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Thread: The Power of the Paedos - another high profile case hits the 'never happened' wall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Guyatt View Post
    A really interesting report. For me, it suggests the US equivalent of the British VIP paedo scandal, and I bet my socks that there is so much more hidden in the British affair (similar to the American one here) that this explains why every police inquiry and judicial inquiry for decades has been a cover-up. In addition to drugs, drug money laundering, child sex exploitation, blackmail, forced spying/betrayal etc., we can also add murder. In other words our powerful elect and others are so dirty and corrupt that the prevailing governing system would collapse were it all to come to the public's attention.

    This has been my hypothesis for years anyway and it now looks as though the US has the same dirty song & dance going.

    A real shocker would be: perhaps it's NATO wide?
    That's an impressive video from Corbett. Legwork clearly done by Sybel Edmonds & Co who also appears to have had good advice on her vocal presentation and worked hard on it. I recall finding her past interviews very difficult to follow because of a combination of accent, fast speech and high-pitched shrill voice. This is different and I like it.

    As for the manner of official dirt-digging, the behaviour of its targets and its ultimate effects, exposed so effectively in the video; apart from the advancing technical capabilities that are rendering the actual surveillance near unbiquitous, I reckon it is nothing new. In fact I fear it has become deeply entrenched in the establishment power centres and structures of the West - Post-WWII at least and arguably much earlier. It is how Anglo-US-Nato (aka 'the International Community') power works.

    Tom Watson is currently its highest profile target here in the UK and, given the way things are progressing, I'd say the prospect of excising its evils are practically zero.

    As for it being "Nato-wide" - George Robinson, Thomas Hamilton, Dunblane - Personally, I'd be surprised if it weren't
    Peter Presland

    ".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
    Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'
    "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
    Claud Cockburn


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Presland View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by David Guyatt View Post
    A really interesting report. For me, it suggests the US equivalent of the British VIP paedo scandal, and I bet my socks that there is so much more hidden in the British affair (similar to the American one here) that this explains why every police inquiry and judicial inquiry for decades has been a cover-up. In addition to drugs, drug money laundering, child sex exploitation, blackmail, forced spying/betrayal etc., we can also add murder. In other words our powerful elect and others are so dirty and corrupt that the prevailing governing system would collapse were it all to come to the public's attention.

    This has been my hypothesis for years anyway and it now looks as though the US has the same dirty song & dance going.

    A real shocker would be: perhaps it's NATO wide?
    That's an impressive video from Corbett. Legwork clearly done by Sybel Edmonds & Co who also appears to have had good advice on her vocal presentation and worked hard on it. I recall finding her past interviews very difficult to follow because of a combination of accent, fast speech and high-pitched shrill voice. This is different and I like it.

    As for the manner of official dirt-digging, the behaviour of its targets and its ultimate effects, exposed so effectively in the video; apart from the advancing technical capabilities that are rendering the actual surveillance near unbiquitous, I reckon it is nothing new. In fact I fear it has become deeply entrenched in the establishment power centres and structures of the West - Post-WWII at least and arguably much earlier. It is how Anglo-US-Nato (aka 'the International Community') power works.

    Tom Watson is currently its highest profile target here in the UK and, given the way things are progressing, I'd say the prospect of excising its evils are practically zero.

    As for it being "Nato-wide" - George Robinson, Thomas Hamilton, Dunblane - Personally, I'd be surprised if it weren't
    We're more or less on the same page, Peter. For me this elucidated some of Sybel Edmond's own story re her FBI background that has never been made fully clear because, as I recall, of secrecy restrictions placed on her. This now places that in a clearer light.
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    James Corbett talking to Tim Kelly about the Hastert scandal:

    http://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/e...15_12_06-08_00
    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
    ― Leo Tolstoy,

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    Default Johnny Rotten talking about Saville in the 70's banned.

    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    This is the latest in an ongoing series of posts/articles which I have found quite interesting:

    https://auticulture.wordpress.com/20...-yorkshire-11/
    “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.”
    ― Leo Tolstoy,

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    Janner has died. Looks as though the political establishment managed to delay things until he died ---- the same story with Lewd Brittan.

    I remain convinced that the Whitehall paedophile story that has now been successfully suppressed contained within it a great deal more criminality than just horrendous sexual crimes against children, and that this is the real reason it had to be covered up.

    My best guess is that this is the British version of the story related by Sybil Edmonds at Boiling Frogs and in her book that we se partially manifesting in the law case of former House Speaker Denis Hastert, who is being prosecuted for paedophilia - but with no charges of his "deep" crimes. For more on the Hastert case from Sybil Edmonds go to her Probable Cause (you have to let the music - quite good really - run for just over 1:30 before you get to her podcast).

    From The Needle

    Paedophile Lord Janner Dies Aged 87


    Child abuser Lord Greville Janner of Braunstone has died only 9 months after requesting in writing that he continue to sit in the House of Lords. He had spent the last 25 years avoiding justice for the crimes he committed against young boys and has died just four months before a ‘trial of the facts’ which was set to conclusively demonstrate that Greville Janner was a sick child abusing bastard.
    Sources familiar with the ‘trial of the facts’ had told The Needle that about 100 witnesses were due to give evidence against Janner and that the evidence was overwhelming.
    Questions will now be asked about whether Leicestershire police and the CPS conspired to protect Janner by failing to prosecute him earlier and whether the delay as a consequence of the DPP Alison Saunders original decision not to prosecute Janner earlier this year allowed Janner to escape justice one last time.
    Greville Janner was scum. Those that protected him are scum, and those who are friends of his and wish to eulogise his passing are also scum.
    Only Janner’s victims deserve sympathy.
    Once again, the Establishment can breath a sigh of relief, knowing as they do so that the sick perverted crimes documented by the conclusive prosecution case against one of their own, will remain out of the press.
    Lord Janner, the former Labour peer ruled unfit to stand trial over child sexual abuse allegations, has died.
    He had been suffering from dementia and died peacefully at his home on Saturday aged 87, his family said.
    The peer had been accused of 22 counts of sex offences against boys – allegations his family denied.
    A “trial of the facts” set for April will no longer take place. A lawyer representing alleged victims said they had been denied justice.
    Liz Dux, who represents six alleged victims, said: “This is devastating news for my clients. They have waited so long to see this case come before the courts, to be denied justice at the final hurdle is deeply frustrating.”
    The Goddard inquiry, which is examining child sexual abuse claims, may now examine the allegations, the BBC’s Tom Symonds said.
    It had set aside the case while it was being dealt with in the courts
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    Default Inside Story - The Secret Life of a Paedophile - Peter Righton

    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    One of the most disappointing and frustrating things about the ongoing paedophile story is how the VIP ones have escaped scot-free. This alone reveals how powerful they really are. Instead, older TV and radio stars and dead (or soon to be dead) were targeted which was for me a simple deflection of the public mind from the VIPs.

    And so the title of this thread which I wrote all those years ago remains as true today as it did then.

    That's real power.
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    Yes, very prescient of you David. It seems so obvious doesn't it? They wait until they are safely dead or soon to be before there is any half hearted action. We see also the media cover up because of their own separate corruption that they find useful to keep and use as needed. I still live in hope that there will be one time which cut's through the Gordian knot of lies and cover ups and exposes it all.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    The Met Police Professional Standards Detectives have combined a series of investigations into decades of alleged cover-ups and failure to investigate child sex abuse by VIPs into one umbrella operation called Operation Winter Key. It remains to be seen if any thing will come of it and may later come to be called :

    Operation Burn and Shred


    Operation We Found No Evidence of Systematic Corruption


    Operation It was a Silly Conspiracy Theory


    Operation You Thought We Were Seriously Going to Investigate Our Own?


    Operation Without Fear Or Favour HaHaHaHaHaHa
    Revealed: huge probe into ‘cover-ups’ over VIP paedophiles

    ‘Operation Winter Key’ brings together claims of old police cases dropped ‘corruptly’

    By Tim Wood | 21 April 2016

    Pic: KF Catles

    Cold cases: overarching investigation



    People are coming forward to say that they told the police about this, but they did nothing about it.


    Source close to ‘Operation Winter Key’


    Detectives have combined a series of investigations into alleged cover-ups of child sex abuse by VIPs into one umbrella operation.

    Exaro can reveal that allegations about how Scotland Yard “corruptly” dropped old cases on claims against celebrities such as Sir Jimmy Savile, the paedophile and BBC star, politicians and other prominent people are being investigated under ‘Operation Winter Key’.
    Sources familiar with the operation say that it covers all claims of “impropriety” by officers of the Metropolitan Police Service over complaints of sexual abuse up to 2012.

    One source told Exaro: “It is being treated very seriously.”
    Detectives from the Met’s directorate of professional standards (PSD) are working on the expanding operation, which is being overseen by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).
    As Exaro revealed in January, the IPCC is directly investigating similar allegations against a senior Met detective in more recent years.
    A source close to the operation said: “The reason for the cut-off at 2012 is that it would be unethical for PSD officers to look at other officers still in the Met. It is too sensitive for everyone at the moment for these issues to be left unresolved.”
    A second source said: “Every day, people are reporting abuse that happened to them in the past and saying that they told the police at the time, or their social worker, nurse, or teacher. Things were very different back in the day. It is not perfect now. But the Met is trying to deal with this.”
    “People are coming forward to say that they told the police about this, but they did nothing about it, or the officers dealing with it were suddenly told to stop investigating this.”
    Operation Winter Key is investigating whether, as some former officers allege, orders to close cases prematurely came from senior management. It is taking evidence from several current and former officers.
    One element of the operation is investigating complaints that police failed to treat allegations specifically against Savile properly.
    The second source added: “Forces all round the country are carrying out similar investigations, seeing whether there is any evidence of misconduct at a much higher level.”
    When the Met last month announced the closure of ‘Operation Midland’, the investigation into allegations of child sex abuse and the murder of three boys by members of the Westminster paedophile network, it said that the PSD was continuing to look into historical allegations from former officers about concerns over sexual abuse that involved “political figures” and were not properly examined. The IPCC was managing 32 such investigations.
    A spokesman for the Met said that all its investigations into allegations of child sex abuse by prominent people, liaising with the overarching inquiry into child sex abuse, as well as “impropriety by officers”, have been brought together under Operation Winter Key. It has a 90-strong team.
    The investigations into shelved operations were launched after Exaro revealed in December 2014 how several former police officers admitted in a private online forum that paedophile cases by Scotland Yard were closed down as they started to expose VIPs.
    Exaro published incendiary posts from the closed online forum for serving and former officers.
    A week later, Exaro revealed that former police officers who made the revealing postings had decided to submit a dossier of statements to the Met’s commissioner, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe.
    And there were yet more revealing posts, including recollections of one surveillance operation on paedophiles that was shelved after it tracked police officers, lawyers and even a magistrate.
    Three months later, the IPCC announced an initial wave of investigations into “allegations of corruption in the Metropolitan Police Service in relation to child sex offences dating from the 1970’s to the 2000’s.”
    The IPCC said in a statement that all the cases concerned allegations of “suppressing evidence, hindering or halting investigations, and covering up the offences because of the involvement of MPs and police officers.”
    It also announced a similar investigation in relation to Greater Manchester Police and the late Sir Cyril Smith, the former Liberal MP who died in 2010.
    And last September, the IPCC announced a further tranche of similar investigations. The police appealed for anyone with any relevant information about such historical cases to come forward.
    If you have information that might help our investigation, please contact us. Keep re-visiting Exaro for more on this investigation.
    LIST OF PREVIOUS RELEVANT PIECES: Child sex abuse, ‘Fernbridge’ and ‘Fairbank’: Exaro story thread
    http://www.exaronews.com/articles/58...ip-paedophiles
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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