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Coup Underway in Turkey - Drew Phipps - 18-08-2016
There was a story the other day on NPR/BBC that a Turkish journalist resigned rather than continuing to work under the new Erdogan government, after blowing the whistle on the Turkish government's providing arms to Syrian rebels.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37081804
There's also this story:
Turkey To Release 38,000 Prisoners Early To Make Room For Coup Conspirators
http://www.npr.org/2016/08/17/490386973/turkey-to-release-38-000-prisoners-early-to-make-room-for-coup-conspirators
Which will be a lot of floor space for 10 guys, even if they are Americans.
Maybe, just maybe, Turkish journalists aren't quite as free to speak the truth as one would hope.
Coup Underway in Turkey - David Guyatt - 19-08-2016
Turkish journalists haven't been able to speak freely for a long time.
What is more significant for me, are recent comments in Turkey about how NATO is treating them badly and thus their proposal for Turkey and Russia to consider closer military ties in the future. This apparently is sending the Pentagon into a mad frenzy.
Coup Underway in Turkey - Paul Rigby - 19-08-2016
Drew Phipps Wrote:There was a story the other day on NPR/BBC that a Turkish journalist resigned rather than continuing to work under the new Erdogan government, after blowing the whistle on the Turkish government's providing arms to Syrian rebels.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37081804
There's also this story:
Turkey To Release 38,000 Prisoners Early To Make Room For Coup Conspirators
http://www.npr.org/2016/08/17/490386973/turkey-to-release-38-000-prisoners-early-to-make-room-for-coup-conspirators
Which will be a lot of floor space for 10 guys, even if they are Americans.
Maybe, just maybe, Turkish journalists aren't quite as free to speak the truth as one would hope.
The "human rights" wing of the American deep state is assuredly about to discover all kinds of appalling infractions of "democratic norms," from a failure to fill the coffers of the Clinton Foundation to torturing the wrong people. As for a "free press," it really is time America acquired one.
Coup Underway in Turkey - Drew Phipps - 19-08-2016
And yet here we are (the members of this forum), freely engaging in debate, making critical comments, advocating unconventional beliefs, for the benefit of both members, and other inquiring minds, without a fear of being jailed or shot dead for our efforts. I bet if the founders of this forum were crass enough to sell advertising, we could eventually have a board of directors, get paid for contributing, and eventually sell out to some political party that needed a tame media outlet.
Hmm. Even if we stay free (ideologically and economically), I wonder if those little press passes that you stick in your hat are a possibility?
Coup Underway in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 19-08-2016
Drew Phipps Wrote:And yet here we are (the members of this forum), freely engaging in debate, making critical comments, advocating unconventional beliefs, for the benefit of both members, and other inquiring minds, without a fear of being jailed or shot dead for our efforts.
I do Drew. You don't see the emails from the lawyers for the arms dealers and other assorted bottom feeders. And not just those. I don't put some stuff up here because of personal repercussions.
Coup Underway in Turkey - David Guyatt - 19-08-2016
Drew Phipps Wrote:And yet here we are (the members of this forum), freely engaging in debate, making critical comments, advocating unconventional beliefs, for the benefit of both members, and other inquiring minds, without a fear of being jailed or shot dead for our efforts. I bet if the founders of this forum were crass enough to sell advertising, we could eventually have a board of directors, get paid for contributing, and eventually sell out to some political party that needed a tame media outlet.
Hmm. Even if we stay free (ideologically and economically), I wonder if those little press passes that you stick in your hat are a possibility?
No forum or other critical entity can hope to compete with the mass circulation media, where control of the public mind rests and the narrative is perennially set. It matters very little what we say here at DPF because our reach is very limited.
I used to have one of those little press passes (a "press card" in the UK) but that of itself is meaningless. Try earning a living writing articles that are revelatory where it truly hurts, and you'll quickly learn how to walk in the wilderness and live on cans of soup and baked beans.
Big, meaningful and important stories get spiked all the time.
Which, of course, places the "ideological and economic freedom" in the realm of empty myths.
Coup Underway in Turkey - Paul Rigby - 19-08-2016
Ticking Time Bomb: Media Hypes Nuclear Threat in Turkey to Justify Action
Published on Aug 17, 2016
In this episode of Newsbud's Spotlight with Sibel & Spiro, we examine the motives of the recent hype and fear mongering by the media and think tanks concerning the US nuclear weapons currently stored at NATO's Incirlik Air Base in Turkey. It appears the Nukes are being used as a pretext for justification for US action in Turkey, reminiscent of the media's false reporting of the WMD's in Iraq and other fabricated stories to justify wars.
[video=youtube_share;ysUp13WjMiI]http://youtu.be/ysUp13WjMiI[/video]
Show Notes
http://bit.ly/2befMEV
Coup Underway in Turkey - Drew Phipps - 19-08-2016
Turns out there was a very badly rated Turkish film in 2015 called "Code Name KZ" which eerily reflect the events that unfolded a year later. Life imitating art? Or were the real planners of the "coup attempt" just fans of the flick? IMDB says its the worst film of all time; however, they apparently didn't watch "Amerigeddon" starring Alex Jones (which gets my vote).
I wonder why, if the "attempted coup" was supposed to be casis belli for a US pre-emptive action to repossess its nuclear warheads, that the US government would wait a month or more to crank up the "mighty wulitzer"? We didn't want it to interfere with the 2016 summer Olympics? (btw Turkey has 2 silver medals and 2 bronze medals) We were too fascinated by the slow-motion train wreck that is the Republican Party and forgot? I don't know about you guys, but for me to find stories about Turkey, I have to listen to the BBC News Hour, or come here and look for them, not like in 2002-2003 when I could sit in my living room and get bombarded by the WMD bull that came with the Iraq invasion.
It may very well be that the Turkish people, having swallowed the "US backed Gulenist coup" story hook, line, and sinker, are waiting fearfully for the next shoe to drop. I can assure them, as of yesterday, the American mainstream media are not hyping a "pre-invade-Turkey" hysteria. I can make no promises about the future.
Coup Underway in Turkey - Drew Phipps - 19-08-2016
Magda Hassan Wrote:Drew Phipps Wrote:And yet here we are (the members of this forum), freely engaging in debate, making critical comments, advocating unconventional beliefs, for the benefit of both members, and other inquiring minds, without a fear of being jailed or shot dead for our efforts.
I do Drew. You don't see the emails from the lawyers for the arms dealers and other assorted bottom feeders. And not just those. I don't put some stuff up here because of personal repercussions.
I thank you, Magda, for taking the heat.
Coup Underway in Turkey - David Guyatt - 20-08-2016
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