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Morrissette - Frazier HSC...
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Stancak Posts False Praye...
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The USA by a slim margin ...
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Excellent book on 911 & A...
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The Ongoing 'Civil War' f...
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DARNELL film Original
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Very partial list of grie...
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Morrissette - Frazier HSCA Testimony |
Posted by: Brian Doyle - 29-11-2024, 08:34 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination
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Morissette has posted Buell Frazier's HSCA interview on The Education Forum...At the 9 minute mark Frazier says in clear detail that after Calvery ran to the steps and told them the president had been shot that he stood facing a heavy-set lady and they stayed there... This is the exact moment that is seen in the Couch/Darnell film clip...This is a clear description of Frazier facing Stanton at the exact time he is facing Prayer Man and serves to end the Prayer Man issue...
What the totally incompetent Education Forum membership doesn't detect is the fact Frazier skips his trip up the extension in his recounting...He most-likely skips describing Lovelady & Shelley's trip up the extension because he knows Shelley was CIA and knows he was involved...So, seeing his omission of their trip up the extension, we are not told of Frazier turning back to the steps where he told Stanton he didn't see anything...I contend Frazier left that part out because he knew Shelley was involved and was dangerous...
This is yet another example of how The Education Forum damages JFK research...The Education Forum is just a dirty little domain of monkey's in trees defending their pathetic tribe...It is run by a real criminal POS named James Gordon who is only in it for the power...He doesn't give a damn about how the Forum affects solving the case or the correct evidence...It is run by the self-defeating principle that the opposition must be allowed to post long-disproven claims which has led to the uncredible validation of trollish Lone Nutters having equal status as the best and brightest...It is this type of unsound format that allows an ignorant horse's ass like Gordon to make it his mission to ban the guy who cracked it in favor of obvious LN trolls...The Forum is designed to spin its wheels forever and never solve the case...Gordon is going to make that format work if he has to destroy JFK research in the process...And Jim D doesn't seem to mind...So I hope Peter, Magda, and Lauren understand the imperative for DPF to maintain its original mission to counter Education Forum corruption...DPF is now literally the only hope for credible JFK research...Especially when JFK researchers who know better fly in to the flame offered by that criminal asshole Gordon in order to firm-up his agenda against good research...
There you have the proof that Prayer Man is Stanton and the EF's reaction is to let Stancak post more incoherent pseudo-analysis goobledigook that strategically omits all the evidence that disproves it...And no one says a word...
This is a good example of how idiots like Morissette and Stancak damage the efforts of skilled researchers...Witnesses like Frazier are very important and only offer a certain amount of "tries" in getting questions answered...So when you have assholes like Bart Kamp using up precious attempts on key witnesses the good evidence gets shoved aside, like the EF succeeded in doing with Prayer Man...And when it becomes clear you were correct those dirty bastards keep you banned and don't admit your evidence...These people are sick and they practice the dirty practice of spreading defamation about you that works against getting those key witnesses to answer the most important evidence...
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Excellent book on 911 & Anthrax Attacks |
Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 25-11-2024, 08:53 AM - Forum: 911
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MacQueen was the top researcher on the Anthrax Attacks' keyhole in which to peer to clearly see the total falsehood of the official cover-up story. Sadly, MacQueen died not long ago at a very young age. Here is an ebook summarizing his work, which I consider essential to understanding the largest false-flag event since World War II.
MacQueen-911-Anthrax-Attacks
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The Ongoing 'Civil War' for the USA |
Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 23-11-2024, 07:55 PM - Forum: Historical Events
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Unless you: love to hate, love lawlessness, lean toward Fascism, don't care about the Environmental Emergency, think and hope some kinda 'armageddon' is coming and desirable, and like Trumpf like less-well to uneducated people running 'things' - whether you are a US Citizen or not, join the RESISTANCE! Like it or not (me not), how goes the USA has a HUGE effect on the rest of the World!
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Very partial list of grievances against those who hated JFK |
Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 23-11-2024, 07:13 AM - Forum: JFK Assassination
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1963 – November 22nd – 2024
https://ratical.org/index.html#Friday61yrs
On another Friday, 61 years ago, A President For Peace was very publicly executed in the noon day sun. While his generals wanted to win the Cold War, he sought to end it. The escalating list of conflicts between President Kennedy and his national security state before he was assassinated includes:
- 1961-1961: negotiated peace with the Communists for a neutralist government in Laos;
- April 1961: Bay of Pigs and JFK’s response: “I want to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.”
- 1961-63: Kennedy-Hammarskjöld-UN vision, which kept the Congo together and independent;
- April 1962: conflict with big steel industrialists;
- October 1962: negotiated resolution of the Cuban Missile Crisis by pledges of no US invasion of Cuba and withdrawal of US missiles from Turkey made to Nikita Khrushchev;
- 1961-63: diplomatic opening to Third World leadership of President Sukarno;
- May 6, 1963: Presidential order NSAM #239 to pursue both a nuclear test ban and a policy of general and complete disarmament;
- June 10, 1963: American University Address;
- Summer 1963: Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty;
- Fall 1963: beginning of back-channel dialogue with Fidel Castro;
- Fall 1963: JFK’s decision to sell wheat to the Russians;
- October 11, 1963: Presidential order NSAM #263 to withdraw all U.S. personnel from Vietnam by 1965;
- November 1963: Khrushchev decides to accept JFK’s invitation for a joint U.S.-Soviet expedition to the moon.
James Douglass: “Seeking light in a depth of systemic evil that Thomas Merton called ‘the Unspeakable,’ which he described in Raids on the Unspeakable, leads one to a Gospel story. Kennedy was learning to see through the eyes of his Communist adversaries. At great personal risk, he was turning from war to peacemaking. I was astounded by the grace-filled story of a president of the United States choosing peace—at the cost of his life.”
My mother worked for 30 years altogether, but 25 years for the deputy chief of staff in the personnel office of the U.S. Army, directly under the Joint Chiefs of Staff. She was the highest-paid woman employee of the Pentagon; she was five levels above top security. I mentioned to Fletcher Prouty the other day I worked from the bottom up and he worked from the top down, and we met at the Joint Chiefs. My mother’s job was to project overall national draft call figures five years in advance. She had to project an annual national Selective Service call that was right within a hundred people either way five years ahead. She knew from those projections and from the information she got that they were withdrawing from Vietnam.
If you want to get hold of the papers that prove Prouty’s point, I just got this today at the Government Printing Office—Foreign Relations in the United States, 1961-1963. The State Department papers are released in Volume 4 of the Vietnam series. This is August to December, 1963, and the security memoranda are in there that talk about Kennedy’s plan. It’s been backed up by Arthur Schlesinger and more recently—yesterday, I believe, or the day before—in the New York Times by Roger Hilsman.
He was pulling out. My mother knew that because she had to project those kind of figures. I asked her after she retired, “When did they tell you they would escalate in Vietnam?” because she had to be among the first to know. She said, “Late November of ’63.” I said, “The last week in November?” She said, “Yes, the Monday following the assassination.” I said, “Was this a few more advisers, a change in policy?” She said, “I couldn’t believe the figures. I took them back to the Joint Chiefs in what must have been the first protest by the civilian community to the war in Vietnam and said, ‘These can’t be right,’ and they said, ‘You’ll use them.’” They told her November 25, 1963 that the war in Vietnam would last for 10 years and that 57,000 Americans would die and to figure that in.
—John Judge on JFK film panel, American University, January 22, 1992
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The USA by a slim margin votes for Fascism, Rascism, Mysogeny, Hate. |
Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 21-11-2024, 08:11 PM - Forum: Historical Events
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Sorry this post is a bit late, but the Forum was down during the election. I am ABSOLUTELY NO FAN of how the Democrats [really both parties] support US Hegemony, a system of a few rich increasingly stealing from the growing poor, support for an indefensible Zionist Israel's genocidal war on the Palestinians and many other things. That said, Trumpf [family name when they came from Germany] and his Make America Racist/Fascist/Misogynist Again party filled me with existential disgust. A fact much on display during election: that half of the USA's adult population has only a sixth grade (or less) level of English reading/writing/understanding ability showed! It also allowed so many to be fooled by well-known Propaganda techniques to believe absolute fiction, lies, and to vote AGAINST their own interests! That many in the days AFTER the election were JUST beginning to understand that i.e., tariffs would do nothing but increase their costs, and the sad belief of some ethnic minorities that Trump wasn't going to deport and disrespect them showed an almost unbelievable level of naivete, if not stupidity. My entire life I voted for Left Progressive third party candidates, but simply could not this time. I held my nose and voted against Trumpfian Fascism.....little good that did. It was close - but such obscene forces should not even get single-digits in a sane polity. While I'll concede that the USA needs radical change, it needs it in the opposite direction and opposite orientation than what Trumpf and those behind Trumpf are intent on. OK, USA, you fucked-up big-time, and we'll be lucky if we get one last chance. I for one am in the resistance - primarily against Trumpism, but also against Business-As-Usual politics. At least the hidden lies have been laid bare if one cares/dares to see. Racism, Sexism, Regressive Religiosity, Rich over Poor, Men over Women, White over all others, those who feel 'entitled' over the others. Fascism was always lurking in the background in the USA, but now it is in control - or should I say out of control? Shame on the citizenry. You voted for your own punishment, but sadly for that of almost all others in the USA - and beyond. The ONLY ones who will benefit are the Ultra-rich, the seen and unseen Oligarchy (in US and Worldwide), the gun and arms makers. We're all going to "go through some 'things'"......and I fear VERY BAD ONES. While primarily those in the 'ol USA will shortly suffer on a daily basis; this is a HUGE and NEGATIVE event in history that will effect the entire World adversely.
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DPForum Back! |
Posted by: Peter Lemkin - 21-11-2024, 03:02 PM - Forum: Forum Technical Issues
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For quite some time, due to technical problems, this Forum was not available. We, however, are back! It will take a little housecleaning to be fully operational. Now is the time for old users and new ones to come onboard!
The World certainly needs it!
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DARNELL film Original |
Posted by: Richard Gilbride - 15-09-2024, 03:11 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination
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NBC Archives has apparently given the original footage taken by WBAP's Jimmy Darnell to the Sixth Floor Museum. This film includes footage of the TSBD front landing and the infamous PrayerMan figure, and is inherently the source for the best-quality image we will ever be able to obtain.
This is a big step forward. I worked with Brian Doyle for a couple of winters 6-7 years ago, appraising NBC's archivists (both in NY and LA) of the critical need to make the original available, even for just a private digital scan. And I beseeched RFK Jr. and several other luminaries to use their pull and help make this happen. This was a righteous effort and it is very satisfying to see it come to pass, however the details transpired.
The PrayerMan excerpt from the original has already been posted by David von Pein on Page 3 of the Education Forum thread news about the Darnell film at https://educationforum.iphost/topic/3079...-film/page 3/#comments
Already the PM image is at least as clear as Chris Davidson's best enhancement, which was made with high-key filters from a 1st- or 2nd-generation copy. And when the photo-wizards in the research community set their skills onto this new PM image, the identifying features will only become more and more apparent.
It is a stout woman in a ring-necked dress. She is a full head shorter than Wesley Frazier. Her name is Sarah Stanton.
This constitutes a complete vindication for Brian Doyle, who has been strenuously contending this very identity for the past decade. Opposing the mob - at great personal cost - who were arguing that PM was Oswald. Painstakingly vanquishing every last Sophistic argument that disingenuously attempted to fit Oswald inside that blurry image. Enduring endless insults and disrespect, and ostracization, in his effort to correctly discern the truth and preserve academic integrity.
The PM Sophists were so easily blinded - losing sight of objective, empirical science - to readily embrace any shaky argument that supported their zealous belief. They were not interested in subjecting their cherished idea to the rigors of cross-examination. They did not have ears to listen. And they did not bother to think through Doyle's arguments for themselves, out of fear of being ridiculed by their Murphyite peers. And as a result they ended up Shit Creek without a paddle.
They have no recourse other than to admit they were wrong. A simple apology, a simple thank you, goes a long way toward the healing that is needed in this community after the long, long PM struggle.
In the final analysis, we're looking for answers. And this particular question is not debatable. Who was PrayerMan? It was Sarah Stanton.
Thank you, Mr. Doyle.
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Greenwald/Mate Sell Out Kennedy |
Posted by: Brian Doyle - 27-08-2024, 04:00 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination
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In the last two days both Glen Greenwald and Aaron Mate have made special asides on their programs emphasizing that JFK was no different than the rest of the Cold War reactionaries of his time and there was no special reason for his Assassination...Greenwald said JFK was behind the CIA coups in Cuba, Brazil, and Viet Nam and was not any different than the right-wingers behind the worst CIA activities during his administration...Mate said he saw no special reason behind Kennedy's assassination and the only outstanding thing about Kennedy was his sexual appetite...Both Mate and Greenwald cited Chomsky as their source with Mate adding Sy Hersch...
It is incredible that this ethnic source would deny Kennedy his martyrdom for the same progressive politics they espouse...They need to read DiEugenio and Douglass...
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The Current State Of Internet Assassination Discussion |
Posted by: Brian Doyle - 23-08-2024, 07:27 PM - Forum: JFK Assassination
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The current state of JFK Assassination discussion has The Education Forum dominating as the main discussion website...Greg Parker retired his ROKC troll farm from active status to the benefit of credible research and Duncan MacRae is a mentally ill unserious website host whose purpose is undermining serious research...The only other board is this one which appears to have gone read-only...
The Deep Politics board used to be openly opposed to the unfair moderation of the Education Forum...It has since retreated from that stance along with removing its site rules...This situation has been accompanied by a conspicuous cessation of activity on the board...The board has become a discussion board with no discussion...
I'm limited to cell phone so I'll keep it to the cellphone version...Jim DiEugenio has dropped DPF and posts on The Education Forum now...DiEugenio is an open praiser and supporter of Education Forum moderator James Gordon who banned me for posting the correct evidence that Prayer Man was Sarah Stanton....My correct evidence directly served the DPF purpose and site rules and helped discredit a notorious troll group that was corrupting the JFK internet...Jim DiEugenio ignored this and praised Gordon for banning me after he gave credit to that troll group and their bogus Prayer Man claim...
My Prayer Man research led to some serious other discoveries like Sarah Stanton hearing Oswald say he was going in to the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination...I also figured out the scenario in the Lobby to the point of solving the conspiracy...As well as figuring out the Lunch Room Encounter (that DiEugenio denied, agreeing with the trolls)...These are some of the most important discoveries in 60 years of research that have been totally ignored because of DiEugenio's traitorous censoring alliance with Gordon...Jim's teaming up with Gordon to destroy important evidence is so bad that it would have constituted a breach of DPF rules under the original rules...
I guess the point of this post is that DPF is in a very good position to practice its original purpose in order to overcome Education Forum malpractice and malfeasance in order to advance the conspiracy evidence...Right now the EF has allowed ROKC and European trolls and Lone Nutters to shift the balance and stymie the board into its present dysfunction...The present dormant state of this website only aids that self-defeating condition...It is time to get discussion going on this board again for the sake of JFK research...Time to break up the clique...The research community is abandoning its credibilty and a solving of the conspiracy all so it can childishly avoid admitting it was wrong on Prayer Man...
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