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  1. Default Naval Intelligence, MKUltra and the Hippie Movement

    This is the link to part one of a series that will blow you away. This shows there is no area or a people that is not being used by the 'secret government' in mind control. These military intelligence officers used their own children and you will see from this series that the 60's was more than just a turning point, it was the beginning of the end for this nation. After you read this first part, hit the home button and continue with the series Inside the LC. I promise you won't be disappointed. There are many interesting articles on that site including those regarding Manson and his followers.

    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html

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    Kate - thanks for posting this link.

    There is a lot of interesting information (some of it hearsay, some seemingly factual) in these pieces.

    The military/naval intelligence background of many of the "hippie" artists continues to be provocative.

    Tim Leary and the Yankees beseeching American youth to:

    Turn on, tune in... to sex and drugs and rock and roll...

    And drop out... of the anti-war movement...

    Hmmmm.. :canabis:

    Amongst the many nuggets in the pieces, the following has huge - yes genuinely huge - potential implications:

    What would become known as Lookout Mountain Laboratory was originally envisioned as an air defense center. Built in 1941 and nestled in two-and-a-half secluded acres off what is now Wonderland Park Avenue, the installation was hidden from view and surrounded by an electrified fence. By 1947, the facility featured a fully operational movie studio. In fact, it is claimed that it was perhaps the world’s only completely self-contained movie studio. With 100,000 square feet of floor space, the covert studio included sound stages, screening rooms, film processing labs, editing facilities, an animation department, and seventeen climate-controlled film vaults. It also had underground parking, a helicopter pad and a bomb shelter.

    Over its lifetime, the studio produced some 19,000 classified motion pictures – more than all the Hollywood studios combined (which I guess makes Laurel Canyon the real ‘motion picture capital of the world’). Officially, the facility was run by the U.S. Air Force and did nothing more nefarious than process AEC footage of atomic and nuclear bomb tests. The studio, however, was clearly equipped to do far more than just process film. There are indications that Lookout Mountain Laboratory had an advanced research and development department that was on the cutting edge of new film technologies. Such technological advances as 3-D effects were apparently first developed at the Laurel Canyon site. And Hollywood luminaries like John Ford, Jimmy Stewart, Howard Hawks, Ronald Reagan, Bing Crosby, Walt Disney and Marilyn Monroe were given clearance to work at the facility on undisclosed projects. There is no indication that any of them ever spoke of their work at the clandestine studio.

    The facility retained as many as 250 producers, directors, technicians, editors, animators, etc., both civilian and military, all with top security clearances – and all reporting to work in a secluded corner of Laurel Canyon. Accounts vary as to when the facility ceased operations. Some claim it was in 1969, while others say the installation remained in operation longer. In any event, by all accounts the secret bunker had been up and running for more than twenty years before Laurel Canyon’s rebellious teen years, and it remained operational for the most turbulent of those years.

    The existence of the facility remained unknown to the general public until the early 1990s, though it had long been rumored that the CIA operated a secret movie studio somewhere in or near Hollywood. Filmmaker Peter Kuran was the first to learn of its existence, through classified documents he obtained while researching his 1995 documentary, “Trinity and Beyond.” And yet even today, some 15 years after its public disclosure, one would have trouble finding even a single mention of this secret military/intelligence facility anywhere in the ‘conspiracy’ literature.
    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr96.html

    At the url below, the photos and information about a 1933-45 American Nazi compound in Kalifornia, very close to where Their creature Charlie Manson was promulgating his race war Helter Skelter apocalyptic fantasies, is fascinating.

    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr102.html
    Last edited by Jan Klimkowski; 01-29-2009 at 10:34 PM.
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    "They are in Love. Fuck the War."

    Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

    "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
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    Thanks Jan. There is certainly some amount of hearsay but overall, I am finding this series fancinating. It is quite long but chocked full of info. The writings on Manson actually made the hair on my neck stand out. This guy also wrote Programmed to Kill and I think you can read it online. Also, do a google on 'Something about Henry' regarding Henry Lucas, on of the worst serial killers who was the only person ever pardoned from death row by Bush!! He then went out for a real killing spree. I made the mistake of reading that while I was alone in the house and I won't be doing that again. lol

    Oh, here is the link to 'Henry'. His partner (Ottis Toole) was the one who kidnapped, killed and beheaded the 6 year old son of America's Most Wanted host John Walsh. This story has some interesting tidbits too. I am new and I hope I am posting items in the appropriate areas.

    http://www.whale.to/b/henry.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Story View Post
    This is the link to part one of a series that will blow you away. This shows there is no area or a people that is not being used by the 'secret government' in mind control. These military intelligence officers used their own children and you will see from this series that the 60's was more than just a turning point, it was the beginning of the end for this nation. After you read this first part, hit the home button and continue with the series Inside the LC. I promise you won't be disappointed. There are many interesting articles on that site including those regarding Manson and his followers.

    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html
    Well this is quite the little hit piece, full of snide innuendo in lieu of facts and research.

    And it targets some of the most unlikely people, like Frank Zappa who, shortly before his (IMO suspicious) death from cancer was an articulate and outspoken opponent of censorship in the record industry.

    Davesweb should back up their insinuations with evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myra Bronstein View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Story View Post
    This is the link to part one of a series that will blow you away. This shows there is no area or a people that is not being used by the 'secret government' in mind control. These military intelligence officers used their own children and you will see from this series that the 60's was more than just a turning point, it was the beginning of the end for this nation. After you read this first part, hit the home button and continue with the series Inside the LC. I promise you won't be disappointed. There are many interesting articles on that site including those regarding Manson and his followers.

    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html
    Well this is quite the little hit piece, full of snide innuendo in lieu of facts and research.

    And it targets some of the most unlikely people, like Frank Zappa who, shortly before his (IMO suspicious) death from cancer was an articulate and outspoken opponent of censorship in the record industry.

    Davesweb should back up their insinuations with evidence.
    Snide innuendo? Well, I suppose you would know.

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    Myra Bronstein Guest

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    [quote=Kate Story;3430][quote=Myra Bronstein;3428]
    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Story View Post
    This is the link to part one of a series that will blow you away. This shows there is no area or a people that is not being used by the 'secret government' in mind control. These military intelligence officers used their own children and you will see from this series that the 60's was more than just a turning point, it was the beginning of the end for this nation. After you read this first part, hit the home button and continue with the series Inside the LC. I promise you won't be disappointed. There are many interesting articles on that site including those regarding Manson and his followers.

    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html
    Well this is quite the little hit piece, full of snide innuendo in lieu of facts and research.

    And it targets some of the most unlikely people, like Frank Zappa who, shortly before his (IMO suspicious) death from cancer was an articulate and outspoken opponent of censorship in the record industry.

    Davesweb should back up their insinuations with evidence.



    Actually, Kate, I'm not using innuendo at all in regards to the davesweb column. I'm flat out calling it a shoddy hit piece that lacks proper citation and research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Klimkowski View Post
    Kate - thanks for posting this link.

    There is a lot of interesting information (some of it hearsay, some seemingly factual) in these pieces.

    The military/naval intelligence background of many of the "hippie" artists continues to be provocative.

    Tim Leary and the Yankees beseeching American youth to:

    Turn on, tune in... to sex and drugs and rock and roll...

    And drop out... of the anti-war movement...

    Hmmmm.. :canabis:

    Amongst the many nuggets in the pieces, the following has huge - yes genuinely huge - potential implications:

    What would become known as Lookout Mountain Laboratory was originally envisioned as an air defense center. Built in 1941 and nestled in two-and-a-half secluded acres off what is now Wonderland Park Avenue, the installation was hidden from view and surrounded by an electrified fence. By 1947, the facility featured a fully operational movie studio. In fact, it is claimed that it was perhaps the world’s only completely self-contained movie studio. With 100,000 square feet of floor space, the covert studio included sound stages, screening rooms, film processing labs, editing facilities, an animation department, and seventeen climate-controlled film vaults. It also had underground parking, a helicopter pad and a bomb shelter.

    Over its lifetime, the studio produced some 19,000 classified motion pictures – more than all the Hollywood studios combined (which I guess makes Laurel Canyon the real ‘motion picture capital of the world’). Officially, the facility was run by the U.S. Air Force and did nothing more nefarious than process AEC footage of atomic and nuclear bomb tests. The studio, however, was clearly equipped to do far more than just process film. There are indications that Lookout Mountain Laboratory had an advanced research and development department that was on the cutting edge of new film technologies. Such technological advances as 3-D effects were apparently first developed at the Laurel Canyon site. And Hollywood luminaries like John Ford, Jimmy Stewart, Howard Hawks, Ronald Reagan, Bing Crosby, Walt Disney and Marilyn Monroe were given clearance to work at the facility on undisclosed projects. There is no indication that any of them ever spoke of their work at the clandestine studio.

    The facility retained as many as 250 producers, directors, technicians, editors, animators, etc., both civilian and military, all with top security clearances – and all reporting to work in a secluded corner of Laurel Canyon. Accounts vary as to when the facility ceased operations. Some claim it was in 1969, while others say the installation remained in operation longer. In any event, by all accounts the secret bunker had been up and running for more than twenty years before Laurel Canyon’s rebellious teen years, and it remained operational for the most turbulent of those years.

    The existence of the facility remained unknown to the general public until the early 1990s, though it had long been rumored that the CIA operated a secret movie studio somewhere in or near Hollywood. Filmmaker Peter Kuran was the first to learn of its existence, through classified documents he obtained while researching his 1995 documentary, “Trinity and Beyond.” And yet even today, some 15 years after its public disclosure, one would have trouble finding even a single mention of this secret military/intelligence facility anywhere in the ‘conspiracy’ literature.
    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr96.html

    At the url below, the photos and information about a 1933-45 American Nazi compound in Kalifornia, very close to where Their creature Charlie Manson was promulgating his race war Helter Skelter apocalyptic fantasies, is fascinating.

    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr102.html
    I am reminded that Sharon Tate came from an Air Force family and lived in this area too when she was murdered. FWIW probably not much.
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    The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    I am reminded that Sharon Tate came from an Air Force family and lived in this area too when she was murdered. FWIW probably not much.
    Paul Tate, Sharon Tate's father, was Army Intelligence.

    After Sharon and her unborn child had been slaughtered, Paul Tate went on a journey into the dark, sleazy, criminal subculture that the Manson Family inhabited.

    The world of garbage cans, Kenneth Anger, the Process Church of the Final Judgement, the OTO, Hollywood's wildest families, and "acid" that produced entirely different mindtrips from LSD.

    A world where sex and violence, glamour and pain, manipulation and psychosis, were intricately linked.

    It has been suggested that Paul Tate's journey into this otherworld was, in part, the inspiration for Paul Schrader's nightmarish movie Hardcore, starring George C Scott, and 8mm starring Nicolas Cage.

    In the introduction to Vol 3 of Peter Levenda's brilliant Sinister Forces, Paul Krassner discusses the evidence of everyone from Dennis Hopper to private investigators that the LAPD found & sold hardcore films of Sharon Tate after her murder.

    Hopper was one of the sources for persistent tales of the public flogging of a drug dealer (possibly filmed) at Cielo Drive just prior to the slaughter.

    And, as I've written before, there have also been persistent - and briefly published - claims that Manson had a Naval Intelligence handler who provided him with highly experimental and potent drugs. Drugs from the dark side...
    Last edited by Jan Klimkowski; 01-30-2009 at 08:14 PM.
    "It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
    "Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
    "They are in Love. Fuck the War."

    Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

    "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
    The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Klimkowski View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Magda Hassan View Post
    I am reminded that Sharon Tate came from an Air Force family and lived in this area too when she was murdered. FWIW probably not much.
    Paul Tate, Sharon Tate's father, was Army Intelligence.
    After Sharon and her unborn child had been slaughtered, Paul Tate went on a journey into the dark, sleazy, criminal subculture that the Manson Family inhabited. ...In the introduction to Vol 3 of Peter Levenda's brilliant Sinister Forces, Paul Krassner discusses the evidence of everyone from Dennis Hopper to private investigators that the LAPD found & sold hardcore films of Sharon Tate after her murder.
    This is fascinating. I think it's unfortunate that Kate Story reacted in such a tacky way to Myra's comment, but I am wondering, Myra, why you classify this website as a hit piece? Do you know something we don't know? It's such a huge website, it would be hard for me to make such a conclusion without reviewing all of it. Could you elaborate?
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    If it can be substantiated, the claim that Laurel Canyon actually hosted a fully fledged, state of the art, deep black, movie studio is very important.

    It is also a matter of historical fact that many key "counterculture" luminaries came from military or naval intelligence families. This is important.

    What is so far unproven is which of these "counterculture" figures, these young adults born and raised in spook families at the height of the secret Narco-Behaviourist-Trauma-Conditioning experiments otherwise known by names such as MK-ULTRA, were reacting against their upbringing.

    And which were tainted by it.

    Tainted. Or Forever Owned.

    Like Tyrone Slothrop.

    The Bluebird of Happiness.

    The Blue Bird of Synchronicity.

    When is a coincidence a synchronicity?

    Maurice Maeterlinck and L'oiseau bleu.

    Shirley Temple and Jane Fonda.

    Candy Manson.
    Last edited by Jan Klimkowski; 01-30-2009 at 10:46 PM.
    "It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
    "Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
    "They are in Love. Fuck the War."

    Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon

    "Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
    The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war

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