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    ghost like entities i presume

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    Maybe all it takes to be a Sponsor is to show no protest to the major facilitators without ever saying a word. In other words, to be a person with so much power, gained by having the system corrupted in such a way as to create total power by form alone, that silent consent then becomes orders.
    Last edited by Albert Doyle; 09-25-2012 at 07:27 PM.

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    and it has nothing to do with aliens.

    GO_SECURE

    monk


    "It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

    James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)

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    Beautiful video. Even the music is good.

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    Let's return to Vallee.
    If Chicago was a ruse, i can understand framing him as a patsy, since it will deflect atttention from Oswald and will
    create false sponsors, like the Anti-Castro Cubans and John Birch Society.
    If it was a real attempt, why framing him, and not framing another patsy with Pro-Castro and FPCC background?
    Why bother designing the Mexico incident, and how Johnson would have convinced Warren to cover up to save 40 millions Americans?
    How Vallee would fit into the WWIII scenario?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilios Vazakas View Post
    Let's return to Vallee.
    If Chicago was a ruse, i can understand framing him as a patsy, since it will deflect atttention from Oswald and will
    create false sponsors, like the Anti-Castro Cubans and John Birch Society.
    If it was a real attempt, why framing him, and not framing another patsy with Pro-Castro and FPCC background?
    Why bother designing the Mexico incident, and how Johnson would have convinced Warren to cover up to save 40 millions Americans?
    How Vallee would fit into the WWIII scenario?
    No offense, but: What the hell are you talking about? A conspiracy theory?
    GO_SECURE

    monk


    "It is difficult to abolish prejudice in those bereft of ideas. The more hatred is superficial, the more it runs deep."

    James Hepburn -- Farewell America (1968)

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    Sorry, but i don't get what you don't understand

  8. Default Yates and Nagell, Chicago is spy kind of town



    Muldar and Scully. The Cigarette-Smoking Man died of cancer and the Lone Gunman he shot talked to George Noory on Coast to Coast AM last week.

    Marty you worry too much. The Secret Service has taken care of everything.

    So relaxed.

    Motorcycles slipping back. Secret Service called back. Nobody got your back.

    They’ve got a cross on your temple.

    History chokes down to fit through that hole
    and when it comes out on the other side
    it has removed all that is good

    Sponsors don’t advertise
    except subliminally

    The mansion had many rooms. Angleton was in the privy when they shot John.

    Dulles was out of town.

    If there was a plan it was false, in a locked case, chained to the wrist of a costumed cadaver, crashed in the frigid Channel where Jerry would find it and be faked out again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Burnham View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilios Vazakas View Post
    Let's return to Vallee.
    If Chicago was a ruse, i can understand framing him as a patsy, since it will deflect atttention from Oswald and will
    create false sponsors, like the Anti-Castro Cubans and John Birch Society.
    If it was a real attempt, why framing him, and not framing another patsy with Pro-Castro and FPCC background?
    Why bother designing the Mexico incident, and how Johnson would have convinced Warren to cover up to save 40 millions Americans?
    How Vallee would fit into the WWIII scenario?
    No offense, but: What the hell are you talking about? A conspiracy theory?
    If I read Vasilios correctly, he is arguing in support of my hypothesis that the Chicago "plot" was created as a Dallas doppelganger to account for leaks originating from the real operation and to create post-assassination confusion/cognitive dissonance.

    I think that Vasilios is re-posing the question I originally posed: Knowing what we know of his background, how could Vallee, in the role of patsy in a successfully executed Chicago plot, have been utilized to support what Peter Dale Scott defined in Deep Politics and the Death of JFK as "Phase One" and "Phase Two" of the JFK conspiracy cover-up:

    "Phase One put forward the phantom of an international plot, linking Oswald to the USSR, to Cuba, or to both countries together. This phantom was used to invoke the danger of a possible nuclear confrontation, which induced Chief Justice Earl Warren and other political notables to accept Phase Two, the equally false (but less dangerous) hypothesis that Oswald killed the President all by himself. …. [T]he Phase-One story… was first promoted and then defused by the CIA. Michael Beschloss has revealed that, at 9:20 AM on the morning of November 23, CIA Director John McCone briefed the new President. In Beschloss' words: 'The CIA had information on foreign connections to the alleged assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, which suggested to LBJ that Kennedy may have been murdered by an international conspiracy'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasilios Vazakas View Post
    Let's return to Vallee.
    If Chicago was a ruse, i can understand framing him as a patsy, since it will deflect atttention from Oswald and will
    create false sponsors, like the Anti-Castro Cubans and John Birch Society.
    If it was a real attempt, why framing him, and not framing another patsy with Pro-Castro and FPCC background?
    Why bother designing the Mexico incident, and how Johnson would have convinced Warren to cover up to save 40 millions Americans?
    How Vallee would fit into the WWIII scenario?


    They might not have needed it. Vallee had a very valuable attribute in having a Korean War head wound replete with metal plate and a medical history of mental incapacitation from it. If hypothetically Vallee had pulled-off the hit he could be buried more easily than Jack Ruby was with claims of mental incompetence. Just because Vallee failed to produce a WWIII virus doesn't mean he automatically would not be used to kill JFK. It is possible to get spellbound by the deep politics china shop and miss the obvious. If Vallee pulled it off they might use a 7 Days In May virus and claim a dangerous domestic threat - or even better, true Lone Nut. Johnson would then salve this by over-emphasizing the civil rights business while quietly carrying out the last written will of the martyred president by following through on the NSAM 273 escalation order. The last written order of the dead president.

    The question then is really "Why would they need the WWIII virus if they had a straight-out reason for Kennedy being killed by a demented right-winger?" Johnson/Dulles were in position to solve any scenario that came under their control. Furthermore, as I stated before, it is possible Oswald was going to be connected to Vallee somehow through that New York State driver's license. There could be unknown Oswald doppleganger stuff involving Vallee. If so it is possible Vallee would have been used to do the killing and Oswald might have been used to flee to Cuba with a cancer-causing virus (though I admit such a virus would be better delivered by a less conspicuous person than Oswald).


    By the way, the title of this thread should be "Reverse Valkyrie" since JFK was the good guy being killed by the Nazis unlike the real Valkyrie.
    Last edited by Albert Doyle; 09-26-2012 at 03:12 PM.

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