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Scott Kaiser Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Roger Stone has contacted me, we spoke over the phone for a while, he's asking for all my paper work on Nixon and all my Libengood papers over Watergate and my father's conversation with Libengood to use in his book which comes out in ten days, I don't know if this will hurt me or help me when my book comes out. I wish, I knew what to do. :Sad:

Not sure what's right for you either. That will need to be your decision. But I work on the assumption that the information always wants to be free. So I would encourage you to share away. Make it public and available. Your use of that information and your own story will make it unique. Other people will have their take on the information as it may relate to them. And that will be unique to them. That's their story. Together it is hoped that we all, you, me, everyone looking on, get a bigger and better picture of these hidden history. We all have a right to know. You especially.

As always, thank you for the kind words and helpful advise, I don't believe it could hurt me as I believe that I will go into more detail than Roger would on the subject, I'm beginning to think that helping my fellow authors by adding any missing pieces of this huge puzzle would allow us all to benefit from.

I'm sure if I was looking for information he would do the same, and help me out. And so, on that note, I'll be sure to get him what he needs before the release of his book. Thanks for the advise.

I'm with Magda here. I've usually found that freely helping other authors with their research is a good thing, and that most appreciate it. There's exceptions to this rule, of course, a few people who abuse your generosity, but that's to be expected.
David Guyatt Wrote:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:Roger Stone has contacted me, we spoke over the phone for a while, he's asking for all my paper work on Nixon and all my Libengood papers over Watergate and my father's conversation with Libengood to use in his book which comes out in ten days, I don't know if this will hurt me or help me when my book comes out. I wish, I knew what to do. :Sad:

Not sure what's right for you either. That will need to be your decision. But I work on the assumption that the information always wants to be free. So I would encourage you to share away. Make it public and available. Your use of that information and your own story will make it unique. Other people will have their take on the information as it may relate to them. And that will be unique to them. That's their story. Together it is hoped that we all, you, me, everyone looking on, get a bigger and better picture of these hidden history. We all have a right to know. You especially.

As always, thank you for the kind words and helpful advise, I don't believe it could hurt me as I believe that I will go into more detail than Roger would on the subject, I'm beginning to think that helping my fellow authors by adding any missing pieces of this huge puzzle would allow us all to benefit from.

I'm sure if I was looking for information he would do the same, and help me out. And so, on that note, I'll be sure to get him what he needs before the release of his book. Thanks for the advise.

I'm with Magda here. I've usually found that freely helping other authors with their research is a good thing, and that most appreciate it. There's exceptions to this rule, of course, a few people who abuse your generosity, but that's to be expected.

Scott, I'd only advise you, if you give him the materials to sign an understanding with both him and his publisher, that you are to be given clear credit for the materials. That will help both your reputation and your book when it comes out, IMO.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Not sure what's right for you either. That will need to be your decision. But I work on the assumption that the information always wants to be free. So I would encourage you to share away. Make it public and available. Your use of that information and your own story will make it unique. Other people will have their take on the information as it may relate to them. And that will be unique to them. That's their story. Together it is hoped that we all, you, me, everyone looking on, get a bigger and better picture of these hidden history. We all have a right to know. You especially.

As always, thank you for the kind words and helpful advise, I don't believe it could hurt me as I believe that I will go into more detail than Roger would on the subject, I'm beginning to think that helping my fellow authors by adding any missing pieces of this huge puzzle would allow us all to benefit from.

I'm sure if I was looking for information he would do the same, and help me out. And so, on that note, I'll be sure to get him what he needs before the release of his book. Thanks for the advise.

I'm with Magda here. I've usually found that freely helping other authors with their research is a good thing, and that most appreciate it. There's exceptions to this rule, of course, a few people who abuse your generosity, but that's to be expected.

Scott, I'd only advise you, if you give him the materials to sign an understanding with both him and his publisher, that you are to be given clear credit for the materials. That will help both your reputation and your book when it comes out, IMO.
Good advice Peter. And it would be the honourable thing to do.
David Andrews Wrote:It's situation that needs puzzling out. Nixon prosecuted the Vietnam war ferociously, which meant that more money was being spent and made in the war industry, and more opium was traded to pay for it and generate other profits. Is it because Nixon threatened to end the cash flow abruptly with nuclear weapons that he was axed? The whole point of the war was to keep it going without victory.

It is difficult to believe, however, that Nixon sought detente with Russia and China on his own initiative. However much he aspired to statesmanship, he lacked the stuff for it. And these detentes were grand-scale efforts that had to be coordinated over advance periods in diplomacy - diplomacy that deeply involved Nixon's minder, Kissinger, the Rockefellers' man. It would seem that the point of these detentes was to appease Russia and China, neutralize a nuclear response from those quarters, and keep the Vietnam war going under tripartite consent with the US.

It has to have been the nuclear weapons threat, or a combination of that and domestic Nixon threats, that made Nixon seem off the rails, a danger to the Vietnam enterprise. At the deciding point Haig, the Rockefellers' hatchet man, was put in to terminate Nixon's second administration.

Still - its difficult to see how Nixon could have not known the game plan intended for Vietnam, and not stuck with it. Perhaps his nuclear threat was rightly perceived as madness, a sweeping of the board that would disrupt all play. Perhaps the ideal of statesmanship dangled before him with the detente initiatives went to his head. Perhaps Nixon would not give in to defeat under domestic criticism as did LBJ, and Nixon's response to that pressure was to seek to score a nuclear smash victory for Nixon.

The idea of replacing Nixon with Agnew - as much as the assassination attempts on Ford - is quite indicative of the cynicism with which the presidency was regarded by the money powers. But what am I talking about - that had already been demonstrated in Dallas, 1963. Didn't Nixon understand that play?


The American Establishment was deeply divided by the war. By 1968, the Euro-centered faction wanted to find a way out of Vietnam, while the Asia/Latin America-faction wanted to stay in and win. No one wanted the war to go on forever without victory. No country can sustain that, and the public wouldn't tolerate it. Look how close the US came to revolution in 1968-71. The whole point of the war was to secure control of the natural resources and markets of Southeast Asia, plus the heroin trade. And establish a permanent US military presence to support it all. Same thing they're trying to do in Afghanistan.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:
Magda Hassan Wrote:Not sure what's right for you either. That will need to be your decision. But I work on the assumption that the information always wants to be free. So I would encourage you to share away. Make it public and available. Your use of that information and your own story will make it unique. Other people will have their take on the information as it may relate to them. And that will be unique to them. That's their story. Together it is hoped that we all, you, me, everyone looking on, get a bigger and better picture of these hidden history. We all have a right to know. You especially.

As always, thank you for the kind words and helpful advise, I don't believe it could hurt me as I believe that I will go into more detail than Roger would on the subject, I'm beginning to think that helping my fellow authors by adding any missing pieces of this huge puzzle would allow us all to benefit from.

I'm sure if I was looking for information he would do the same, and help me out. And so, on that note, I'll be sure to get him what he needs before the release of his book. Thanks for the advise.

I'm with Magda here. I've usually found that freely helping other authors with their research is a good thing, and that most appreciate it. There's exceptions to this rule, of course, a few people who abuse your generosity, but that's to be expected.

Scott, I'd only advise you, if you give him the materials to sign an understanding with both him and his publisher, that you are to be given clear credit for the materials. That will help both your reputation and your book when it comes out, IMO.

I'm just now reading this, and it's GREAT! advise, thanks Peter!
Scott Kaiser Wrote:
Peter Lemkin Wrote:
David Guyatt Wrote:
Scott Kaiser Wrote:As always, thank you for the kind words and helpful advise, I don't believe it could hurt me as I believe that I will go into more detail than Roger would on the subject, I'm beginning to think that helping my fellow authors by adding any missing pieces of this huge puzzle would allow us all to benefit from.

I'm sure if I was looking for information he would do the same, and help me out. And so, on that note, I'll be sure to get him what he needs before the release of his book. Thanks for the advise.

I'm with Magda here. I've usually found that freely helping other authors with their research is a good thing, and that most appreciate it. There's exceptions to this rule, of course, a few people who abuse your generosity, but that's to be expected.

Scott, I'd only advise you, if you give him the materials to sign an understanding with both him and his publisher, that you are to be given clear credit for the materials. That will help both your reputation and your book when it comes out, IMO.

I'm just now reading this, and it's GREAT! advise, thanks Peter!


Thanks Peter for the great advise, he agreed, he really is a nice guy over the phone, my mother also asked that I thank you for that advise, I've sent him everything I have on the Libengood papers, and showed him that Nixon did in-fact speak at the VVAW in 1973. I sent him that document too. Just hope my book can do as well for my mother who I really own everything to for keeping us safe, I dedicate this book to them, (my parents). I love you mom with all my heart, this is for you!
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