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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn Meredith View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Johnson View Post
    Peter, I know you and Dawn have met with TP. I know only what you two have said.

    His story just doesn't add up. If you want to "abort" a mission, there seems to me to be more effective means to prevent the assassination.
    Actually I have never met Tosh. He was supposed to come to Austin several times to see our mutual friend Jay back in the day but never made it. We used to talk on the phone a lot. Now I just see him on fb. He did tell me that he has further proof re Mac Wallace, but never got the details. Did he ever get into that with you Peter? It had to do with a brother of his who ad been a Dallas cop.
    Yes, he did tell me about a 'deed' Mac Wallace did - but it was not related to the JFK 'event'. And, yes, little known was that his younger brother was in the DPD!.....how'z about that! I was in contact with his brother who worked in a very 'interesting' part of the DPD and I asked him a favor...which he said he could not do...as the papers I requested had all gone 'missing'....... Tosh had and has many secrets, even if he has told a lot too. He has told me some things he doesn't want me to pass on to anyone else as long as he is alive. If you only knew some of the people on the flight, I think the idea of the flight being an 'abort team/mission' starts to fall apart. It is not beyond belief that he was told it was an abort mission, as he had no operational role other than to be co-pilot, but by 12:30 or thereabouts the true nature of his flight crew must have been apparent......
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    If you only knew some of the people on the flight
    My nomination: Allen Dulles.
    "We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William J. Casey, D.C.I

    "We will lead every revolution against us." --Theodore Herzl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Johnson View Post
    If you only knew some of the people on the flight
    My nomination: Allen Dulles.
    I thought he had been placed in Williamsburg, VA and the CIA facility and Camp Peary VA on 11/22/1963 (Talbot: The Devil's Chessboard).

    Why in the world would Dulles (who was far from stupid), or anyone else involved in the plot who was not part of the actual field team, want to be in Dallas on that day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Johnson View Post
    If you only knew some of the people on the flight
    My nomination: Allen Dulles.
    No, sorry. Dulles was meeting with others near his home over the ongoing coup - of which he was a senior planner. He was not on the flight. They were 'mechanic' types. One very big name in the mechanic class, however, was on his flight and several others known to researchers outside of Tosh's story. Personally, I believe one of the 'tramps' was on his flight. He has publicly stated that Roselli was [Col. Ralston to the CIA]. They picked Roselli up at TAMPA [where there had just been an aborted assassination attempt against JFK] and flew to New Orleans [of all places!]. A very large and heavy WOODEN crate was onloaded in N.O. along with some new people, and they flew to Houston and then the morning of the BIG EVENT to Garland airport in the north of Dallas. He says that he then flew to RedBird airport which is just West of Oak Cliff area, but there is a problem with that part of the story and I don't want to get into too much of the 'problem' here. Long ago - well before his name came out any other way or by any other researcher's work, Tosh had told me the name of the manager of Red Bird Airport and asked me to contact him to confirm that he [Tosh] had been there that day with that specific plane. The name he gave was Wayne January. I did contact January, but Mr. January was too afraid to say anything about that day! As it turns out, January developed a friendship with researcher Matthew Smith. January gave a sworn deposition to Smith under the priviso that it not be released publicly until both he and his wife had died. Smith honored that and you can now find the information of what January witnessed in both of Smith's books on the JFK assassination. In short, a plane of the exact type Tosh says he was flying WAS at RedBird and did take off a few hours after the assassination. Further that plane had been there for several days being fixed up and sold to the new owner who kept his identity secret. The man who was to be the pilot and was was not Tosh - but that person [who's name I know, although it is not public] told January BEFORE the assassination that JFK was going to be killed that day in Dallas. January did NOT take the warning seriously until the assassination happened and was until he died scared to death! The problem for Tosh is January does not place Plumlee at the airport - nor does the plane Tosh and the other pilot that talks to January have the same history. I have asked Tosh endlessly to explain, best he can, the discrepancies of the two stories - but Tosh has refused to even try.... I wrestled with the two stories for years and it all but destroyed my life, literally. I had death threats and more for my research on that and related matters. If Tosh was not part of that plane's crew, he certainly had been told the details of what January had witnessed. January was never specifically asked about Tosh, nor shown a photo of him except by me [to my knowledge] - but as I said, when I contacted January he had not yet met Smith and was still too frightened to talk to anyone about that day and the days before 11.22.63. There are other parts of Tosh's story that do seem to fit and some that do not. I had Tom Wilson - little known JFK researcher friend of Wecht and computer expert in photonics investigate some photos I had along with other information. Wilson concluded that as Tosh had stated there were two men, operational, standing in the shadow of a tree on the SOUTH KNOLL of Dealey Plaza. Wilson had more to say and I have never told the full story. Sadly there was an 'official' book about Wilson after his death, arranged by his family [mostly his son] that fails to go into the research Wilson did for me about Tosh's story - and a lot of other things. The family refuses to allow me or anyone else to have Tom Wilson's work product - a copy of which was given to the highest levels of the FBI [the FBI now denies they ever received it, but I can prove otherwise with a living witness] - and a copy of it resides in a place I know and under the custody of a person I know - but the family is refusing for it to be released and there is no body in the USA I could tell this too who could or would subpoena it, etc. Most think that Wilson was a brilliant but nutty genius. I know better. The FBI was so afraid of the truth of his work on the JFK assassination, they made what he gave them disappear. I was often in contact with Tom Wilson up to his death. There is much more to Tosh's story than is publicly known. I know parts of it and sadly some who knew other parts are now dead. His story as stated has some problems which he refuses to work with me or anyone else to resolve.

    Dulles was deeply involved at a very high level - but was not on anyone's flight in or out of Dallas. He was where Phil mentions, above.
    If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” - Frederick Douglass
    "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
    "Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn

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