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I suppose an Occupy movement can't happen in Cuba because CIA kills all the leaders it opposes so Castro doesn't want to be one of them.

Magda Hassan Wrote:

Keith Millea Wrote:

Quote:These marching orders were taken most seriously in where else? the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement back in 1964, at Sproul Plaza, entry way into the University of California at Berkeley. FSM's birth was prompted by the arrest of Jack Weinberg for soliciting money for the civil rights movement. He was put into a police car, but a spontaneous sit-down trapped it. Eventually the roof was used as a FSM platform.

The amazing arrest of Jack Weinberg,placed in a police car,and surrounded by protesters for 32 hours.This is what Democracy looked like, "back in the day"!

Thanks for this Keith! I haven't seen this before. Good to see how it started.

Yeah, That's pretty much where it all started....the FSM at Berkeley! People couldn't yet articulate their feelings of how America had changed after the Assassination of JFK, but they felt it viscerally. Vietnam was starting to heat up under Johnson and there was a stirring that swept through the Country, growing for the next 13-15 years. Now, with Occupy, I feel they stand on the shoulders of the FSP and what came after, just as the FSM stood on the shoulders of the Civil Rights Movement and on and on back.

Magda Hassan Wrote:

Keith Millea Wrote:

Quote:These marching orders were taken most seriously in where else? the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement back in 1964, at Sproul Plaza, entry way into the University of California at Berkeley. FSM's birth was prompted by the arrest of Jack Weinberg for soliciting money for the civil rights movement. He was put into a police car, but a spontaneous sit-down trapped it. Eventually the roof was used as a FSM platform.

The amazing arrest of Jack Weinberg,placed in a police car,and surrounded by protesters for 32 hours.This is what Democracy looked like, "back in the day"!

Thanks for this Keith! I haven't seen this before. Good to see how it started.

Thanks Magda:

One of the things that I find quite interesting,is that the police back then,even though they still kicked ass,seem to have some basic humanity left in them.Compare the police in the video to the robotrons that we have today.It's a vivid reminder of just how far we've slipped into the abyss.

We have seen the slow but inexorable militarization of the local police starting back in the Reagan era under LEAA funds, all well-tracked and documented (much of it already here), with ties to FEMA, emergency management, COG, etc etc. Back then, it was set up to block riots in the streets coming from either racial tensions or war/anti-war (more Hegelian nonsense). And we have a situation that is easily five to ten times worse in terms of surveillance, and the tehcn-nification of suppression. Much of the weaponry of war has been brought to the streets of America to be used to insure the status quo. How long before the UAV's and the real robots are in use?

Toronto faces eviction at midnight tonight! They are on Church Property, and the Church turned on them, from friendly to foe.

You should Google the news on the Occupy movement. The US media is becoming increasingly hostile as if this was a frivolous, artsy symbolic protest but all the children should now go home.

Albert Doyle Wrote:You should Google the news on the Occupy movement. The US media is becoming increasingly hostile as if this was a frivolous, artsy symbolic protest but all the children should now go home.

I brushed past a brief exposure to "The View" this morning,long enough to hear the phrase -- about the pepper-spray incident -- that we were seeing merely the application of a mechanism of compliance, as though the recalcitrants who were sprayed were children having a tantrum and needed a "time out". The counter thought was that an attack with pepper spray incapacitated the people rather than getting them to move.

So the pepper spray is aimed at all those who were thinking of participating...

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Ed Jewett Wrote:

Albert Doyle Wrote:You should Google the news on the Occupy movement. The US media is becoming increasingly hostile as if this was a frivolous, artsy symbolic protest but all the children should now go home.

I brushed past a brief exposure to "The View" this morning,long enough to hear the phrase -- about the pepper-spray incident -- that we were seeing merely the application of a mechanism of compliance, as though the recalcitrants who were sprayed were children having a tantrum and needed a "time out". The counter thought was that an attack with pepper spray incapacitated the people rather than getting them to move.

So the pepper spray is aimed at all those who were thinking of participating...

"The pepper spray incident"
It was police brutality and violence on unarmed and peaceful people. It was assault and battery. Any one else would be in the slammer quick smart. But we know laws only apply to 99%.

Apologies, Magda; you are right. But then I am suspended in some kind of strange socio-cultural soup up here where the "surround" is in some kind of state of suspended de-animation, and it apparently rubs off from time to time. It has something to do with propaganda, the media and an annoying tendency for many to believe them, or most likely not even pay any attention. Gross dis-embodied mindlessness abounds...