Magda Hassan Wrote:There must be a school of architecture that these architects with lobotomies go to which sucks out all the creativity and joy to design building in harmony with the natural landscape and humanity.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Seems like the architect had something between this zaggarat and the Hanging Gardens of Babylon
I guess I sound like one of those conspiracy theorists. ::fury::
I think the architect was doing his job and he did it
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:There must be a school of architecture that these architects with lobotomies go to which sucks out all the creativity and joy to design building in harmony with the natural landscape and humanity.
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Seems like the architect had something between this zaggarat and the Hanging Gardens of Babylon
I guess I sound like one of those conspiracy theorists. ::fury::
I think the architect was doing his job and he did it
Clearly the client is a small fearful low IQ psycho who hates humanity and the natural world. The architect/s weak as piss to go along with such a monstrosity.
Quote:Clearly the client is a small fearful low IQ psycho who hates humanity and the natural world. The architect/s weak as piss to go along with such a monstrosity.
Psycho? Check.
Hates humanity? Check.
Hates the natural world? Check.
Small, fearful, low IQ? Hmmm. Not really from my perspective.
This building is at the core of how I have come to conceive of what is behind the NWO, which I understand, at its core as a radical reformulation of, and excuse the term, the created world. I think we are talking about a demonic brilliance that is patient and in thrall with its vision. It laughs at hiding its vision in plain site to those whose eyes are wide shut. The sheer fun of debasing and ruining the creation is a joy from which they draw, in their own minds, power.
My imagination is that the ultimate dream is to destroy the planet and leave it as they travel in the company of the divine elect establishing their godlike vision in new forms of existence.
Who are "they?" Old, entitled wealth and power who maintain their black vision through black magic. To be accepted to the fringes of these circles, you must be ready to do debased and debasing things. You know. Your basics. Pedophilia. Drug smuggling. Rape.
Sociologically, we are talking about a tiny sub-culture that has unbelievable wealth, power, and commitment to being debased and wallowing in it.
Maybe I have had too much coffee. But there ya are.
Lauren Johnson Wrote:Quote:Clearly the client is a small fearful low IQ psycho who hates humanity and the natural world. The architect/s weak as piss to go along with such a monstrosity.
Small, fearful, low IQ? Hmmm. Not really from my perspective.
For me the building and those like it screams of massive compensation to make up for their complete lack of being on every level.
But I get your take as well. ::dictator::::trenchcoatspy:::
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Huge police siege now under way in Saint Denis [northern] part of Paris. Police say the 'mastermind' of the attacks is surrounded in two apartment buildings on the same street......shooting heard, as well as explosions. People fleeing building in their pajamas and underwear. Three persons reported killed. Three arrested....is the current report.
Update: Now reported that one of several explosion was not from the police, but by a woman with a suicide explosive vest inside the apartment. All unconfirmed at this point. I'm viewing scenes of huge numbers of swat-type police outside the small apartment buildings. I myself heard at least six or large seven explosions and gunfire.
This so called mastermind of the attacks, Abaaoud - a Belgian national, was first said in the last few days, as being back in Syria. Now police say they have or had him surrounded in Paris during this action which started at 4:30am CET.
The French Military have just deployed around the area, as well.
West Leverages Paris Attacks for Syria Endgame
http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/18/west-l...a-endgame/
Quote:The terrorist attacks carried out in the heart of the French capital, either coincidentally or intentionally, have served as the perfect point of leverage for the West on the very eve of the so-called "Vienna talks" regarding Syria.
With its serendipitously strengthened hand and with France taking a more prominent role, the West is attempting to reassert not only its narrative, but its agenda regarding the ongoing conflict in Syria, an agenda that has as of late been derailed by Russia's military intervention and recent gains made on the battlefield by Syrian military forces. The London Guardian stated in its article "Paris attacks galvanise international efforts to end Syria war" that:
The Isis attacks in Paris have galvanised international efforts to end the war in Syria, with a new deadline set for negotiations between the warring parties and for a country-wide ceasefire.
There is still no sign of agreement, however, on the key question of the future of the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.
It should seem extraordinary to the global public that even after the attacks in Paris, the West still insists on undermining the Syrian government toward its goal of "regime change," which includes continued material support to armed militants all of which are extremists, and many of which have either coordinated with, or fought under the banner of Al Qaeda and even the self-proclaimed "Islamic State" (ISIS).
This is also considering the fact that the Syrian government is now currently engaged in battle with ISIS in and around Aleppo, and is currently threatening to sever its supply lines leading out of NATO-member Turkey's territory.
Regarding this point, the Guardian would even report:
It was clear, however, that Russia and the US have again had to agree to disagree about Assad. The Paris attacks "show that it doesn't matter if you're for Assad or against him," said the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov. "Isis is your enemy."
However, to explain the West's apparent failure to prioritize, the Guardian claims:
Isis, in their [the West's] view, is a symptom of political failings in both Iraq and Syria. The Vienna participants are to meet in Paris before the end of the year to review progress toward a ceasefire and the selection of delegations for the Syrian talks.
In reality, ISIS is not a "symptom of political failings." It is the result of concerted, immense, multinational state-sponsorship. Entire armies of the immense scale ISIS operates on do not rise out of "political failings," they rise from huge, preexisting financial networks, region-wide logistical support, multinational political support, intelligence networking, and experienced military planning and organizational skills.
The West and its regional allies, namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey, clearly constitute this immense multinational state-sponsorship ISIS has so far enjoyed. A look at any map depicting the Syrian conflict shows ISIS supply lines running directly out of NATO-member Turkey's territory and in numerous reports, even out of the West's most prominent papers, it is even admitted that ISIS is supplied in Syria, via Turkey.
It is clear then that "political failings" are not the "cause" of ISIS except only in the sense that the "failure" to exact regime change in Syria has prompted the West to continue propping up ISIS and other terrorist groups until the government in Damascus falls and only when Damascus' regional and global allies abandon it.
The West Got What it Wanted in Libya And Created ISIS in the Process
The West's claims during the Vienna talks that if only they get their way in Syria, the threat of ISIS will subside, is betrayed by the events surrounding the very rise of ISIS in Syria in the first place.
Just before the conflict reached critical mass in Syria during 2011, the US, UK, France, other NATO members, as well as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), were already in the process of fully dividing and destroying Libya in pursuit of regime change.
They insisted that regime change was the only way to end the bitter fighting that had swept the country regime change that just so happened to fulfill the long-held desire by Washington and Europe to see Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi ousted from power.
Through arming what the West called "rebels," and through direct military intervention which included large-scale, nationwide airstrikes, naval bombardments, and even special forces, NATO devastated the country and turned it over literally to Al Qaeda. The West's "rebels" turned out to be sectarian extremists all along, and in fact with NATO's help they promptly took their weapons, fighters, and cash to begin the invasion of northern Syria via Turkey later that year.
The Business Insider would report in its article, "REPORT: The US Is Openly Sending Heavy Weapons From Libya To Syrian Rebels," that:
The administration has said that the previously hidden CIA operation in Benghazi involved finding, repurchasing and destroying heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, but in October we reported evidence indicating that U.S. agents particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.
There have been several possible SA-7 spottings in Syria dating as far back as early summer 2012, and there are indications that at least some of Gaddafi's 20,000 portable heat-seeking missiles were shipped before now.
On Sept. 6 a Libyan ship carrying 400 tons of weapons for Syrian rebels docked in southern Turkey. The ship's captain was "a Libyan from Benghazi" who worked for the new Libyan government. The man who organized that shipment, Tripoli Military Council head Abdelhakim Belhadj, worked directly with Stevens during the Libyan revolution.
Belhadj, it should be mentioned, was the commander of US State Department-listed foreign terrorist organization, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) which is literally Al Qaeda in Libya and was so before, during, and after the 2011 Libyan war. Belhadj was also reportedly aligned with ISIS as it officially established itself in the shattered North African state. Fox News would report in its article, "Herridge: ISIS Has Turned Libya Into New Support Base, Safe Haven," that:
[Catherine] Herridge reported that one of the alleged leaders of ISIS in North Africa is Libyan Abdelhakim Belhadj, who was seen by the U.S. as a willing partner in the overthrow of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.
"Now, it's alleged he is firmly aligned with ISIS and supports the training camps in eastern Libya," Herridge said.
It is clear that despite Western claims that regime change in Libya would be the beginning of the end for Libya's violence and instability, it was only the end of the beginning and not only for chaos in Libya but for other nations across North Africa and in Syria itself.
Using Another 9/11 to Justify Creating Another Libya
NATO's intervention and regime change in Libya did not avert a refugee crisis, it helped create one. NATO's intervention and successful regime change in Libya did not make the region or the world safer, it turned the entire nation into a breeding ground for terrorist organizations with so-far unprecedented reach and operational capacity. NATO's goals in Libya did not prevent the refugee crisis, it helped start it. And with all of this in mind, having seen this and taken full stock of Libya's outcome, the West has nonetheless moved forward with precisely the same agenda in Syria.
In all reality, the West has no intention of bringing peace or stability to Syria. Their goal is to leave Syria as divided and destroyed as Libya, and to use the chaos and instability fostered there as a springboard for other targets of the West's proxy warfare most likely Iran, Russia, and targets deeper in Central Asia.
The West promises that it will end the chaos in Syria, just like they promised it would end in Libya. It will not end in either.
With Libya's fate in mind, and a repeat performance clearly taking shape in Syria should the West get its way, it must be made clear that no matter how many innocent people are killed by terrorists the West itself helped create and perpetuate, they will not get an opportunity to turn Syria into the "Libya of the Levant," no matter how convenient and well-timed these killings are, no matter how deep they are within the heart of Europe or North America, and no matter how tragic and regrettable the aftermath is.
Tony Cartalucci, Bangkok-based geopolitical researcher and writer, especially for the online magazine"New Eastern Outlook".
The Shadow Aspects' of the Paris Massacre
http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/16/the-sh...-massacre/
Quote:A series of bloody attacks in Paris exposed a handful of aspects that have so far been hindered by the official rhetoric of Western politicians and media sources in order to show the so-called "success" of "anti-terrorist campaign" unleashed by Washington. But first one must ask the question who benefits from the Paris attacks?
Let's start with coverage of the unprecedented wave of migration that has struck Europe in recent months. The Western media has already begun to gradually leak information that there's no way that this flow could be unprovoked or uncontrolled, so there can be little doubt that there's certain financial and political circles behind this crisis. Ultimately, these criminals have struck gold, cashing in on the desire of displaced residents of Africa and the Middle East to pursue a better life in Europe.
A series of investigations that were being carried out in this field would have uncovered certain Western politicians behind this trafficking, so the Paris attacks were necessary to create a handful of problems for private investigators, while strengthening the position of far-right political forces in Europe, especially in a situation when these attacks were carried out by incredibly young terrorists, as it has been reported by the French press.
Recent opinion polls in France and several other European countries indicate that the refugee crisis and the ongoing Washington wars have pushed right-wing forces to the center stage of European politics, that may become obvious during upcoming French elections.
The ongoing crusade that has been carried by US neoconservatives for over 15 years now, in a desperate attempt to establish US hegemony over the Middle East has virtually obliterated the electoral support that the ruling political establishment in Europe enjoyed for decades. European nations want to preserve their cultural identity, therefore, they object to the prospect of being forced into a modern tower of Babel, created by millions of refugees forced from their homes by Washington's wars. This situation strengthens the position of right-wing forces in France and in Europe in general. There's no need to explain that the recent attacks in Paris will strengthen the position of those who have called to close the borders for migrants, especially in Germany and Sweden.
The EU has been searching for a "decent way out" of the migration crisis, especially in a situation when EU member states started fighting over migrant quotas, reluctant to suffer any more economical damage. After all, no one would genuinely believe that French security services, once they were provided with unlimited capabilities to spy on any resident in the country, would "miss" terrorists planning to slaughter the civilian population with AKs, especially during such days when the French president is holding a meeting with the honorary guest of a neighboring state.
However, special attention must be paid to the US response to these attacks, that is not simply exposing the true role of Washington in this tragedy, but also reveals the true face of Western hypocrisy.
As always, while trying to fool the public with American pseudo-success in the field of combating terrorism', on Friday November 13, Barack Obama in an interview on ABC News made a "sensational" statement that the United States "due to its decisive actions" has managed "to contain the terrorists of the Islamic State." It's noteworthy that the Washington Times commented on this statement with a short note about the terrorist attack in Paris being carried out hours after this statement.
However, this was not the only "revelation" made by US officials, as US Secretary of State John Kerry at a meeting of foreign ministers in Vienna, has publicly stated that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "… is closely affiliated with ISIL .. since he buys crude oil from ISIL". Someone would want turn a blind eye to such remarks made by Kerry, since his apparent "fatigue" caused by numerous trips in recent years is now apparent. It all must be really difficult for a man of his age, especially when his military background is taken into account. But it's obvious now that at times he cannot read the speeches that were written for him by his aides. Or maybe he hasn't been interested in the international and American media lately, that has been revealing the involvement of the United States in the creation of ISIL, while the crude oil stolen by ISIL is being sold by American allies Turkey and Ukraine.
While trying to stay out of direct military involvement in Syria, the US has urged Paris to send an expeditionary force to Syria for it to fight the Islamic state. This call has been voiced by Stratfor, which is often labeled as the "shadow CIA". In particular, Stratfor noted that the sky over Syria is packed with Syrian and Russian warplanes, so France may engage the Islamic State on the ground in Syria, Iraq and in other countries, including Libya. Stratfor anyalists are convinced that this engagement would be no different from the French operation in the African Sahel region, which was aimed at suppressing various extremist groups. As for the US, Stratfor states, it would assist France with transport aircraft.
It is possible that in the next weeks we will learn of even more "shadow aspects" of the brutal attack on Paris, and about the role Western elites played in it. It may be that we are witnessing a repeat of "Operation Gladio", due to which hundreds of innocent Italians perished in CIA-planned terrorist attacks that were aimed at ensuring the success of Western oligarchies.
Martin Berger is a Czech-based freelance journalist and analyst, exclusively for the online magazine "New Eastern Outlook
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That building's design bothers me as much as what goes on inside....trying to look like a 'modern castle', complete with moat.
uh oh. The old rice-bowl raises it's ugly head. Create a threat, sit back for it to do its bloody awful thing, and then suck in the money to build the bureaucracy fight it.
Do we never learn how these guys operate?
ISIS dividend: Defense stocks soar after Paris attacks
https://www.rt.com/usa/322489-defense-st...s-attacks/
Quote:While travel and tourism-related stocks have suffered since last Friday's terror attacks in Paris, investors keep pouring their money into weapons. Defense industry stocks have seen all-time highs since the rise of Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.
Weapons manufacturers had a good opening at the New York Stock Exchange on Monday, with Lockheed Martin trading 3.5 percent higher, Northrop Grumman up 4.4 percent, and Raytheon up 4 percent. Stocks of French defense giant Thales were up 3 percent, even as French markets were down overall, according to the Sydney Morning Herald.
Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), a terror group controlling large portions of Iraq and Syria, claimed responsibility for Friday's string of attacks in Paris that left at least 129 dead and over 350 injured. In response, the French government has escalated its military efforts against IS, bombing the group's stronghold in Raqqa and proceeding with the plans to send the navy's flagship aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, to the Middle East.
Typical investor response to terrorist attacks has been largely absent in this instance, however, with European and Asian markets slipping only slightly. Meanwhile, the generally anemic state of stock markets at the moment has made weapons manufacturers stand out.
Terrorism and war have been good for defense contractors, who are credited with driving the Dow Jones to a speedy recovery within six months of the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington, DC. A decade into the "War on Terror," however, market and defense analysts were predicting a downturn.
"We're about to go into the downhill side of the roller coaster here," David Berteau, a defense industry analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told USA Today in 2011, as US forces began withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Yet the rise of IS has given weapons-makers a shot in the arm. Northrop Grumman is trading at $263 a share, up 160 percent from 2013, and Lockheed Martin is up 150 percent, at $221 a share. Thales stocks were also up 160 percent, at $102 (€67.70), according to the Sydney Morning Herald.
The Intercept has also noted the market gains made by weapons manufacturers in the wake of the carnage in Paris.
"The private-sector industrial prong of the Military and Surveillance State always wins, but especially when the media's war juices start flowing," wrote Glenn Greenwald, one of the publication's founding editors.
This is ending well now. Abbot Suger and Blanche are sleeping well this day, thank the Lord. Let us pray, and live another day, OK?
For a very good background on all 'this' happening in Paris, Syria, and the Middle East, generally....watch this talk by F. William Engdahl. Covers it from A to Z and beyond....what you need to know to place the puzzle pieces.....
....though I do not believe his statement that no or few died in Paris. At the nightclub, many witnesses testified to scenes of executions and bloodbath - and there were many who lost loved ones, many in hospitals still on the critical list, doctors and ambulance persons who saw and worked on these people.....