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    pg. 77

    In Isis/Osiris veneration, we can see the beginnings of the ritual trappings of the Mystery Religions that were to follow. One reason that the Greek and Roman Mystery Religions are mysterious is that little is known of what actually took place in their rites, celebrated primarily at night and in caves. We do know that Mystery Religions were the source of many of the practices that were taken up by later secret societies including the Freemasons, and that they partook--practices varying somewhat from one Mystery group to the next--of secret ritual initiation involving dramatizations of the lives of the gods, the imbibing of psychedelic drugs such as magic mushrooms, sex orgies (with an emphasis on homosexuality), and at least in some instances, human sacrifice. The symbology of "light" pervades the Mystery Religions, adepts having been said to "have seen the light," "had their eyes opened," and so forth, all very appropriate to celebrants who enacted their rites in the dead of night in caves. Light = Illumination = Illuminati.

    From the Mystery Religions, which were extremely influential upon the tenets of Christianity, came the philosophies of the Gnostics, composed of a number of secretive European sects, the most prominent perhaps being the highly secretive, perhaps even fictional, Priory of Sion.

    Again, we know very little of what the actual practices of the early Gnostics were, but we do know that the Sun God/Mother Goddess orientation had in certain cases taken on a more philosophical bent, dealing with the eternal cosmic war between darkness and light. Again, the motif of "illumination" is represented. A recent translation of a document of the Cathars, perhaps the most prominent of the Gnostic groups, suggests that one of their secrets was that they were a straightforward Isis cult.

    The Jewish/Gnostic mystical practice of the Qabalah, whose origin may have been about the time of Jesus or shortly after, was a primary influence on a number of secret society tributaries, including the Rosicrucians and the Knights Templar. Qabalism was also the singular greatest philosophical influence on the Freemasons, which in the mid-1700s evolved a return to an overt Sun God/Mother Goddess mythology, along with an emphasis in their practices on the importance of the star Sirius. Freemasonry, aside from being an essentially Gnostic religion, has comprised since its inception a vastly important influence in world politics and in world intelligence agencies, and may be the most active and far-reaching of the Illuminati fronts at the present time.

    Freemasonry and the Rothschilds international banking group (the Rothschilds being from the beginning of their dynasty Freemasons) were the main influence on diamond magnate and Freemason Cecil Rhodes' Round Table secret society, formed around the turn of this century. Rhodes was the single most important Freemasonic spearhead into world political control. Currently we may note the Trilateral Commission (with their symbolic "666" triangular emblem and orientation), the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Bilderberger Society as being among the most influential organization on this planet; these sprung from the Round Table group.

    While I am limited in space in this thumbnail sketch, it is very possible to trace the twistings and turnings of the Illuminist philosophy until we encounter the secret Freemasonic rituals of the elitist leaders of today, men like George Bush of the Skull and Bones German Illuminati offshoot, Henry Kissinger and Alexander Haig, alleged to be members of the Freemasonic P-2 group, and in all probability the (Cecil) Rhodes scholar, Trilateralist, and saxophone player from Little Rock, Arkansas, the highly symbolic Masonic location where the arch-Mason Albert Pike formulated his schemes.
    Maybe Carpocrates was right about the pornography being excised from Secret Mark, even if he was taking a bit of a swipe at Moses with his moniker. Minerva was the owl, though, and Moloch something else, I guess. The Bohemian Club got it wrong or intentionally mixed it up.

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    Minerva was the owl, though, and Moloch something else, I guess. The Bohemian Club got it wrong or intentionally mixed it up.
    Oddly enough Helen, I looked at this a couple of months ago when I was looking into the Grove - because I also had always associated the owl symbolism with wisdom etc.

    I think confusion arises because symbols often, if not usually have both a negative and a positive aspect to them. Arthur's sword can be used to "hack or to heal" as John Boorman wrote for utterance by the Merlin his film Excalibur.

    The owl symbol associated with Moloch seems to me to symbolize the dark/negative aspect, whereas the "wisdom" symbolism of the owl associated with Minerva has a more positive rhythm, I think.

    The whole Rhodes thing has been a sort of splinter in my side for decades and I do find it interesting what Keith had to say about it. For some while now I have concluded that Freemasonry has a similar structure to it that Rhodes had adopted for his secret society, namely three levels or concentric circles of power. The outer court of the multitude, a middle court of selected individuals who may be forgiven for thinking that they are really in-the-loop and finally the inner court of half a dozen or so real movers and shakers. I know (and have known many Freemasons) and they are all good, honest people, no different from you or me. But this does not seems to tally with some of the things that can be attributed to Masonry. Thus I have concluded that there is a filtering system to suck likely masons out of the outer court and into the middle court for more nefarious purposes.
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    Well sure, symbols are fluid and can mean whatever people want them to mean, and the owl was a symbol of evil or Satan in the Middle Ages in Europe, I think Bosch uses them that way in his paintings as well. Have not looked into it but heard the Bohemians called their owl Moloch, while Moloch in the Bible is the deity to whom some group sacrificed their children. I don't remember an owl involved, but have no real idea.

    Cecil Rhodes is a very interesting figure but I haven't done the research needed to be able to say anything about him. I always associate him with the Smithsonian, the Rhodes scholarships, Rhodesia, the attempt to retake the American colonies for the crown and so on. Wasn't he gay as well, and didn't he start the roudtable groups in the US? In Uri Andrija Puharich tells the story of how the senator from Washington state Henry "Scoop" Jackson presented him a liberty silver dollar (or half dollar?) as a memento to mark their creation of Puharich's Round Table research organization. The coin eventually enters hyperspace in the famous legerdemaine the Men In Black like to practice and ends up in Puharich's hotel in Israel or somewhere odd. Unrelated except for the Round Table reference. Arthurian I suppose.

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    Yep, he was gay and started the Roundtable. BUt whether he was personally involved in the US Roundtable I don't know.

    Quigley's two important book, Tragedy & Hope, and The Anglo-American Establishment, are probably the best available source of inside information on Rhodes and the Rhodes "Group" which is a sister of the Skull & Bones and also the German Illuminati. Quigley personally agreed with the secret aims of the Group and, because of his serious academic clout and close association with them was given free access to all their confidential and secret archives - thus the above books. But in Tragedy & Hope he published far more than he should've done and for that error was sent to purgatory for the rest of his days. Never again would a mainstream publisher touch his work; he was effectively destroyed and the plates of T & G were secretly ruined by his own publisher after the first print run - a mere couple of thousand copies - and almost all of these were bought by agents of the Group and disappeared from libraries etc.

    Quigley later said that this was all due to just 15 pages of the book that revealed information about the Group that should not have been revealed.
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    An anonymous book appeared in a limited run and was later digitized and put on the internet, that goes into some detail on the relationship between Lovecraft's fictional Old Ones and their correspondences with the Dukes of Edom, da'ath, etc. "Blind idiot god" is straight out of gnosticism, Ialdaboath; Lovecraft plays with the concept. It mentions the witches' "Man in Black" as well, who appears in Lovecraft's Dreams in the Witch-House. It's all an interesting coincidence, if nothing more, that Lovecraft stumbled onto existing traditions possibly unknowingly. He also had several references to the Pillars of Irem, which Idries Shah somewhere talks about as a real Islamic tradition. I guess that's why Robert Anton Wilson called him the "world's most dangerous man" or something like that in the Illuminatus! trilogy.

    I hadn't realied T&G was suppressed. Now I'll have to finally read it!

    Isn't it true Rhodes found the Smithsonian Institution? I remember reading that, but none of the people involved in exposing the Roundtable seem to latch onto the fact, or at least I haven't noticed. I believe Jim Keith mentions some military vans involved in abductions in Montana with "Smithsonian Institute" written on their sides. More coincidence?
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    I bought a copy of Tragedy & Hope online not that long ago. I guess the shadow elite gave up suppressing it. They must have realised that hardly anyone in the world would have the strength of purpose to actually read it. I know I haven't. I don't suppose Quigley said which the offending fifteen pages were so I could just read the naughty bits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Pryce View Post
    I bought a copy of Tragedy & Hope online not that long ago. I guess the shadow elite gave up suppressing it. They must have realised that hardly anyone in the world would have the strength of purpose to actually read it. I know I haven't. I don't suppose Quigley said which the offending fifteen pages were so I could just read the naughty bits?
    Malcolm - thank you very much for that.

    David - any clues as to the offending 15 pages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Reyes View Post
    Isn't it true Rhodes found the Smithsonian Institution? I remember reading that, but none of the people involved in exposing the Roundtable seem to latch onto the fact, or at least I haven't noticed. I believe Jim Keith mentions some military vans involved in abductions in Montana with "Smithsonian Institute" written on their sides. More coincidence?
    The Smithsonian was founded orginally by a grant from a well-connected Brit called.... rather predictably... Smithson. Wiki entry here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Smithson

    There have long been allegations that many of the giant skeletons found in North and South American burial mounds ended up buried in the basements of the Smithsonian...
    "It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
    "Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
    "They are in Love. Fuck the War."

    Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

    "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Reyes View Post

    I hadn't realied T&G was suppressed. Now I'll have to finally read it!
    At a little over 1200 pages, be careful you don't suffer tendon strain lifting the damn thing. :laugh: Personally speaking I found the book quite interesting from the historical perspective.

    Thanks for the .pdf's which I've saved for a rainy day.

    Which will probably be soon since Summer is due anytime now, now that Winter has kidnapped the Spring.

    Malcolm, I think a copy was somehow obtained and printed by one of the flourishing band of small, privately owned publishers who specialize in bringing back from death important books.

    I think the naughty bits are fairly early on in the tomb. My copy is now in storage or I'd tell you which the pages are. But check the index and just follow anything that has Rhodes and Milner's name in it.

    I seem to recall the really important thing was about the 1930's merchant bankers and how they organized the BIS as a private club for bankers to take control of the economies in all major nations with the aim of making the political process subject to their wishes and needs. I'm paraphrasing naturally, but if this sounds familiar I suppose it's because it is...
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    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
    Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14

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    David, thanks for that. I'll definitely have to make the effort to read it. Just as soon as I've found a replacement door stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Klimkowski View Post

    The Smithsonian was founded orginally by a grant from a well-connected Brit called.... rather predictably... Smithson. Wiki entry here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Smithson

    There have long been allegations that many of the giant skeletons found in North and South American burial mounds ended up buried in the basements of the Smithsonian...
    Hmm, I must've dreamt that one up once upon a time. Thanks for setting me straight.

    Big books don't scare me, but I prefer when they're on paper, because reading too long on the screen makes my neck sore. I found multiple copies of T&H for free on the internet. It looks like rainy days ahead here as well, so might get to it.

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