This presentation accomplishes two things: 1) it outlines the west freight elevator escape as the correct solution to the Depository enigma, supported by a dozen pieces of evidence  2) it conclusively debunks any notion that James Hosty's extraneous notes- i.e. "went outside to watch P. Parade"-  are supportive of the PrayerMan question, which is exposed as a deception.

This essay was intended to be delivered at the 2023 JFK Lancer Conference, of which I informed Debra Conway back in May, but for some unknown reason was not invited. And so it is written in a style intended for a live audience.

Part 1 is essentially a rehash of my elevator escape theory, which has been familiar to researchers since I first presented it in 2009. It is worth refreshing yourself about, as there are a couple of significant additions to the evidence I have never made public before.

Part 2 is a natural outgrowth of why Part 1 is not more widely accepted. The answer to that is because of my stance on the lunchroom hoax and PrayerMan, which has led to my ostracization from the research community. The content of Part 2 arises out of discussions I had with Brian Doyle right here on the pages of this Deep Politics forum this past spring and summer. He was able to thread the needle and find the correct interpretation of the interrogators' notes & reports, which placed, as Fritz testified, the suspect Oswald in the 2nd-floor lunchroom at the time of the assassination. The content of Part 2 is essentially a synopsis of his insights, with my own addition of Kelley's report and Oswald's encounter with reporters in the DPD hallway.

Chris Davidson has once again ended the Prayer Man issue by enhancing one of the Darnell frames and bringing out a clearly-seen woman's "scoop" neckline on Prayer Man's garment...This is irrefutable proof that Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton...That scoop neckline and its straight line divide between Prayer Man's skin on her breast and dress was also discovered in the main Darnell Prayer Man image by Morissette...

The Prayer Man theory is dead...However that doesn't stop David Josephs and Jim DiEugenio from suggesting Prayer Man is Oswald in the current Education Forum Prayer Man thread where all those who present the conclusive evidence that Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton are censored and banned...

I am owed an apology by this website because I did 7 hard years banned by Lauren Johnson for showing that Davidson's original enhancement of Wiegman showed Prayer Man was Sarah Stanton...David Josephs commented "What, are you joking?" and Lauren gave me a 3 month suspension "for not listening to the experts"...When Lauren and Peter banned me they directly violated the Deep Politics Forum's site rules and acted in direct opposition to them as moderators...Lauren privately admitted to me that I had proven Prayer Man wasn't Oswald but said he would ban me if I kept posting on the subject...That was a direct violation of the Deep Politics site rules that Lauren violated as moderator...It was Lauren's trusted duty to go out and admit on the board that I was correct, as the site rules made clear...Now someone has deleted all those member-protecting site rules...The rules said DPF was a sanctuary for correct assassination evidence and if a member could make the case this was the place for him...The rules also said all moderator actions had to be done openly and all members had to receive equal respect as moderators...Everything Lauren and Peter did was categorically in direct violation of the site's stated rules and purpose...Neither Magda or the members intervened...James Gordon then used DPF's banning of me as justification for my banning on the Education Forum for trying to show the same evidence - again, in direct violation of the publicly-stated reasons for the website's formation to counter Edcuation Forum corruption...It is obvious that the real means by which the JFK internet works is a subjective friend's network, or research clique, by which the real decisions are made and the rules are just a haughty formality...The JFK internet is a Jim DiEugenio suck-up society and not a credibly Peer Reviewed place...In the end this website managed to commit the same violations the Education Forum, that it was formed in opposition to, did...And do so against a skilled member who discovered very important new evidence...

Here is the final proof on Prayer Man while Jim DiEugenio is on the Education Forum supporting Kamp's Cinque-like work and destruction of Conspiracy research credibility:



https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/in....2672.html

The PrayerMan figure unequivocably is situated at the front of the Depository landing, and thereby measures a full head shorter than the 6-foot one-quarter inch Wesley Frazier, who is standing at the center of the Darnell frame. No legitimate height determination has ever matched up the 5-foot 9 Lee Harvey Oswald. And the cultlike advocates offer no legitimate reason as to why no one ever mentioned seeing Oswald out there during the motorcade. Frazier, in fact, denied seeing him, and said he spoke to secretary Sarah Stanton moments after this footage was taken.

Having failed, by film forensics, to certify this blurry figure was Oswald, the cult has resorted to insinuating that James Hosty's belatedly-discovered notes are proof that Oswald "went outside to watch P. Parade." Cherry-picking a piece of evidence, out of context, imbuing it with a meaning it does not ordinarily have-  which is their customary method of deception.

Secret Service Inspector Thomas Kelley explicitly asked him the next morning, in the presence of 7 other law enforcement officers, whether he had watched the parade and he said he had not (Warren Report, p. 627). Had Oswald actually been on the landing, during the presidential parade, why on earth didn't he declare that to the press in the hallway when they asked him if he shot the President?

Hosty's extraneous notes actually refer to Oswald being on the landing 3 or 4 minutes after the assassination. This correlates with the notes of Captain Fritz and the solo report of James Bookhout, who each state that Oswald was out on the landing with Bill Shelley. The Fritz notes, Bookhout report, and the Hosty notes are in fact each structured as the same specific 3-part drama.

In Act 1 Oswald is on the 2nd floor getting a Coke; Act 2 he goes to the 1st floor; in Act 3 he goes out to the landing. In Act 1 Fritz and Bookhout mentioned the encounter with the police officer, which Hosty omitted. In Act 3 they mentioned the encounter with Shelley, which Hosty again omitted.

Oswald, alone with these men at his first interrogation, had actually told them that during the shooting he was on the 2nd floor!! This is what Fritz initially stated in his testimony (IV p. 231), until he was directed by attorney Ball to return to the narrative that had been scripted into his police report (Warren Report, p. 600). Oswald was asked the most obvious of questions-  his whereabouts during the assassination-  yet his interrogators did not relinquish their notes about this to the Warren Commission. The remnants that turned up years later all sync up again with the purchase of a Coca-Cola, and proceed with their 3-part drama.

That drama was initiated-  again, according to Fritz's testimony-  by the encounter with Officer Baker in the 2nd-floor lunchroom, where Oswald said "he was eating his lunch" (IV p. 213). Which correlates with what Jack Dougherty, Carolyn Arnold, James Hosty, Sarah Stanton and Wesley Frazier all told their respective latter-day interviewers. 

We have, all told, no epistemological justification for extracting Hosty's belated notes from the context of the threefold interrogator data set, and fantasizing that those notes alone provide information about Oswald's whereabouts. Not when Fritz's testimony is telling us Oswald was on the 2nd floor at the time of the shooting. Not when Kelley's Secret Service report says he denied watching the parade. To offer these notes as evidence he was on the landing, at the time in question, is first-order mullarkey. Just a clever Sophist lie.

These hypotheses will be ridiculed as mentally defective in another 20 years. Max Planck, the discoverer of the quantum, remarked that progress in physics is often not possible until the previous generation dies off. And it will be the same for future JFK scholars, who will abandon the wishful thinking of the present age. The proponents of PrayerMan and the lunchroom hoax-  along with their reputable enablers-  will be rightly regarded as sophomoric oafs, inherently incapable of discerning fact from fiction. Progress will eventually prevail, when all these Sophists die their physical deaths. Truth is always invincible, since it rests upon a foundation of God-given reason and Sober Judgment.

A decade ago this forum was openly declared to be a forum created in opposition to the Education Forum and its uncredible moderation...Unfortunately, since Magda appointed a certain moderator that has changed and not changed for the better...

Bart Kamp has recently come out with a new book on Prayer Man and he is taking full advantage of the bias towards his Prayer Man claim that exists on the JFK internet...That bias has received strong support from this website, not from direct endorsement, but from a lack of opposition to what is obviously bogus research...Predictably, the Education Forum has allowed itself to be taken over by Kamp's proxies and the book is now receiving strong adulation and positive reviews...Kamp has two moderators in his corner in the form of Sandy Larsen and James Gordon...There is no meaningful opposition or effective critique of Kamp's disinformation work...

The lack of this website to do what it was formed for is directly resulting in Kamp's false work gaining undue credit and being taken seriously...Let's not be dishonest about the real cause for this...The moderators of this website want to remain in favor with people like Jim DiEugenio and David Josephs, who have directly violated the previous rules of this forum as they were posted a decade ago...Jim and David are taking advantage of what this site clearly formed in opposition to and are exploiting and supporting the Education Forum's corrupted moderation in order to support the Prayer Man people...Jim and David are in full support of the Education Forum violations this website was formed in opposition to and are being allowed to waltz over here with full acceptance and not be held accountable...The truth is Greg Parker and Bart Kamp have made serious progress lately for their bogus claims and position in the research community at least partly because of a lack of resistance from this website, and done so because those in authority are preferring their personal relationships to certain researchers over good research...

My research has proven beyond any doubt that Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton...It is being ignored on the Education Forum by that which this website was formed in opposition to...Instead of being seen as a hero that this website was designed to produce, and supported as an example of this website's purpose, I am being given 1 star ratings on all my posts in violation of the previous DPF rule that no member would suffer any abuse from any moderator...That rule was removed from the DPF rules where member's rights were greatly reduced by that anonymous deletion of the previous rules...There has been no site recognition of my highly important evidence discoveries, which is in direct violation of this site's previous rules and publicly-stated purpose...The credibility and integrity of JFK Assassination Conspiracy research is being threatened with the silent assistance of this forum...The current resurgance and gains of the Prayer Man group via the Education Forum is directly due to this website failing to act upon its previous publicly-stated purpose... 

We live in an age where Davidson can show Sarah Stanton's clearly-seen face on Prayer Man yet that is somehow not good enough for people who call themselves serious researchers and moderators...

Secret Service Inspector Thomas J. Kelley, in his synopsis of the Saturday morning interrogation of Oswald (attended by 7 other law enforcement personnel), reported that "I asked him if he viewed the parade and he said he had not." (Warren Report, p. 627)

Had Oswald actually been out on the TSBD landing, during the presidential parade, why on earth wouldn't he have declared that to the press in the hallway when they asked him if he shot the President?

Wesley Frazier, who was out on the landing during the presidential parade, firmly denied in recent years that Oswald was ever out there then.

James Hosty's extraneous notes, claiming that Oswald "went outside to watch P. Parade", are being taken out of context by the PrayerMan cult. What Hosty quite apparently was referring to was what Captain Fritz had written down-  "out with Bill Shelley in front"-  and James Bookhout had reported- "He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill SHELLEY".

Oswald had told his interrogators he had gone to the 2nd floor to get a Coke, an officer came in, he went to the 1st floor to have lunch, then went outside and stood around with Bill Shelley.

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.ne...ographs-iv

Secret Service agent Paul Landis has come out with a startling revelation that he found the Magic Bullet on the top of the leather seat in the limousine:


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/...m_brand=vf

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.ne...graphs-iii

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.ne...ographs-ii

Just to show what an embarrassing incestuous schmoozefest of favoritism and cronyism the JFK research world is, like Alan Dale, Morley totally avoided the main subject of Kamp's book as seen in the title "Prayer Man"...This is how stupid and dishonest the clique is and how low it tries to force the research world where we would accept a research community all marching totally naked in their own research parade by not mentioning the main focus of the book in their reviews...I mean how intellectually dishonest is it to have Kamp's main claim to fame, and focus of the book as represented in the title "Prayer Man", not mentioned in both main reviews?...Clearly both Morley and Dale are telling the public they don't believe in the bogus Prayer Man claim and have been convinced of such by a certain researcher that they are not honest enough to name...However that doesn't keep them from reinforcing their main research concern, in the form of the clique, by doing sweetheart gushing reviews of one of the biggest creeps and bogus evidence promoters in the research community while dishonestly ignoring the main point...

This is a research community that is corrupt and dishonest enough to skip the issue that is the main title of the book and main focus of the author, dishonestly avoid mentioning it, and still come up all gushing roses and praise for what is basically one of the biggest fools in research history who led the research world down a time-wasting false path for over a decade...Look at both those hustlers Morley and Dale tip toe around this glaring issue while pretending they could still get away with a positive review despite that giant glaring hole...You know - the clique and its corruption say it is OK to ignore the ALL CAPS "Prayer Man" title of the book, and Kamp's notorious history involving it, and still consider yourself as offering a sincere review...Not a single f*cking word about Prayer Man in either review while these scoundrels insist on enforcing your banning while standing there embarrassingly and stupidly stark f*cking naked...That's how dishonest the JFK research community is...Your expensive dinner jacket is never good enough while these naked clowns are ushered right in by the bouncers at the door...

Both Dale and Morley both failed to credit Kamp with proving Prayer Man was Oswald...In fact, even though it is the title of the god-damned book, both Dale and Morley failed to even mention it at all - which has to be one of the most epic cases of intellectual dishonesty ever committed in academic history...This present JFK research community is not about good evidence or argument...It's about a gang of insiders who have hijacked the JFK internet for whom epic acts of dishonestly like this have no limit or sense of shame...