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    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/456.html

    I've been watching the development of this guy's business for many years now wondering when it would get lift off. Most warehouse fork lifts run on compressed air engines so I assume it is something along the same lines. Why hasn't this been taken up by a) the media b) car manufacturing c) investors or government? Most consumers don't know about it. Given the chance of running an urban vehicle for $2 tank or filling up for $120 I know what I would choose. I know I would also choose the one that is environmentally better. This type of vehicle has been available for many years as have electric vehicles. Why do we even permit vehicles that emit pollution when there are alternatives?
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/456.html

    Why do we even permit vehicles that emit pollution when there are alternatives?
    As one answer to your question see the very good film available on internet called Who Killed The Electric Car.

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    The film Who Killed the Electric Car can be viewed HERE.
    The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
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    We have that in the 'Good for Business Bad for People' play list in our YouTube channel. I highly recommend it.
    "I think it would be a good idea." Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization.

    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
    Karl Marx.

    "Well, he would, wouldn't he?" Mandy Rice-Davies, 1963, replied Ms Rice Davies when the prosecuting counsel pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her.

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    Another good film about the 'ethically challenged' is the film about Enron entitled 'The Smartest Guys In The Room" - another must see.

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    When I viewed "Who Killed the Electric Car",they mentioned that it was the invention of the special battery that really made the electric vehicle viable.This was a private inventor not GM that had the patent.Now,as I was watching "Democracy Now" about a week ago,during an interview with(I forget),their was a quip that Exxon-Mobil had bought up the battery patent back when GM decided to scrap the vehicle.Makes me wonder if the batteries that we use today are of the same design,or are something different.:confused:

    Keith
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    Buckminster Fuller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Millea View Post
    When I viewed "Who Killed the Electric Car",they mentioned that it was the invention of the special battery that really made the electric vehicle viable.This was a private inventor not GM that had the patent.Now,as I was watching "Democracy Now" about a week ago,during an interview with(I forget),their was a quip that Exxon-Mobil had bought up the battery patent back when GM decided to scrap the vehicle.Makes me wonder if the batteries that we use today are of the same design,or are something different.:confused:

    Keith
    I'm not sure that Exxon bought the patent, but if they did they bought it to 'bury it'. Much the way GM purchased the lightrail transit system in L.A. after the War and then tore it up and melted it down - so persons in L.A. would have to purchase their cars. I could cite many other examples of big corporations buying-up patents and 'things' in order to destroy them or make them only for their benefit. The batteries that man in the film designed for the EV-1 were VERY special and unique - nothing like the Neaderthal Pb batteries used in cars today!....
    Last edited by Peter Lemkin; 12-06-2008 at 09:32 AM.

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    I may have confused companies.Here is a link that explains the patents path.


    http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ev1electriccar.html

    In 1994, General Motors acquired a controlling interest in Ovonics's battery development and manufacturing, including patents controlling the manufacturing of large nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries. In 2001, Texaco purchased GM's share in GM Ovonics. A few months later, Chevron acquired Texaco. In 2003, Texaco Ovonics Battery Systems was restructured into Cobasys, a 50/50 joint venture between Chevron and Energy Conversion Devices (ECD) Ovonics.[11] Chevron's influence over Cobasys extends beyond a strict 50/50 joint venture.
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

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    That same web page has much good info on alternative energy.Here is more on compressed air.



    http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/compressedair.htm

    Keith
    "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
    Buckminster Fuller

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    An even better idea for many locations [not rainy Europe just now...]
    solar powered cars already exist....just don't expect anyone of the major car companies to really try to market and mass-produce them; they are in bed with the oil companies. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...earch&aq=f&oq=

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