibility in the lower percentages.

    The mount in the backyard photo looks different from that of the Klein's catalogue bottom-mount rifle. There's definitely a connector ring on the strap shown in the backyard photo.

    We need to see the Carcano in evidence and look at its strap where it connects to the mount.
    There were at least THREE [perhaps FOUR] rifles found in the TSBD - the first all confirmed as a Mauser...the whole 'trail' of a M-C is a false one, and the BYP are fake composits made by intel persons to set up Oswald. You are troubling youself over a non-issue, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lemkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Doyle View Post
    I hate to be the killjoy here but I'm not convinced the strap seen in the backyard photo isn't different from the obvious leather strap seen on the rifle being taken out of the Depository.

    If you look at the backyard photo strap it looks like it could be an entirely different cloth strap. I'm not sure that the cloth strap doesn't have a ring connector that is hooked into the side-mount and hanging down appearing like a bottom-mount. Of course, I'm not entirely sure but the ring-attachment strap could explain the appearance of what looks like a bottom-mount on the side-mount rifle.


    Edit: I came back to amend this because on further review there's something not right about that mount. Even if my theory were correct, and even with a different strap and ring, the side-mount doesn't appear to go low enough to look like a bottom-mount. So my message to Gil would be stick with your premise. I could be right but I would put the possibility in the lower percentages.

    The mount in the backyard photo looks different from that of the Klein's catalogue bottom-mount rifle. There's definitely a connector ring on the strap shown in the backyard photo.

    We need to see the Carcano in evidence and look at its strap where it connects to the mount.
    There were at least THREE [perhaps FOUR] rifles found in the TSBD - the first all confirmed as a Mauser...the whole 'trail' of a M-C is a false one, and the BYP are fake composits made by intel persons to set up Oswald. You are troubling youself over a non-issue, IMHO.
    And Peter, there were also, at least 2 rifles in Ray Truly's TSBD office 48 hours prior to the assassination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Lemkin View Post
    There were at least THREE [perhaps FOUR] rifles found in the TSBD - the first all confirmed as a Mauser...the whole 'trail' of a M-C is a false one, and the BYP are fake composits made by intel persons to set up Oswald. You are troubling youself over a non-issue, IMHO.

    So you are saying Marina was lying about the garage rifle at the Paines? (Why?)

    Whether or not what you say is true my points still stand. And I think the barrel sights are even more confirmation of what Gil is showing.

    The more I look at the sling mount in Gil's video the more it looks like a bottom-mount. I wish someone would find a bottom-mount Carcano and pose it in a similar picture for comparison to see how close it would come to the backyard photo. The important thing is the 36 inch rifle was the model that came with the bottom-mount.

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    fwtaw , for comparisons...b
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    fycomparisons..magda the last photo i have copied it twice, i cannot find where or how to delete the extra, DUH.could you please..many thanks...b
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    Last edited by Bernice Moore; 11-30-2010 at 01:19 AM.

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    the slings, most of what i have posted have come through jack white's studies down through the years, that i have snaggled...thanks...b
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  10. Default JFK killed by unarmed man

    The rifle Oswald never ordered, received, stored, posed with, nor fired is also not that in the extant archival record.


    Other anomalies may include different lengths, weights, serial numbers, slings, sling mounts, front sights, mystic palm prints, a third round in a fourth dimension, impossible ballistics and negative paraffin results for the cheeky assassin.


    Such peripheral arcana to the contrary notwithstanding, the Commission found no credible evidence anyone else fired any shots from any other location.


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