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| Study: Fire Did Not Bring Down BLdg 7 |
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Posted by: Lauren Johnson - 04-09-2019, 07:59 PM - Forum: 911
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On September 11, 2001, at 5:20 PM, the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 collapsed into its footprint, falling more than 100 feet at the rate of gravity for 2.5 seconds of its seven-second destruction.
Today, we at Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth are pleased to partner with the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) in releasing the draft report of a four-year computer modeling study of WTC 7's collapse conducted by researchers in the university's Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering.
The release of the draft report begins a two-month period during which the public is invited to submit comments. The final report will be published later this year.
We invite you to read the report and to tune in at 10:00 PM Eastern tonight for Dr. Leroy Hulsey's presentation at the UAF campus, where he will outline his team's findings.
[URL="https://www.ae911truth.org/news/561-university-study-finds-fire-did-not-bring-down-world-trade-center-building-7-on-9-11"]
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/561-univ...-7-on-9-11[/URL]
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| The More Things Change... |
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Posted by: Richard Coleman - 21-08-2019, 12:16 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination
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the more they stay the same: LHO came and went a total of 20 times from two of the most surveilled sites in the Western hemisphere - the Cuban and Russian embassies (or consulates, whatever). CIA had them covered with motion-detection cameras. How many photos of LHO emanated from this coverage? None, zero, nada, zip.
Jeffrey Epstein, under suicide watch was covered by cameras if not aimed at his cell, at least at the hallway outside it. How many pictures of that hallway during the relevant period? See above.
LHO was in custody of the police, in a police station when he was killed by Ruby. All films show that Oz was UNPROTECTED. Cops to his left; cops to his right; cops behind him - but NOONE in front, allowing Ruby to lunge at him and off him. JE, in custody of the police, in a police station, was likewise UNPROTECTED when he - uh - committed suicide. Where was his protective detail? Sleeping. Riiiiiight.
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| Billy Joe Lord 1977 Letter to new POTUS: Why is there STILL misunderstanding of what triggered it? |
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Posted by: Tom Scully - 28-07-2019, 06:48 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination
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On another forum, a comment today indicates the community, including forum veterans, do not get out of an insular world, often enough.
Short and sweet:
In 1968, Reader's Digest sponsored Henry Hurt, according to his wedding announcement, moved back to Virginia from his Kennebunkport school teacher job location. He married the daughter of Langbourne Williams's brother.
Quote:https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/5939652/
September 8, 1968The Danville Register from Danville, Virginia · Page 36
[FONT=&]Troth Is Announced Of Miss Williams, Henry C. Hurt Jr. Mr. and Mrs. George Dandridge Williams of "Campbell Field," Rapidan, announce the engagement of their daughter, Margaret Nolting, to Henry Charles Hurt Jr., of Kennebunkport, Maine, son of Mr. and Mrs; Henry Charles Hurt of Chatham. Miss Williams was graduated from St. Catherine's School and Sweet Briar College. She is the granddaughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Langbourne M. Williams and the late Mr. and Mrs. John Peyton MGuire of Richmond. Mr. Hurt attended St. Christopher's School and was graduated from the University of Mississippi. He is the grandson of Mrs. Robert Hurt of Lynchburg, and the late Mr. Hurt and of Mrs. Robert Gaston Hallam of Dallas, Texas, and the late Mr. Hallam. The wedding is planned for October 5.[/FONT]
Langbourne Williams, president of Freeport Sulphur, was closely related to Gerry Bemiss (Billy Joe Lord reliably described Bemiss being
a high ranking Virginia republican party and hotel operator, and Lord had never met Bemiss.)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8908...eld-bemiss
Bemiss's grandmother, Cyan Williams Bemiss was the sister of Langbourne Willams's father.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8889...e-williams
"Barb", however, described one her husband's George HW's oldest and closest friends, dating back to their boyhoods, as an F.O.P., not
a F.O.G.
Quote:The Matriarch: Barbara Bush and the Making of an American Dynasty
Susan Page - 2019 - ‎Biography & Autobiography
It was FitzGerald Bemiss, a pal of Prescott Bush from Kennebunkport. He had battled bad weather to get there from Cornell University. He was supposed to be in ...
Quote:https://books.google.com/books?id=jRvdwo...ng&f=false
The China Diary of George H. W. Bush: The Making of a …
Jeffrey A. Engel 2011 ‎History
The Making of a Global President Jeffrey A. Engel … Bemis, Lias and Devine had a meeting regarding my political futurevery thoughtful of them.5 All I know …
Tom Scully Wrote:Quote:Posted 16 July 2015 - 04:40 AM
Good work Brian - you assembled a lot of the Bush connections in one place. I sometimes wonder if the members of the board here just feel it's too dangerous to jump on this bandwagon. There is of course more info, as you alluded to when you reached Bush as VP, and it ties directly to the whole BOP thing. I also think Tidd is right to tie in the drug trade, as Peter Dale Scott did so admirably.......
"Over there," they are reinventing the wheel, learning how to crawl, all over again, before they can walk.
Tom Scully Wrote:Lemme distill my last post to one sentence. I discovered in the dim dawn light this A.M. that the Reader's Digest editor, Henry Hurt, who Billy Lord wrote a letter to President Carter complaining about, Quote:in the same month that DeMohrenschildt interrupted the recording of a soap opera being recorded by the widow of the first cousin of Nelson Rockefeller's first wife, Nancy Sands Tilton, first cousin of the mother of DeMohrenschildt's daughter, Alexandra,
was married to the niece of the chairman of Freeport Sulphur, Langbourne Williams, Jr.
(Jim Beamiss, described in Billy Lord's 1977 letter, was Gerry Bemiss, the best friend of GHW Bush, and his father, Sam Bemiss, was the first cousin of both Langbourne Williams, Jr. and Langbourne's brother George Dandridge Williams, the father-in-law of Reader's Digest editor, Henry Hurt!).....
Quote:https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/in...439.0.html
Dec. Dec. 6 specially decorated Bush '41 Train engine, was Billy Joe Lord on board?
Tom Scully posted 6 Dec., 20
.....Can anyone name a journalist with independence from the ownership of the owners of MSM who could convincingly
carry this water, this simple evidentiary presentation of support for Billy Joe Lord's late 1976 appeal by letter to the
incoming Carter administration? Lord was savvy enough not to address it to Ford, but the blizzard of BS flung at us this week,
coupled with the discrediting of even non-corporate journalists/ investigative reporters and seeing the locomotive
with Bush graphics and "4141" renumbering? (or did they actually find RR rolling stock operationally numbered as
such?) was an epiphany. Is Billy Joe Lord or at least his letter gonna be buried with Bush today, or does it have
even the slightest potential as a smoking gun, considering the supporting circumstatial evidence has grown to
the most compelling it has ever been?
My approach is reach for the low hanging fruit instead of the futile grand slam home run, and the fruit could not
be lower in this instance unless it is windfall on the ground.
All that Lord described that is directlymaterial to the charge of Bush and those closest to him literally muscling Lord
in 1976, is on the table. However, I am now convinced after this week the haves are so far ahead, it cannot even be
a contest, anymore.
First, the core accusation, hyper curiousity displayed by team Bush towards Lord knowledge, as the HSCA geared up
and it had become clear republicans would lose control of the presidency and of the CIA. This answers the question
of why risk rattling Billy Lord's cage if you were among the innermost Bush circle?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html...rch=hotels
And:
![[Image: BillyLordLetterDescriptionCrop.jpg]](http://jfkforum.com/images/BillyLordLetterDescriptionCrop.jpg)
....and an expanded version of the short form displayed above.: http://jfkforum.com/images/DevineLordHurt.jpg
Henry Hurt is simply supposed to be an Readers Digest journalist author with emphasis on National Security matters.
This dents that assumption quite remarkably.:
Gerry Bemiss background matched Lord's recounting of the advisor Lord claimed informed Hurt on how to pressure cooperation of Lord!
![[Image: BushLordBemissHotelExecutive.jpg]](http://jfkforum.com/images/BushLordBemissHotelExecutive.jpg)
Eight years earlier, Hurt was working in Kennebunkport and marrying into the Bemiss/Williams family.:
![[Image: HenryHurtKennebunkport.jpg]](http://jfkforum.com/images/HenryHurtKennebunkport.jpg)
Jim Beamis, full of advice for Hurt as described in the Lord letter is a slam dunk match for Bush Kennebunkport
summer neighbor and lifelong friend.:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6538...ald-bemiss
FitzGerald Bemiss
BIRTH 2 Oct 1922
DEATH 7 Feb 2011 (aged 88)
BURIAL Hollywood Cemetery
Richmond, Richmond City, Virginia, USA
Bemiss's father :
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8908...eld-bemiss
Samuel Merrifield Bemiss
BIRTH 21 Feb 1894
St. Bernard Parish, Louisiana, USA
DEATH 7 Aug 1966 (aged 72)
Quote:Fitzgerald "Gerry" Bemiss's father's parents:
Parents
Eli Lockert Bemiss
1859?1924
Cyane Dandridge Williams Bemiss https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8885...dge-bemiss
1867?1952
Her (Cyane) parents and some of her siblings:
Parents
John Langbourne Williams
1832?1915
Maria Ward Skelton Williams
1843?1929
Spouse
Eli Lockert Bemiss
1859?1924
Siblings
John Skelton Williams (first comptroller of the currency, post Jekyll Island creation of the federal reserve
1865?1926
Charlotte Randolph Williams
1868?1884
Edmund Randolph Williams
1871?1952
Langbourne Meade Williams https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8889...e-williams
1872?1931
Some children of Langbourne Meade Williams :
Langbourne Meade Williams https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8890...e-williams
1903?1994
George Dandridge Williams (the 2nd image above in this post indicates Henry Hurt in 1968 married the daughter.)
1914?1980
Quote:https://www.nytimes.com/1930/04/15/archi...rne-m.html
ELIZABETH STILLMAN ENGAGED TO MARRY; Her Troth to
Langbourne M. Williams Jr. Announced by Her Brother, C.D. Stillman.
FIANCE A VIRGINIA BANKER Bride-to-Be, a Granddaughter of Late
James Stillman, Is a Member of Colony Club.
APRIL 15, 1930.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stillman
James Jewett Stillman (June 9, 1850 ? March 15, 1918) was an American businessman who invested in land, banking, and railroads in New York, Texas, and Mexico. He was chairman of the board of directors of the National City Bank.[2] He forged alliances with the Rockefeller family, Standard Oil and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. to lay a foundation that made it, arguably, "the greatest bank in the Western Hemisphere." [3] He engaged in an expansion policy that made National City the largest bank in the United States by 1894,....
.....He married Sarah Elizabeth Rumrill (1855?1925).[8] Together they had:
Sarah Elizabeth "Elsie" Stillman (1872?1935), who married William Goodsell Rockefeller (1870?1922), the son of William Rockefeller, a senior executive of Standard Oil
.......
Isabel Goodrich Stillman (1876?1935), who married Percy Avery Rockefeller (1878?1934) in 1901. Percy was another son of William Rockefeller
......
Ernest Goodrich Stillman (1884?1949), who married Mildred Margaret Whitney (1890?1950)[12] .....
Quote:Langbourne Williams Is Dead; Retired Businessman Was 91 - The ...
https://www.nytimes.com/1994/09/14/obitu...as-91.html
Langbourne Williams Is Dead; Retired Businessman Was 91
By JOHN HOLUSHA SEPT. 14, 1994
Langbourne Meade Williams Jr., the retired chairman of a company now known as
Freeport-McMoRan Inc., died on Thursday at his country home near Rapidan, Va.
He was 91.
Mr. Williams was born in Richmond and was the descendant of a family that
had been socially prominent since the founding of the country. One ancestor was
Edmund Randolph, who was the Attorney General in George Washington's first
Cabinet and in part of his second and also served as Governor of Virginia. Another,
Bartholomew Dandridge, was Treasurer of Virginia and the brother of Martha
Washington.......
Billy Joe Lord's employer at the time he wrote the letter to incoming President Carter :
Quote:https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8...9746&hl=en
The Victoria Advocate ? Sep 1, 1978
?President and publisher of the Midland Reporter-Telegram.
Allison died of . pneumonia ? Allison owned the Plainview Daily Herald and the Alpine Avalanche. ? He was in the ROTC and was com missioned a second lieutenant in the US Air Force upon his graduation from He then served two years oversea before returning to Midland to join the reporter-telegram as a vice president?
?.He directed George H.W. Bush?s successful paign for Congress from Houston and later joined Bush?s staff in Washington. Allison was named deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee in April 1969 and served in that post until Dec. 15, 1970 when he resigned in order to organize a political consulting firm in Washington. He liquidated the firm and returned to Midland in the summer of 1974 to rejoin the Reporter-Telegram as executive vice president. He became president and publisher of the newspaper on Jan. 28, 1975, succeeding his father, who had died on Jan. 14.
The FBI claimed it could not corroborate the claims in the Lord letter or identify Jim Beamis.
I doubt Lord had much of a concept of who he was complaining about!
(Lord says he never met Jim Allison, but out of necessity works for the Midland newspaper, and the other name is Mr. Bemis(?) )
http://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docI...0&tab=page
Frederick Snare was the principle general construction contractor in Cuba from almost the sinking of the battle ship Maine, through the 1950s when
Snare & Merritt constructed the nickel mining infrastructure under US government contract. The spouse of Frederick Snare, Jr. was... (amusing that no one ever said they were related to Foster's brother, Allen....)
Quote:https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/546899133/
Publication: Bennington Banner i Location: Bennington, Vermont Issue Date: Thursday, April 11, 1985 Page: 20
EDITH D. SNARE DORSET - Edith Dulles Snare, 88, (First) cousin of the late John Foster Dulles, died Wednesday at her home in Dorset, where she had lived for the past 45 years. She had formerly resided in Englewood, N.J. Active in local affairs, Mrs. Snare was a founder of the Dorset Nursing Association, an early executive director of the Southern Vermont Artists Association of Manchester, and established Snare Associates Real Estate in the 1950s. She leaves two daughters, Dorothy Warner of Dorset and Naples, Fla....
Quote:Bennington Evening Banner Newspaper Archives, Feb 14, 1958
https://newspaperarchive.com/bennington-...-1958-p-1/
... expressing his ardor for Ellen Axson, the preacher's daughter who bacame his first wife in 1885. .... Full Weekend Planned For Ambassadors MANCHESTER Two ... minded voters that Bennington Dr. Djalal Abdoh, Iranian am- has ordered all ... Edith Dulles Snare is hostess to will happen if Bennington does not1 Pratt ...
![[Image: FreeportEdithDullesSnare1958IranianAbdol.jpg]](http://jfkforum.com/images/FreeportEdithDullesSnare1958IranianAbdol.jpg)
Consider that Eisenhower gave Nixon and the Dulles brothers broad leeway. The folder dated 2009 of the list of claims against the Castro regime is over 300 pages. Freeport Minerals direct losses may have been closer to $100 million than $50. Was LBJ intimating the Kennedy Bros. came along and built a new culture and S.O.P. inside CIA, and so quickly?
In 1961 the U.S. was nearly unrivaled in economic power and faced only one serious military adversary. All indications are Allen Dulles drank
his own kool-ade and talked his own book, predatory capitalism. The taking of Cuba could not stand, as a point of pride, precedent, the example it would set, and obviously the pain felt in the wallet. A description of the father-in-law of Edith Dulles Snare.:
Quote:Guantanamo: A Working-Class History between Empire and Revolution
By Jana Lipman
....
Quote:CUBA: Snare Jubilee - TIME Monday, Feb. 17, 1936
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/ar...25,00.html
... King George mounted England's Throne there was founded conveniently adjacent to Havana a country club which was the great enterprise of "Father Snare.
.......
It might also be helpful to attempt to learn what the details were that helpful Sen. Prescott /Bush was privy to and thought important enough to leak to
his Jupiter Island neighbor, Charles L. Bartlett, resulting in Bartlett winning a Pulitzer for his reporting on the events resulting in the resignation of Air Force Secretary, Harold Talbot....
Quote:Intermediate Report of the Committee on Government Operations
https://books.google.nl/books?id=L4XRAAAAMAAJ - Vertaal deze pagina
United States. Congress. House. Committee on Government Operations - 1955 - ‎Fragmentweergave - ‎Meer edities
Mr. Mansure testified that Mr. Talbott did not recommend any contractor. Mr. Cremer testified that he requested Mr. Talbott, who was familiar with the Nicaro situation, to pass his knowledge of Snare's unique qualifications along to Mr. Mansure.
Quote:http://books.google.com/books?sa=N&tab...lett%20pulitzerThe Bushes: Portrait of a Dynasty‎ - Page 205
by Peter Schweizer, Rochelle Schweizer, Inc ebrary - Politicians - 2005 - 574 pages
Bartlett lived in Georgetown near Pres and Dottie and had won a Pulitzer Prize
in 1956 for a series of articles on corruption at the Department of Defense.
Pres, who was on the Senate Armed Services Committee at the time, had been a source,
and the two had been friends ever since. .
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| Can't fool the First Responders! NYCFD calls for new investigation - says 'official' one wrong! |
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Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 27-07-2019, 07:12 PM - Forum: 911
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New York Area Fire Commissioners Make History, Call for New 9/11 Investigation
Ted Walter July 27, 2019
They started off by saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Ten minutes later, they were reading the text of a resolution claiming the existence of "overwhelming evidence" that "pre-planted explosives . . . caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings."
And so it was, on July 24, 2019 nearly 18 years after the horrific attacks that traumatized a nation and changed the world forever the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District, which oversees a volunteer fire department serving a hamlet of 30,000 residents just outside of Queens, New York, became the first legislative body in the country to officially support a new investigation into the events of 9/11.
The resolution, drafted and introduced by Commissioner Christopher Gioia, was unanimously approved by the five commissioners. Members of the audience including the families of fallen firefighters Thomas J. Hetzel and Robert Evans, both Franklin Square natives joined in solemn but celebratory applause after the fifth "ay" was spoken.
From left to right: Commissioner Philip F. Malloy, Jr.; Commissioner Dennis G. Lyons; District Secretary Kerry Santina; Commissioner Joseph M. Torregrossa; Attorney Kenneth Gray; Commissioner Christopher L. Gioia; Commissioner Les Saltzman
Conversing with guests after the meeting, Commissioner Dennis Lyons remarked on the enormous and lasting toll that 9/11 has taken on the Franklin Square community. "We have a memorial a piece of steel from the World Trade Center with 28 holes where the nuts and bolts used to go," Lyons explained. "Every year on the 11th, we put a rose in each hole for the 24 Nassau County firefighters and four Franklin Square residents who died on 9/11."
"We have a memorial a piece of steel from the World Trade Center with 28 holes where the nuts and bolts used to go. Every year on the 11th, we put a rose in each hole for the 24 Nassau County firefighters and four Franklin Square residents who died on 9/11."
Commissioner Dennis Lyons The impact of 9/11 on the community extends well beyond the victims and their grieving families. On September 12, 2001, the Franklin Square Fire Department was called in to assist with the massive rescue and recovery effort that was just getting underway. Countless members of the department, including Gioia and Commissioner Philip Malloy (then rank-and-file firefighters), spent weeks on the pile searching in vain for civilians and fellow responders who might still be alive. Today, Malloy is one of thousands suffering chronic health effects.
A memorial to Thomas J. Hetzel, a member of the New York Fire Department and Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department, who died on September 11, 2001.
The department also lost one of its own in Thomas J. Hetzel, affectionately referred to as "Tommy" by the commissioners. Hetzel was a full-time member of the New York Fire Department in addition to serving as a volunteer firefighter in Franklin Square. A touching memorial to Hetzel was on display during the meeting, and Hetzel's widow, parents, and sister were all in attendance.
"The Hetzel and Evans families were very appreciative of the proceedings," Gioia commented the day after the meeting. "They know it's an uphill struggle. But at least they have hope, which is something they haven't had in a long time."
![[Image: Franklin-Square-Munson-Fire-Districts-Fa...68-432.jpg]](https://www.ae911truth.org/images/articles/2019/july_2019/Franklin-Square-Munson-Fire-Districts-Family-1-768-432.jpg)
The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District commissioners greet the families of fallen firefighters Thomas J. Hetzel and Robert Evans, both Franklin Square natives.
Besides the commissioners' desire to see justice done for their fallen brothers and deceased neighbors, the driving force behind the resolution was a petition filed last year with United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York Geoffrey S. Berman by the Lawyers' Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, outlining the evidence of the World Trade Center's explosive demolition on 9/11.
The U.S. Attorney's Office notified the Lawyers' Committee in November that it would indeed comply with the federal statute requiring the U.S. Attorney to present the petition to a special grand jury. The news set off a wave of hope, among those paying attention, that the wheels of justice were finally beginning to move in the right direction.
Adding a surge to that wave of hope, the Franklin Square resolution declares the fire district's full backing of the (presumably) ongoing grand jury investigation in Lower Manhattan, while also proclaiming the district's support for "any and all efforts by other government entities to investigate and uncover the full truth surrounding the events of that horrible day."
"We're a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force."
Commissioner Christopher Gioia Speaking to those still present after the meeting, Gioia made it clear that this was the first step in a long process. Their goal now is to get every fire district in the state to go on record supporting a new 9/11 investigation.
"We're a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters," Gioia said. "You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force."
After a pause, Gioia added, "We were the first fire district to pass this resolution. We won't be the last."
The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District 9/11 ResolutionWhereas, the attacks of September 11, 2001, are inextricably and forever tied to the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department;
Whereas, on September 11, 2001, while operating at the World Trade Center in New York City, firefighter Thomas J. Hetzel, badge #290 of Hook and Ladder Company #1, Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department of New York, was killed in performance of his duties, along with 2,976 other emergency responders and civilians;
Whereas, members of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department were called upon to assist in the subsequent rescue and recovery operations and cleanup of the World Trade Center site, afflicting many of them with life-threatening illnesses as a result of breathing the deadly toxins present at the site;
Whereas, the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District recognizes the significant and compelling nature of the petition before the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York reporting un-prosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and calling upon the United States Attorney to present that petition to a Special Grand Jury pursuant to the United States Constitution and 18 U.S.C. SS 3332(A);
Whereas, the overwhelming evidence presented in said petition demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries not just airplanes and the ensuing fires caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings, killing the vast majority of the victims who perished that day;
Whereas, the victims of 9/11, their families, the people of New York City, and our nation deserve that every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, be investigated to the fullest and that every person who was responsible face justice;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District fully supports a comprehensive federal grand jury investigation and prosecution of every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, as well as any and all efforts by other government entities to investigate and uncover the full truth surrounding the events of that horrible day.
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