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ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - Charles Drago - 28-02-2013
David Josephs Wrote:Greg Burnham Wrote:Check out the brief glimpse of an Oswald (Lovelady) look-a-like at frame 13 [right in the center] -- spliced.
Is this who you were referring to Greg?
I don't think so.
I believe that Greg is referring to the face visible at the 13-second mark -- an LHO look-alike if ever there were one. The image is visible for barely a full second, and I don't know how to isolate the particular section of the video for reproduction here.
But it is, by far, the most interesting part of what we're looking at.
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - David Josephs - 28-02-2013
and I included the same angle of view of his face from just before he is killed by Ruby...
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - David Josephs - 01-03-2013
So I pulled only the frames with this person in them... and created a gif...
DJ
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - Jan Klimkowski - 01-03-2013
Charles Drago Wrote:Is this a dangle directed at Fetzer/Cinque Studios?
Yes.
And you risk being culpable and complicit.
This herring is as red as red can be.....
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - David Josephs - 01-03-2013
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Is this a dangle directed at Fetzer/Cinque Studios?
Yes.
And you risk being culpable and complicit.
This herring is as red as red can be.....
Hang on a second...
Oswald WAS in DP after the assassination... regardless of how he left which was more likely what Craig saw than Bledsoe
Ruby was in DP after the assassination (Cancellare as he walks up to the Overpass and one where he is in front of the TSBD - or maybe his brother)
Do we really feel it impossible that none of the films/photos would capture him/them?
The only way Oswald is not in front of the TSBD is if he left thru the rear... which I believe we have shown in the past that he did not...
Either out to the bus... which I also believe we've disproven, or into the Rambler.
Interesting how that comment about Mrs Paine and the Rambler does not make it into the notes.... anyone's notes...
only Craig's.
I'm sorry but I fail to understand how them being in DP in these films is a red herring... and noone is saying it's them... we're just trying to do a reasonable comparison.
DJ
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - LR Trotter - 01-03-2013
Certainly worthy of consideration, by all means. But, my first reaction was that the LHO image appears a few years younger and a few inches shorter than LHO. The JLR image appears heavier around the waist than other pictures of JLR from that time frame. JMO.
This is in reference to Post # 1, and the persons id'd in the video as Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Leon Ruby.
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - Gordon Gray - 01-03-2013
One thing this clip makes clear to me is how easy it would be to mistake someone of a similar build and with similar clothing for Oswald. If I had been a withness to the Tippit shooting and saw this figure runing away, or had I seen this fellow running down the hill and getting into the Rambler, I might say he was the same guy as the one arrested in the Theatre. This coukd very easily be the Oswald impersonator.
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - Charles Drago - 01-03-2013
Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Is this a dangle directed at Fetzer/Cinque Studios?
Yes.
And you risk being culpable and complicit.
This herring is as red as red can be.....
Just maybe my main point in bringing this up -- after it had been introduced into the blood stream at the EF Swamp -- was to expose the dangling herring.
You know ... preemption and what not.
I'm willing to accept that my method may be ill-considered.
But "culpable and complicit"?
Au contraire.
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - Magda Hassan - 01-03-2013
Peter Lemkin Wrote:At first look....could be....but can't be more sure without some photo enhancement of stills. That appears to be just some 5-10 minutes after the shooting....perhaps. Why was this never noted before?
Well, yes, indeed. Why now? Where is this from?
ON FILM: Ruby and Oswald at TSBD? - Charles Drago - 01-03-2013
David Josephs Wrote:Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Is this a dangle directed at Fetzer/Cinque Studios?
Yes.
And you risk being culpable and complicit.
This herring is as red as red can be.....
I'm sorry but I fail to understand how them being in DP in these films is a red herring... and noone is saying it's them... we're just trying to do a reasonable comparison.
DJ
If I may: Jan is suggesting that this footage is the red herring -- a subtle but all-important distinction.
I brought this djinn to DPF because it previously had been let out of the bottle and could not be allowed to wreak havoc without voices of reason bringing forward the likelihood that it is a provocation.
I wrote "likelihood," not "certainty."
Reasonable analysis of the footage presented in advance of a Fetzerian rush to judgment is, in my opinion, the best way to expose the operation -- if that's what it is.
And right now, I'm of the just-shy-of-firm opinion that it is.
By all means let's continue to evaluate -- with the utmost of caution.
And, of course, out in the open.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.